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Russell Wilson great but not as much on the road

Ryan Tannehill or Russell Wilson. Which of these two rookie quarterbacks is playing better right now?

Definitely Wilson. No doubt.

By every measurable statistical standard Wilson is the better player today. The former third round draft pick has been a pleasant surprise for the Seattle Seahawks and has been, arguably, one of the top two productive rookie quarterbacks in the league this season.

But before you become depressed about the quarterback matchup Sunday, you must understand there are two Russell Wilsons -- the home Russell and the away Russell.

And the home Russell is amazing while the away Russell is still playing like a rookie.

At home Wilson has completed 69 of 111 passes for 935 yards. That means he's completing an impressive 62.2 percent of his passes. But that is not his most impressive statistic at home.

Wilson, 23 years old, has thrown 11 TDs and zero interceptions at home.

His quarterback rating is 122.0 at home.

Impressive.

On the road, Wilson has been merely mortal. He's completed 88 of 142 passes, again for a 62 percent completion mark. He's thrown for 892 yards with four touchdowns and eight interceptions. His quarterback rating is 65.8.

So that should give you hope.

The problem is Tannehill hasn't been significantly better at home than Wilson has been on the road.

Tannehill is completing 58.2 percent of his passes of home and has thrown three touchdowns and four interceptions. His rating is 70.4 at home.

Indeed, away Tannehill has been almost more dynamic, throwing for nearly twice as many yards and averaging 7.60 yards per completion compared to 5.96 yards per completion at home. His QB rating on the road is higher at 71.1.

And so the question for Sunday will be can home Ryan be better than away Russell.

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WOW Jeff's first draft netted 1 starter.
Jeff's 2nd draft netted 1 raw rookie QB & an outmatched RT.

Both are starting out of necissity, NOT ability. Miami had NO other options at both positions. One could argue Moore could play but, why bother? The team needed a face for the franchise to get the fans excited.

Everyone else Ireland has drafted has been nothing more than backup material.

Hell if Obama could get re-elected with his pathetic track record of success, Ireland is a shoo in!

Getting a #2 for Vontae was a fine move. He could have settled for a #3 and some other GM's would have, but he held his cards and held out for a better offer.

Eyot,

Agreed but you also can't deny that he was another 1st round pick that didn't pan out...We're a 4-6 team b/c we've missed on too many players for too long.

It definitely goes beyond Parcells & Ireland. Mueller & Cameron's draft sucked, Saban's drafts sucked, & I don't remember Wannstadt ever having a good draft.

The problem is the same Doofus' that berate the GM will also be the same guys who berate Philbin before next year is over and will berate the GM within a couple of years. 15 teams with a record of 4-6 or worse and these guys minds we're the worst team in league. Only one WORST when it comes to this team...the WORST fanbase.


If Turner was a hit and UDFA Bess was a bust, nobody would bash Ireland on that. But Bess was the hit and Turner the bust, so you all focus on Turner.

What is the difference where you get them?

Posted by: Eyot | November 21, 2012 at 02:09 PM

hold up there nancy. Just like all you ireland apologists dismiss the failures of parcells years away from ireland try to be fair & dismiss the successes as well.

So wipe Wake, Bess & carpenter off your list of success stories. You really don't even have 1 leg to stand on trying to defend an incomptent baffon in Ball Boy ireland.

But, it's funny to watch y`all keep tryin!

Vontae was a very late #1 pick. Ok, didn't pan out, but getting a # 2 for him 4 years later is essentially getting back the price we paid for him.

It definitely goes beyond Parcells & Ireland. Mueller & Cameron's draft sucked, Saban's drafts sucked, & I don't remember Wannstadt ever having a good draft.
Posted by: We Have Draft Picks


Case in point right there. You don't like ANY of their drafts. I'm trying to figure out what you would like. Do you need 3-4 Pro Bowlers to be drafted every year to be happy. I mean what is it you're looking for?

Doesn't like anyone's drafts. So there it is. Doesn't matter who you are or what you're drafting, we won't like it. Great fanbase!

Hey Craig M, Tuna made his draft picks based on whose scouting reports?

DUH

You will need to come up with something better than hatred and mockery to support your position. Otherwise, it looks like you are just being negative to get an argument out of someone.

Hey jack in the box where are you so i can put my pistol to your head and pull the trigger!

Our draft was rated very high, an A, this year by the analysts who know more about this than any blogger here. Check it out.


I mean what is it you're looking for?

Posted by: Craig M | November 21, 2012 at 02:26 PM

Is it too much for you to fall off the face of the earth? We'd settle you disappearing from this blog.

We don't need much, that would suffice!

Yeah I woouldn't expect you to be balanced and mention that Bush had his first 1,000 yard rushing season last year but rather to focus on the one game he was benched for this year. You're right for a 5th round pick, it was a TERRIBLE trade. Should have been fired for it, gotcha.

Incognito, starter ever since he's been here. Solidified the OL. Yep, another terrible pick up. Gotcha....

Craig,

Who cares if Incognito is a starter when the O-line is the biggest issue on this team right now???? Jerry has been a starter this year too. Just b/c he's a starter that doesn't make him any more than a mediocre player???

The running game & the play of the O-line was absolutely PATHETIC against the Bills. This wasn't the Texans or the Niners defense okay??? The Bills have a horiffic defense this year & our guys got their a@@es handed to them for three quarters before they finally figured something out on offense.

77, football blogs are not worth killing someone over.

The fins are 2 more seasons away from being a healthy franchise....and it's got nothing to do with coaching.

They haven't drafted well since Shula (Ireland's are probably the best since), and have spent too much money and too many draft picks on FAs that haven't stuck.

That doesn't get fixed overnight, just my opinion.

I'd hoped they could slide into the playoffs during a down year in the AFC, but, the last 3 games had to be W's...we're just spoilers now.


At this point, it's simply not helpful for Ireland to be fired. Then we get a new GM. Who needs to learn the team, HC, needs, etc. That's if he gets along with the HC. That's more years of instability. More years of the team being the butt of jokes in the NFL.

Green Bay, Steelers, Ravens, Patriots... WHICH elite teams work like that? Changing out mgmt every year. Think about it.

If Ross didn't trust Ireland, he would have gotten rid of him LAST year (with Sparano). If he was putting him on a 1-year leash, then ROSS IS A MORON! Any NFL-pundit will tell you constant change is a sure way to be a loser in the NFL.

So please stop with all the Ireland bashing. He ain't goin' anywhere. And if you want the team to succeed, you better damn well PRAY he acquires some talent next year, because he's the GM.


Our draft was rated very high, an A, this year by the analysts who know more about this than any blogger here. Check it out.

Posted by: Eyot | November 21, 2012 at 02:30 PM

Yes, Mel Kiper is an "expert"

Hopefully Ryan gets this o going I just don't understand what happened to this offence

It looks like Dolphin 77 is of the neeg persuason.

Why won't you answer,

Well first of all we have no clue what Parcells made his picks based on. We weren't there. But we do know he's got a huge ego and at the end of the day will do whatever he wants. I happen to believe the Long pick was HIS pick. It's his party and he'll do what he wants to but that smells largely like a Parcells pick. Taking a franchise Lt is exactly the kind of thing he would do. I also believe he wasn't sold on Ryan.

YOu do realize there's a whole scouting staff evaluating players, right? So it was based on THEIR information. Ireland just heads that up. But I believe that while Parcells was here, he had final say on decisions. I've read nothing to the contrary. So people can say what they want but I truly believe that the plan to take Long and Henne was what Parcells wanted. Ireland? Not sure it even matters what he wanted. It was Parcells show.

DC, Did it take long for Grigsby to pan out in Indy?

I didn't think so.

"Many of you are nothing but a bunch of Negative Nancy's.

You are too happy to jump on the negative side of all things Ireland.

What is it? Jealousy? You could do better? You don't like his personality? He asked Dez a non-policitically correct question?

Or, could it be you are just a bunch of sissies?"

Eyot,

That may be true for some people but personally I'd just like to see us have a good team. After 5 years of 'rebuilding' I think we deserve better than the product that was on the field against the Bills.

Yes, Mel Kiper is an "expert"

Posted by: LOL | November 21, 2012 at 02:33 PM

It wasn't Mel. But what is funny is that it is only you that thinks your opinion has more value than a grain of sand.

Your best rebuttal is LOL. Impressive.

Ireland,

He has hit on some but missed on way more. On the bright side Miami will have about $40 M in cap space and Ireland did put Miami in a position where they have 5 picks in the first 100.

For Miami to ever take the next step though they need someone who won't miss on skill players. They need someone who guys want to play for. None of that describes Jeff Ireland.

The dilemma I see is where does that leave the coaching staff. Say what you want but Philbin is doing the best job he can with such little talent. I am willing to give him time. Turnover every year puts you in the same position we are in now.

If Miami picked today they would be #10.

Bjoern Werner DE Florida State
Keenan Allen WR California
Justin Hunter WR Tennessee
Luke Joeckel OT Texas A&M
Dee Milliner CB Alabama

Draft Picks,

Yeah, I agree. This year has been disappointing. You could say new coaches, new QB and all that, but, it is just another excuse. We saw some promising games early and now back to the same old thing.

We are seeing coaches and rookies turn teams around fast, so it can be done. Unfortunately we are already in wait until next year mode.

Vontae was a very late #1 pick. Ok, didn't pan out, but getting a # 2 for him 4 years later is essentially getting back the price we paid for him.

Eyot,

Before you pop the champagne let's see who we draft with that pick.

YOu do realize there's a whole scouting staff evaluating players, right? So it was based on THEIR information. Ireland just heads that up

Posted by: Craig M | November 21, 2012 at 02:34 PM

So as usual, your position is Ireland is not responsible even though he is the HEAD of the inept talent evaluation operation? lmao lmao lmao

People in charge are NOT accountable for their department or employees failures! PRAISE THE LORD! You just revealed how delusional you are to how the world works & real life.

Nothing is Ireland's fault. EVEN THOUGH HE'S IN CHARGE OF THE TALENT EVALUATION DEPT. HE'S UNTOUCHABLE! IT'S NEVER HIS FAULT! WE GET IT!

And we hope you get why we mock you ritualistically.

WHDPs,

So again you'd rather focus how bad our line is over the last three games, than the whole season? Man you're TOTALLY a chicken little. Anyone ever tell you that before? Are you like that in life? Where was all the complaining about the OL when Bush was running for 175 yards? When we were averaging 150 yards rushing a game.

What happened to the guy, when this team was 4-3 who was saying 'I was wrong about Hartline. I was wrong about Tannehill. I was wrong about Smith'. Did you get amnesia?

The line is 'a total mess'. Yeah OK. I was at the game in Buffalo. I saw that. But are the Bears saying 'we're no good' because a rookie Q just beat then 32-7 on Prime Time? A little perspective, please!


It wasn't Mel. But what is funny is that it is only you that thinks your opinion has more value than a grain of sand.

Your best rebuttal is LOL. Impressive.

Posted by: Eyot | November 21, 2012 at 02:36 PM

All you homers are dull! So what expert analysts are you talking about? ENLIGHTEN US!

Mike Mayock? Corey Chavous? M. Lombardi? LMAO

You would think, if they were REALLY an expert, they would be in a draft room, not in front of a TV camera!

LOLOLOL You can't teach stupid, people!!

Ireland is good at some things like finding d-lineman and special team players, ancillary players. But what player has he drafted or been a part of the process that would be a star on any other team besides the Dolphins. Again talking draft so we can eliminate Wake.

If we are to build through the draft, is this the guy you really want heading up the picks? I'm not hating on the guy. Maybe he needed a 5 year learning curve, nd he'll finally get it.

Sad part is who will we replace him if he gets canned? Peterson? Polian?

I think Ireland is a C student at best and we need an above average GM to aquire the talent to turn this ship around. And you think Ireland is the man for that job?

Not me. But what do I know. I work as a project manager for an IT consulting firm.

Why don't you answer,

I obviously made a mistake in even starting to talk to you in first place. Out of courtesy I did. I see now it was a big mistake.

Why don't YOU tell me who was in charge while Bill Parcells was here, since you have all the answers. Tell me smart guy because you obviously have all the answers. Who was responsible for bringing the coach to Miami from Dallas? Who was resposible for putting the GM in place? Who do you THEN think might have had final say on personnel? Take a guess. You're turn to answer.

Draft Picks,

No champagne popping. Just saying we got our money back on him.

Many here can chirp Ireland all they want, but his last two drafts have given me more confidence in his abilities. People don't just get to be GM's you know. They pay their dues. Not one of you even have 1/10 the analysis ability of any GM out there. I'll take Irelands opinion over any one here all day every day.

LOL,

Or on a football blog PRETENDING to sound like they know what the f8ck they are talking about.

"He has hit on some but missed on way more. On the bright side Miami will have about $40 M in cap space and Ireland did put Miami in a position where they have 5 picks in the first 100.

For Miami to ever take the next step though they need someone who won't miss on skill players. They need someone who guys want to play for. None of that describes Jeff Ireland.

The dilemma I see is where does that leave the coaching staff. Say what you want but Philbin is doing the best job he can with such little talent. I am willing to give him time. Turnover every year puts you in the same position we are in now."

Andy,

I totally agree with you & there's NO WAY Philbin can be blamed for this mess he inherited. I ACTUALLY thought (& hoped) after we started 4-3 that maybe it was just bad coaching & poor development by Sparano & Co. but the problem is deeper.

At the end of the day you can't consistently win games with 'smoking mirrors.' If the talent is not there then teams are going to find a way to expose you which is exactly what has happened the last few weeks.

I'm not a fan of firing people just to fire people but I have serious concerns whether Ireland is just in way over his head. I don't think he's a 'bad guy', I just think that this is an EXTREMELY competitive business & if you don't get results then you get eliminated.

ou would think, if they were REALLY an expert, they would be in a draft room, not in front of a TV camera!

LOLOLOL You can't teach stupid, people!!

Posted by: LOL | November 21, 2012 at 02:43 PM


True, and you are stupid.

So I guess Cowher and Gruden, SB winning coaches, if they were really EXPERTS, would not be in front of a camera? That is what you are saying.

Has it ever occurred to you that in front of a camera is a far better job? Good pay and not 80 hour weeks year round?

Not to mention far better job security :)

Some of you couldn't out think a paper bag.

BuckeyeFinFan,

Define 'star'? Are we talking about a guy that would make four Pro Bowls in a row? That kind of star? Or a guy who many consider as one of the best Centers in the league? How about a guy who consistently ctaches over 100 catches a year and 1,000 yards. Would those guys be stars? Because we have a couple of those guys on the team and just traded the other away.

They haven't drafted skill players high enough because the emphasis has been on the lines. I believe we'll start to see some skill players added to the ones drafted last year going forward.

Eyot,

Just because someone has the title of an NFL GM doesn;t mean they are good at it. Sometimes people get positions in life due to politicsand various other reasons.

If Ireland were a QB he would be JP Losman.

LOL, did Grigsby come in with a new HC? THAT'S how it's done. If you're switching out the HC, then fine, get rid of the whole mgmt team. But that's not what Ross did. He said he had full faith in Ireland, and just wanted to replace the HC. He did that, then they had 1 Draft, and pretty much everyone says that's the best Draft Ireland's had here. So, the reading on the wall says the Owner gives it time to develop. You guys want to give Philbin time, Tannehill time. Ross doesn't see the last 4 years as Ireland's fault (if he did he would have gotten rid of him).

I'm not getting into the argument of Ireland being good or great or whatever as a GM. That's probably still to be decided. What I'm saying is I don't see it happening. And don't think it helps on the stability question. And with a new HC, system, QB, and talent level of the team before the Season (remembering we got rid of some talent this year for draft picks next year), I think the Owner wasn't expecting much this year, and therefore won't see the job of the GM the same as you and others that want him gone.

Eyot,

Where have you been man. Finally a voice of reason.

Don't you know the world's coming to an end because we're not winning the Super Bowl again this year. We were promised it too when we were 4-3.

The problem is a huge part of the fanbase got swept up in the glee of being 4-3 and now they're back to their bitter ways....morons!

Buckeye

Just because they have the title doesn't mean they are good, but I see Ireland's last two drafts on his own as being good.

Regardless of what anyone thinks about Ireland, I'd take his opinion over any blogger here who doesn't have a lick of pro scouting experience.

Come draft day, do you want Ireland or do you really want Duh and LOL making the decisions?

"So again you'd rather focus how bad our line is over the last three games, than the whole season? Man you're TOTALLY a chicken little. Anyone ever tell you that before? Are you like that in life? Where was all the complaining about the OL when Bush was running for 175 yards? When we were averaging 150 yards rushing a game."

Craig,

The O-line has struggled in pass protection all season except for the Cincinnati & Jet game but at least the running game was working. Now that the running game is not working & since you were at the Bills game you can CLEARLY see that the O-line was not moving anyone.

Yes the O-line is a major issue but don't worry...That STILL won't stop Ireland from either franchising Long or giving him the biggest Oline contact in NFL history.

BuckeyeFinFan,

Who would Scott Pioli be? How about AJ Smith? Bill Polian?

I guess these guys got dumb all of a sudden because they were either fired or are about to be fired. How about Gene Smith in Jacksonville? Once regarded as one of the bright minds in the game, he's about to get chopped too because he picks Blaine Gabbert and the team is 1-9. These must all be 'overwhelmed', don't you know.

WHDPs,

The OL is my biggest concern right now because I don't get it. Yes, manhandled in the games you talked about. We have two first round picks on the line and a second. The other two guys had been holding their own. So with the line I don't know what the answer is. Do you blow it up and start adding again. If you do that you can forget about the skill players, which is what this team really needs.

Craig I think that is part of it. Nobody expected such a good start and they immediately were expecting too much. I see the rest of the season as a showcase for the new coaching staff to see how they handle the adversity and whether they can end the season like they started it.


With a nice stash of draft picks, there is plenty of reason to be optimistic, yes even with Ireland doing the picking, because he works WITH the coaching staff and not against them.

When bashing the fo, most are bashing the Parcells/Ireland combo even though Parcells ckicken sh*tted out and is long gone. So many mistakes have been made. So many do overs.

2008

Smiley/Grove, Wilford

Smiley/Grove eventually cut. The repercussion? Ended up with Incognito, solid but not even close to pro bowl. He is voted 2nd dirtiest player in the league by his peers though. The failure of Grove led to having to spend a 1st rd pick on Pouncey.

Isnt Samson Satele still a starting center? The guy Parcells/Ireland said wasnt big enough? Well he's been a starter for the teams he's played on since.

Ernest Wilford. Never saw the playing field. Huge bust. Led to the signing of Marshall. Marshall's gone. Looks we're still goping to have to se a high draft pick to finally get that #1 wr.

I quit. Im not even going over anything else. Just far too much to list. Its like writing a book.

Bottomline: Ive never seen 1 fo have to do so many do overs because they got it wrong the 1st and sometimes the 2nd time too. That's exactly why 5yrs later we're still rebuilding.

Craigm, you style and daily criticizing anyone with a logical viewpont is beyond tiresome. Get a new schtick or a new place to ruin. Your played out here to the max.

You and 1 or 2 other dolts think ireland is worth keeping around. Only you can take a small minority and portray yourselves as the overwhelming majority.

You & your rhetorical sarcasm are beyond stale, bud.

We Have Draft Picks,

exactly! At the end of the day the lack of talent exposed Miami for what it is. I'm in the minority and glad it worked out this way. If Miami had won those early season games vs AZ and Jets they would 6-4 and fooling us all with we aren't that far off. There's no way this team can compete with the big boys. There is too little talent across the board.

I do like some of the younger talent and would like to see where it goes but not sure Ireland can right the ship. If he stays so be it because there's nothing we can do except hope he finally gets it but Miami is so inept on offense because they dont have any play makers still just a bunch of guys.

It's funny how everyone dismisses all the pundits, experts and now in decline GM's. So they laugh at everyone's opinion, people with decades of pro experience, none of them are worth a dime, yet their own experienceless opinion to them is the only right opinion.

The critics of Ireland are critics of everyone but maybe the last few GM's to win a SB. That tells you how little they understand about how hard it is for all the right pieces to come together at the same time.

"LOL, did Grigsby come in with a new HC? THAT'S how it's done. If you're switching out the HC, then fine, get rid of the whole mgmt team. But that's not what Ross did. He said he had full faith in Ireland, and just wanted to replace the HC. He did that, then they had 1 Draft, and pretty much everyone says that's the best Draft Ireland's had here. So, the reading on the wall says the Owner gives it time to develop. You guys want to give Philbin time, Tannehill time. Ross doesn't see the last 4 years as Ireland's fault (if he did he would have gotten rid of him).

I'm not getting into the argument of Ireland being good or great or whatever as a GM. That's probably still to be decided. What I'm saying is I don't see it happening. And don't think it helps on the stability question. And with a new HC, system, QB, and talent level of the team before the Season (remembering we got rid of some talent this year for draft picks next year), I think the Owner wasn't expecting much this year, and therefore won't see the job of the GM the same as you and others that want him gone."


DC,

You make a good point. My guess is that Ross' plan was to keep Ireland to rebuild with Philbin. There's no doubt about it. However I also think that Ross expected more out of this team & that Ireland needed to show improvement over last year.

If we play like we did against the Bills & the Titans for the rest of the season then I can DEFINITELY see Ross' plans changing.

Carig-

I'll give you Pouncey..forgot about him. That was a good pick. And if you pick a LT #1 overall that guy better be a peinieal Pro-Bowler. I love Long but he made his last Pro-Bowl on name recognition-imo. So, I'll give you Pouncey and Long.

And if we're drafting lineman next year in the first 2 rounds then Irelands the perfect guy for it.

And when I meant star I left it subjective on purpose because if you have to dichotomize the term "star" then chances are that person isn't a star. We need skill positions and defensive playmakers...in the draft.

If we need UDFA, special team players, and depth at RB and TE then Jeff's the guy.

But I could be wrong. Maybe he is at the point where he learned from his mistakes and the last couple of years he had to clean up Parcells' mistakes.

Again, I'm no expert. Just giving my opinion on how I see things.

gig,

Thanks for the advice. I'll keep it in mind.

Now go f8ck yourself....

We al know Parcells was a control freak. When he came in he brought Sporano and Ireland with him. Parcels is a "Run First" guy. He brought in Pennington (not such a great arm) and drafted Long. We went to the playoffs that year. Parcels moved on and left Sporano and Ireland to figure it out on their own. As long as we had a great running game Long was not part of our conversations. I guess Parcels knew he plays the run better than pass protect. That being said this is a completely different system which is based on the passing game opening up the running game. I consider this year as an evaluation year and next year a rebuilding year. Ireland will have to get the players Philbin needs, not what he thinks is right for the system. Of all the draft picks we have if we hit 50% we should be O.K. Also serious decessions have to be made regarding overrated/overpayed players. If we are not a playoff contender next year then Ireland must go.

Your mistake wasn't talking to me. Your mistake was flapping your gums.

You blatanlty stated Ireland is just in charge of people scouting. Have you no shame? You will stop at NOTHING in your defense of him. Doesnt` running a dept.
Make you responsible? In your eyes it makes you untouchable.

Ask yourself a real world question and then youd see how dumb and obnoxious you are.

If you headed up a dept of employees and they routinely underperformed in their jobs, how long would they be employed before someone fired them and replaced them with compotent employees?

In your demented view, at least 6 years! You obviously aren't qualified to run a business. You and the other homer are oblivious to what the real world is like.

Tannehill wasnt much in college, either when you think about it.

CraigM, Eyot, and others,

Ireland had a solid draft, yes. But it doesnt excuse the fact that the overall talent on this present roster is like year 2 in rebuilding. Greatest problem about that is whether it's Parcells, Ireland, or both are at fault. We're in year 5 of rebuilding now.

Even if Ireland is allowed to oversee the finally and finally gets it right. We're still at least 2 more years from that happening. Even if Ireland gets evrything right from this point on. Its still a total 7-8yrs of rebuilding with Ireland's name in the quotient that it finally took to do it right.

A gm having 7-8yrs to finally build a solid playoff team is nearly unheard of. Even when you build a solid playoff team its still very difficult to win a sb. That's a 7-8yr rebuilding process with still no guarantee of winning a sb. Because there are other solid playoff teams out there too.

"The OL is my biggest concern right now because I don't get it. Yes, manhandled in the games you talked about. We have two first round picks on the line and a second. The other two guys had been holding their own. So with the line I don't know what the answer is. Do you blow it up and start adding again. If you do that you can forget about the skill players, which is what this team really needs."

Craig,

That's EXACTLY the reason I'm freaking out over this team. The O-line should be playing better at this point in the season--not worse. They've been starting the same five guys all season so wtf??? And against the Bills & the Titans defense??? Come on...No one is going to confuse those teams with the '85 Bears okay???


Buckeye,

This team's in need of a top saftey, another pass rusher and some help at WR, CB and TE. If the team can fill those needs in FA and the draft and keep most of their FA's we're talking about a total diferent team. I don't get some peoples attraction to Clemmons. He's totally garbage! A dominant safety back there would make all the difference in the world.

The team has gone further downhill every day since Parcells left....

"A gm having 7-8yrs to finally build a solid playoff team is nearly unheard of. Even when you build a solid playoff team its still very difficult to win a sb. That's a 7-8yr rebuilding process with still no guarantee of winning a sb. Because there are other solid playoff teams out there too."

YG,

Very good points but nothing is 'guaranteed.' Even if you're a good team like the Steelers or the Bears when you get injuries to your QB or other key players you're in trouble.

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