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Growing consensus: Egnew won't make it

I was a guest on the Joe Rose Show this morning on local radio station WQAM when the conversation turned to the tight end position. And Rose, a former Dolphins tight end, said the Dolphins need to sign or draft someone to play the position this offseason because in part ...

"I don't believe Michael Egnew is going to make it," Rose said.

And I wasn't surprised he said it because, I'm hearing that a lot from folks I'm talking to lately.

I've talked to two players the past three weeks that told me they don't see Egnew, a rookie last year, making it out of training camp next year.

"He should have been cut this year," one told me.

That doesn't account for Egnew learning to block and learning his assignments better and getting stronger and faster this offseason. But another player I spoke with said none of that will ultimately matter with the former third round draft pick.

"He's a p---y," the second player said. "He's not a football player."

It does not end there. I talked to Former Dolphins OLB/DE Kim Bokamper about Egnew the week before the season ended. He also said he does not believe the kid will ever be a factor. He's seen enough.

"You look at his body, look at his hips, he's built strange," Bokamper said. "He's not built like an NFL tight end. I had to cover tight ends and deal with tight ends my entire career and I never saw one built like that."

All of that sits atop the fact that Egnew made offensive coordinator Mike Sherman so disgusted in training camp that he told the kid during one offense meeting, "If I were the general manager, I'd cut you."

Egnew was inactive the entire season, except for the final two weeks when injuries (specifically to Charles Clay and Davone Bess) opened up enough open spots on the gameday roster to allow him to be active.

He played some early on in the final home game against Buffalo, but didn't catch a pass. He played less in the season-finale against New England the following week, getting mostly garbage-time snaps late in the fourth quarter.

Not exactly improvement.

Obviously, the Dolphins likely will allow Egnew to come to the offseason conditioning program, offseason camps and training camp to see if he shows anything.

But the growing consensus of him being on the team when the 2013 opens?

Not likely. 

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lol.ne has brady.

Pollster, D Thomas because he took 3 picks!

Yeah, He owns Thomas. The pick was ALL HIS and we've seen squat from him in two seasons. It's Thomas, hands down.

2 watt, quit being such a 2watt (twat). I wasn't syaing we will get 2,000 yards out of our TEs, just saying there is room for two guys to work the middle of the field.

DORK!

NH, you can say it, he looks retarded. Here the Patriots are getting smart football players, knowing the situation and scheme and what the team is trying to do, and Egnew's looking at a blade of grass trying to figure out why it stands upright after he steps on it. The guy is simply 5-cylinders short of a V6. He doesn't belong on the short bus, he belongs on a bike-cart (like in Asia). Give the guy a 1-way ticket back to the backwoods hole he came from.

Hey, why cut Egnew if they're keeping Ireland. Stinking doesnt seem to matter to this franchise.

yeah sure putz. back peddle y dont u.
lol

DC....

If what you're saying is true (and I hope its not)...

Then that is a HUGE indictment on Ireland and HIS STAFF...

If you canmake that assesment from where you are sitting...home come our GM and staff coudn't figure that out with meet and greets and interviews....

Something stinks....an as usual....it comming from our GMs office....

Gotta go to a meeting....

I don't know. Maybe I'm being a little too much of an optimist but the fact that we have 7 pro bowl alternates ... maybe if the QB matures as expected ... the losing seasons will be a thing of the past ...

haha, 2 watt, if you didn't make me laugh so much, I'd call you a dikk

Well Kris, he did draft a OT that is weaker than some punters.

On that one Kris, I agree completely. Like Craig said yesterday, Ireland's list of failures is stacking up. He really needs to have success this year, and I mean playmakers. To Mark's point, some of the role players are starting to step into their britches. So I'm not saying Ireland has only failed. He's had a bunch of successes too.

I tend to forgive Egnew because that was an overall pretty good draft for Ireland. But when you look at the need analysis, and how we could've used a young, pass-catching TE this year to help Tannehill, it starts to stink a little.

But like DD said the other day, Ireland gets a chance (to me) to make everything better this year. If he does what he needs to do, I'll sing his praises overall. If not, I want him out of the job immediately (maybe even during the Season if it looks like we're sub .500 again).

Mark, weaker than some punters LOL

Another terrible low round pick. He's in the pile with pat white a terrible Daniel Thomas and a traded vonte davis

Good morning all,
its been awhile since ive been able to get on here but my daughter was born on Jan 3rd so shes been taking my time up and its my first day back on the job. Hope all had a good new year.

Congrats Matty!

Clue, it's funny cause it's true. I mean Donnie Jones shames Johnathan Martin in the upper body development area. Shames him, quite sad!

congrats matty.

well, long was licking his balls like a k-9 watching martin gets his axx kicked all over the field,
he kno's now irecorn will have to pay him.$
lol

long needs a personal trainer,
he looks like shi+ now
from when he 1st showed ^ at camp davie.

As I informed you 6 days ago, RGIII's tendons were torn completely in half. The Redskins have yet to acknowledge it.

2 watt, that's true. Someone will pay Long - like pass rushers, corners, and QBs - there aren't enough good OTs to go around. that's why they are always overdrafted.

Because he had only one receiver to throw to all year (Hartline), we should thank our lucky stars that Tannehill didn't suffer a serious knee injury this year. (He almost did, a few times, when Long let his man pancake Long flat on his back and then nailed Tanne in the back of the knees.)

decent kid,shame, and i detest the redskins.

y not wallace + jennings,
that would fix a ton of krap on the o.
does the penis w/ glaxxes kno this tho?
keep the guido @ te. he does a ton out there that doesn't show up in the box scores.
just watch him,
u'll c 2.

I work out about 3 days a week, I'm 37 and I have a desk job, and I have a better body and am stronger "pound for pound" than professional $10M man OL Jake Long. Seriously. If Long worked out as hard as I do, put my "build" on his frame, he's weigh 340 of muscle and bench 600.

i'd do f'ing naked back flips + jumping jax if irecorn does ^ 10:43.
lol

You can now take Chance Womack off of your fns draftbord. Kipr's moved his draft stock up into top 5. No "Chance" we get Chancem just like we had no "Luck" with Luck.

and he wouldn't get hurt,
his wife turned him in2 a rolly polly.
i bet she b a heffer also.
lol
that biotch!

Optimist says 7 alternates in the pro bowl this year could be 7 starters next year in the pro bowl.
Pessimist says they are not good enough and not going to get better so lets dump them.
Optimist prevails.

Watch the missed block at 2:39 of this and the result for his poor teammate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diclp2_25ys

pix don't lie.
he looked like he was 400#'s in that superman costume he wore 4 walking dead day.
lol

Ireland has little to do with this Draft. WE tell him what we want. All he has to do is to go up and get them.

Long is jealous of Win's pump! No agony no braggony brother! Ooh yeah!

gb vs. ne = sb.

YG, Chance may drop just because of his position. Chance has been ranked #1 or close to it all year by ESPN (by draft grade).

YG. For someone who doesn't want anything to do with me and from what I just read you spent an awful lot of time talking about me last night.

Here's the problem, as long as there are posters in here like Aloco the phony no one will ever know who is being real. I mean can we all agree that there is more than one regular in here who posts under multiple sign ins using different personalities? Yes, it's obvious to everyone this is happening on a regular basis.

So because of these few a-holes no one can be trusted. I have asked Aloco a bunch of questions about the team. Never once has he answered me, not once! Oh he questions my integrity, posts biggoted remarks about my ancestry, makes things up about who I am as a person, but never once has an actual conversation about the Dolphins.

Yesterday he called me a racist. I asked him to repost my supposed racist remark. He ignored my request and now I see that not only did YG write a bunch of stuff regarding my character, they both waited until long after I left and had a field day talking about me.

Im taking Peyton Manning over Tom Brady for this year's afc rep for the sb. Im basing it on 2 thing:

1. How extremely difficult it is to go to back b2b sb's.
2. No qb has played Bellichik for all of the marbles as many tiomes as Manning and has finally overcome.

Dont you remember all of those famous Manning/Brady playoff matchups and Manning finally breaking thru? Even though Eli's beaten Bellichik twice in sb's Peyton is the guy I would rather have going up against Bellichik for all of the marbles.

Phins78,

Just stfu. Youre a dork. All that you do here is obsess about who's who. Ive posated to you many times not to engage, to ignore them, and now you count me among them.

Dude Im through with you. Dont post to me and I wont post to you. I promise.

T.Y. Hilton and Chris Givens, both productive WRs, both drafted after the genius Ireland picked Egnew.

Phin78,

One last thing. EV1 here knows, if I have anything to say about anyone, its in YG4. I dont hide under other screen names. DD even blasted you for it yesterday.

THIS IS A FREE PUBLIC BLOG. NO ONE'S SEARCHING FOR YOUR APPROVAL OF THIER BEHAVIOR HERE. WHEN WILL YOU F U C K I N G GET THIS?

So YG you typed a lot about the "circle jerk" at Ohios blog. The funny thing is you were saying the same thing under a different name when we were over there. YG never talked about it back then, it was a different name, but now you're typing the same exact rants under the yg name. So either that was you who got his panties all twisted and talked about us every day or you just liked his work so much you decided to copy it word for word. Either way, it's pretty bad.

So I agree, never should we speak again. I don't trust you, you don't like me and that's fine. But also, seeing how this is my only sign in name and the ONLY person I have a problem with is you I am willing to bet not one new name pops up attacking you. Like last night when new names, people I supposedly have never spoken with before, showed up out of the blue to bad mouth me as a person it's pretty obvious what's going on. Lets not play that game. If you are for real like you say than you will ignore me from now on and I won't be getting attacked for no reason by phony made up sign in names.

Phin78,

Go take your paranoid schizophrenic meds son. No one has time for your schizoid episodes here. this is a football blogt, not "One Flew Over The Coo-koo's Nest".

Einstein wrote insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.This is Ireland in a nut shell and Ross is letting this guy with all our cap space and draft picks to do the same as before come up with nothing.So Ross is insane also.We as fans are in for another long yr as long as Ireland is there.

I See Some Are Still Not Happy With Ireland. Some Will Fire Ireland, After March. Some After The Draft. Others After Training Camp. Dashi Will/Might Join The #Fire Ireland Bandwagon, After Pre-Season. Til Then, My Money Is On Ireland.

He Can't Be That BAD!!

The Jets Want His Asst. (Mando, Is Laughing Out LOUD! About Him.)

To Dashi, As Long As They Don't Take Dawn! We Good! Have Fun!!

Ireland Needs A New Talent Scout! I Hear Scott Pioli Is Out Of Work! AJ Smith? Heck, Mike Sherman! Somebody, That Can Actually Add To The Conversation, Not Takeaway.

On Egnew.

I Understand The Motivational Words!

But On Hard Knocks II

Mike Sherman Will Cut!! Egg Head In Training Camp!! Screw Philbin's Office!! In The Middle Of A Meeting!! We All Know If Somebody Was Mad At Ireland In That Draft Room That Day!! It Was Mike Sherman! I'm Not Saying He Is A Genius! But SHERM KNOWS COLLEGE FOOTBALL!! HE KNOWS TEXAS!! He Was A Coach In College The Last 4 Years! Remember He Taught Philbin!

And Sherm Has Produced A Couple First Round Picks, The Last Couple Years! And A Couple More Coming Up!! (Ireland Should Hire Butch Davis!)

From What Anyone has reported, The Fins Have Shown Only Interest In Long And Hartline.

Sounds About Right! If You Want To Start Rebuilding! THE RIGHT WAY!! This Was The Evaluation Season!! Next Season, Is The Rebuild Year! We Got Lucky On The QB and Coach!! Imagine If Sporano and Moore Were Still Leading The Team!! We Woudl've Been ROYALLY SCREWED!! YOU GUYS WOULD'VE GOT YOUR WISH!! IRELAND WOULD'VE BEEN FIRED!! But Ireland Fixed The Problem, Last Year!! This Year! We Feast!

I Would Love To Hear Who Is On The Bubble. Incognito? Carpenter? Burnett? DANSBY?!

Yes, Only Long and Hartline! And I Don't Know About Hartline, He Might Want To Much Money! And Yes, Even Long Has A Price With Ireland!!

The O-Line Needs To Resign Long! Go After The Best Guard In Free Agency! And Sign A Acorn Guard In FA!! Cut Incognito & Fat boy!! Draft A Couple With Some Mid-Low Round Picks!

The Wr's! WE ALL KNOW!! THAT IS OUR BIGGEST NEED! EVEN IRELAND!

Maybe Resign BH, GO AFTER Either Wallace Or Jennings! And Draft At Least 1 Wr Early and Another One In The Middle!!

If We Have 4-5 Wr's! We Don't Need 1-2 Te's!!

A Good-Great O-Line(With Athletic Guards!), 4-5 WR's, T-Sizzle, And Miller & Co.

1- FS
2-WR
2-WR
3- TE
3- LB (Even If Its For Depth!! We REALLY HAVE NO LB'S!! AT MAX WE CAN SAY WE HAVE 2 REAL LB's! THAT's INCL'd DANSBY!)
4-OG
4- LB/DE
5- TE
7- K

Posted by: Fan Since 71 | January 10, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Einstein's famous "insanity" quote also qualifies to those ranting for Ireland's head. "Doing the same thing over and over, expecting different results.

So, in this, Ireland and his haters have in common. LOL...

Mark/DC....

You guys have posted some things about the gym....

SO I wanted to get you're thoughts....

Monday I have an appointment with this guy who runs the local Cross-Fit gym near me....

I decided last OCT or so that taking up Cross-Fit wouldbe a new challenge me me this year....I watched the Cross-Fit olymics and man....those guys and women were in phenomenal shape....I consider myself in really food shape...but nothingg I do in the gym could prepare me for the events they completed...nor the staminia it would have taken to complete them...

My question....

Have you guys ever done Cross-Fit....and if so...how was you're experince...

I work out almost every day...and for some reason I am nervous about my Monday introduction to Cross-fit....


Mike Murlarkey fire by Jaxafter only 1 season.

Poor guy, they hand him a rusted hacksaw, and ask him to make cut-out dolls.

Kris,

Its natural to be nervouse about anything we do for the first time. That's when we have to be like NIKE and "JUST DO IT"! LOL...

YG....

Good advice....and once they get my money...they will have to kick me out of there....

Seems like Phins78 and YG have some sort of beef almost like the 2 PAC and Biggie beef LOL. You know what happen in that beef, both ended up dead, you 2 need to work it out.

He Can't Be That BAD!!

The Jets Want His Asst. (Mando, Is Laughing Out LOUD! About Him.)

Posted by: Dashi | January 10, 2013 at 11:27 AM

Dashi,

The Jets also wanted Sporano...

That's not all I do. I post many , many times regarding everything football. I only post about trolls when trolls are trolling or if bored with endless pre draft analysis. You know that. Thanks for exaggerating. I won't post to you any more, actually you're not going to have to deal with me much until March because until free agency starts there isn't much to talk about and this blog gets repetitive as the "Aloco"character is ( that name some regular in here posts under.)

YG if that's not you than I am truly sorry for the accusation. But one of our regulars in here is playing games and using us as guinea pigs. You say ignore it? How do you ignore it when the very people you have nice conversations with are then switching names and attacking you in the next breath? You can't trust talking to anyone because they could just be setting you up.

I've posted my picture, I have nothing to hide. I post under the same name, every day. When I'm gone, I'm gone. I don't have the time or patience to pretend Im leaving and then change sign in names to act like a different person. Sounds exhausting. And for that reason my trust in this blog is gone. That's why when things don't add up I start asking questions. I don't like wasting my time with phony people, I feel like I've been duped. Im not phony so it bothers me to no end that those people have found a home here.

kris,stick w/ what worx.

If it's a free f&%king blog than I'm free to say whatever the f&%k I want. Including whether or not I trust who Im talking to and whether or not I f%&king APPROVE of their constant douchebaggery. Correct? It's hilarious that anyone would tell someone it's a free blog while lambasting them for speaking freely.

Kris, you have reason to be scared. I haven't done cross-fit (I did PX-90 for a while, similar). No matter what your workout regimen is at the gym (mine is like 1/2 lifting, 1/2 cardio -- treadmill, elliptical, bike, rowing, etc.), that really doesn't get to all the muscle groups and give you enough variable as cross-fit.

My wife started doing something similar with a personal trainer, and it kicks her *ss. Basically next day she can't hardly move because she's sore all over.

So get ready. It's like Basic Training. You'll be ok as far as doing the exercises (since you've been working out), but you'll notice how much you're missing doing a regular workout regimen (unless yours is much more varied than mine).

Let me know what you think after the 1st week or 2.

Posted by: Clue | January 10, 2013 at 11:37 AM

Clue,

I never had any beef with Phin78, I actually tried to help him. You know for yourself that you cannot get "overly-obsessed" with trolldom here. Or it will make you nuts, like Phin78 now seems to be.

He just started "falsely accusing" me of people attacking him. Firsty he tried to act like "he was kidding". Then he started making the accusations more pointed. Enough is enough.

I actually at one time "respected him". Now he just has seemed o have fallen totally off his paranoid schizoid rocker. I tried to warn him not to get "overly-obsessed" with trolldom here. I guess now he's paying the price. Even falsely coming after me, the guy who tried to help.

It wasn't just me YG. You can act like it is but others have questioned you as well. Nice try. I can go on about this as long as you like. Or we can drop it. Your call. Oh and thanks for "helping me". Lol

Let's not harp around how much Ireland messed up on this pick (Egnew) and others. He can make up for it by being agreeive and assertive by picking up a TE in the second round or back into the first round by picking by the TE Zach Ertz from Standford, Vance Mcdonald from Rice or Tyler Eifert Norte Dame.

Dashi,

Saying Ireland should be fired right before/after the Draft is the dumbest thing I heard in my life. Now, I understand those that want him fired NOW (or weeks ago), which isn't happening. But once we get close to FA, then the GM should remain UNTIL the end of next Season and we can evaluate (unless we're 0-6 to start the Season). That means through FA, the Draft, Pre-Season AND the Season. Then Ross will have enough data to be able to fully decide if Ireland deserves to stay or not.

You have insulted plenty People plenty Times here and in Ohio's Blog, YG. Say you are sorry.

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