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Philbin confidence in short-yardage runs shaken

After early success with Jorvorskie Lane hulking into the line and picking up a couple of short-yardage first downs and even a TD, the Dolphins are officially struggling on short yardage runs of late.

They blew an opportunity to convert a third-and-1 Sunday. They've blown a couple of similar opportunities the previous two weeks.

So where is coach Joe Philbin's confidence when the team dials up a short-yardage run now?

"It's not very good," Philbin said Monday. "It's not very good. You look at the film, the film is not good to watch."

This says it all: After the Dolphins failed on a third-and-one run early Sunday, they faced three other third-and-one situations during the game. They passed on all of three.

The problem is there's a multitude of issues for the failures.

"It's a variety of things," Philbin said. "Sometimes penetration, sometimes read of the back, it's a combination thereof. Usually the things that affect runs are quick penetration and decisiveness running the ball or poor course or poor read. It's all those things. You throw on our tape for third-and-1 and you'll probably see all of that."

Philbin did not name names. But here's the issue on a personal level.

Daniel Thomas, at 228 pounds, is more a thoroughbred than a plowhorse. He's not really a move-the-pile on short yardage kind of guy -- at least he hasn't proven he is.

Reggie Bush isn't that guy either, although at 200 pounds, one wouldn't expect him to be.

Guard Richie Incognito and John Jerry along with center Mike Pouncey are fine when all is fair. But on third-and-one, the defense is expecting a run to attack the A-gap. The defense is stacked and ready. All is not fair. And when that has been the case, the Miami interior line hasn't consistently moved anyone backwards.

Well, how about wide runs?

That also hasn't been a solution because, well, Jonathan Martin needs to get a bit stronger and Jake Long doesn't seem as agile as he used to be. Also, the blocking out of Miami's tight ends has not been consistently good on such plays.

Lane, meanwhile, failed on a couple of attempts after showing promise early. Coaches have gone away from giving him the ball since those failures. The team did give him another opportunity on the first drive Sunday.

He failed.

 

 

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..Thanks for the B-Day shouts fellas..38 today. Wow thhe time passes fast.

Irelands genius has us on course to our 4th consecutive losing season. Will Ross ever get a clue?

Bring back Lusaka Polite! I think the bigger question is why - after being down by 3 & 4 TDs for most of the game - did it take us until the 12 minute mark to throw the ball PAST the 1st down marker?!? I sure hope they're no doing the "coddle the qb" routine they did with Henne. Let the boy play!

Heck, bring back Chad Henne. Tannehill blowz!

I don't think anyone with half a brain seriously thinks the Dolphins are as bad as they played yesterday. They had a crap day all around. It happens. They are better than that...they held Houston to 3 points for nearly a half for heaven's sake.

But they do need a couple more drafts. The personnel just isn't there yet.

If you're telling me that we don't have a Larry Zonza I think that EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT! However, we NEED QUICK AN OFENSIVE LINE IMPROVEMENT & I FEEL THAT THE BODIES ARE THERE, JUST NOT YET WORKING IN TUNE! But I'm sure that Joe Philbin will COREECT THAT TOO!... Just saying...

...I'm not sure there are many quarterbacks in this league that would have much success with the corps of guys we have at the reciever position. A P. Manning, a Brady.. But even the second tier guys would look ordinary IMO..Add to the mix that our run game has been digressing. It would make it difficult for any rookie quarterback to be consistant. Also. Tannehill had a bad game yesterday. He has been pretty good up to yesterday. I think what he has done has been remarkable considering the weapons he has been given. If you want to place the blame on Tannehill yesterday, by all means go ahead. I think it is unfair. But he certainly played his worst game of the year..Time to see if he rebounds. He deserves this.

The same idiots that loved Henne love Tannehill.

MJ


Yeah they're called Dolphin fans.

Posted by: We Have RB's | November 12, 2012 at 01:29 PM


Actually they're called delusional kool-aid drinkers.


Posted by: MJ

yeah keep drinking that mark sancheese koolaid doucebag!!!!

Armondo - normally agree with your assessment but in this one, you dedicate 2 paragraphs as to how the O Line is getting pushed off the ball and giving up penetration on 'easy to predict' A-Gap play calling - then in the next breath you said Lane, who you said is NOT a finesse runner, FAILED in his 3rd down attempt. Can't have it both ways... I for one, agreed with your former assessment and thought the later was harsh on the big guy. They only need to give him a sliver and they're not doing that. Jake Long will never be what he once was which was a very good but not dominant left tackle, Incognito WFT?!? stop being 'tough' and just start blocking consistently, the other 2 guys are forgettable at best... and Pouncey through very good, is not enough to make up for the shortcomings of the other 4 positions. It's been a month since we've had any kind of running game. At some point.. the blame has to go up front.

5 TD's in 9 games is beyond pathetic. Start Moore and try Tanny at WR.

Craig M,

In regards to Miller, I think it's a simple combination of things.

1. When given his first opportunity, he blew his rushing assignment. He ran the wrong way and caused a broken play.

2. Shortly after, second opportunity, he blew a pass blocking assignment.

He got off to a rough start. Maybe even might be a slow learner. But Philbin, being Old School wasn't having it. He wants everyone to earn their places/reps. And he doesn't want to send mixed messages. He harps all everyone being accountable and I pretty much agree.

On top of that, at the time Miller was making his mistakes, our run game was clicking along pretty good. No need to rush the kid when he showed he wasn't quite ready.

Having said all that, I think it's time to revisit the issue. I think Miller has 21 or 22 carries now and he's averaging over 5.5.

I saw a couple of interviews with Miller and he doesn't come off as a Rhoads Scholar-LOL. But hopefully he's been studying.

yeah they should have done that with Favre

FIRELAND was too stupid to tell last years's waste of a team to suck for Luck. The Colts absolutely and unapologetically purposely lost games to guarantee the first pick. These idiots were too stupid to do that. The Dolphins have far less talent today than the Colts had last year.

CFF That is exactly what philbin is saying. They both aren't doing there jobs correctly on 3rd and short. It's a mixture of bad play all around.

@3:11
Spot on about miller. They need to get him involved. Philbin said that the benching of Reggie was planned really that they were going to go into this game using all three backs. I think that the fumble just gave the opportunity to make a point.

Not drafting Matt Ryan has set us back 10 years.

I think that the fumble just gave the opportunity to make a point.


Posted by: Beerphin | November 12, 2012 at 03:24 PM


What point is that? That the team is pathetic? LOL


If you're telling me that we don't have a Larry Zonza I think that EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT! However, we NEED QUICK AN OFENSIVE LINE IMPROVEMENT & I FEEL THAT THE BODIES ARE THERE, JUST NOT YET WORKING IN TUNE! But I'm sure that Joe Philbin will COREECT THAT TOO!... Just saying...

Posted by: Victor Barney | November 12, 2012 at 03:04 PM

Yeah, I agree......I think.

Lane got crushed on that 3rd and 1 early. But if you noticed, Jerry, Martin and Fasano ALL THREE got driven back two yards by the time Tannehill handed the ball to Lane.

It has nothing to do with needing Lousaka Polite. The "Zonk" himself would have had trouble with the way the line got schooled on that particular play.

You can't turn the ball over... Players will be held accountable.

soooooo sun. loss at indy doesn't count huh.?.
lmao

there's no paxx of 10 or more yds, in shermans o huh.
lol

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You can't turn the ball over... Players will be held accountable.

Posted by: Beerphin | November 12, 2012 at 03:32 PM


But Hennehill can turn it over 4 times and its cool.


Thre words Welker, Polite, Ireland

wow...here's a thought...stop running the same short yardage plunge with a bunch set...how about trying something different...wouldn't that be a novel idea?

why snot spread them out and make it harder for the other team to defend? There's a stat for everything these days and my eyes say we have failed 75% of the time with that rediculous play...is that accurate?

What we really need is another pass rusher. Wake is Ok but he is our only real threat.
The running game has stalled because they took away the cut back running game. we ran the play a hundred times and now the linebacker is waiting in the middle for our guy.
We really sucked yesterday and I stopped watching after the first half. I don't want to see the team beat down like that.

You get what you pay for, let long go, bush go,dansby go, they are way overpaid, this year is a rebuilding year so why not rebuild. I am sure you can still get something out of those three. Create some cap space and pick up some more draft picks. Every team in the division is on the down hill side except the dolphins, some right decisions and they could be super bowl bound in two years.

The very fact that Philbin didn't bench Tannehill and play Moore,tells me that the Fins are playing for next years draft.If not.then how do you explain this pathetic performance?

Armando,

The Dolphins have to change to play at the line of scrimage when the defense is stacked for short yardage. Tannehill has to use his head and change the play. Why would a team want to run into what another team is trying to take away. Pass the ball short or on a quick slant. This team is also now losing because teams know the weakness of the Dolphins is their secondary. The Patriots picked up a talented troublesome DB, so the Dolphins should do the same.

Why can't the Dolphins play where the Marlins play, then it will have gone complete circle? The stadium holds more than enough seats for most Dolphin games and the demand for tickets will increase and place will be filled and they can pay Loria rent. It will also help the economy of Little Havana.


Dolphins, Hurricanes,,,, they both look like the same team. Underachieves. Overrated quaterbacks playing. Dolphins have another Chad Henne on the making. Cannes,,, the same Jacory Harris situation... not playing well. but coaches are ok with it. Not out even for a single drive. And please,, let's not get to the coaching.... lame,, fearful, idiotic. The worst part with both teams..... they both have enough talent to be on top of their divisions (this is not an overrated comment). Chec what both quaterbacks do after an ofensive drive that didn't work out. They seat to rest and watch the game. Check what Manning (both, Peyton and Ely), Brady, Rogers,Rivers, Breess etc. They go to check on the pictures to see what went wrong to correct it. I guess for our coaches their quaterback are doing good. well... what would you expect from them.

Dolphins, Hurricanes,,,, they both look like the same team. Underachieves. Overrated quaterbacks playing. Dolphins have another Chad Henne on the making. Cannes,,, the same Jacory Harris situation... not playing well. but coaches are ok with it. Not out even for a single drive. And please,, let's not get to the coaching.... lame,, fearful, idiotic. The worst part with both teams..... they both have enough talent to be on top of their divisions (this is not an overrated comment). Chec what both quaterbacks do after an ofensive drive that didn't work out. They seat to rest and watch the game. Check what Manning (both, Peyton and Ely), Brady, Rogers,Rivers, Breess etc. They go to check on the pictures to see what went wrong to correct it. I guess for our coaches their quaterback are doing good. Well... what would you expect from them.

Miller is not a good blocker. That's what coaches say is why he doesn't play. He is the faster and the best out of the 3 running backs the fins have. My quesstion to the coaches is.... If you are going to run the ball,what difference does it make if he can block or not? don't you have your linemen, fullbacks ot tight ends for that? If you are passing the ball. just don't send him in that play. again,,, this are the Fins offensive coaching staff.

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