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Tannehill's decision-making light years better than Sanchez

I just got done watching the Jets and Tennessee.

And when I stopped shaking my head in disbelief (this took several minutes) it dawned on me that one thing Mark Sanchez has been unable or refused to learn through nearly four full seasons as an NFL starter, Dolphins quarterback Ryan Tannehill seems to do seemingly by instinct.

Sanchez, a mistake machine who has turned the ball over and NFL high 50 times the last two seasons, throws into double and triple coverage time and time and time again. It's like he's almost trying to throw interceptions.

He does it when he's got time. He does it when he's under pressure and seemingly panicked. He does it a lot.

He'll see one receiver and maybe two defenders and somehow believe that's a good place to go with the football.

It's incredible that he does it.

Tannehill rarely if ever does this and he's started only 12 NFL games.

"... On the film, there’s not a lot of they’ve got four, we’ve got one," Dolphins coach Joe Philbin said. "I think that’s a good place to start. And I think his overall awareness as a young player is very good.”

I'm not saying Tannehil is a great quarterback. He's not yet. I'm not even saying he's going to be great once he gains more experience and has more talent around him. We'll just have to see if that happens.

But Tannehill's chances of being good are, well, good if he makes good decisions. It's a fundamental principle. If he keeps the football out of harm's way, he already has the game-managing thing licked.

It's good to have the Miami quarterback in that place.

It's especially good when you consider the Jets quarterback isn't anywhere near that place.

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Yeah, Texas, I read that somewhere and I agree with you. He's super gifted and those 300lb offensive linemen can't handle his athleticism given that Jordan is an athletic 240lbs. He's a match up problem in a finesse (passing) game which a lot of games are - including the ones against the only team in our division better than us.

DC - I agree with you posts on the Defense and the prioities of the team overall. Craig and Mark - I tend to disagree with your points on defensive priorities.

Pass Rush is NOT a priority at the moment. Secondary improvements are CRITICAL.

Here is my simple take:

1) Pass Rush can be manufactured by a lot of different positions and ways. Our existing approach ranks us Top 5 and that's really good. Note that accounts for QB pressures and not just sacks. If we can be Top 5 every year I would take it in a minute. The Jets and other successful defenses create pass rush from many different positions. They are able to do this because they have shut down corners.

2) CB and WR are the most pressing need on this team and I would commend Ireland if he used picks 1, 2, 2, and 3 on these positions. Assuming they can't land a #1 WR or CB in FA.

But focusing on CB for the moment,...

3)The fact is unless you have two Shut Down Corners (not bookends...Joke!), you have to play zone. It si very difficult to successfully land two Shut Down Corners. My definition; they shut off their side of the field, have great ball skills and hit hard creating turnoves.

4)I would only resign Smith if I can pay #2 or #3 CB money. I agree Smith does pretty well in press cover. But he really struggles in Zone. He is also not a big hitter. So knowing he doesn't catch well and doesn't hit hard he will not create turnovers. He is just not a Top talent CB. I agree its a gamble to not sign him in FA without knowing the exact realities of the Draft. So, sign him if reasonable but overpaying as a #1 CB is a firable offense in my mind.

5) Clearly Wilson, Stanford, Marshall and Carroll are not top talent CB's. They put nothing on game day film that suggests they are consistent. I don't want to hear about Marshall being hurt. He played bad every week he was in there. All of these guys have to go.

6) I agree that Clemons is not in the right position too many times. He has cost us many big plays. He takes bad angles after receivers catch the ball. I think he has shown improvement and is getting better at stopping the run but his 'ball skills' are just not there. I'd like to see the Fins add depth by using a 4th or 5th round pick.

agree bills fins game horrible. but be interesting to see how thill finishes year vs pats

Back to physical corners:

Probably the best corner we ever had, SAM MADISON, never met a tackle THAT HE LIKED.

As great a ballhawk and cover corner MADISON was, I saw on MANY OCCASIONS where MADISON literally RAN AWAY when he saw a opportunuty to make a TACKLE in his vicinity.

Madison wanted no parts of TACKLING RB's nor TE's.

It would cost the Jets 17 million in cap space if they were to cut Sanchez. And no one will want to trade for him so it looks like the Jets are either stuck with him through next season or they cut him and suffer the consequences which will kill their season next year. Bottom line, the Jets are doomed.

And a few of us called it, time to pat ourselves on the back. I for one said the Tebow signing was incredibly stupid and that it would effect Sanchez's play having the fans chanting for Tim because Mark doesn't have good mental make up.

Where are the "Tebow is going to be the difference this year for the Jets" guys? Care to retract?


Just like last year we are killing our draft position. The result will be stinking again next year.

ALSO, four years ago when the Jets made their free agency splash there were a couple of us saying they had better win now because the cap ramifications and aging vets on the roster would cause them to have to rebuild again in a few years. Well lookie lookie at what's happening.

I just love that our opinion got met with a bunch of "you guys are idiots, the Dolphins should take a page from the Jets off season playbook" comments. Those guys now? I guess they died because I don't hear a peep from them.

Ross should have traded for Tebow. At least he'd put some fans in the stands and stop the bleeding. And the guy is a proven winner with a great work ethic.

jets will keep him, be a backup

Believe it or not, Chris Clemmons is actually getting better. Far from pro bowl material, but, he's actually turning into a "solid safety".

By "solid" I dont mean he has pro bowl potential. It only means he's doing less to hurt the team than in the past. This is easily his best season as a dolphin.

Hell, its great to see this kid make any sort of progress. He's gone from horrible to solid in a year's span.

Lastly, Sparano should never get a job again in the NFL unless it's as an assistant, maybe o-line coach again.

How many QBs is this guy going to ruin in one career? First Henne, now Sanchez. Who's next?

Gruden was even commenting last night about the huddles on the sideline after the offense sputtered. He was talking about how it always looked like mass confusion, like they didn't have a real plan and were winging it, drawing up plays on the sideline or something. 6 people huddled around Sparano pointing at the plays. Pathetic.

Ross got rid of Sparano a year too late!!!!

Marino13 the draft is weak this year, they're not screwing anything up. Our young guys need to learn how to win, not to lose so they can get a higher pick that means absolutely nothing.

Clemons is solid but he doesn't have play maker instincts. He would make a GREAT #3. Would love to find a play maker to compliment Jones.

Tebow can't even get on the field ahead of Mcelroy. What does that tell you? When are people going to realize Tebow isn't a good QB?

Does anyone talk in here anymore? Sheesh, might as well take off. Peace

Marino 13,

Looks like we could possibly finish 7-9. It would be a pipe dream to think we beat the Pats and finish 8-8.

If by miracle we finish 8-8, I think we draft 15th-20th. 20th means possible wildcard.

Still, drafting anywhere in this range allows us to comfortably fill a primary need. Plus it gives more flexibility in terms of value in our 1st rd pick.

There may only be 3-5 high instant impact players available anyway. If we pick top 10, Ireland may over reach and take a player that should have been taken 15th-20th. At least this way we get the right player at the right value.

Posted by: Marino 13 | December 18, 2012 at 05:23 PM

Posted by: Nat Moore | December 18, 2012 at 05:26 PM

Same guy.

Clay is out for the rest of the season who do you think will replace him in the next game?

Phin 78,

I believe in the 1st and 2nd rds, wr position is extremely talented and deep. There are even gems in the rough that could surprise in the 3rd rd.

I know we will draft at least 1 wr 1st or 2nd rd. Moore and Matthews performance in these remaining 2 games will indicate whether or not we add 2 new wr's this offseason.

Miami signs Dimitri Patterson, CB, off of the waiver wire from the Browns...

Phins78,

I was one of the guys who was laughing at the Jets for all their FA signings and trades, as you probably well remember. I took a lot of abuse from others on here about it too. All I heard was 'they've been to the Championship game twice' stuff and how we weren't doing enough to win. Looks like the rooster has come home to roost. It looks good one them now. Yes, I think they are stuck with Sanchez for another year and a ton of aging vets. Wouldn't be surprised if Ryan keeps his job but I think Tannenbaum will be done.

Dolphins claim Dimitri Patterson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If we dont resign Starks, I can see us taking a DT in the 1st 3 rds also. I just read an article that Kevin Coyle doesnt feel 100% good about moving Odrick inside.

So, to me, that suggest either signing a quality DT in fa(which doesnt make sense if you dont resign your own fa Starks), or using a quality draft pick( one of the 2nd, or one of the 3rd rd picks).

Tracy474,

Patterson could be a good signing. Coyle's already worked with him in Cleveland, so he's familiar with what he's getting. Im sure Coyle had a lot of input in signing him.

CraigM,

At the time of all of the Jets fa signings, this blog was pretty evenly split. Half were whining the Jets have surpassed us and we should have done the same, and the other half said it would shortly catch up to them as it has now.

So, you, me, and "many others" said this. Not just you homey. I remember, this blog was about 50/50 split on this matter.

The NFL coaches with experience in the league always seem to find work on another team, if they still want employment.Its not like a lot of jobs nowadays where the person that does the hiring will have to start with a stack of resumes,there arent many jobs to begin with and having experience is golden in that profession.

YG
PHINS78
DASHI

DO YOU GUYS HAVE JOBS ?

ARE LIVING WITH A GIRL FRIEND WHO WORKS TO SUPPORT YOU ?

PLEASE TELL US ,,THANK YOU

I think Rex Ryan is dumped along with Tannenbuam at season's end. Tannebum paid far too much for a "bust qb" and Rex Ryan could do nothing to develop him.

They both failed.

YG


WHAT THE JETS DID WITH SANCHEZ LAST 3 YEARS WAS GREAT FOR THEM ...WHILE WE R LIVING IN (( MAKE BELIEVE ))........


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ALoco,

Your lovely girlfriend Maria supports me with your minimum wage dishwasher paychecks. At least now I have my beer and cigarette money.

Please tell the lovely Maria I said thanks. OK?

If tannehill gets another big receiver is the issue. Maybe Dwayne Bowe would like to come homeas a free agent pickup. Or a draft pick like Keenan Allen or Justin Hunter. Tanne needs another BIG target, as it is he has done his best work with Hartline and Faisano, if the size what he needs play to it.

DASHI WOULD RUN NAKED IN THE STREET ,IF WE HAD THE SAME SAME 4YEARS THE JETS HAD WITH SANCHEZ.......

YG,

TELL ME WHAT DID YOU DO FOR LIVING ALL YOUR LIFE,PLEASE .......

When did it become Ryan's job to develop a QB? He's a defensive coach?

It's about Schotty and Sparano failing with him but primarily it's about Tannenbaum getting it wrong, trading up to get him and not keeping a good enough supporting cast around him.

Ryna will be back.....watch.

And 'Homey'? When did I become 'Homey'? And you're DEAD wrong on the 50/50 split thing. The vast majority were singing the Jets praises. Last thing, I never said I was the only one. Yes there were a few....but MOST kept on about all the great stuff the Jets ere doing.

WHY OUR FAN BASE IS DUMB ?


B/C THEY R TAL;KING ABOUT A PLAYER HIS NAME IS BESS ,WHO GETS 2 MILLION A YEAR FOR DOING NO THING IN 4 YEARS .........

BESS ,4 YEARS,AND 2 TD ...

THE

CELLAR ....

CraigM,

"Homey" is an American slang mostly meaning "in good standings". Rednecks like to purely associate it with being "black".

We are in "good standings" arent we "homey"? LOL...

LOL...OK, gotcha YG....yes we are.

Friendly wager that Ryan survives....

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THIS IS AN EVENT ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

NOW, KRIS WILL FEEL BAD AND WILL START ATTACKING BOTH OF THEM ..

ALoco,

Kris and I are good. We don't always see eye to eye on things but from my perspective there's a mutual respect there. Kris will correct me if I'm wrong.

CRAIGM,


I LIKE KRIS A LOT, WHEN KRIS TALK ABOUT TROLLS ,HE'S ATHIS BEST.


AS YG,HE'S TOO SMART FOR THIS BLOG.

AS FOR YG

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These Trolls here are lazy as all hell, they don't even bother to hide their traces, change the names...

OSCAR,

TELL US WHAT DID YOU DO FOR LIVING IN THE LAST 40 YEARS ,PLEASE...

If Cincy loses their last two and the Steelers lose to Cleveland the final week of the season Miami could still make the playoffs.All Miami has to do is beat Buffalo and they will still have a pulse going into the last game....not bad given the expectations widely held after Hard Knocks.

YG!!!!!!

What!!! I demand a re-count!!

I consulted People like you, ALoca.

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DUMB ,FAN BASE........

OSCAR,

THAT MEANS ,YOU WERE TALKING FOR 40 YEARS,ALL YOU DO ,IS TALKING ,,,,

Playoffs?????

Playoffs?????

Are you kidding me???

Playoffs!!!!!!!!

IS FL STILL COUNTING THE VOTES ?

Average time between post and post is 2'. Now, when I post,is 7'. I wonder why?

I also hear, ALoco. A lot of Horror Stories.

OSCAR,

WHY YOU DON'T TELL US THE MOST INTERSTING STORY YOU HEARED FROM YOUR WORK DAYS ....


BETTER THAN TALKING ABOUT CRAPPY PLAYERS,,,,

Ok I have been thinking alot lately and I have some ideas that make sense and something that Ireland might do.

First off our free agents: Sign Starks, Hartline, Fasano(1yr), Spitler.

Let Walk- Smith, Long, Clemons, etc

Cut- Kevin Burnett, Incognito

Trade- Devon Bess and 7th for 2rd and 7th round pick

FA signings- GB WR Greg Jennings (Obviously everyone knows why him over the others), Atl CB Brent Grimes (better CB for the scheme and would probably pay the same for Smith, NE OG Donald Thomas (need a more athletic OG and he fits the bill and is reasonable)

Draft- Im figuring we pick around 15

1st- FSU DE Bjoern Werner (I'll Explain Later)

2nd- Tenn WR Cordarrelle Patterson (Speed, Height, and a playmaker)

2nd- NC OG Johnathon Cooper (Athletic OG Needed once again Ill explain later)

2nd- Wash CB Desmond Trufant (Young CB With speed to mold)

3rd- LSU ILB Kevin Minter (A hard hitter with instincts need to find Dansby's eventual replacement)

3rd- Texas A and M WR Ryan Swope (why not get our QB's fav target from college, plus he will be a great player)

4th- Fresno State S Phillip Thomas (Playmaking safety who can catch)

5th- San Jose St TE Ryan Otten- (Big TE who can block and catch)

Rest BPA

Werner was drafted bc he will replace Vernon who I think is better suited as a linebacker (yes he is very athletic and can be a Von Miller type of LB). I also move Dansby to the other OLB and let Minter have the middle. Pass Rush automatically improves bc you can attack the OL from many different positions.

I didn't draft a OT bc I think John Jerry can be our RT he is just too big for OG but he is perfect for RT and Martin at LT. New OL is as follows- LG-Thomas, LT- Martin, C- Pouncey, RT- Jerry, RG- Cooper

The draft gives the weapons needed on offense and also helps the defense what do yall think? By the way I am still hopeful Egnew develops I wasn't really impressed with this years TE's thats why none were taken till later rounds

Man, Kevin Burnett has been our most cosistent(yes, consistent) LB. Good pick-up by Ireland.

Mr. Kevin Burnett is also the one that calls our D-7 alignment. Perhaps, burger king, you might want to become more educated in the Dolphins before posting here.

Once again, 7' have elapsed before any other posts here. Peculiar.

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