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Winning is better than losing and Bush helps winning

Let's start out by saying that Sunday was a good day for the Dolphins.

Winning is much better than losing anytime, anywhere, anyhow. And, as I wrote in my column for The Herald, beating the Jacksonville Jaguars may not feel like an awesome accomplishment but it was important for Miami because it avoided making today feel like Armaggedon.

Having said that, I saw a couple of things Sunday that raised questions about the entire season:

1. Have the Dolphins maximized Reggie Bush?

Bush rushed 21 times for 104 yards. It marked the first time he went over 100 yards in a game since Sept. 16. And that was also the last time he got the ball 20 times or more in a game. Coincidence?

I don't think so. I think that in the desire to keep Bush healthy and spread the wealth, the Dolphins have made their running game poorer by not using their best weapon enough. At least that's what the statistics say.

The only reason Bush got more work Sunday is because Daniel Thomas suffered a knee injury on his first and only carry of the day. (More on that in a sec.).

So it was Bush that got opportunity after opportunity, which is something he loves. I asked him if he rather tote the ball 20-plus times per game or if he prefers the 12-14 times per game the Dolphins like to limit him to.

“That’s an easy question; 20 and up," he said. "You know what, obviously every game and every scenario is different. Sometimes you are going to throw the ball a little more and sometimes we’re playing from behind so you have to get a quick score. This is a game where I think we controlled the game for the most part, so we were able to kind of dictate what we wanted to do on offense, not coming from behind like we have been in the past throwing a lot.”

Yeah, Bush tried to cover with the idea that sometimes he doesn't get the ball because the Dolphins are trying to catch up and aren't running. But what about the times they simply are sitting him in favor of, well, inferior players?

Let's face it, Bush is better with more carries. Why?

"Why is more better? Because I am a running back, I don’t know," he said. "Running backs always want the ball more. I’m a playmaker and I like having the ball in my hands. I feel like the more touches I get, the more chances I have to make good plays out there.”

Agreed.

Now, about Thomas. You all know how I feel about him.

I simply don't think he's been very good. I don't see nearly the potential in him the Dolphins see. He's just a guy, in my opinion.

And Sunday offered another reason why I believe that:

2. Thomas has durability issues.

He's gotten knocked out of three games this year with injuries. He suffered a couple of concussions and yesterday went out with the knee injury. His status for Sunday is questionable at best.

Well, to me, durability is a critical factor on which players are judged. Some guys are simply more injury prone than others. And while Thomas is not what I would call injury-prone at this stage, there is no denying he's missed more time than any other running back on the roster because of injury.

That is something the Dolphins must consider for next year if they are going to pass the mantle of the RB position to Thomas and Lamar Miller and let Bush walk in free agency.

 

 

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Oscar,

I Know Most of us. Don't Have A Mental Illness!! But You Have To Admit More People Are Born Now!! With Mental Problems!! Than Before!!

Specially with A New Disease!! Like Autism!!

Yeah 2 watt what in the heck are you talking about.

And Dashi, holy crap with the exclamations.

The best Bill of them all, Oscar. It was nice sticking it to the Bills by having him dress up in our uniform for his final stretch though. And beating the Bills once no less.

Pretty hard for people to say 'let Bush go' when nobody has a clue what his intentions are. Interesting, it's the same guys that are saying 'let Long go'. Obviously these guys have inside information on the situation that none of us know. There's no other explanation.

The ideal situation is that Bush likes it here, doesn't want to greedy and wants to sign a reasonable deal for 2-3 years. He's be the main guy but in tandem with the other two.

I keep reading 'we gotta get playmakers'....'we gotta get playmakers'. I must be missing something....is Bush not a playmaker? Who are there 'playmakers' everybody wants? Curious? It's the trendy thing to say but what exactly does it mean? Do you mean a guy that has speed and can take it to the house? Isn't that Bush?

I happen to believe the coaching staff hasn't done a good job utilizing this guy this year. I see what the Bills do with Spiller, moving him around and we don't do enough of that with Bush. Blame Sherman.

The same guys that want to spend $8-9 million on Bowe or Wallace are the same guys that would let Bush walk for $4-5 mil a year. Comical actually...

oscar, o/s = open sores.
lol

..."Whoever called the fake FG should be fired immediately, even it was Philbin himself"...

Posted by: THE (real) BOX SCORE
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It wasn't a "called" play.... It was a sight read by the Holder, Fields. If you watch the play from the beginning, you will see that Anthony Fasano was off to the right (nearly at the sideline) and completely uncovered. Fields read is to throw it in that case... but he failed to see the defender kick out to coverage while making certain he caught the snap. Fields took the snap and stood to throw but by then Fasano was covered.When he saw Fasano covered, he threw the ball out of bounds. He had the right idea, but should have checked one more time before committing.

Phins 78,

That is part of the always evolving Dashi Writing Style!! Makes It Harder To Impersonate!!

And I've Toned Down The "!!!!!"

o/s = off season knuckleheads.
lol

If the choice is Long or Bush I'd rather resign Long. RB will be a luxury and OL will be at a premium if Long walks and Bush resigns. Yes I'd like to keep Bush for his work ethic and game-changing ability but if Miller fills that role (of playmaker) then we have no need to spend money on Bush

I see a lot more cross utilization to evaluate players who can play multiple positions, in the last two games. Philbin likes what he saw yesterday and you could see it in his demeanor on the side lines. He needs to evaluate the younger players a little more. I forgot to mention Matthews, and with Clay, Bess and Thomas(maybe) as part of the offense in the next two games he can be a lot more flexable in his play calling. The younger players are getting better as they gain experience. Bush, Thigpen and Miller can be used both, in the back field and as a slot receiver, maybe see Bess being used in reverses??????

I think somewhere there has to be a better plan than 'get rid of everybody'. Isn't that what we've been doing for years? You telling me Ginn wouldn't loko good at running back kicks? Ninkovich couldn't help this team?

We are 6-8. Guys do realize that, right? Two missed kicks away from being 8-6 and in a Wild Card Spot. Hilarious to me that it's all doom and gloom....24/7.

MiamiD20,

What if you could have both? What if the market isn't huge for both there guys and they buy into what the team is building? Can't happen? OK....let's see.

Noth these guys signed HUGE contracts under the old CBA. I highly doubt their new deals are going to be about money. It's going to be about winning. Do they see it here or not? If not, they'll probably go somewhere else....but don't forget, Bush had his best season here last year. He could go somewhere else and end up a spare part.

I believe the free agent with the most leverage is Sean Smith, followed by Hartline. So little depth at those positions that they will most certainly get paid.

Craig, interesting theory but don't you think that Chicago fans will be urging their management to throw the blank cheque at Jake Long given what's going on there and how much blame is being thrust on the tackle position??

I still think a lot of the slide has to dow ith Cutler and Marshall. It's no coincidence that Denver lost a lot of games with those two despite throwing up monster numbers. Those are Madden/ESPN players. Nice for stat lines and SportsCentre but when the heat is one, both wilt like roses in November.

Either bush or DT will be gone after the season. We won't have the same cast of characters running the ball next year. Since DT is signed for another year and Ireland gave up 3 picks for him I bet he stays and bush goes.

Yeah, I agree with that Mark. Pretty much have their hands tied to re-sign both. If only to prevent a drop in production from what is already the weakness. Smith as a #2 would be fine too, he has done alright as a #1 actually.

Craig, if they can keep him great. But he is probably the least important FA they have and RB is probably the easiest position to fill. They also already drafted his replacement (Miller).

"Makes It Harder To Impersonate!!"

lol That's true. The impostors are nothing if not lazy. They probably don't want to sit around pushing the exclamation keys that much so maybe you're on to something.

vd the tackling machine in indy now that he's healthy,
nice f'ing goin ireputz.
ya'll c the phins logo with the dolphin in a paper bag.
lol. f'n fatcells spazano and irecorn.

2 Watt... I agree with you that this o/s will either be the launching point for a competitive Miami Dolphins Organization, or be the catalyst for yet another 3 years watching a coach implode while seeking his replacement. And regretfully, it is not in Coaches hands how that falls.
Very rarely does a team have 5 picks in the first 100 drafted and also have as many players at the end of they're contracts. I read where many feel Miami is at disadvantage for having so many Free Agents.... I must disagree, its not like we have gone to back to back AFC Championship games and are trying to keep a team intact to make the final run. There are some guys who need to be cut loose and some that need to stay... I believe Miami to be slow in they're negotiations until they see just who they can count on and who they can't. Personally, I'm glad no extensions or contract deals have been made yet.... I want all the facts before signing or releasing anyone...

Arizona too for Jake. There will be intense suitors and it will cost money. No home discount with his agent.... There are a lot of agents out there that refuse to draft Tom Condon players for that reason.

Bush rushed 21 times for 104 yards. It marked the first time he went over 100 yards in a game since Sept. 16. And that was also the last time he got the ball 20 times or more in a game. Coincidence?

I don't think so. I think that in the desire to keep Bush healthy and spread the wealth, the Dolphins have made their running game poorer by not using their best weapon enough. At least that's what the statistics say.

Mando,

You seem to forget that Bush got hurt & he was not the same RB for a few games after that. I think if he never got banged up, he would have a monster season.

He looked great yesterday except for a couple of runs where he took the ball too far into the backfield (dancing) instead of running straight ahead & hitting the open hole.

Not sure about Bush and Long. Remember, we are still alive for the Playoffs and a chance for more Games to evaluate our Players here.

Craig I don't know what anyone else is saying but all I'm saying is don't over pay to keep him. If someone wants to pay him like a top 5 back there's no way we can match. I might even go past top 8 money with an offer. I mean the guy is 16th in the league.

And if you're going to rush him for more than 20 times a game be used to him being hurt like he was earlier in the season when his production dropped. It all depends on asking price for me. In this era when running backs are starting in their first seasons and setting records and when good to great backs are routinely found in the later rounds of the draft I don't think it is a wise move to over invest.

"That is something the Dolphins must consider for next year if they are going to pass the mantle of the RB position to Thomas and Lamar Miller and let Bush walk in free agency."

If the Dolphins let Bush walk then I think we're looking at either signing someone else in FA or drafting another RB.

From a durability/production standpoint you can't rely on Thomas to be the starter next year & although Miller & Thigpen both have a LOT of upside there's just not enough film on either player.

Let's see...Bush is a playmaker...We have none on offense...He's got great work ethic, great leadership, all important stuff to have on a young team with a young QB...LB's can't cover him, so he's a factor in the passing game as well, although our coaching staff still don't know this apparently...He loves Miami, always gives 110% effort...It's a no brainer, so it's safe to say Ireland will let him go...

This team needs more skill players on offense, so IMO I would resign Bess, Bush,Hartline and Long.But if I had to choose two to resign, they would be Bush and Hartline the two most productive skill players on the team in 2012.I would still draft mostly offensive players in the draft, and use FA to aquire the right players that are needed at the right price.

I don't know where you got your numbers, but here are the the real 40 numbers from NFL Draft scout. And you are right about Nelson, he did have a 4.37 40, but the rest are wrong. Jennings combine was 4.42. Jones was 4.54 from ESPN combine coverage, and Driver 4.45 from the NFL Draft Scout. They are fast but no burners except for Nelson. I don't know where you got Hartline's Combine 40 because he was injured and didn't run at the combine, at his pro day he ran a 4.49. He is well within the GB receiver's speed.

Mike | December 17, 2012 at 07:31 AM


You keep insisting on a line of debate as if the solution to the WR problem was on the team or something, are you really Jeff Ireland??

J.Nelson posted a 4.37 and G.Jennings at the combine due to injury posted actually in the low 4.4's but later posted at a Pro Day a 4.33, I will look it up and post it for you. J.Jones I felt was a legit 4.4 guy and I guess quicker than he seems. At this point Driver is more part time but:

Randall Cobb


The Randall Cobb File

Position: Wide receiver

School: Kentucky

Height, weight: 5-10 1/4, 191 pounds.

Age: 20

Measurables: 4.37 seconds in the 40-yard dash. … 1.49 10-yard dash. … 2.53 20-yard dash. … 4.09 20-yard shuttle. … 6.68 three-cone drill. … 35-inch vertical jump. … 10-2 broad jump. … 32 ¼-inch arm length. … 9 ¼-inch hands.


That is 3 legit 4.3 guys running in the mid-4.3 range and don't forget the 4.6 T.E. JerMicheal Finley. The Packers of today are a team with a BAD OL and mediocre RB's but can stretch any D with all the players they use in a bunch of different formations. We in contrast have a #2 today in Bess who posted in the low 4.6 range and Fasano was a 4.86 guy, it's the reason they can't seperate because they can't run away from anybody.

The one thing I've noticed with Tannehill is he needs to hang his deep pass as opposed to the ropes he threw earlier and this is because of his WR's. If you have Mike Wallace it's nearly impossible to overthrow the man, Big Ben for all his arm threw it on the move over 60 yards and nearly underthrew him yesterday were Wallace had gotten behind a fast Dallas Secondary by a good 5 yards.

We could then draft Steadman Bailey out of WVU in RD-2 and add T.E. Finley if you can transforming your O almost immediately. At the same time leaving yourself lots of picks in a DB/Safety heavy 2013 draft. In my opinion the way to go adding alot of pieces to both sides hopefully improving the overall team speed (lost on Parcells)

Vontae Davis sucks. He sucked with the Dolphins and he will continue to suck with the Colts. He doesn't study opponents, he doesn't follow rules, he's lazy at practice, and it showed on the field when he would break down at the end of every game. F&^k Vontae Davis for wasting this teams time.

BTW I think both Bush and Hartline would be more valuable if the team had another running back and WR to complement Bush and Hartlines skills.

Craig, if I can have both I would BUT if signing both limits us in regards to a potential CB or LB then I'd rather pass. I don't want Bowe he gives up too much but I would love Wallace; Plaxico Burress in his prime but faster. We have a ton of cap space but imagine if we had that last year we could have signed Eric Winston

Which means following my thesis of drafting more offensive players I would look for WRs and running backs as well as TEs in the draft.

Phins78/Common Sense/Mark,

All good points.

Mark, yes I think those two teams will come large for Long. Only thing I'd say is, it's no the agent who has the final say but the player. I suspect Long likes it here, I still believe he'll end up in the HOF (yeah I don't think he's done, by any means....how's that!) and I suspect he'd like to go in as a Dolphin. First overall pick, team that gave him his chance...my guess is it would be his preference to play here. That's if he believes in Philbin and Ireland. Maybe he takes less money. Maybe he agrees to play RT at some point. I guess until we actually here from Jake nobody knows.

Phins78, I agree with you on Bush. I'm not advocating paying him top 5 money and I don't believe there's a team out there that would pay him that. But as we've seen with Thomas, no guarantee that 1st and 2nd round backs work out. I'm actually not excited about the prospects of Thomas and Miller next year, and I'd prefer we not draft another back, unless it's 4th round or lower.

I don't believe the coaching staff is limiting Bush's carries because his ability is lost on them. There is a reason why there are so few guys his weight and size that have long careers running between the tackles. I think the coaching staff is very much aware of his ability to bust a big play... they are also very cognoscente of his ability to lose 3 to five yards consistently... This team is not yet in a position to overcome 2nd and 13 or 3rd and 9. And a 5 or 6 yard loss places you exactly in that position. I would like to see Reggie catch some more passes out of the backfield against Buffalo and NE... THAT would give a better view of his future in Miami rather then pounding out 15 to 20 runs for 65 yards...

I believe the free agent with the most leverage is Sean Smith, followed by Hartline. So little depth at those positions that they will most certainly get paid.

Mark,

Agreed. It seems like the Dolphins are backed into a corner (not a word play or a pun or whatever) & have to keep him. Not b/c he's a great CB b/c he's not but b/c he's BY FAR the best CB we have.

With that said there's no player I'd rather see re-signed than Hartline. If he walks then I'll have even more concerns & questions with this franchise than I already have.

Where's all those idiot Henne lovers?? He's going to come to Miami and light it up...LOL!!! God some people here are friggin clueless...And those claiming Tannehill is another Henne??? Yeah, we all saw that yesterday didn't we...Morons...

This team needs more skill players on offense, so IMO I would resign Bess, Bush,Hartline and Long.But if I had to choose two to resign, they would be Bush and Hartline the two most productive skill players on the team in 2012.I would still draft mostly offensive players in the draft, and use FA to aquire the right players that are needed at the right price.

King,

Bess is not a FA after this season. Translation--we we don't need to re-sign a player when he's already under contract for next season.

MiamiD20,

I like Wallace a lot but I wouldn't go that route. Go find our Mike Wallace in the draft. They guy's there....they just have to do the work finding him. Now is that guy Patteron or Allen or someone else? I don't know.....that's not what I do for a living.

For the life of me, I don't know why would be a guy who's older, got a few miles on him and pay him MUCH more than a guy we would draft in the 2nd or 3rd round. To me that's the lazy way and not how you build a team. If we were one player away, I'd say 'go for it' but we're not.

Forgetabout drafting o-lineman in the first two rounds of the draft that dosent work anymore with the money that early round picks get nowadays and then in about five years the team will have to resign the player.If he becomes an all pro you will be paying for offensive line players dearly for ten years and they are just one cog in the unit that is the offensive line.A WR or TE even a running back can create plays on their own they dont really need the other players to help in their job,but the line is only as good as its weakest link.Parcells building a team from the line out was great when their wasnt free-agency.

Where's all those idiot Henne lovers?? He's going to come to Miami and light it up...LOL!!! God some people here are friggin clueless...And those claiming Tannehill is another Henne??? Yeah, we all saw that yesterday didn't we...Morons...

#1,

Oh they were here in droves yesterday on the live blog as soon as he threw his first incompletion. The 'Tannehill is a bust' posse was in full effect & then they all just suddenly disappered...Like magic. Poof!!! Gone. It was beautiful.

I'm on the fence about Smith. Just don't see enough there to justify paying him a big contract. Yeah I get that we're thin back there but I just don't see this guy as a guy that will get it done when you need it. He always seems to letdown rather than make a big play when needed.

My gut tells me I'd prefer to sign another FA, and maybe draft a guy in the third. Marshall will be back next, hopefully healthy and able to contribute. If we're talking something like a 5 year/$25mil contract for Smith then I don't think I'm interested.

Pouncey and Long have been good draft picks but that is two out of how many offensive lineman taken by the Dolphins early in the draft and in free-agency.I hope Ireland has learned from all this but I sincerely doubt it,hes a scout first and if a highly rated offensive lineman is available he take him over a WR or TE which is a more needed position for the Dolphins.

Phins78, That was the MO on Davis when Ireland deceided to draft him. He hasnt changed since he's been in the NFL. You should be posting Ireland sucks cause he was in the room when the Dolphins drafted him. Egnew also didnt ask to do much blocking in college so surprise when hes in the NFL he sucks at blocking. You cant make a leopard change its spots so you should really be clamoring Ireland sucks because he does. His scouting is atrocious.

The GM has to look at the BIG PICTURE when drafting players not JUST how he grades the player.

Brandon Carr's a guy I like a lot more than Smith, and he signed a big contract with Dallas. I'm seeing him week after week getting beat by WRs. Probably not his fault, more a function of the rules and an inconsistent pass rush in Dallas. I don't see Smith getting anywhere close to what Carr got but again I see Dallas giving up chunks of yards every week and Carr getting beat. Just not a fan of throwing good money at a guy who's not really impactful enough.

Craig I agree I want to find our own receiver, the only problem is WR is hit or miss (look at Detroits top 5 picks before Megatron) and Wallace is a sure-fire receiver. But I'd rather find our own. With that said, RB is not a premium position and can be replaced easier than OL (which can't be found outside of 2nd if not 3rd round)

Mark, yes I think those two teams will come large for Long. Only thing I'd say is, it's no the agent who has the final say but the player. I suspect Long likes it here, I still believe he'll end up in the HOF (yeah I don't think he's done, by any means....how's that!) and I suspect he'd like to go in as a Dolphin. First overall pick, team that gave him his chance...my guess is it would be his preference to play here. That's if he believes in Philbin and Ireland. Maybe he takes less money. Maybe he agrees to play RT at some point. I guess until we actually here from Jake nobody knows.

Craig,

The hard truth is that we haven't lost a step with Jonathan Martin at LT. The guy looked bad on one play since he's moved to LT when he allowed a sack against Aldon Smith who is clearly one the best pass rushers (maybe the best) in the NFL.

No dumb false starts or any penalties that I recall either.

MiamiD20,

Good points.

Mark, what do you make of this latest Blue Jays trade? Great that the Jays are going for it this year but I'm kind of pissed the two kids they are giving up. Obviously they see a window here with the Yankees and Red Sox down but boy it's an awful lot to give up!

"Pouncey and Long have been good draft picks but that is two out of how many offensive lineman taken by the Dolphins early in the draft and in free-agency.I hope Ireland has learned from all this but I sincerely doubt it,hes a scout first and if a highly rated offensive lineman is available he take him over a WR or TE which is a more needed position for the Dolphins."

King,

And what about Jonathan Martin???

Obviously I'm crushed.
I'm so beside myself I just can't function.

Congrats Tanne and the Phins on win yesterday.

10 years from now in the booth Henne will retell the story of Blackmon's touchdown coming off the board because the tackle never reported eligible. Everyone in the booth will laugh. And we'll laugh also and wonder how we were able to squander the last 10 years of our lives so easily.

WHDPs,

The kid looked good yesterday. No question. Not the biggest test but never mind. My beef with this has nothing to do with Martin but rather the giving away of a guy like Long and now having to find another tackle in the draft or FA. To me if we want playmakers we have to stop giving assets away. I'm not a fan of drafting a tackle first three rounds, with the number of holes we still have to fill. Say good bye to a WR, CB, TE or S. To me, those should be priorities.

Yeah, drafting a WR is risky. Think thats why they really haven't drafted one too high recently.

Though team needs dictate a WR or CB, possibly OL (T/G) with the first pick. Also, wouldn't mind a safety.

The biggest problem with R.Bush is he still thinks he's playing in the PAC-12 at USC. He was always looking for the edge to get outside the Din College and at this point can't help himself. Last Yr. and at certain points you see the one cut back he can be hitting the hole and at other times your left terribly frustrated by the dancing at the line.

On the flip side and in his defense out Guards are so slow he's sometimes caught up behind the line waiting for his blocks to develope and isn't the patient F.Gore who waits for it to develope or hits the hole with power because Reggie isn't that type of RB either.

A major reason why Bush hasn't got 20 carries a game a lot is because he has so many negative runs that put this team into obvious passing situations. GOing hard on one cut between teh tackles lends itself to getting more oportunities later in the game. For example, a lot more elikely to run on 2nd and 6 instead of 2nd and 12.

So Reggie, if you want more carries, stop with the ridiculous prancing.

Giving guys like Satele away (a second round draft pick) for a 6th are the kind of moves this franchise has made for too long. When BB gives picks away it's a 4th round pick for a guy like Moss and he contributes right away.

Pat White's another example. John Beck....the list goes on.

Mark,

I almost wonder if the team shouldn't have been starting with Thomas. A few power runs into the defence and maybe you get guys to back off a little. Then when you bring in Bush, he's so much quicker and elusive. Just a thought but I'd be more inclined to start with the power back for a couple of series.

I know guys are saying that Thomas should be gone next year. Again, not a fan of this idea. ANOTHER second round pick giving away for nothing at the age of 25. What does it cost to have him on the team next year? Nothing, other than a roster spot.

As much as people still wanna hate on D. Thomas, I still think this guy has a lot of talent.

I would NOT give up on him.

"The kid looked good yesterday. No question. Not the biggest test but never mind. My beef with this has nothing to do with Martin but rather the giving away of a guy like Long and now having to find another tackle in the draft or FA. To me if we want playmakers we have to stop giving assets away. I'm not a fan of drafting a tackle first three rounds, with the number of holes we still have to fill. Say good bye to a WR, CB, TE or S. To me, those should be priorities."

Craig,

But Martin is a LT. Yes the coaching staff converted him to play RT but he's better on the left side. He struggled at times on the right side but he seems very natural on the left side.

If we let Long walk I don't think that means we have to draft a RT in the first three rounds. In fact aside from some penalties Garner has played well. I've always liked Garner & if he can stay healthy why can't he be the starter???

BTW--As for the first three rounds if Starks & McDaniel are not re-signed we're going to have to draft a DT. In fact looking at this draft (not a lot of premier WR's or CB's) it wouldn't surprise me if we used our first round pick on a DT.

Craig, you know I love Jake but I'm not holding my breath for him providing any type of home town discount. Last time I checked, he has a U of M logo tattooed on his arm but no Dolphin anywhere.

And Bush, he got $5M when he was unproven as an every down back, what makes anyone think he will sign for less now that he has shown he can be a majore ball carrier???

Improve the o-line and most importantly, add SPEED to the offense and Tannehill will thrive...We're way too SLOW on offense...We need it more than anything...WRs and TEs mostly...The type of offense Philbin runs also requires athletic offensive linemen, so guys like Incognito and Jerry might be gone by next year...And yes, Satele would of been nice in this offense...I remember a game in Denver where Satele ran all the way downfield to block a DB...He hammered him so hard I thought he killed him...That was another mistake by our genius future Hall of Famer Bill Parcells...And what about Donald Thomas? He's ranked one of the best guards in the NFL, with NE of course...So many mistakes by this front office it's not even funny...Let's not even talk about Jake Grove...

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