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An honest look at Greg Jennings, Jermichael Finley

If you've spent any time on this blog since the season ended you know that when the discussion has turned to free agency two names have dominated the conversation.

Mike Wallace.

Greg Jennings.

I shared with you some pertinent truths and myths about Mike Wallace earlier in the week. (As the post was at the top of the blog only a couple of hours you might want to check it out).

Now I'd like to share some Jennings knowledge from folks who know him more than me. The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel recently graded every Packers offensive and defensive player. It is a major undertaking and, no, I'm not going to do it here because I don't think I could be fair to everyone. I have not studied enough tape to tell you exactly how Randy Starks compared to Paul Soliai.

Fair or not, right or wrong, the Journal-Sentinel did it with the Packers.

And what did the paper say about Greg Jennings and the season he had in 2012? Read:

"Will be 30 early next season, has missed 11 of the last 22 games due to injury and in all probability will be allowed to walk in March as an unrestricted free agent. Averaged merely 10.5 yards per catch, including 4.3 after the catch. Early in season as a slot, there were times it seemed he was just looking for a place to fall down. Just how strong his market value will be could hinge on how much stock scouts put on his superb performance at Minnesota in the regular-season finale. Gifted, precise runner still offers vertical stretch. There are just too many other capable players at his position and too many players at other positions that must be paid. Grade: C-plus."

And now we have a problem. I'm not ready to proclaim the paragraph above as the gospel on Jennings. But it says a lot when you consider his age, recent injury history, recent production and compare it to earlier in his career while using two critical factors:

Critical factor No. 1: The man has perhaps the best QB in the business throwing to him and he had a C-plus season and the team is ready to dump him.

Critical factor No. 2: He wants to get paid! A lot. We're talking no less than $7 million per year and likley way north of that.

That, of course, does not change the truth that Jennings is familiar with Dolphins coach Joe Philbin and vice versa. That doesn't change the fact Jennings has family members that want him to play in Miami.

But is he the right investment? Is he the best value for the buck?

Free agency is a crapshoot. We all know that. It misses more often than it hits. And it misses mostly when excellent personnel departments determine that a player isn't worth the money he's asking and let him go to another personnel department that doesn't know the player nearly as well but values him more.

The Packers have an excellent personnel department. They don't make a ton of mistakes. They let Matt Flynn walk as a free agent QB last offseason and while he got a big payday from Seattle, he couldn't beat out a rookie third-round pick name Russell Wilson. Now he's sort of a problem for the Seahawks because backup QBs should not be making $6.5 million per season.

The Dolphins wisely kicked the tires on Flynn and passed. They didn't want to pay that price. Jeff Ireland, who takes a ton of heat here, got that one absolutely right.

It didn't matter that Flynn and Philbin were boys. The Dolphins passed.

That is encouraging to me because it suggests familiarity will not blind the Dolphins with Jennings either. Let's face it, he's a good player. He would upgrade Miami. He's a great citizen.

But the price is the thing, folks. He's probably not worth what he'll be asking, particularly if there is another faster, younger, admittedly more expensive, but better fit on the market. Mike Wallace. 

And if the Dolphins are budgetting only one major expensive unrestricted free agent wide receiver signing, it should not be a player who had a C-plus contract season.

While I have you, let me also draw your attention to the tight end topic. The same Journal-Sentinel reported during the season that the Packers were going to part ways with tight end Jermichael Finley. The paper reported he'd be either traded or cut before a $3 million roster bonus hits this offseason.

Trading for him, something I initially advocated, would be a terrible approach. I was wrong in suggesting that before doing my homework.

My homework tells me getting Finley in trade would cost something like $10 million against the salary cap. No thanks.

If he's available after being cut, that is another story because then the team can work a new deal with him. But trading for that contract should be out.

Anyway, this is what the newspaper said about Finley's 2012 season:

"Dropped five passes and lost one fumble in the first five games, just one drop and no fumbles after that. Preparation for games appeared far more professional down the stretch, wasn't fixated on his numbers and let game come to him. Caught an occasional seam pass but did best work in the flats. Possesses good, not great, speed and fine athleticism. Degree of stiffness hurts him after the catch and on some routes as a split receiver. Played 47.5% of his 769 snaps from a conventional TE position and 5.7% as extra blocker in the backfield. Regressed as a run blocker, allowing 9½ "bad" runs after having just six in first four seasons. Owed a $3 million roster bonus if on roster in March. Grade: C-plus."

Oh goodie, another player who had an average season! Doesn't sound great does it?

Look, I'm not kicking Finley to the curb. He's a good player. He's better than what Miami has. But he's not the best in the business. He's not elite. He's good.

So the operative term needs to be value. We've already established trading for Finley does not offer value given that he'll bring a big cap hit with him. The question is if he's on the market as a free agent after getting cut (assuming the newspaper was correct, you never know) is can he be landed at a value cap amount?

Interesting, isn't it?

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The fanbase despises Ireland with good reason. He has never in his life drafted a good playmaker and why he is still a GM is just mind boggling.

All you talk about for playmakers is offense - how about safety Jarius Byrd for free agent playmaker

Steve, I think they will give Tannehill another chance although I wouldnt mind seeing a trade for a Drew Brees or a Philip Rivers. At the very least they'll probably draft another QB to compete with Tanny.

Thank you Miami for making me a millionare then sending me to San Fran to win a Super Bowl. Maybe one day, you to will make the playoffs.

Ireland said we need playmakers. If he can find a way to draft Ertz, Deandre Hopkins, Stepfan Taylor & a RT our offense will score points next year.

I have no concerns with Jennings' skills at WR & even though he's going to be 30 year, he still has another 3-4 good years left as a WR. My concerns are solely based on the amount of game Jennings has missed over the last two years. If you're going to pay a guy big-time money ideally you want to get a guy that doesn't miss games.

Mike Wallace is younger & a true 'burner' but Jennings is a more versatile & savvy WR. If the price is too high (& it might be) for these guys then I'd rather Ireland spend the money on getting a quality CB.

Frist things things--Ireland needs to lock up Hartline. Considering Hartline's age plus the fact that he's coming off his best season, it would be insane if he let him walk. After that we'll see who else is out there & how much they're looking for.

I have no concerns with Jennings' skills at WR

Posted by: We Need Playmakers | January 23, 2013 at 11:52 PM

You may have no concerns but really what do you really know about Jennings other than 2 or 3 media reports by ignorant journalists that get paid to write? Have you trained him? Coached him? Scouted him Broken down tape on him?

You may have no concerns because you really have no way to know anything whatsoever.

It is comforting to know that Donnie DooshBlogger has no concens about Jennings.

I know nothing more than it makes me wonder why one of the top teams in the nfl doesn't want him.

I've seen both Jennings and Wallace play. Jennings is far superior to Wallace. Wallace is a one trick pony ( a god trick to have though). Jennings can do everything well but most importantly, makes the difficult catches look routine. That's what a young QB needs to get his confidence built up early on in their careers.

The term elite means that there are only a handful, not 20, 10 or 7, but 2-3 players at each positions that can be considered elite. Otherwise, there is not much that separates player. Elite is Andre Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald at the WR position. QBs, systems, chemistry are all factors. We need to pay for a good WR, better than Hartline, which will be hard to do in FA since he had a strong season. We don't need a sexy name, but just need someone with good speed, that can get open and doesn't drop passes. You're going to overpay, that's FA. One team's trash is another team's treasure. I'll give Ireland some credit that he is shrewd with the money so I don't fear he will overpay too much.

not so sure passing on Flynn was a great idea he is probably better than Tannehill or at least would have had a better season this year , who knows if Tannehill will ever be good 12 td passes in 16 games is not so wonderful.

I'M STILL IN FAVOR OF G.B. WR JENNINGS & G.B. TE FINLEY.
JENNINGS IS A SOLID ROUTE RUNNER.
HARTLINE IS A SOLID ROUTE RUNNER.
BESS IS A SOLID ROUTE RUNNER.
FINLEY WOULD BE AN ASSET ON SLANT & SEAM
ROUTES.
NOTRE DAME TE EIFERT WOULD BE A GREAT PICK.
TEXAS A&M WR SWOPES IS A DECENT ROUTE RUNNER.
MIA WR #86 MATTHEWS WOULD PLAY AS A SPECIAL TEAMS
PLAYER & A RESERVE PLAYER.

Flynn better than Tannehill!!!

Scottbibs, go post some where with that dumb crap!!

Armando,

The reality related by your article is and should be considered relevant to what this current regime will pay for them. Both Jennings and Finley are upgrades for the Miami Dolphins. The Dolphins should not expect elite. The Dolphins need a Mike Wallace to stretch the field and help the running game. He has more value than the amount of receptions he would make. Therefore the Dolphns are going to have to pay Wallace his due. That said a better option would be to get Jennings and also draft in the 1st round a speed receiver.

If Jennings and Finley are C minus's, what are Bess and Fasano? This team has no playmakers!

JENNINGS IS 4.3 AFTER THE CATCH?

HARTLINE MUST BE 1 INCH AFTER THE RUN..

Maybe all the FA WRs this year are bad fits for us. We could spend the cap money on a CB (best available), and maybe a guard (Levitre?) or TE (Cook or Bennett) and draft two WRs in our first 5 picks.

We should use the BPA style in FA just like the draft. Our needs are WR CB OG OT DE TE. We can sign probably 2 or 3 high-priced FAs. If the guard we can get is more of an elite player at his position than any of the WRs, we should sign the guard.

Matt Flynn would've had us into the playoffs. But Ross was too cheap to pay him fairly.

Your article states it all right there. Owners often waste money on FA's and most of them are used parts. Jennings lays down after the catch. Oh great.
Build through the draft. I was happy to see the team didn't buy a big bunch of aholes last year. Give ME the ball went to Chicago.
Find the prototypical Wide receivers like the guys in Cincy. Tall lean with blazing speed that are smart enough to run a route. (face it you have to be a total idiot not to know what route to run) If you have a receiver on your team and he doesn't know what route to run by the first game of the season. Bench him and by game two if he still doesn't know the playbook, CYA, idiot.
I am not convinced Wallace is the man either. I am not convinced Tanne can hit anyone at speed. So why waste millions this year on a wing and a prayer. Another game changing pass rusher and a couple of ball hawks on defense make a larger difference. Because they give us more opportunities to go on offense and they scare the heck out of the opposition.

Just keep building both lines where they are able to change a game. A good tight end would be great. A corner back that isn't named Sean Smith.

Its not easy to replace Da Beast. Where is Michael Egnew? lol

With all the efforts Joe Philbin made last year to create locker room standards and instill a sense of cohesiveness to the team, it would seem not logical to think that the Dolphins will consider Finley. The Packers do not want him for much the same reasons Miami wouldn't.

Jennings is a salary cap disaster looking for a place to happen. His cap hit to the Packers was over $7M last year and he wants a raise for this year and future years. He'll be 30 next year and has an injury history. What kind of money should the team invest in this guy?

Mike Wallace, in the 2012 off season, declared he wanted Larry Fitzgerald money. Fitzgerald signed an 8-year, $120M deal with the Cardinals in 2011. Good luck with that, Dolphin fans.

Big risk, big reward. We've all heard it before. Trouble is, big risk = big failure all too many times. While I favor giving Ireland some time to put things together, if he does one of these deals and it fails, I think he SHOULD be fired.

You bring up a good discussion topic billcale. I have a question for you. You say if Ireland signs one of these FA's and it fails he should be fired. So how long do you give him? 2013? 2 years?

Now say he doesn't sign any big name FA's, and goes the route of the Draft. And 2013 is a sub .500 year again. Do you fire him then? How long do you give him for the team to develop?

I ask because if we do your preferred route, improve through the Draft, then why would we re-sign Jake Long? He'll help in 2013 (hopefully). But I doubt any of us think he has more than 2-3 years (Mando said he'll never see the end of a 4 yr contract). So don't you think it's a waste of money to re-sign Jake Long if the plan is to improve through the Draft (i.e. longer timeframe)?

I'm open to your (or ANY ideas) to improve the team. I just like to hear a sound strategy that makes sense all around, so that's why I'm interested in your thoughts here.

Jeff Ireland in the interview said we need playmaker.
Looking at our situation we have only 1...Reggie Bush and I bet he wont be back.
If I was the GM I will resign Hartline and Fasano(not elite but 2 solid players)
I will trade for H Nicks and Jackson from the Eagle and try to get the best DE available. I will trade with the Jets for Revis for our 2nd rounder...this year Revis will get paid only 6 mil.
QB Tanne
WR Nicks Hartline Jackson Swope
RB Thomas Miller Lattimore
TE Fasano Ertz Egnew

Funny that some of the same people who say Long is finished wouldn't spend $8m on him but will spend $8M on Jennings who's even more broken down. Seems to be a bit inconsistent. All of the big 3 WRs have major question marks and the more I look at things, th best use of money on a WR in free agency is Brian Hartline. That doesn't bode well. I'd go trade for a receiver. The big 3 have huge bust factors all for different reasons....

... or the free agent is probably Steve Smith ... seems to be the safest bet even though he's the oldest.

Just noticed that Steve Smith signed a 4 year $38M contract extension with Carolina. Cap hits of $6.2M, $8M, $11M, $9M ... get used to it people, these are the numbers we are talking about ... and he wasn't even considered the big fish ...

KINDRY:

THEY GAVE HIM THE BALL AND LOOK AT WHAT HE DID.

I see that several crybaby, arrogant Patriots are skipping the ProBowl with fake injuries. Then they wonder why other teams say the things they do about them.

Revis is on the block

MOST OF YOU GET UPSET BECAUSE A PLAYER SPEAKS HIS MIND BUT HAVE NO PROBLEM SPEAKING YOURS.

WE HAD ONE OF THE BEST WIDEOUTS IN THE LEAGUE ON OUR TEAM AND DIDN't USE HIM ENOUGH..

BIG GOOD HANDS AND GREAT AFTER THE CATCH.

BUT YOU LOVE MISTER CATCH AND TO THE GROUND HARTLINE..

THAT MOTHER F~

DC, I changed my estimate of Ireland's time here after Ross's recent presser. I gave him through 2014 based on what Ross said AND if the team LOOKED LIKE it was improving. This wouldn't necessarily translate into a better record but mostly younger, better talent and cap conditions. This would give the team better positioning after the 2013 season to add the final piece(s) through FA in 2014.

I am no different than most regarding Jake: I think he's worth resigning but at discount. His injury history and play; salary and play of other LTs and RTs figure into that. It wouldn't be a big number.

There are LTs and RTs available this year rated higher than Jake at a presumed cost advantage. I'd rather see the draft used for WRs and the line improved through FA. Tannehill and Miller in year 2 behind a decent line could produce some startling (for Miami fans) results.

Armando,

There's an AWFUL lot of contradicitons in your post (and previous ones for that matter).

First of all you state: 'Free agency is a crapshoot. We all know that. It misses more often than it hits'. So why then have you been banging the drum so loudly for Wallace AND Jennings (and maybe only Wallace in some cases) as the 'cure all' for the Dolphins. So what you are ACTUALLY saying is, 'it might not be'.

Secondly, while it's fine that you post the comments from the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, the comments should be taken with a grain of salt. If they were any good, they'd be working for an organiation in the NFL. They're not. They're media guys, with all due respect, and that says to me they don't know any more about evaluating players than us fans. Great that they are all around the game and all but they are writers and media people, not talent evaluators. Big difference.

Next, you are REALLY hedging your bets on Finley. Previously you told us he was a 'must get', an upgrade, a difference-maker. Now you're sining a different tune. 'Oh goodie, another player who had an average season! Doesn't sound great does it'? So I'm confused. Which is it? Guess it's a good thing you're not holding the chequebook, cause if you're spending the money in FA, you'd better be right or you'll be out the door.

Lastly, I think you are looking at FA all wrong. If you think any of these guys we get are going to be 'home runs', you are going to be dissapointed. It's a losing proposition. The home runs come in the draft. ALL of these guys have flaws....or their teams wouldn't make them available. So we can debate the pluses and minuses of guys like Jennings until the cows come home, the reality is he upgrades what we have. Now the question is, do we spend the money or not?

Some of you guys are ridiculous stating Ross was too cheap to sign Flynn. For one he's ready to spend 210 million on the stadium. Two the Gm makes teh offer, and Ireland hit it on the head passing on Flynn, 9 million to sit on the bench. Do you really think Philbin realllllly wanted Flynn and Ireland low balled him to the point they couldnt come to a deal?

DC,

LOVED 'Zero Dark Thirty'. Not sure how accurate all the events are but it's compelling stuff. And I like that it wasn't a 'rah-rah' pro-US, pro-war movie, but rather told from a very neutral stance. The audience is left to decide what side of the fence to be on and that's always the sign of great film-making. Fully deserves all the accolades it's getting and is as good as any of the movies up for Oscars (of which I've seen about 5-6 now).

You guys know how I feel about Long. I think it's NONSENSE to read this stuff about him being 'done'. Nobody knows that as FACT and it shouldn't be passed off as FACT. There's no represcussions for guys being wrong on saying something like that, say take those comments with a grain of salt. I saw McKinnie being mentioned as a replacement. Good luck with that!! He hasn't been great for Baltimore. He's a BIG man. I don't think he fits here.....NEXT!

WHEN WE HAD BRANDON I WAS ALL IN AT GETTING DEZ BRYANT.

CRABTREE WE COULD HAVE PAIRED WITH MARSHLL

WHILE ALL OF YOU WANTED TO TRADE BACK TO GET MORE PICKS I SAID TRADE UP AND GET JULIO JONES.

HE ONLY RAN A 4.38 ON A BROKEN FOOT AT 6'3 220 LBS.

NO YOU WANT HARTLINE AND BESS.

"OH LOOK AT HIS YARDS PER CATCH"

"HE GOT OVER A 1000 YARDS"

THEY WERE BAD WITH BRANDON HERE AND THEY ARE BAD BY THEMSELVES.

YOU ONLY LIKE HARTLINE CAUSE HE's WHITE FACE IT.

YOUTUBE HARTLINE HIGHLIGHTS.

AND ASK YOUR SELF WILL HE START FOR A SUPERBOWL TEAM?

I DARE YOU.


Good point Craig. Don't really find "core" players in free agency too often ... more or less you are looking at a 1-3 year expensive band-aid. And we do need band-aids, but the guys that will hold the franchise on their shoulders are mainly found in the draft.

CRAIG:

DANSBY,INCOGNITO,STARKS,WAKE,

FREE AGENTS.

I WILL AGREE WE HAD MOSTLY BAD LUCK WITH FREE AGENTS.

You know if you look up the stats our big money should be thrown to Hartline and Jennings, Wallace or Boldin should get second tier money. Now that is if you go by the stats.

If you go by who has the better catch percentage you would go with Jennings, but he played only 8 games. So if you factor that in Hartline and Boldin catch most of the pass thrown their way.

Guess what I am trying to say maybe we should give Hartline his fair deal and make sure we draft the reliable WR. Boldin would still be a cheaper stop gap than Jennings or Wallace.

Another factor might also be Wallace is target long more than the rest, just trying to keep it real. But as much as it pains me to say this resign Hartline and draft a WR early and late. I would like to use that first and second on a pass rusher/OL you could flip the two depending on who falls. But that means you have to find a Gem with that second,second pick. Very risky.

You would also have to find a vet off the scrap heap to fill in for insurance. Dont have a clue who that would be. And would probably make most on this board declare the season over before it started.

Go Dolphins!

As a Wisconsin Dolphin fan the Journal Sentinel couldn't have gotten it better. Finley is horrible, everyone at my Fire House gets disgusted with him every Sunday because he drops everything and the stuff he catches he celebrates like a 2 year old.

Same can be said of Jennings, too inconsistent. And being from Wisconsin, I get the chance to see how good Rodgers is. It is hard to judge a reciever who has has Favre and Rodgers throwing to him his whole career

Good stuff billcale. I know I bust your chops a lot, but just like to make people round out their strategies and see it from all angles.

Craig, right on with Zero Dark. I thought the same, amazing movie. Some will think it's a propaganda piece, but I just like the artistic value. It's an "interpretation" of what the Director found out in her research. But I think smart viewers can come away with their own impressions.

Let Michael Egnew develope. I really think he will be a great addition to the offense and R. Tannehill. Like everyone says, build though the DRAFT. Also the 5 picks in the top 86 will end up being a bust or boom for Miami and Jeff Ireland. As always, GO DOLPHINS

Anyone else discover the more we go into the offseason that the best free agents available are actually our own players ??? :(

NO HANDOUTS FOR BILLIONARES WHO CANT BUILD A WINNER!!

32 TD in 4 years is Wallace production. Does any WR come close to these kind of numbers on the Dolphins?? Not even close. Yet some of you rather have a rookie WR and expect him to have a Moss season LOL. I dont mind Jennings but with him always being injured and up there in age, I rather Wallace and draft a WR.

Build thru the draft?? With Ireland?? LOL! Wake up and get a dose of reality!

sign revis!!!!!We gave them our castoffs,about time we took someones #1 DB.I know he's a jet but his skills are top 5 in nfl. The medical staff can decide if he is worth it and we sure could use a great DB.Ok,open season on P.A.Y

Who Will Replace Jake In Free Agency?

And At A Lower Price. Or Equal And Younger. Even RT's!! If Not I'm Taking Jake!! Even At The Franchise Tag!! Franchise Tag Might Be The Best Route With Jake!! If Somebody Wants Him Bad Enough They Can Trade For Him! Or We Keep Jake For 1 More Season!! See If He Is Fully Healthy! If Not Then Martin Will Transition Better As A 3rd Year Player! Than A 2nd Year Player!

Like The Fins Did With Soliai!!

How Much Is A.Levitre Is Going To Cost? Jake Long Money? Then I'm Taking Jake!!

Incognito Can Work For 1-2 More Seasons! Jerry Needs Competition! Draft A OG high! Top 3 Picks!

Mr.Long Is Not T.Bosselli!! Bosselli had Arthritic Shoulders!!

Jake Has Hurt 1 Shoulder! Then The Tricep On The Other One! Not The Same Injury Twice Like RG3!

What This Tells Me Is He Has Never Had The Proper Time To Recover From 1 Injury! I blame The Old Coach! Spo!!

After Philbin Finally Gets Him Healed!! You Guys Want To Let Go Of Long!! That Is Insane To Dashi!!

The 2 Most Important Resigns The Dolphins Need To Make. J.Long and R.Starks!

Followed By Clemons and Hartline!

Then Bush And S.Smith!!

Dashi, Forget about franchising Long that will cost 12 million on the cap, Is JL worth that??? Heck no. If he doesnt want 8 million a year let his arse walk.

Great post at 8:57 billcale

Revis wants $16M a year after his contract ends next year. that's apparently why the Jets want to move him. I'm not paying anyone $16M a year unless his name is Aaron Rodgers.

No doubting Wallace's production but at that kind of cap hit, you will definitely be creating a hole in the roster somewhere else and I'm not sure he's that type of player that you are willing to do that for.

Clue,

OK.

Then Who Is Going To Replace Long?

And If You Say J.Martin! Then Who Is Going To Play RT?

Even At "$15" Mil For A Year!! Jake Is Still A Deal!!

It Is Called Security!!

Franchise TAG! Gives You That!!

Jake Was Playing Hurt This Year!! Next Year Jake Will Be Fully Healthy!!

Got to agree with Clue re: jake Long. I even think that $8m is more than fair ...

Albert, Volmer, Baker, Andre Smith would all be available for $8M or maybe even less. Not saying any of them can touch jake at his best but nobody even knows if jake himself could even get back to Jake at his best.

Draft Matt Barkley.

Jake is worth 10 mill/yr and we can easily afford him.

Craig M, I see you are confused so let me clear things up for you:

Free agency IS a crapshoot. Guess what? The draft is a bigger crapshoot. That doesn't mean you do not participate, ok?

Just because there are risks does not mean you walk away head bowed. I have advocated signing Mike Wallace. He is the best deep threat receiver on the market. Might he struggle in Miami? Sure, he's human and Ben Roethlisberger isn't coming with him. But he might also be exactly the deep threat the Dolphins have lacked in, well, forever.

Do you get that?

If Wallace slips through the hands, I don't think the Dolphns should simply shrug shoulders and give up. If that guy goes elsewhere, look at the next best available guy. And you keep doing that until you decide that, all thing considered, the next best available guy can best be had through the draft.

I have said -- and perhaps you missed -- that the best way to bring along a young QB is to give him an experienced alpha WR. The Dolphins need that. You can only get that in free agency as the draft offers no players with experience.

You say I have written that Wallace is a "cure-all" for the Dolphins. That's a bold face lie. Never written that or said it anywhere. So there's that.

As for Finley, I say pretty clearly in the post that my previous advocacy for Finley was wrong. I have changed my position. Did you read that? Did you understand it? You've been wrong two or three times in your one comment I'm responding to alone, so I imagine you can relate to being wrong.

Finally, you act like the draft is the be-all to everything. Look, the draft should build a majority of your talent haul. But, as you are obviously not aware, teams miss on 50 percent of their draft picks. Yes, home runs come in the draft, as you say. But strikeouts come in the draft as well. You conveniently forget that. I believe you AUGMENT your chances for adding talent by chasing a top free agent or two. I said TOP. Acorns need not apply.

Does that clear things up for you? Or are you still confused?

I wish I can post videos of Merriman pummeling Long when they played Buafflo, I wonder if you guys will still say hes worth 10 million. Hes been getting progressively worse every year. You guys are probably watching re-runs of the NFL Network top 100 player when Jake was like 50 or whatever it was, guess what hes not a top 100 player anymore. Time to move on

Jake has only been fully healthy in his first two out of five seasons. He has got worse each year health wise.

Do any of us know that this is going to suddenly end? His history indicates this will be ongoing. We have 45 million to spend. 6 to 8 million will be spent on the draft, that leaves roughly 38mil. Then we have to sign our own free agents as well. Now we're down to about 20 mil or so. And you are saying give Jake Long 15 mil out of that? So basically forget about any free agents who may help the team, lets sign a guy who was a turnstile (when he wasn't injured) last season for 15 mil?!

Armando, Craig is ALWAYS confused!! He knows nothing about football.....

Armando, yesterday, Ireland mentioned trades are on the table. This is something not really discussed here. Which offensive players do you think may be available in trades. With the extra picks, we are well armed in that area and may be able to life a player with a better contract than in free agency.

I woudl think for one Santonio Holmes would be a player available rather cheaply since he has a big cap hit and the jets are in major trouble.

Now, not saying they would like to move him in the division but they may not have much choice.

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