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Matt Moore at a crossroads this offseason

Look around the NFL games this weekend and you'll see teams that need quarterbacks or intend to go to camp next year with a competition to see who starts at quarterback.

This list is long:

Jacksonville, Philadelphia, Arizona, Kansas City, probably Buffalo, maybe Minnesota and Cleveland.

And that brings me to Dolphins backup quarterback Matt Moore. He will likely have a decision to make this offseason because he is unsigned and because he still believes he can start in the NFL and because that won't be in Miami and because it might be some place else.

"Do I think I can play in this league? Yeah," Moore said Thursday. "Whether it's here or somewhere else, you need to be given that shot and it's hard to look at other places and put yourself in other people's shoes. Situations are what they are everywhere. There's different situations and issues everywhere. I don't worry about what's going on right now."

Right now all Dolphins players have been warned about thinking ahead to the offseason. I wrote a day or so ago that coach Joe Philbin told players to concentrate on the Patriots and nothing else. It's the reason cornerback Sean Smith and other pending free agents have hesitated to talk about their upcoming free agency.

But free agency is staring all of them in the face and that includes Moore, who will not get a shot to win the job in Miami next year but might elsewhere. And that possible chance to compete elsewhere seems appealing to him.

"I'm just looking for an opportunity," he said. "I'd love to be a starter. But we'll figure all that out in the offseason."

Don't get Moore wrong. He's a great teammate and he proved in the Jets game this year that he can come off the bench and play at a high level and lead his team to victory. So he can be a fine backup and re-sign with the Dolphins to do that if he wishes.

That's not a bad gig.

"I'm not unhappy doing that," he said. "But as a player and a competitor I'd love the chance to start somewhere. I think I can. I think I'm capable. Playing and the right situation is something you definitely have to look for."

Obviously someone is going to have to first offer the chance. And so Moore will hit free agency hoping for that chance. That's the priority. Even then, he's going to have to weigh location and situation because he has a family now and his next contract will likely permanently seal him as either a guy with a chance to start or a backup.

And if someone makes the offer, Moore is gone and the Dolphins will be searching for a backup QB. Otherwise, Moore will be offered a contract to be Miami's backup.

"I need to figure all that out in the offseason," he said. "Maybe it doesn't happen and I might be here."

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Wo Wo slow down Mark best team in the NFC. I think th 49ers and Packers have something to say about that. Let see how the kid does when the real bright playoff lights shine on him

Guys, I think the Dolphins not making the playoffs this year is the best thing for this team long term. I look back at 2008 and while it was a dream season it cost us long term. Instead of making smart picks and hitting on as many as possible, this franchise got dumb, thinking it was only one or two players away. The Pat White pick. The Patrick Turner pick.

I believe with a good draft and a good offseason we're a playoff team next year. A lot depends on our FAs but I believe if we don't lose too many and don't overspend we're be playing in January next year.

One caveat....I DO NOT under any circumstances want Mike Wallace or Bowe at $8-9 million a season. Comical to hear guys say that's the way to go!! Have we learned nothing from the Brandon Marshall experiment? Sure, let's do that all over again. Attitude aside, having Marshall in the lineup resulted in no more wins than when he was here. It'll be the same with Wallace and Bowe. 7 wins for the Steelers this year and 2 for the Chiefs. Not worth investing that kind of money in WRs. Do we need to get better there? ABSOLUTELY. Add in the draft and let's see if we can get a guy like Jennings for cheap.

Sparano is the worst coach ever, at least Philbin can string together a cohesive thought. Sparano fav word was "ok"

I agree with you DC too. But look at Philbin's short history here even after one year. He looks forward - not back. He projected that Tannehill would be the better guy going forward even though large factions of the fanbase wanted Moore to start - and a season later - nobody (with any intelligence) disagrees with that decision now. he got better team results and invested towards the future by letting Tannehill learn on the job.

So if I think he has the guts to do this with the starter role, he would most definitely do it with the backup role. Moore is not his guy and not a fit in the WCO. Breeding Qbs is the Green bay way going back to Ron Wolf. Tannehill is the first here in Miami. Devlin will be the 2nd.

Craig, that guy is a chump. I know we aren't in the spotlight of the NFL and it seems most people in South Florida don't care or will pizz on something that isn't but I know this team played hard all year (except maybe the Tenn game) and despite being shorthanded in the talent area in some areas stayed in the playoff hunt until week 16. If things went our way a bit more - we would've been in the playoffs.

I appreciate the effort the guys put forward and usually when they made mistakes - it was mistakes made out of effort.

And to say this team doesn't have any good or star players is just absurd. having 7 pro bowl or cusp of the pro bowl players says otherwise. With experience comes sonsitency and I know this team is coming...

Free Matt Moore from this cespool franchise and he'll show he's a top 8 NFL QB.

I think all the guys that continually bash Ireland need to take a good hard look at who our HC was the last four years. What players did he develop while he was here? Maybe Jones? Maybe Soliai? Bess? Hartline? Anyone else? Are we giving him credit for developing Wake?

What about the young guys? Where was the improvement from those guys? Where was the coaching staff that worked with Smith and Davis. Where I disagree with people that love to bask Ireland, Ireland's just the GM. He's the guy that drafts these kids. The coaches are the ones that are supposed to DEVELOP the players. There are VERY few guys who simply walk into the NFL and become stars. That's the vast minority. At some point the coaching staff needs to take over and develop these guys. Everyone talks about a guy like Jimmy Graham, as if he just walked into the NFL and became a star. He wasn't. He was a project. Hence the 3rd or 4th round pick. Hardly contributed in the beginning. But his second year he was a big contributor. Where were those guys on this team under Sparano? The hope is that guys like Matthews, Egnew and Miller can develop under Philbin.

He has done a great job with the Phins so from a selfish standpoint I would love for him to come back with a long term contract but I don't see that happening because he is much better than many of the starters on other teams. He will be a starter next season somewhere....

Matt Moore has been a real positive signing for the Fish. I wish him the best wherever that may be. I actually like him as our backup but not sure if he likes it. The one thing I'm ticked about is we're going to wind up letting Moore, Long, etc walk next year and get NOTHING in return for them.

Mark @ 9:42,

Check out my post on Devlin/Moore.

I believe Moore is as good as gone. I also stated that I believe a "Faction" among the Coaches(Philbin/Sherman-lol)are very high on Devlin.

I think they would keep Moore if he signed real reasonably. He's been a team player through and through. Did his job excellently by coming off the bench and demolishing the AFC East Rival Jets.

Ultimately though, I believe they prefer Devlin and Moore will prefer to move on. Moore was the odds on favorite coming into camp and coming off a Team MVP the year prior. It didn't matter, they demoted Moore without a 2nd thought and even brought in another vet in addition to their Boy Wonder Rookie.

So, I think Philbin would go another year with Moore as the back up, just because of the excellent job and team mentality he showed. But it would really be an odd fit for both parties.

Moore will probably get better money and opportunity elsewhere. Philbin and Sherman will probably prefer to develop Devlin and draft a late round "Sleeper/Steal".

Regardless, I see either scenario as win/win and this Team being much improved.

Mark in Toronto,

Really good posts at 10:20 and 10:25am.

Tony Sparano....yet ANOTHER way that Bill Parcells f8cked the Miami Dolphins. It's there clear as day...

Clue, I didn't say the Seahawks are running away as the best team in the NFC but right now, if I were to bet money, it would be on them. Probably get some good odds though.

Their passing offense isn't great but everywhere else they are stacked and deep. 2nd in rushing offense, 4th in defense, 5th in pass defense, 11th in run defense, 6th in turnover differential, 10th in red zone offense, 4th in red zone defense. Since they played us, they've had their hair on fire.

I think the top 5 teams in the NFL go like this:

Houston
New England
Seattle
Denver
Green Bay

If it isn't Seattle, it will be Green bay from the NFC - I think in a lot of ways this team is even better than last years team.

As far as Moore goes, I'd scratch Minnesota, Cleveland and Buffalo off of the teams that Moore might play for next year. Minnesota has a chance to go to the playoffs with Ponder and while he's not great, the playoffs are what it's all about. This is year two for them with him. Forget it! Cleveland? They need to give Weedon more time. He's shown flashes this year. You don't abandon that after year one, new regime or not. I think Buffalo will get out from under Fitzpatrick's contract but does anyone think Moore's the answer in Buffalo? I don't and I'm a Matt Moore fan. So we're down to Arizona, Jacksonville, Philly and my darkhorse team....NYJ. I think the Jets will figure out a way to get out from under Sanchez's contract and I see him playing in Arizona next year. Jets may be inclinced to take a run at Barkley or a guy like Landry Jones in the third round. I see Moore as a day one starter in NYJ. KC is drafting a QB (likely Geno Smith). Other team that might look at Moore is Philly. But I think they'll let Foles start. Moore would be his insurance policy. So would Moore look at that as a better situation than Miami? Maybe. He's be smart to come back to Miami at 2 years and something like $2 mil a year. Injuries happen and so do sophmore slumps. We'll see if he's smart or not.

Yeah, Mark. Big surprise that an NFL decision advantages the Pats! LOL

I like Moore for Arizona with Fitz. He has played behind a woeful line in Miami and done well with a bona fide #1 receiver; would open up that offense. Long could be a good fit, too, depending on price. But unless their running back situation has changed recently, I like Reggie Bush to move there if the Dolphins are not serious.

To all the idiots comparing Tannehill to Henne, consider this:

Henne sat for a year under Pennington - a guy who is as friendly as it comes to being a mentor. Tannehill came right in as a rookie as started.

Henne had 4 years playing QB at Michigan. Tannehill started one full season, and over a half of another college season. For a total of 19 games.

Tannehill doesn't checkdown every play, and make reasonably good decisions. Tannehill has WAY better footwork then Henne. Tannehill has worse receivers than both Moore and Henne had. Henne started at QB after the system had been installed for a year and players were acclimated to it.

So ... please stop... Tannehill is having an ok rookie season. I was one of the people who though the Wildcat actually hurt Henne's development - but I see more upside with Tannehill than Henne ever had. Tannehill has made rookie mistakes.. Henne seemed to make the same mistakes over and over and over.

Lets wait a couple years before you compare Tannehill to anyone.

Its true. Tannehill wouldnt start for his college team this year. HAHA

Other veteran QBs that I think Moore will have to compete with next year for playing time:

Vick
Fitzpatrick
Sanchez
Flynn (I believe Seattle will trade him to a QB needy team).
Possibly Cassel


It's a slim market for Matt Moore.

If Moore leaves, I think Fitz would work as a back-up (cheap money) or even Kevin Kolb (again cheap money). I'd sign one of these guys and Devlin beats them out in camp then so be it. I'd also draft a QB in the 6th or 7th round and develop him, as they do in GB all the time.

Odin, I see it that way too. The one thing I know that may or may not work in Moore's favour is the respect he has in the locker room. The team likes him. respects him. Philbin does appreciate that. In some organizations, Moore could become as I penned him earlier thie year - our Frank Reich (or for our younger bloggers Charlie Batch). A guy who could have a ten year backup job which in the NFL these days banks you about $30M with minimal impact on your body and gives you a chance to establish roots with your family in the community. But I don't think that's our franchise's way now. The QBs will be a conveyor belt and occasionally it will give us a chance to turn undrafted free agents or lower picks into higher picks with some investment. Philly and Green Bay way ...

Mark,

I think Denver is the team to beat right now in the NFL. Pains me to say that but that's how I feel. Team is energized under Manning and the defence is playing great. If the games in Denver they beat NE. Houston wouldn't be my top team right now. I think they are primed to beaten....AGAIN.

I'd also have SF in my top 5. GB I believe is the team to beat right now in the NFC but it's close with SF. I wouldn't write them off yet. If Justin Smith is done for the year, that's a HUGE loss.

I think what will hurt Seattle is if they have to play on the road throughout the playoffs. I don't like their chances nearly as much.

haha, bill, Arizona the Dolphins of the desert. You're eright, fits all around.

Falcons are the best team right now.

Craig, Kris did ask me to declare today:
IRELAND FAN APPRECIATION DAY!

So everyone on today's blog must post ONE GOOD THING Ireland did during his tenure in Miami.

I've got 2: drafting Tannehill in the 1st round (whether or not he's ultimately the guy isn't the point. Point is he did what no other genius thought to do since Dan Marino decades ago).

And NOT bringing in Kyle Orton for a big contract last year.

VERY GOOD DECISIONS JEFF IRELAND, I THANK YOU!!!

Craig, I can see your logic behind Denver. And you're obviously right about Manning. it's the reason why I wanted him as our QB target after Moore boned us out of RG3. That could've been us although it woudl've been fun watching Manning punk Marshall every week when he decided to get out of line.

Unfortunately Manning didn't want Miami so they moved on wisely to the next best option at the time which was Tannehill.

Haha, DC, that's funny.

I like your points.

What about finding Cameron Wake for the big price of $1M signing bonus. Is that not the greatest free agent signing in Miami Dolphins history???

I really like Moore and wish he had started this year. He was and is better then Tannehill. How many more TD's would the Dolphins have with Moore connecting on those wide open receivers as opposed to Tannehill missing all of them?

Nat,
Theres a reason Manziel was a "red shirt" freshman.

People forget about the pre-season. Moore didn't beat out Garrard or Tannehill in the preseason. That's why Moore is the backup.

I like the guy - but I feel the guy hit his ceiling. He's not bad, he's not great. He can win some games, and is a good leader - but he's a known commodity.

I don't second guess the decision to start Tannhill one bit - if anything it's accelerated his growth and next year we get to see if he's going to be just another guy or if he can get this team to the playoffs.

DC,

Knowing when to move on from Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams and trading a 5th for Reggie Bush, when everyone considering him nothing more than a 3rd down back. The Dolphins got every ounce out of Brown and Williams, depsite the pleas from many on here that they should resign one or both of them.

Just ANOTHER thing this fanbase was wrong about, that you'll never read on here.

I also remember all the outrage when we drafted Pouncey at 15. 'He'll never be able to play C in the NFL', we heard and 'He'll never be as good as his brother'. 'Wasted pick'.

Where did all those guys go?

Jeff,
which games are you eluding to that Tannehill missed those "wide open" receivers? Besides the NE game, where he over threw the one and the other had already been thrown when Hartline decided to break off the called rout.. what other games are you referring to?

My favorite Ireland deal: Trading Vontae & Brandon...locker room cancer cells looking to divide the team.

One other team that I think will be in play for Moore.....the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Talk to any Steeler fan and they'll tell you that they HAVE to have a capable back-up should Big Ben go down again. Leftwich was horrible the one game I saw him play and Batch is a 100 years old (although he's been capable).

To me, Moore's decision might come down to, does he feel he has a better chance to win a championship in Pittsburgh or Miami in the next five years.

NHFINSFAN,

I think Vontae's grandma played better for the Colts this year than Vontae did.

Funny to hear people still call him 'one of the best corners in the league'.....LOL. In what world?

Mark/Craig,

Those were also very good moves. Yes, I'd have to say Cameron Wake was the greatest FA signing in the history of the team.

And seeing Brown in San Diego does NOT make me weep for his return ever.

My favorite Ireland move was not over paying for another back up in Flynn, whom is sitting in Seattle right now getting paid $9 million a year lol

The other would be the Vonte trade as we have made out better on it.. Irsay does have a playoff team but a DB that has been hurt all year with us getting another 2nd and a 6th i think .

Looks like Rex Ryan has given his owner an ultimatum, "Either fire me or give me the money and power to make the changes I want".

Sounds like the big galoot wants out of New York to me. Isn't he the one who brought Sparano to town? Didn't he stick up for Schottenheimer's son when he was there?

Maybe he needs to stick to the defence and let other people be HCs. Nothing like making a mess and leaving someone else to clean it up. Reminds me of Parcless and the job he did in Miami.

Craig, i was one of the guys that didn't like the Puncey pick not because I didn't think he could play, I just didn't value the position. I liked Solder or Kerrigan in that spot if it wasn't going to be the blog's infamous Ryan Mallett.

But in hindsight the pick worked exactly to Ireland's expectations.

What about finding a fine safety in Rashad Jones with a 5th round pick. Nice move.

Going back to Moore for a second, I change my mind about Buffalo. I believe Buffalo will draft a QB early but I don't see anyone who'll be a day one starter. Moore may see Buffalo as a chance to start for a year or two until the kid grows and is ready. Chan Gailey will be gone and likely Wannstedt and the other coaches too. I'll be in the minority on this one but with the talent level on Buffalo they should be better than what they are. I had them as a possible playoff team this year and they weren't even close.

Moore in Buffalo is a definite possibility.

Could well be that Buffalo and Miami end up having each other's QB on the team this year. Fitz's will be ripped by many on here but he is 19th in the league in passer rating and I see him as a good backup to work behind Tannehill.

I like Devlin but I wouldn't be comfortable that he can lead us to the playoffs YET if Tannehill was to go for a long period of time.

Craig, if people want to talk bad draft picks, can we start talking marcel Dareus??? The guy was the third pick in the draft and Buffalo has been godawful stopping the run since. 32nd in run defense with a DT picked 3rd overall is just inexcusable. And it's not like the guy playing next to him is bad either in Kyle Williams. This was a colossal f-up with guys like AJ Green, patrick peterson, Julio Jones, and Aldon Smith waiting with at the next four picks. Oooof!

Interesting to see what happens in Carolina. Ron Rivera has the Panthers playing well, having won 4 of their last 5. Team has a chance to finish the season at 7-9 with a win Sunday against NO. New GM coming in.....is he going to want his new guy? Do they rip everything up and start all over again?

To the guys who wanted Ireland gone, this is what very often happens when a new GM comes in. Be interesting to watch and see what happens.

Craig, neither would Fitz. I would be just as happy tanking if Tannehill got hurt with Devlin starting than handing things over to Fiz. HE STINKS!

Craig, I'd ditch Rivera. Looks like the Sparano of the NFC.

One of the better backup QB's in the league & a class act. Did an outstanding job for us last year & would be nice to know if Tannehill got dinged we had someone competent to back him up.

I believe the Dolphins will make Moore an offer but I suspect some QB starved team will outbid us. Best case scenario is that he likes the Miami area & doesn't want to move.

..I posed this question last night. When does Ireland start to get credit for the personel moves? You can't say he found Wake, then say it was Parcells who wanted BM, or who gave Dansby that outrageous contract. To be fair..I don't know how much input Ireland had in players, if any.(I'm sure he had some)..

IMO Ireland, like young players cannot be truley judged until after September 2010. So any player taken, or signed before then has PArcells stamp on him..good and bad.

Mark,

We don't agree on Fitz. Not saying he's great but put him in a new environment without the pressures of a big contract and I think he does the job. To me he's a close substitute for Moore, who I know you're not that fond of.

Like I said, I like Devlin but I don't see him as someone who the team rallies around YET. Time will tell if he's that guy a year from now.

DD, I give Ireland credit and blame in some capacity at least for everything since 2008.

If the team isn't improved after next year - he's out ..

Craig, I don't have any time for the Chad Henne's or Fitz's or Matt Moore's or any players of that ilk that keep the franchise in neutral. Neutral sucks!

Either thrive with young high ceiling players or tank to load up on new high ceiling players. be Indianaplois - either be a strong playoff team or be one of the biggest disgraces in the sport and load up. Neutral is what we've been for too long and it's made the Dolphins insignificant. We've finally appear to have turned the corner there and I want to leave it far back in the rear view mirror.

Mark @11:34am,

I think that's a fair comment. Depending on who else is out there, I'd be OK with that. I step back next year should and likely would be a death sentence for Ireland, despite the nice collection of talent I'm starting to see on this team.


..I posed this question last night. When does Ireland start to get credit for the personel moves? You can't say he found Wake, then say it was Parcells who wanted BM, or who gave Dansby that outrageous contract.

Posted by: DarrylDunphy | December 28, 2012 at 11:32 AM


Darryl,

Apparently that is allowed here.

Apparently


...Mark. That is fine if that is your opinion. I would like to know the facts(I understand that we probably may never know)how involved was Ireland during Parcells term as VP of football operations. Which really means general manager. Like I said I'm sure Ireland had input on players. I just think it was Parcells who had the final say. IMO, Ireland was just an assistant to Parcells, the guy who picked up his dry cleaning and donuts every morning.

"He's a great teammate and he proved in the Jets game this year that he can come off the bench and play at a high level and lead his team to victory."

This has got to stop. Are we so used to losing that we now are classifying 130 yards passing and ONE TD as a game played at a "high level"?

Are you kidding with this? Is Matt Moore a f*&^ing hypnotist or something? Why is it that people seem to have a brain lapse when discussing this QB. HE ACCOUNTED FOR EXACTLY 3.5 POINTS IN A 30-9 WIN!!!!!!

The receiver who caught the TD gets the other 3.5.

That's a high level performance now in Miami? WTF? Yes he's a great guy, wonderful, that gets us nothing. Can we start demanding more from our team please? Any time now thanks.

Phins 78.....

Didn't Tanne JUST have a game were he thew for 130 yards.....

just saying.....

Maybe we watched Sparano screw up draft picks with poor coaching. Sure seems that way with the offensive mess in New York. So maybe Ireland isn't to blame for everything.
two good things he has done, getting Pouncey, dumping VD on to Indy, ridding us of Marshall, keeping Soliai, handling the cap last year to provide the team with an opportunity to start fresh this year.
So I take back all of the fire Ireland crazy crap that I have ever said. I will lay it on the lame duck TS and his Mr Isskubbbibble talk.

DC.....

I'll play along.....

I am GRATEFUL to Ireland for having ONE (1) PRO BOWL caliber starter on this ROSTER after 5 years.....

Congrats to him....

i'm gonna puke now.....

DD, Craig,

We will never know for sure what exactly happened in 08 and 09. The waters are murky. But regardless between 10-11-12-13 when he clearly is the lead guy, if there is no significant improvement, it's sufficient time for him to be assessed on his own merits and if we don't become relevant beyond the hardcroe NFL fans .. it's time to try something else. ... probably somebody Philbin is comfortable with from the GB tree I imagine.

..Craig. You can scream doomsday if a new GM comes in, You can sing hallelujah. Put it this way. Other teams that were just as bad as us have turned the tables with new GM's in the amount of time it has taken Ireland to "find some talent".

Now, I don't think that Ireland is going anywhere. nor should he. I could be a glutton for punishment, and it could be Lucy pulling the ball out from Charlie Browns foot all over. Eventually given enough tries. Ireland will get it right. To be fair...IMo ireland did not become the decision maker until September of 2010.so he really only has 2 drafts under his belt.

Phins, agree with you 100%. Moore did nothing special in that game and Kris - yes Tannehill did only have 130 yards passing. But he did use his legs for another 50 and he did lead the team on three TD drives. So it was a much more effective start. Agree?

Craig M.....

does Ireland have compromising photos of you somewhere.....

I mean seriously.....

by DEFAULT I have to pull for the guy....but on more than ONE occasion this year you have questioned and BLAMED the ROOKIE HC....but 5 YEARS later....Ireland still sits on his pedestal...WTH....I don't get it.....

"Either thrive with young high ceiling players or tank to load up on new high ceiling players. be Indianaplois - either be a strong playoff team or be one of the biggest disgraces in the sport and load up. Neutral is what we've been for too long and it's made the Dolphins insignificant. We've finally appear to have turned the corner there and I want to leave it far back in the rear view mirror."

Mark,

Agreed. We made our decision with Tannehill & now the organization needs to do everything they can to make him successful. Our running game needs to be more consistent & we need receivers (WR's & TE's) who can stretch the field.

Sometimes teams are built before the QB is drafted like the Ravens when they took Flacco or the Seahawks when they took Wilson or the Niners with Kaepernick. That's just not the case with Tannehill.

Agree Mark....

but I have looked @ the stats....Tanne has 8 games of under 200 yards or less.....

a stat that MUST NOT be ignored........

would you agree on that......

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