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Matt Moore at a crossroads this offseason

Look around the NFL games this weekend and you'll see teams that need quarterbacks or intend to go to camp next year with a competition to see who starts at quarterback.

This list is long:

Jacksonville, Philadelphia, Arizona, Kansas City, probably Buffalo, maybe Minnesota and Cleveland.

And that brings me to Dolphins backup quarterback Matt Moore. He will likely have a decision to make this offseason because he is unsigned and because he still believes he can start in the NFL and because that won't be in Miami and because it might be some place else.

"Do I think I can play in this league? Yeah," Moore said Thursday. "Whether it's here or somewhere else, you need to be given that shot and it's hard to look at other places and put yourself in other people's shoes. Situations are what they are everywhere. There's different situations and issues everywhere. I don't worry about what's going on right now."

Right now all Dolphins players have been warned about thinking ahead to the offseason. I wrote a day or so ago that coach Joe Philbin told players to concentrate on the Patriots and nothing else. It's the reason cornerback Sean Smith and other pending free agents have hesitated to talk about their upcoming free agency.

But free agency is staring all of them in the face and that includes Moore, who will not get a shot to win the job in Miami next year but might elsewhere. And that possible chance to compete elsewhere seems appealing to him.

"I'm just looking for an opportunity," he said. "I'd love to be a starter. But we'll figure all that out in the offseason."

Don't get Moore wrong. He's a great teammate and he proved in the Jets game this year that he can come off the bench and play at a high level and lead his team to victory. So he can be a fine backup and re-sign with the Dolphins to do that if he wishes.

That's not a bad gig.

"I'm not unhappy doing that," he said. "But as a player and a competitor I'd love the chance to start somewhere. I think I can. I think I'm capable. Playing and the right situation is something you definitely have to look for."

Obviously someone is going to have to first offer the chance. And so Moore will hit free agency hoping for that chance. That's the priority. Even then, he's going to have to weigh location and situation because he has a family now and his next contract will likely permanently seal him as either a guy with a chance to start or a backup.

And if someone makes the offer, Moore is gone and the Dolphins will be searching for a backup QB. Otherwise, Moore will be offered a contract to be Miami's backup.

"I need to figure all that out in the offseason," he said. "Maybe it doesn't happen and I might be here."

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..I have no issue with Giving Ireland some props. Tis' the season.

Thank You Jeff Ireland for Picking Ryan Tannehill. I thought he was a bum. He may be. But at least you took a shot, and recognized without a franchise quarterback it is pointless to start the season.

2...Thank you for doing all the work you do for Autism. This is much more important then anything you will do as a football man. Seriously, Thank you. As a uncle of a child with Autism. I know exactly the challenges of raising a child with Autism. Again, thank you.

Mark,

Not a fan of the approach you are suggesting. I'd fire a GM who doesn't take the steps to ensure that if your starter goes down you don't have a backup plan. It's why Tannebaum will likely get the axe in New York. They bring in Tebow to be the backup and then never play him, despite Sanchez struggling. Think this was the plan in New York? Disasterous! Polian in Indy. People can say it was stroke of genius to tank the season and get the best young QB since Manning. That's fine. But that's the stuff that gets people fired.

I'm in the risk business. I prepare my clients for 'worst case scenario' situations. If I didn't I'd be letting an awful lot of people down and leaving them broke. If that were Ireland's plan, that it's boom or bust, I'd fire him on the spot. It's why the Steelers missed the playoffs this year. The playoffs should be the goal EVERY year. Taking the steps to protect 'worst case scenario' is one of the things that may prevent a GM from losing his job.

DRAFT PICKS....

Why ISN'T the TEAM BUILT....its been 5 YEARS.....

How about passing on Jason Pierre Paul or Earl Thomas to trade down for Odrick and Misi?

Oh wait, good things. Oh I got it!

I love that he told a fan to go f&*k himself! Loved it.

Team wise though I would have to say Pouncey and Lamar Miller were steals.

Kris,

Again I don't get the HATE for Ireland. My guess is you're still pissed he didn't pick Mallett. I just don't get your thinking....sorry.

Not once have I EVER said 'fire Philbin'. You'll have to show me where I said that. But I have been critical off some of his personnel choices. I think we all have.

I'm happy to have him as our HC. He's done a good job this year and deserves credit under difficult situations.

Kris,

Respectfully, you strike me as a guy who makes up his mind on someone and there's no room to change that opinion. That can be a good thing and a bad thing.

Tell me if I've got you right.

Kris Tannehill has a little over 2 years experience at the position where Moore has been playing it for 11 years, for multiple teams, and has seen multiple defensive systems.

So in 9 years if Tannehill throws a 130 yard game for 1 TD and someone deems that as a "high level performance" , look me up. I'll be easy to find, I'll be the guy very loudly repeating that same exact post.

The playoffs should be the goal EVERY year. Taking the steps to protect 'worst case scenario' is one of the things that may prevent a GM from losing his job.

Posted by: Craig M | December 28, 2012 at 11:59 AM
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Guys, I think the Dolphins not making the playoffs this year is the best thing for this team long term.

Posted by: Craig M | December 28, 2012 at 10:19 AM
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Craig M.....

You can UNDERSTAND how these TWO post by YOU are a COMPLETE CONTRADICTION to each other...right??????

Phins 78....@ 12:05....lol......

"Didn't Tanne JUST have a game were he thew for 130 yards....."

Also which game was this? I want to look up how many articles were written calling that a high level performance.

Kris, I definitely agree that Tannehill is not a finished product and must become more prolific. Some of that will come in adding more talent (I mean doesn anyone watch an Atlanta Falcons game? Those receivers seem to be always running three to five yards open) but most of that will have to come from Tannehill himself. However, I'm very encouraged by the first step in that process and that is protecting the football and making smart decisions. He had a rough patch in the middle but is finishing strong in that area. He faced two of the top takeaway teams in NE and SF and he gave them bupkus in gifts. Followed that up with extremely efficient games against weak opponents in Jax and Buff. The kid is playing his best ball of the year at the end and that's encouraging. He just needs to do it more often.

Mark,

I agree with you @ 11:48, that is a fair assessment.

Has there ever been a GM who seems to have so much cover regarding "his" decisions?

First, he's got the "Parcell's ran the show" as cover for bad decisions.

Then he's got the "Sporano was such a terrible coach" as a cover.

This year, regarding Egnew in the third round, we even hear the "I'm sure Philbin was on board with the pick" as a cover for Ireland.

Don't get me wrong, I think he has made some good decisions. I think Tannehill will develop into the quarterback we have needed for so many years. We have a pretty good foundation, just have to see what this FA and draft bring to us.

"by DEFAULT I have to pull for the guy....but on more than ONE occasion this year you have questioned and BLAMED the ROOKIE HC....but 5 YEARS later....Ireland still sits on his pedestal...WTH....I don't get it..."

Craig I have to agree with Kris on this point here. You do seem to be much more critical of Philbin than Ireland. And it's funny because Philbin seems to have already made this team better despite the fact he is a rookie head coach with a severely limited roster in terms of play makers.


Craig M....

You couldn't be me wrong.....

I'm the guy who says "take the information in...let it swirl around a bit...and the decide" (Chris Rock) (talking about the ridiculousness of repubs and dems)

My opinion has been changed or swayed MANY times on this blog....

I defended Henne....until I saw he was INDEFENSIBLE (sucked).....

I was "on the fence" with Ireland until this year.....when I saw that Philbin has NOTHING to work with.....

Philbin took this roster as far as he could...and once the tape was out (thanks to Jeff Fisher).....we were exposed as a talentless team that can't run the ball....and things went down hill quickly......

Philbin has preformed a miracle with this roster....water to WINE.....

Craig @ 11:59. That is the right approcach in the insurance business and I'm glad you take care of people but in football let's face it. If your QB goes down, it's over. This isn't 1972 where you can hide Earl Morral on your roster. There are no 3 time Pro Bowl backup qbs. And personally I think Devlin will be just as good as Moore as early as next year. I'm saying this on hunch and based on Philbin's apprent attitude toward the guy. That to me is a major indication that he will be just fine with Devlin back there.

..I have no issue with Giving Ireland some props. Tis' the season.

Thank You Jeff Ireland for Picking Ryan Tannehill. I thought he was a bum. He may be. But at least you took a shot, and recognized without a franchise quarterback it is pointless to start the season.

2...Thank you for doing all the work you do for Autism. This is much more important then anything you will do as a football man. Seriously, Thank you. As a uncle of a child with Autism. I know exactly the challenges of raising a child with Autism. Again, thank you.

DD,

I also credit Ireland for drafting Tannehill. Tannehill was not the slam dunk prospect that Luck was & by taking him at 8, this also meant that he had to trust Sherman who clearly knew Tannehill better than anyone. That sounds like someone who is working with his coaching staff to try & build something.

With that said I don't believe Tannehill will be a 'bum.' If the kid stays healthy I believe he's too smart & too good of an athlete not to succeed.

Phins78,

I said on here that I thought Tannehill's last game might have been his best start for the 'Phins. Are we all really in the world of 'if a guy doesn't throw for 300+ yards then he hasn't had a good game'. REALLY? How many of those games did we see from Henne that meant nothing? He comes on strong when the games out of reach but can't do it when it's needed. No thanks....been there and done that.

This isn't fantasy football. Stafford's set to go over 5,000 yards passing and is anyone saying 'he's having a great year'. Stats are for losers! No thanks.

Last game Tannhill was smart with his decisions, decisive, used his legs well and maybe most importantly didn't give the ball up. I'll take that every week from him.

Btw, this wasn't directed at you....just tired of hearing that STATS comments all the time. Stats don't tell the whole story.

Oh that was the game. Thanks for the reminder Mark. Tannehill was definitely more of a factor in that win than Moore was in the Jets win.

I love Moore as a back up. Solid as they come. He is also a great guy and a great locker room presence. But he's not a franchise QB period. That should be the end of the discussion right there.

Phins78, that 2010 draft still bothers me to this day. Ireland's biggest botch job hands down. Worse than drafting Pat White, or Jake Long, or Chad Henne. they left so many obviously good players on the table that it's heartbreaking. That draft is the major beef I have with him. Second was the 2008 first overall pick.

Kris, I have to disagree there. Rookie season stats can be completely ignored considering the high number of rookie qbs who have struggled throughout the history of the NFL as opposed to the number of rookie qbs who come in and tear it up right away.

We're ignoring the facts that he is extremely inexperienced, they had handcuffs on the kid play book wise, wouldn't allow him to use his legs, AND that he has arguably the least talented WRs and TEs in the league.

But we shouldn't ignore the fact that he struggled at times in his rookie season?

Mark @12:13pm,

Again we'll disagree on your point. Smith goes down in SF and Kaepernick comes in and doesn't miss a beat. Kid's been very impressive.

Last year in Denver, same thing with Orton. Dismal as a starting QB at 1-4 and Tebow comes in and not only takes them to the playoffs but wins a game. Very easily could have folded up the season and quit. Not a Tebow fan but he did what he did.

Same the year that Brady went down in NE. Cassell comes in and takes the team to an 11-5 season and within whisker of making the playoffs.

If Pitt had someone come in and be a competent backup then they'd be in the playoffs this year. They didn't and that's on the GM.

Posted by: Kris | December 28, 2012 at 12:07 PM

:)

(DC ignore the femininity of my smiley face please!) ;p

...Mark in Toronto@12:13

I have to disagree... I would think it is any teams interest to have the best possible backup they could. Matt Moore may be one of the top 5 backups in the league. Why shouldn't this team consider keeping him? The idea is to have strength with your numbers. we always talk about depth like it is a given. My argument has been that in most cases our starters weren't quality enough to even begin to have depth at most spots. Instead we have a roster of bodies that fill positions. To irelands credit. this has started to change at positions like quarterback, running back, and as evident by Longs absence..offensive line.

I think if possible, we keep Moore. It adds to the "depth" of this roster, and gives us a known commodity. Devlin??? How can anyone have an opinion on him? Because Philbin liked him in Hard Knocks?

Mark,

We'll see on Devlin. I'd still sign a vet like Fitz and devlin beats him out then great. I don't like the idea of leaving yourself short at the most important position in the game. Polian did it for years with Manning and Indy's lucky the year he went down Andrew Luck just happened to fall into his lap.

Guys, I agree with Craig here, the most important stat in football is turnover ratio. The top 10 teams in the league in turnover ratio have a .691 win %. Most turnovers stem from the QB position. You've got to have a smart guy there first and foremost. Stats are great and help you get on the cover of Madden and on sportscentre (sportscenter south of the 49th).

Who is the rookie of the year .. RG3 or Wilson for sure. Well, Washington is 18th in pass offense, Wilson 27th. But those two teams are also 6th and 3rd respectively in turnover ratio. So whats more important?? To be elite you have to be both, no doubt. But it's more important to keep the mistakes down. In two games Tannehill was awful at this but otherwise, pretty good....

Now if we had a defense that could force more turnovers, that would help a great deal. Going four or five weeks without a turnover doesn't cut it ...

Took this off of Don Banks comments on CNNSI this morning. I know a lot of guys have talked about Polian being the replacement for Ireland. Tell me this doesn't smell of the Parcells move all over again? And yet some guys continue to want to repeat history. I just don't get it:

'But Polian, given the late-career stage he's in, is only thought to be open to certain potential general manager openings, where the length of commitment and size of the rebuilding job is not too massive'
(talking about the Jacksonville potential opening).


Devlin??? How can anyone have an opinion on him? Because Philbin liked him in Hard Knocks?

Posted by: DarrylDunphy | December 28, 2012 at 12:23 PM

Darryl,

At this point, that's good enough for me.

Craig, i understand your point, don't agree as I like the rewards in tanking when there is reason for it.

However, not to nitpick but Big Ben was 0-2 down the stretch, not Charlie Batch and not Byron Leftwich. The backups in Pitt held the fort. I know that only proves your point further but it's unfair to blame the backups for what happened in Pitt.

Tannehill is the 2nd coming of Chad Henne. Its Deja Vu.

Craig,

I think Matt Stafford is a perfect example of what most people misunderstand about the NFL. Most people think that all you need is a very good QB (& Stafford is a very good QB) who chucks the ball down the field 40 times a game to win & it just doesn't work that way. It's a team game & w/o a running game & a w/o a defense you're not going to win a SB. When you're throwing the ball that many times that means your either always behind &/or your running game is ineffective. Sure you can win a bunch of close games & somehow sneak into the playoffs but in the end your flaws are going to get exposed.

Peyton Manning has only one SB & Marino never won one b/c their teams were flawed not b/c there were better QB's. Elway won two SB's at the end of his career b/c he had a better team not b/c he became a better QB.

Phins78.....

The handcuffs placed on Tanne were WELL DESERVED.....he earned those cuffs fair and square.....

It was Tanne SIX (6) INTS in 4 games that made Philbin and SHerman reel him in a bit.....

Mark did you watch the perfect season documentary the other night on the NFL network?

They talked about the whole Morral thing. I'm not old enough to remember that time so it was nice to see what was going on behind the scenes and how the Dolphins basically put Miami on the map. Great story about what was going on in Southern FLA at the time with riots and racism every where. I didn't know Shula was the first to force integration on the team. Made blacks room with whites so they would become a band of brothers who played as a team.

But the funny part was seeing how the players made fun of "old man Earl". They put a rocking chair at his locker with some blankets on it. Used to ask him if he needed a wheel chair to get out to the field. Posted signs at his locker that said "geriatric center". Funny stuff. And it seemed to push Earl to prove he could still play. It was the perfect storm that year, too bad I missed it!

DD, very good post @12:23pm.

Mark, also some very good points @ 12:25pm.

Signal, me too. If the head coach who proved himself worthy vouches for a guy, then I would be ok if they made that move. I even think Devlin would more than hold his own after soaking in the system for as long as he's been here. Would be much more effective than a Fitz who despite going to harvard makes a boatload of stupid decisions.

"Thank you for doing all the work you do for Autism. This is much more important then anything you will do as a football man. Seriously, Thank you. As a uncle of a child with Autism. I know exactly the challenges of raising a child with Autism. Again, thank you."

Well that certainly puts things in perspective right there.

..We Have Draft Picks...

I don't think Tanny is a bum either. My point is I don't know what he is going to be. He has shown signs he could be great, and signs he could be a mistake. 1 year surrounded with the offesnive talent, or lack of. Makes it difficult to judge.

We don't know if this regime can develop a young quarterback. We want to have hope, We want to believe. But this is the first go around for Philbin, Ireland has some experience with Henne. So that houldn't make anyone sleep well. Hopefully he learned from the mistakes of the prior regime as to how you go about grooming a young qb. My point is that Philbin has earned credibility capital among the fan base. Most believe he is the omnipotent head coach of the Miami Dolphins. That he is the right piece to the puzzle, a certain upgrade to the bum Sparano..

All of this may be true. I just say, move with caution. This blog is taking an earliy similar tone to 2008, and 2009. with both coach, and quarterback. There is nothing wrong with being optomistic. I just want to see concrete proof before I fill the piniata.

Zonk,
based on what? You cant compare the two right now.. Henne started all 4 years at Michigan, Tannehill started 1.5 yrs at Texas A&M..
Henne sat a year behind a vet that wanted Henne to learn and Tannehill should have sat behind a vet this year except one got hurt and the other lost out to both the vet brough in and a rookie...
So with the difference in experience and then pairing that with Henne sitting out one year and learning vs Tannehill being thrown in the game, you cant compare the two.. not right now atleast

Agreed on stats Craig. I'm just sick of defending Tannehill over Moore.

If people can't see why we are starting a rookie with a high ceiling over a vet who has hit his ceiling, in the first year of a complete offensive overhaul than I guess I should just give up trying to explain because they will never understand.

"Now if we had a defense that could force more turnovers, that would help a great deal. Going four or five weeks without a turnover doesn't cut it ..."

Mark,

Couldn't agree more. I believe that SF & Seattle have the right formula for winning in the NFL;

1) Play great, physical defense (Seattle does this at home)
2) Run the ball down people's throats
3) Have an O-line that can protect the QB
4) Have a QB that doesn't turn the ball over & can make the throws when he has to

WHDPs, great points @ 12:30pm. Common misconception, MORE passing yards = more wins. Not true at all.

Mark,

I don't have the Steelers games in front of me, but you can't tell me that the backups 'held their own' after watching Leftwich in that one game. He was AWFUL! Consistently underthrew recievers, sometimes but 6-8 yards. One of the worst QB performances I've ever seen. And I think it was against the Ravens, when they were there for the taking. The defence played great.

Agreed Big Ben played down the stretch but I don't believe he was healthy. Adds to my point....if they'd had a capable backup they would have made the playoffs.

Mark,

I don't want to beat a dead horse here but again, if Fitz was your backup, not making the money he was making in Buffalo he wouldn't be trying to do more than he's capable of.

Again, I would sign a guy like that, as my backup and Devlin proves he's in camp he's better, then I'm all for it. To just hand the job to Devlin would be crazy IMO.

I'mNed sorry Mando.

But Moore Is Not Even The Backup!!

You Guys Have Been Blinded By Captain Save A H O Syndrome!! Moore Looks Better Than He Is Because He Saved The Fins From Henne & Spo!! And U Moore Fans Should Be More Thankful!! To Señor Ireland!! Ireland Was The one That Brought Moore In As Insurance!! Since He Wasn't Going To Trade Or Draft A QB in The 2nd!! With Sporano Around!!

Ireland Also Brought In Another Acorn Of His Own Last Year!! Pat Devlin!! Who Has The 2011 Draft Scouting Report? Read The First Line on PD!! Ideal Qb For A WCO!! That Was Last Year!!Folks!! Ireland Was Already Making Plans To Switch Offenses!! (Pounce, Reggie) But Soprano Still had To Run His System!! (Columbo, D.Thomas, Gates)

This Year!! Ireland will Be Better Off!! He Has A Real Coach!! Giving Him Advice on What He Wants to See On The Field!! The Way It Is Suppose To Work!! GM Scouts!! Coach Decides!! If The Decision Is Real Important Ask The Owner!! I.e. Drafting A Franchise QB, Extending A Franchise LT!! Cutting Dansby!! OK, Not The Last One! That is on Ireland & Philbin!! Cap Decision!!

Plus Having The O-Line Coach We Have Doesn't Hurt Either!! I'm OK with The Fins Using a 3rd and a 4th On OG's!! With The Way This Guy Coaches They Can Be Day 1 Starters!! We Can Finally run Screens!! And Sweeps!! Even Counters!! Our O-Line Will Get To The 2nd Level On Zone Runs!! We Need Guards!!

Oh, Yeah!!

T-Hill For MVP!!

Everyone Will Agree After Sunday!!

Kris I hadn't realized they reeled him in. I thought Sherman was saying they kept it simple from day one and added more and more to his plate as the season wore on.

Sherman specifically designed plays to keep him from running because he said it could take a toll on a rookie qb getting hit that much in his first season. So I know for a fact he was limited in that teams didn't have to worry about him running like they did with Wilson and RG3 from day one. But I could have misinterpreted

Phins78, I didn't watch it but I own a DVD by NFL films. it was probably the same one that was on. I also got the book Undefeated by a SI writer on the same team for Christmas. I'm about halfway through. Great read.

The book went into great detail on the two items you just mentioned. The more important being the racial divide at the time. Such details as Cleveland not being able to bring their two black players to play in Miami in the 1960s because interracial competitions were not allowed or as you mentioned black players eating together and rooming together.

I believe Shula saw this as an outsider and thought it absurd (because remember he was actually of Hungarian descent and probably didn't think the same way as most Southerners did at the time). But he probably didn't decid to take this action because he thought it was injustice, he probably just wanted the best players and wasn't going to let some belief that didn't mean anything to him stand in the way of building a super bowl team. Still glad to hear the Dolphins and Don Shula was a pioneer in this area.

As far as Earl Morral goes - that part depressed me a bit because Earl was 38 at the time - same age I am now :((( haha

After watching Tanny in college and pro, I have no idea why Ross wanted him so badly.

Phins78,

I'm with Kris on this one. I noticed a definite 'reeling in' of Tannehill by Sherman and Philbin about halfway through the season. I get why they did it, I just think it made him look less decisive and less aggressive and those were some of the things I liked about Tannehill from Day One.

Agreed on stats Craig. I'm just sick of defending Tannehill over Moore.

If people can't see why we are starting a rookie with a high ceiling over a vet who has hit his ceiling, in the first year of a complete offensive overhaul than I guess I should just give up trying to explain because they will never understand.

Phins78,

The truth is that this team is more than a year away from legitimate playoff contention & my guess is that people will continue to bash Tannehill next year.

IMO--I believe that IF Ireland & Co. do a great job in FA & a great job in the draft--we can go 8-8 or 9-7 next season. People need to realize that we have a TON of starters who are going to hit FA & there are just too many holes to fill. Philbin did a great job of winning seven games but next season is still another rebuilding year. We were also very fortunate on the injury front this year.

Matt Moore qb skills seems to be better suited for career backup than career starter. He could very well be this free agency year's "MATT FLYNN".

The greatest contribution Matt Flynn made in 2012 was to give the SeaHawks laterrell ability to use a 3rd rd pick at qb. Russell Wilson anyone?

I dont see Matt Moore as being a highly sought after commodity at the qb position in this year's free agency. He isnt even an upgrade to what many of these teams are seeking to replace.

Anybody ever heard of this kid Thaddeus Lewis? Apparently he's starting for the Browns on Sunday? Did Weedon get knicked in the last game?

mattybfromNC you are assuming that Tannehill progresses like Henne. Even if he does thats not nearly good enough.

And to that fact. I like Shannahan, I really do. But the guy has never had an eye on player longevity. He's all about the hear and now and doesn't seem to have an eye on the future of his players. He seems to wear down his backs and now RG3 has no reigns on. Running all over the place on a whim and has already had a bad leg injury that kept him out of a game. Could be the next Mike Vick, they better keep Cousins because a QB like that needs an excellent backup.

And Pete Carroll is the biggest piece of crap coach in the NFL. I have zero respect for that man. Running down the sideline as a Jets coach with his hands around his neck in a choke signal after the Dolphins lost the game on a missed field goal. Running up scores on already beaten opponents.

And I don't trust him for one second in doing the right thing for Wilson who is a phenomenal talent. He will ruin this kid, mark my words. I know coaches like Carroll, he puts on a good front for the players but really he only cares about his image. He will use Wilson like Wanny used Ricky Williams. That is my opinion and I look forward to seeing it play out either way.

Here and now, woops.

Craig, I'm confident Devlin would beat out Fitz in training camp anyway but right now it's all hypothetical and no real way in proving things one way or the other. Fitz will be a backup somewhere next year though ..

C'mon trolls,

If Kris can say something good about Ireland, then ANYONE can. Proud of you Kris.

Phins, I'll forgive you on the smiley face since we're one game away of being .500!!!!

The Seahawks have 2 QB's better then ours.

After watching Tanny in college and pro, I have no idea why Ross wanted him so badly.

Posted by: AtlFin | December 28, 2012 at 12:46 PM

Duhh.......................uh....

You ever think it may have a lot to do with not really being in position to draft Luck and RG3 outright?

Where are the trolls today? Does it get quiet when Ireland's back and the team is close to .500?

Are they off writing new material?

Zonk,
Im not assuming Tannehill progresses like Henne, Im asking how can you compare the two or say that Tannehill is the second coming of Henne. That is saying you are assuming Tannehill progresses like Henne...
Tannehill's ceiling is alot higher than Henne's. You pair that along with the coaching staff that is around him, known for developing players, and Tannehill has a lot better chance of becoming a good NFL QB..

Agreed Big Ben played down the stretch but I don't believe he was healthy. Adds to my point....if they'd had a capable backup they would have made the playoffs.

Craig,

Absolutely. I think a better backup would have gotten them to the playoffs but their running game is a mess.

BTW--The Steelers are crazy for getting rid of Arians & hiring Haley.

I hope Matt More resigns here as the #2.

Love ya Matt!

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