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Growing consensus: Egnew won't make it

I was a guest on the Joe Rose Show this morning on local radio station WQAM when the conversation turned to the tight end position. And Rose, a former Dolphins tight end, said the Dolphins need to sign or draft someone to play the position this offseason because in part ...

"I don't believe Michael Egnew is going to make it," Rose said.

And I wasn't surprised he said it because, I'm hearing that a lot from folks I'm talking to lately.

I've talked to two players the past three weeks that told me they don't see Egnew, a rookie last year, making it out of training camp next year.

"He should have been cut this year," one told me.

That doesn't account for Egnew learning to block and learning his assignments better and getting stronger and faster this offseason. But another player I spoke with said none of that will ultimately matter with the former third round draft pick.

"He's a p---y," the second player said. "He's not a football player."

It does not end there. I talked to Former Dolphins OLB/DE Kim Bokamper about Egnew the week before the season ended. He also said he does not believe the kid will ever be a factor. He's seen enough.

"You look at his body, look at his hips, he's built strange," Bokamper said. "He's not built like an NFL tight end. I had to cover tight ends and deal with tight ends my entire career and I never saw one built like that."

All of that sits atop the fact that Egnew made offensive coordinator Mike Sherman so disgusted in training camp that he told the kid during one offense meeting, "If I were the general manager, I'd cut you."

Egnew was inactive the entire season, except for the final two weeks when injuries (specifically to Charles Clay and Davone Bess) opened up enough open spots on the gameday roster to allow him to be active.

He played some early on in the final home game against Buffalo, but didn't catch a pass. He played less in the season-finale against New England the following week, getting mostly garbage-time snaps late in the fourth quarter.

Not exactly improvement.

Obviously, the Dolphins likely will allow Egnew to come to the offseason conditioning program, offseason camps and training camp to see if he shows anything.

But the growing consensus of him being on the team when the 2013 opens?

Not likely. 

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..Wow go to the hospital for a couple of days, and boom miss some goos debate. Displaced vertebae..

Anyway..I have been posting here for close to 5 seasons. And there is no way in hell that YG is Aloco or visa versa. Yg, and I have certainly had our disagreements here, and he can handle his own. No way.

I didn't get a chance to watch the NC game the other night. From what I heard TE'O had a bad night. And from what I have read..Now Chance Womack is the flavor of the week?? I'll have to try and find a way to see the game for myself.

As far as Egnew goes..Being called a PU&&y is harsh. That is as bas as it gets if it was from a teamate. I hope the FO has the guts to call it as they see it. If he has to go, to make room for a real contributor..Make it happen. Tight end is much to important of a position for us to fiddle with it any longer.

I believe in the power of mud chickens.

We're missing the obvious here. Armando went to the press conference on Monday and listened to what STephen Ross had to say. Armando didn't like what he heard from Ross as far as delving head first into free agency and build the team. Ross focused on building a franchise through the draft.

We have all asked about Egnew during the year. So in posting this Armando has killed two birds with one stone. One, he gave us the news on Egnew and what others thought of him. Two, he took a shot at Ross and his GM.

I actually like what Armando writes most of the time. But like Ireland said (i'm not his biggest defender), the $h!tstirring goes on!

DARRLY THE VOICE OF REASON,IMAGINE FLIPPER 78 THINKING IAM THE CONINUSUALLY UNEMPLOYED FLIPER BREED/YG/YG4EVER/LOL, I EMAILED ARMDNDO BUT DUGHTB ANYTHING WILL HAPPEN TO RACEST PHIN 78

(BUFFET OF KNOWLEDGE)

Daryl,

Manti Te'o was exposed. Bama abused him. They ran around him, they ran through him and when that didn't work they ran over him! I wouldn't take him in the top of the draft for any reason. ND prospects tend to have everyone drooling over them because of national media hype (Brandy Quinn). But at the risk of pis$ing everyone off ( don't really care) I would take Warmack with the first pick!! The guard from Bama. The kid can flat out maul people and not a bad pulling guard (which we need for the WCO).

DD,

Thx man. Just above your post ALoco attaks me. Yet Phin78 accuses me of being him and he of being me.

All of this chldish stuff is utterly crazy. Still I realize its "A FREE PUBLIC BLOG" so I respond to what I want to respond to and rush right past the rest.

Its a shame some posters(Phins78) comstantly pick fights with the wrong posters. Then declare everyone else is wrong and he is right. But, oh well, "it's still a free public blog".

YG4E/FLIPPER/DB/LOL, WHY IS PHIN78 SO MAD AT ME??
IS IT BECAUSE HE HAS NO CLASS/INTAGRITY BEING COMPARED TO YOU IS A INSULT.

SORRY.

TO BE
OR
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BE.

Egnew is a pure pass catching tigtend. There are plenty of TE's that had very good careers as just pass catching tightends. Egnew's problem is can he pick up the offense. Brains will be his downfall, not body type or being a p___y. Remeber when Porter called out the tightend of the seahwks for that same reason. He was a pretty good tightend even though he wasn't tough.

No idea where Te'o will wind up in the draft or whether Miami would be interested but a lot of you guys react too much in the moment (wildly swinging from praise to condemnation) rather than judging with an overall view.

It's common among fans, no doubt, but no actual personnell guy could ever--or WOULD ever--judge things that way.

Tons of future pro stars had awful afternoons in college mixed in with all the good ones. Hell, even our own Dan Marino was viewed skeptically by many after a Senior year at Pitt that wasn't nearly as impressive as the year before.

Again, I woouldn;t begin to tell you how Te'o will ultimately work out in the NFL (which you don't know either, I assure you) but to completely dismiss him on the basis of one game where his entire team got jackhammered is fairly ludicrous.

DD,

Also, Chance Womack is good, but Im not sure he's #12 pick good. However, almost anything can be an upgrade to Thomas at og. Still the official knock on Womack is "he's spotty in pass protection".

Most posters here just began to give Womack "all of the credit" for Bamma's awesome run attack Monday night. I guess because we can definitely use an upgrade to Jerry.

But, what I saw Monday night, and the reasonable posters noticed here too, was the entire Bama oline absolutely having its way. Not just Womack. But suddenly some posters here have given Womack "all of the credit" for Bama's success Monday night, when it was far from true.

All 5 Bama olinemen were "CONSISTENTLY" pushing ND's d-line 5YDS OFF THE BALL. Bamma's rb's could have just fallen forward and gained 5yds on most of thier carries.

Maybe some of you guys just know each other too well. I can't tell one poster or imposter from the other.

Some of you do make it more interesting sometimes though, than talking about our mediocre football team.

meant Jerry at og

That character as the player said, pu..., you don't think that is something that Ireland could have evaluated. The physical attributes are another thing that could have been evaluated. Ireland failed.

..Yg..I thought those accusations were ridiculous. The only similarities between you and ALoco is that you have both been posting here a long time. Thats it.

nyfinfan...As I said. I haven't seen the game. I have heard some opinions on the radio. Read a bit of the posts from that night. TE'O may have just had a bad game on the night the whole country was watching. I don't think he is as bad as those on the blogosphere are making him out to be. And he may not be as good as I thought..somewhere in the middle most likely. I have to see the game. As far as Wommack. It is hard to take one performance and say..This guy is a no brainer. I'm sure he is a very good player, playing with other very good players.(not to discount his effort) But, he is another offensive lineman. I think the team needs to be careful thinking that if we have a line full of high picks it will fix the issues we have. That is a lot of cash tied up on one unit. How does that play in the future trying to keep them all?

Dolfan Rick,

That's the problem. No one here really knows anyone here. At least 99% of us will never meet in "real life".

That may be a problem too. Some in here dont know the difference between a free public football blog and "real life". Thier "real friends" must hate them. LOL...

Well I figured that one out...Aloco..i think.

DD, YG,

I have watched the SEC games. I've watched Bama play more than I would like (hatred of Satan). The entire O-line is good. But focus on Womack and watch his technique. The only I saw were he had a little trouble was with LSU. I know about the need for playmakers, but the need for a pulling guard for our RB's is just as big of a need. Good thing this draft lineman heavy.

Aloco has a cat now? I thought he just had a dying iguana.

DD.......

PHINS 78 MADE MANY RACIST COMMENTS TODAY AND THEN HE CHANGED THE SUBJECT TO YG= ALoco,,,,,,,,,,,,,


i am ALoco and no one else .............

DD,

I agree, lastnight isnt a true indicator of Teo's ability. ND's "D-LINE" was absolutely atrocious. If your d-line cant at least create "stalemates with the oline". Then your lb's become toast.

I dont care who the lb is, pro or college, it will alays be a mismatch in the run game. Anytime a 6-7 325lb olineman goes against a 6'2 240lb lb.

It was the worst showin and greatest mismatch Ive ever seen, pro or college, with a "d-line vs the opponent's oline". ND's d-line was getting crushed, hence causing the lb's to get crushed.

my last post was around 3;00 pm,after that ,THAT WAS SOME ONE ELSE SIGNED MY NAME ...IT MUST BE THE DROP OUT OF MIDDLE SCHOOL ,ARMANDO .

Charlie Casserly & Bill Polian are the only two guys on either network that have been in the trenches that I can give credence to.
Posted by: We Have Draft Picks | January 09, 2013 at 11:43 AM
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Thank you!
I've been touting Casserly for months. he built both the Giants and Texans and made perhaps the most courageous draft decision in 2 decades...drafting Mario Williams ahead of Reggie Bush. It worked out well for the Texans, and now the Bills.

I saw many missed ND's tackles because the lb's werent quite in the right position because they were trying to dodge thier way around Bama olinemen most of the night.

ND's d-line has never seen anything close to the calibre of Bama's huge roadgravers.

Important factors for Dolphin draft choices:

RESTED, REFRESHED, PURE.

These are values the SERPA climbers of the Himalayan Mountains have!! They live very long and are pure of body and mind as well as athletic GODS with perfectly proportioned BODIES and LUNGS!!

Find these attributes and they will excel in the sport of football!!

..Have a good one fellas. Time for hot water therapy. I can't wait to feel back to normal.

Well hopefully one day have something seriously exciting to talk about on here like winning a playoff game or something...of course we gotta get there first.

I just hope we don't have fire our "GARAGE MANAGER" and start all over again before it happens.

Not that I really care if he gets fired, I'm just tired of being in the CELLER.

YG...... I DIDN'T ATTACK YOU,THAT WAS ARMANDO WHO SIGNS MY NAME TO HAVE FUN...NOTICE HE NEVER TRY TO FIX THE PROBLEM .......


ARMANDO HAS NO HONOR TO ALLOW A GUY LIKE THE ROFFER ACCUSES YG AND ME ALL DAY LONG ..NOT THAT I CARE ,BUT ARMANDO SHOULD SAY SOME THING TO SHUT THE MOUTH OF THE (( LOVE BOYS ))...................


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Not To Defend Anybody.

But Why Still Attack Odin?

Did Odin Scar you That Bad?

Cry Wolf Enough! And The Wolf Will Come Out.

Now Dashi. I Love The Hate! So Please, Bring It!!

The Funny Thing Is, It Is Always The Same Argument From Both Sides!! Even You, YG.

I Thought This Year We Were Past That!! After You Hear The Same Corny/Wack Stuff A Million Times. You Become Immune Towards The Ignorance. Don't Get Me Wrong If I Hear A Good Zinger, Dashi Will Come out to Play!! Else, Dashi Keeps The Excalibur On Safety!

I've Realized. Just Like In Life. Walk Away From The Argument Before You Do Something Stupid. Thanks For The Extra Anger Management Classes, Oscar. Needed The Refresher Course!

Yes, That Is what The Troll Wants. For You To Leave This Blog. Take a Minute, Just Comeback and Pay Him No Mind!! Enough People Here, you can have a Normal Conversation, While Still getting Hated ON!!

Take It From Dashi!! The Most Hated Man In Blog Entertainment!!

DD,

Hope You Get Better, Buddy. A Back Injury Is Nothing To Play With!

People, Don't realize it! But Even To Stand Up!! You Need Your Back!!

I agree with NYfinfan, if Warmack is available you have to take him. He will be an instant upgrade over Jerry. Warmack will help produce a 1000 yard rusher and help Tannehill develop as he will have more time to throw the ball. Here is Todd McShay's evaluation of Warmack:

He is one of the best guards I've ever evaluated, an easy mover in pass protection who shows plenty of smarts and is also a nasty run-blocker. McShay says that Warmack is a rare guard prospect worth using a top 10 selection on. That’s a pretty bold statement, but he obviously believes the 6’3″ 325 pounder is going to be a perennial Pro Bowl caliber player.

If I was Ireland, I would have a tough time deciding who to draft if Jarvis Jones and Chance Warmack are on the board. In my opinion, a big time pass rusher is more important than a dominant guard. Thus, I would probably take Jones if he is on the board but it is a tough call.

A loco....

STFU already.....

A few of you have made a solid argument for drafting Chance Warmack in the first round. You may be right, but let me counter with these thoughts:
1. If you really look at it, the CB position is the biggest hole in this team. Even if Smith is re-sign, we still have a hole to fill since we all know he's not a #1 CB. And if we don't sign him, the hole is even bigger. Therefore, I'm wondering if Milliner is the priority pick IF he's available at #12. I admit I don't know much about him other than he's high on everyone's radar.

2. We can all agree that this team needs playmakers. Lots of them. Although Warmack is a solid pick, what about reserving the first round for an impact player and look for OL help in FA? As Armando and some others have pointed out, what about getting Bills Andy Levitre or NE's Vollmer in FA? My preference is Levitre since he's proven to remain healthy over the years - but he may come at a high price.

Kris why don't you taking your whining cry baby attitude to another blog?

Getting labeled a vag from a teammate is never good but the weight of the word really depends on who said it.If its wake then I say the label fits. If its thomas or carpenter well its not a big deal and they just have porter disease or are deflecting attention from themselves.

The complete miss on Egnew should have been the last straw in convincing Ross to fire Ireland
A Complete waste of a third round pick
It's frightening to think how Ireland will mess up the 1st 3 rounds with all those picks this spring
God help us

The haters here are the most ignorant people. Ireland has faltered many times. It is true.

Every GM has, many times.

Every GM has blown picks. Not just 3rd round TE's, but FIRST ROUND TOP TEN, and FIRST OVERALL PICK.

So, you only make yourselves look like dumb teenagers with no life experience. Or, you are bored with no life.

Go to YouTube and search for Egnew. It's obvious vs Illinois that he almost always lines up as a receiver and cannot block, not even close at blocking ever.

Not sure what Ireland saw in this kid. None of us are general managers in real life, some think they are, but I never would have thought this kid was a tight end after watching all these videos. He really catches the ball well but again I did not see one good block.

Anyone ever play fantasy football where you are the GM and missed on an early round pick. I picked Chris Johnson with my second pick this year and he was the 16th best RB in our league. We all know Johnson is a stud but this was a wasted pick. Imagine how hard it is to pick a college player playing against non pro talent. Just sayin....for all you geniuses who think Ireland's job is soooooo easy. Most of you need real lives.

The Toughest Man On The Team!! Called Egnew Soft!! DANSBY!!

How Do I Know?

Cause Dansby is The One These Reporters Go To For Quotes!! (Why do you think they never write Nothing about the clown!!)

AND WE ALL KNOW HE IS A COWARD!!

Put your Name On It Dansby!!

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Before I Hear A Lousy Comment!! On Why Don't You Put Your Name On It!!

EVERYBODY KNOWS WHO I AM!!

Dansby is a man of god. He doesn't call people poosy.

Pat White, Phillip Merling, Langford, Chad Henne, John Beck, Vontae Davis, Michael Egnew, just to name a few early round picks that the Dolphins never got a return on. The Dolphins have had some success with their number one picks and early second rounders. However the above body or work seems to be from someone who is not a professional. Bill Parcells was never a NFL personnel guy thus the above results from previous drafts. Ireland did a good job within the last year regarding the salary cap but the Egnew pick is so bad that one would hope the skill positions needed by the Dolphins will be chosen by Philbin. I just do not see Ireland as a very good talent evaluator. Every GM makes mistakes but Ireland is lucky to have influential associates to the owner Ross.

Watched Egnew's "combine video" for first time; he looks tremendous and posted superb numbers. Was never touted as blocking tight end. Why didn't we game test him at end of year??

You might want to thread carefully with me ALoco, Internet and all. I post under my real name and you know it and I know you know it. I am well known in the Community and I'm not one of these fictional characters that abound in this Blog. If you slander my name you might find yourself with a problem in your hands.

Why do all of you Jeff Ireland critics focus on just one draft pick? And a third rounder tight end no less. All GM's have busts now and then. The Dolphins are stocked at the tight end position, it doesn't even matter if Egnew is a bust. What we need to look at is wins and losses, consistently making the playoffs, having a team full of pro bowlers. By any of these standards, Jeff Ireland is a great success at GM for the Dolphins.

ALL has been planned from the Beginning. Desist. You have NO chance.

Posted by: Ireland's Republican Army | January 09, 2013 at 09:59 PM

I GUESS YOU HAVENT NOTICED YET. IT'S THE BLOG TOPIC MAN! LOL...

"The Redskins traded their 2013 & 2014 first round picks to take a guy to run the spread option??? That's insane. It doesn't matter how great of an athlete a guy is or how fast he is, an NFL QB will not last long if he tries to make his living running the football.

I hope Pete Carroll is taking notes..."

I hope not...for all the same reasons.

All GMs have bad draft picks. You look at the ones that are good to evaluate them. Dolphin fans are over the top when they critizise Ireland for 5th and 6th round picks. A great QB like Tom Brady can erase a lot of mistakes. Yes, the Pats have had some good draft picks like Gronk and Hernandez but take a look at some of the Belichik's busts in round 1 and 2:

1. Adrian Klemm, OT,Hawaii -2000 Draft –2nd Round Pick46
2.Laurence Maroney,RB,Minnesota–2006 Draft–Round 1 Pick 21
3. Chad Jackson, WR, Florida – 2006 NFL Draft – Round 2 Pick 36
4. Terrence Wheatley, CB, Colorado – 2008 Draft – Round 2 Pick 62
5. Darius Butler, CB, UConn – 2009 Draft – 2nd Round Pick 41
6. Bethel Johnson, WR, Texas A&M – 2003 Draft – 2nd Round Pick 45

These were busts in the 1st and 2nd round. He has a ton of busts in in the 3rd round. I did not even check the ones in the later rounds. Belichick is seen as a genious but having Tom Brady can help erase a lot of mistakes. Point is if Tannehill becomes a top 10 QB we will start to see Ireland differently. The draft is a crap shoot. Everyone has misses.

We don't live of somebody's mistakes but of our Gains.

Orlando,

Winning 3 sb's, 5 sb appearances, conference championhip games, and missing only 1 playoff appearance in 11 seasons.

YOU TEND TO GET A PASS ON YOUR BUSTS. NO MATTER THE RD.

See, you make me mad and force me to come up with these great quotes that are probably being replicated all over the Virtual World.

Orlando Dolphan you are so right about Belichick, and that is why the Patriots are consistently so bad.
And, by the way, it is all Bill Parcells fault.

PLUS, THE PATS SHOW NO SIGNS OF SLOWING ANYTIME REAL SOON.

And WHY did we draft this guy??? Ireland better make up for it BIG TIME in this year's draft!

We have a distorted view of failure. Science, and all scientific acheivments come from years of trial and errorThat means many, many failures before there are successes. Failure is part of the success process. There is no such thing as batting .999 in anything.

Failure should be seen as one step closer to success, and not failure. True failure is not trying.

Posted by: Prophet | January 09, 2013 at 10:23 PM

TRUE FAILURE IS CHOOSING THE WRONG TIME TO TRULLY F U C K UP! SEE:

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