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GM Salguero's outline offseason plan

My offseason plan for getting the Miami Dolphins to the playoffs in 2013? I'm glad you asked.

First of all, you have to understand I come at this from a multiple-pronged approach. I don't just think the Dolphins are broken on the field. I think they need mending off the field -- as in with their fans. The truth is going to a Miami home game has no special meaning down here anymore.

Sure, the true believers and lifers do it out of loyalty and love for the sport or team. But I want more than that. I want Dolphins home games to be a must-attend events because the team has swag and plays with moxie and life and, yes, has a chance to do something exciting every week.

So if I were the general manager, I would approach this offseason in which the team can have approximately $46.8 in cap space as the Miami Heat approached the 2010 offseason -- the one in which they signed Chris Bosh, Dwyane Wade and LeBron James.

It's an all-in offseason, folks.

If I make the playoffs, I get a contract extension. If not, I'm fired.

That kind of offseason, if crafted properly, is going to create buzz about the team and make for a winning roster. That means the team will look improved before it even plays a game, causing fans to buy tickets. And the team will indeed be improved on the field, causing more ticket-buyers when they actually see the product on the field.

And do not scoff at the need for ticket-buyers. This year the Dolphins had their worst home attendance since 1989. There was no significant homefield advantage at Sun Life Stadium. I want that to change. I want that place to shake -- both literally and figuratively.

So the Dolphins need to be audacious to get people to the game and then need to prove their strategy successful to keep them excited and coming back and part of a home field advantage.

Having said that, my offseason plan would be an all-of-the-above approach. I would look at spending big on quality free agents, I would look at re-signing my own quality free agents and letting the mediocre ones walk, I would look at trades, I would approach the draft with the desire to add playmakers not grunts.

That stuff the Dolphins did last year when they have us sitting on the edge of our seats come final roster cutdown time because of the three or four players they're going to add when those players get cut from other teams?

That's a loser's approach.

That approach means you are relying on other teams' trash to be your treasure. That is going into a sewer and hoping to find a blossoming rose.

The Dolphins not only did that, they expected players such as Anthony Armstrong, Jabar Gaffney and others to be significant contributors. Are you kidding me? That's telling me there was no plan in place and you're making it up as you go.

I want my team to be together after the draft. I want them together most of the offseason. I want them to work and sweat together in the offseason conditioning program. I want them to come together as a team during training camp. I want them winning together in the preseason -- and yes, I said winning. To me, the team must win the first quarter in the preseason when my starters are playing their starters. I don't much care about the final outcome of any game except the third when my starters play into the third quarter. But if you're not winning the first quarter of the other games, something is wrong.

Anyway, I don't want to be adding guys a couple of days before the season opener and hoping they somehow fit the program. That means you don't have a clue about team chemistry. That means your plans went awry. That means you're flying by the seat of your pants.

Winning NFL teams are not constructed by the seat of the GM's pants. Poop is constructed by the seat of the GM's pants. Not great teams.

So what is my audacious plan?

Start with the offense. It has to start there because Miami's offense is terrible.

First thing I do is re-sign wide receiver Brian Hartline. The guy finished with 1,083 receiving yards and a 14.6 yard per catch average. The yardage was 16th best in the NFL. The average was 25th best but ahead of Andre Johnson, A.J. Green, Anquan Boldin, Malcom Floyd, and Pierre Garcon.

He had only one TD catch, but I can think of at least four plays in which he was wide open down the field and was either underthrown or overthrown, killing a handful of TDs. So I see value in this guy. And he stays on my team.

I also want to re-sign Randy Starks because Miami's defensive line is a strength that need not be dismantled. I want to re-sign TE Anthony Fasano at a cheap price to be my blocking tight end because he is not a downfield threat in my offense.

I also want to re-sign Jake Long but he would have to take a cheaper, incentive-laden deal that pays him more if he stays healthy. The truth about Long is not only has his play been declining, but he's not finished either of the past two seasons. My Dolphins will be in the playoffs and if a player is likely to be on injured reserve at the end of the season and not available for the postseason, he's worthless to me.

So Long has to undertand that I want committed players and in his case that means, he'll have to agree to a hometown discount. If he wants to get paid the most he can and be something of a mercenary go elsewhere. Here, he was treated like a king as the first overall pick. He earned more money than any offensive lineman for years and years and years. Here, he didn't quite play up to his salary the last two years.

So if he wants to build on the roots he's laid in South Florida and wants to be part of something special and is truly committed to the Dolphins, he's going to have to play for less here.

Remember the Heat analogy? Wade, Bosh and James took less money in Miami than they might have elsewhere. If it's good enough for them, it has to be good enough for a guy like Jake Long.

If, however, Long is all about the money. He walks. I keep Jonathan Martin at left tackle and I draft the best available tackle sometime in the second or third round to play the right side.

By the way, the free agent tackle business is a two-way street. Sebastian Vollmer is slated to be a free agent. So are Ryan Clady, Branden Albert and others. Maybe, if Vollmer is on the market, I sign him, improve my team and put a hole in the New England Patriots offensive line.

What about the other free agents?

Reggie Bush is a good guy in a tough spot. He's likely to go into a free agent class that includes Steven Jackson, Shonn Greene, Rashard Mendenhall and others. And he plays a position that Miami is already strong in (with Lamar Miller, Daniel Thomas, and Jonas Gray on the roster). So if he wants to come back, it has to be on the cheap.

He's a great leader. He's a great worker. But he's a luxury. And, in the case of Miller, he's something of a progress-stopper.

So I want him on my team. But other teams may want him more. And I'm okay with that.

Sean Smith? Very interesting to me. He was nails when asked to play man-press against big receivers such as Larry Fitzgerald and A.J. Green early in the season. But then he kind of fell off the table in November and wasn't that much better in December.

He struggles with smaller, quicker receivers. He doesn't seem totally comfortable with the Dolphins system.

One publication said the Dolphins are going to put the franchise tag on him. The Dolphins told me that's hogwash. He's solid but not a playmaker. My goal this offseason would be to upgrade at his position and that doesn't mean keeping Smith and paying him nearly 10 times more than he made in 2011 to do it.

I let him walk.

Chris Clemons? Solid but not spectacular. He can stay at a bargain. Jairus Byrd is a free agent and more of a playmaker than Clemons. The Bills are shaking things up so no idea if Byrd is in their plans or if he wants to get away from a team that hasn't made the playoffs in 12 years and is starting over. Just sayin'. Dashon Goldson is also scheduled for free agency but I doubt San Francisco lets him go.

Tony McDaniel? He can stay at the veteran minimum salary with no guaranteed money, otherwise, phfft.

Onto free agency outside the roster:

My goal, again, is improve the offense first and quickly. That means if Mike Wallace or Greg Jennings are available, I sign probably one of them. If all is wonderful and great and amazing and the dollars make sense and I have the opportunity to get both, then I get both.

A four-wide of Jennings, Hartline, Wallace and Davone Bess might be the best four-wide in the NFL.

A three-wide of Jennings, Hartline and Bess or Wallace, Hartline and Bess is pretty darn dangerous, too.

Wallace to me is the priority. The Dolphins need a deep threat. Yes, Wallace bascially only runs 9-routes. But he's the best in the NFL at it.

The reason I add at least one veteran wide receiver (in addition to Hartline) is because I need the offense to be immediately improved. Rookie wide receivers take a while to get it. I need a guy that already has gotten it and is ready to produce the second he hits the field.

GM Armando Salguero passes on Dwayne Bowe. He is not a deep threat. I don't love his target-to-catch ratio (almost 2-to-1) and I'm not sure he's a winner. Plus, the kid wants big, big, big money. No thank you.

I'm looking at cornerback Darius Butler in free agency. He's a former high-round draft pick. He's improving. He is very small. He's very young. He's an excellent person. I like him in nickel situations. He has something he wants to prove. He's from South Florida, so this is the place for him to do it. He also might come sort of cheaply.

Onto the draft:

Yes, yes, yes, the Dolphins should draft the best player available. They have the No. 12 overall selection. And, by the way, I do not trade down in the first round. Miami has enough picks already. I have five picks in the first 90 selections. That's more than enough.

This year is NOT about quantity. This draft has to be about quality.

So no trade down to acquire more picks. It's fools gold when you already have plenty of selections.

Miami's draft needs? It depends on how well I did in free agency. If I got the veteran star WR, then WR probably isn't the direction I'm going at No. 12 unless the quality of that WR is miles ahead of the CB or DE.

I'm going cornerback or defensive end in the first round. Let's face it, the Dolphins need to make more plays on offense and defense. Yes, they need to score more points. But they need to cause more turnovers and make more plays on defense against the opposing passing game.

The defense did a very poor job of giving the offense the football in opponent's territory after a turnover this year. That's one way to get more points, and I'm banking my defensive additions will help in that department.

That's why cornerback and defensive end is so important.

I want CBs that actually, you know, catch interceptions. I'm looking at Alabama's Dee Milliner ornMississippi State's Johnthan Banks (that's how he spells it) as cornerback possibilities.

I'm looking at Texas A&M's Demontre Moore as a pass-rusher, knowing Mike Sherman knows a thing or two about him. I'm looking at FSU's Bjoern Werner as a defensive end. I'm looking at LSU's Barkevious Mingo as a pass-rushing DE. I'm looking at Oregon's Dion Jordan, who at 6-6 and 239 is built like Jason Taylor, as a pass-rushing defensive end.

Look, Jared Odrick was drafted as a 3-4 DE. He's clearly not suited to be a 4-3 DE. He can move inside and the Dolphins can add a DE to compete with Olivier Vernon and probably beat out Vernon as a starting DE. More pressure is necessary from the side opposite Cameron Wake.

Moving Odrick inside might also help get more pressure from the inside.

By the way, New York defensive end Osi Umenyiora will be available in free agency. Pass. He's a 10-year veteran. He's slowing down. He wants to get paid. And the Giants pass rush let the team down significantly this year. Not the answer.

By draft's end, I want to have a couple of corners on my drafted board. I want an early-round wide receiver, assuming I landed a playmaker in free agency. If I sucked in free agency, I better have found a couple of wide receivers in the draft.

I need to find a couple of starting corners. I need a defensive end -- and there are plenty of options. And later on I want to add a tight end because Michael Egnew did zero to make me think he's the answer.

And, of course, I want to fill in later at right tackle (assuming Jake Long is gone and Jonathan Martin is my left tackle) because Nate Garner is a good backup, but I want to upgrade there.

By the way, I said previously that I'm for an all-of-the-above strategy. Well, that includes trades.

It has been reported that Jermichael Finley is on the outs in Green Bay. Apparently, he has maturity problems, his production is down and his work ethic isn't what it can be. So the Packers, according to the report, will either trade or release him this offseason.

Well, Salguero is open to trading for him because Salguero is sick and tired of mediocre tight end play by overachievers and perfers very good tight end play by an underachiever.

This year was a down year for Finley. He caught 61 passes for 667 yards. Fasano and Charles Clay caught 59 passes for 544 yards combined. So Finley has a bad year and he's still more productive than every tight end on the Miami roster because only Clay and Fasano caught passes for Miami.

And he's not worthy of getting? Are you kidding me?

The guy is 25 years old. He was more productive when Joe Philbin was the offensive coordinator -- with eight TDs in 2011. He is valuable in the red zone and he can work the middle of the field.

Give up one of Miami's third rounders for that guy? In a heartbeat.

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On a different note, NFL.com reported that Jets players had doubts about Sparano early on.

"According to Manish Mehta (of NY Daily News), players told him Sparano lacked "creativity and flexibility" in his play-calling with a distinct lack of imagination and innovation."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000121516/article/tony-sparano-reportedly-doubted-by-ny-jets-players

Another team confirming what Dolfans had yelled about for some times. But I'm glad Rex was stupid enough to get him.

DC Dolfin is so smart he wanted us to draft Klowney! (a sophomore)(thats how he spelled it) LMAO!!

This is why I also don't believe in 'personnell gurus,' either. Thy simply do NOT exist.

Is there a better example of that than Pioli?

If I asked you guys if you would have wanted him running the show in Miami just a few years ago how many would have said no? C'mon, be honest. Wasn't he regarded as a 'genius' (the most overused term in sports) and one of the main architects of the Patriots dynasty?

Yet where is that SAME Scott Pioli today? At the helm of the worst team in the NFL, a team that has made countless drafting and hiring mistakes under his guidance.

Or how about Rick Spielman? You guys remember him. A DISASTER with Miami, right? But how many remember that the SAME Rick Spielman was named NFL Executive of the Year just a few seasons later in Minnesota?

Bill Polian? You think having the first pick when the best QB in decades was coming out might just have a *little* to do with success? A table lamp could have made that pick, guys.

Hey, I'm not saying some coaches and/or GM's are marginally better than others but SO much of this stuff has very little to do with them and EVERYTHING to do with the talent around them---and some of that will always be pure, dumb luck or happenstance.

"They," not "Thy."

Not going all Biblical here, guys. :)

WHDP, please clarify Martin having more upside than Long. martin may prove to be a capable left tackle someday but he will never get to the levels Long reached. I'd be happy if Martin could ever be as good as an injured Jake Long was this year.

Jeff Ireland hasn't been fired by the Dolphins? That's the best news I've heard in quite a while.

DC--spreading the OL wide sounds like what every CFL team has been doing for the past 40 years.

Tradition is so smart he spells my name "Dolfin" when on it's RIGHT THERE IN BLUE ON EVERY POST as "Dolfan". He's not even spelling Dolphin right. So, which is it tradition, are you retarded or do you just have sh*t for brains? What Tradition are you a part of, the tradition of being the dumbest living soul on the face of the Earth? LMAO! Moron.

Regarding Tannehill's deepball touch:

There really usnt a nfl qb in the league who hits on even 50% of his deepball throw unless he only throws 4-6 deepballs a year. Then there's a little luck involved with that.

Seeing that our wr's were hardpressed to even get open deep. I dont think Tannehill threw more than 6 deepballs all year. He hit on 2 of those. A 50 yarder to Moore and a 80 yarder to Hartline. Or about 30%.

1 of those 6 deep throws Hartline made a bad adjustment, although the ball could have been thrown "slightly" more accurately. Still its a catch Hartline should have made.

Also, what about the deepball Gaffney dropped?

So, 4 of the six, 7 max deepballs Tannehill threw this year should have been catches.

So basically, when a qb's wr's struggle to get separation and at times has shotty protection, deepball opportunities in itself drastically declines. So how can you truthfully gauge deepball accuracy when you have so few opportunities?

Plus, 30% deepball accuracy is probably a nfl norm, with 40% accuracy probably being considered very outstanding. It's extremely rare a qb finishes with 50% accuracy for an entire year if he threw more than 10 deep passes. I consider a deepball as a pass that travels 40yds or in the air.

"Well guess what momo, it's equally as uncool to come here blogging about a game, acting like your sh*t don't stink, thinking you're some how better or smarter than anyone else."

Whaaaaaa? LMAO, You are as dumb as a box of rocks.

I have 15 mins before I have to leave, you want to debate this like a man or are you just going to keep screaming like a baby who needs a diaper change?

CFL real deal? Seriously? I'm not talking about the circus, I'm talking about FOOTBALL!!!

That was a joke for Mark and them.

Anyway, I'm not a CFL viewer, so you've educated me on something. Tradition (or one of his gay aliases will congratulate you shortly).

I think Tannehill's "accuracy" issues are very overrated. Watch another team play and count the number of times their QB needs to make a perfect pass? I bet you count it on one hand. Tannehill on the other hand - seemed like every throw was contested.

Even Phill Simms said priority one for the Dolphins had to be to find some guys to give Tannehill a chance to make some "easy" plays. Watch Atlanta next weekend. I bet you it will seem a defender is never within 3 yards of a receiver - especially in their dome.

DC..........
IN A TIME WHERE ARMANDO IS A WRITER ,AND DASHI THINKS HE'S THE GOD FATHER OF FOOTBALL AND THE (( LOVE BOYS )) DEFEND EACH OTHER .........

IT'S OK FOR (( TRADITION )) TO MAKE A SMALL MISTAKE LIKE SPELLING YOUR NAME WRONG......

"You see, it's quite fun to pick those people out & call them on it. It's not sad or pathetic."

Well as long as you don't think it's sad and pathetic that's all that matters, don't worry about what the rest of the world thinks. And you're talking about egos? Motherf&*&ing hypocrite, priceless! ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!

Real Deal: You are right about dumb luck or happenstance - but I wouldn't discount Polian making the right decision. Remember that in 1998, Indy had the first pick and had a choice between Manning or Ryan Leaf. He made the right choice.

On the other hand, Parcells had the first pick and drafted Jake Long over Matt Ryan. While one is near broken, the other has had phenomenal years and is leading his team to the SB. I will never forgive Parcells for that. That was not dumb luck or happenstance. That was pure stupidity.

Oh my God it gets better!

"It's rather lame however, to be that guy, day after day, pretending to be smarter than everyone else."

You are sitting here telling people that their posts are lame, that what we do is stupid, and that we should act a different way.

Do you have brain damage? Hypocrite.

And to bring this back to the Dolphins--specifically Philbin and the coaching staff--I really can't fathom how some here can tag him as 'uncreative' or 'unaggressive' when the man was totally handicapped by the lack of precisely the kind of playmakers that ALLOW you to play that way.

Again, it's as if some of you believe in magic wands and pixie dust.

No legitimate downfield threat means just that. You can't WISH for it, you can't HIDE it from defenses. And the lack of that threat, along with subpar TE play and a ROOKIE quarterback means you WILL stuggle on offense, whether your name is Philbin, Cameron, Belichick, or freaking Vince Lombardi.

These are NFL DEFENSES on the other side. Think they don't know how to react to a glaring weakness and shut you down because of it?

Philbin and Sherman both have extensive history of favoring a very aggressive, pass-heavy offense. You can be assured they want the same in Miami. If they get the right talent in place, it will happen. If not, it won't---not for them or anyone else.

Some things really are that simple.

NH, I'm not convinced Tannehill can throw an accurate deep pass anyway. He had a bunch of chances with Hartline, who was wide open, and I think connected once. So, if Wallace can only run 1 route, and that's not one that Tannehill can connect on, what good would that do? That's why I'm not too high on Wallace. Less about him, and more about what QB we have (though I think Tannehill throws other passes just fine).

DC,

Give me a break...That's why you don't sign Wallace???

Almost every QB has a completion percentage lower than 60% as a rookie. Do you REALLY think Andrew Luck is going to stay at 54.1%??? Peyton Manning was at 56.7% as a rookie & Tannehill was at 58.2% okay so get a grip...


YG, I don't know bro. Hartline had STEPS on at least 3 passes I remember. And I don't remember him adjusting. Couple were overthrows. Couple were underthrows (3-4 I can think of).

But, if you're saying he didn't throw enough deep passes, why? Hartline was the one usually running those deep routes (besides the others you mentioned, and yes, I agree, there were drops). Is that on Sherman? Tannehill (remember Mando saying he saw Hartline wide open deep and the ball wasn't thrown his way)? And how would it be fixed with Wallace?

Phins78, you really think you are dealing with a brilliant mind on the other end? lol.

We heard the same excuses for Henne that we are now heaing for Tannehill.

Marv Lecy and Bud Grant got their starts in the CFL, DC.

I'm not saying it's NFL level (duh), but the object of the game is exactly the same and the offense you described has been employed in that league for a very long time.

Simply illustrating it's really not an 'innovation.'

"Levy"

But this is the best part. Calls us egotistical and then says this,,,

"We all know what side you fall on. If you're done being picked on, you won't reply. If you're a glutton for punishment like the others, you will try to get the last word."

So he thinks when we ignore him that we are sad and our feelings are hurt. We're not ignoring him because he's a complete f&*#ing moron, it's because we're "done being picked on". Because his picking on anyone has so much bearing on our psyche. How could we possibly function in our own lives after being picked on by such an intelligent person? And he talks about his alter egos as if they are a group of people who all agree.

:D Merry Christmas to me, I am so happy I came back to read that because it's one of the funniest posts ever written. This guy is severely dain bramaged! LOL!

Gotta go, later. smh and lmao on the way out.

Mark,

I've always thought J. Long was a little overrated but still a very good LT. As you all may remember I was wanting to trade him off leading up to last years draft while he still had pretty decent value. He's good there's no doubt about it. BUT he's not a good fit in our new blocking scheme. I am not sure Martin is a better or will be a better LT than Long but feel he's a better fit for our new blocking scheme. IMO J. Long is better suited in a power blocking scheme.

f you're a glutton for punishment like the others, you will try to get the last word."

Oh please don't punish us! How will we ever recover from your special brand of idiocy? Punishment us,,,hahahahaha what a tool. I have to get the f*&k outta here, brain cells are disappearing as I read. Smoking pot has less of an effect on ones brain then reading some of these comments.

I must say, I cant see ANYONE beating out Dolphin fans for the biggest excuse makers in the world! haha

Mark,

THAT I agree with. I wondered that too watching people play us. Why are THEIR WRs running free, WIDE OPEN, yet our WRs are draped by the defender? Tannehill DOES need some easy passes, just like everyone else.

WHDP, yes, that's why I wouldn't want Wallace. That and the fact that he runs ONE (count 'em, ONE) route, AND then on top of that he drops passes. Were YOU one of the guys criticizing Brandon Marshall here last year for all his drops? Because I gave his a pass since he also caught 100+ for over 1,000 yards. But if all you can do is run ONE ROUTE, then you get no passes for drops.

And I'm not saying this to say Tannehill has no accuracy (though he DOES have accuracy issues). I'm saying it to say that our money can be better spent elsewhere (with say a guy like Jennings, who runs ALL the routes, has great hands, and knows this system back and forth). Even IF he's older, he's probably better for this particular team at this particular time. So THAT'S why I don't want any parts of Mike Wallace.

hahahaha! Last point. Someone who signs in as "the blog" has the nerve to call anyone egotistical.

That post was the most ridiculous piece of crap ever written and I love it! :D


As you all may remember I was wanting to trade him off leading up to last years draft while he still had pretty decent value.

Posted by: Texas_Dolfan | January 03, 2013 at 03:04 PM

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Nope, can't say that I remember that.

Why can't Bess get separation like Welker can?

Sunday's game in NE there were many times when Brady had 3rd & 6 and every person in the stadium knew he was going to Welker.

...guess what, Welker got separation and caught the out route with ease and the first down to boot!

When was the last time you saw Tannehill/Bess hook up on a 3rd & 6 with a simple out route?
Bess has the speed but for some unknown reason cannot get the separation that Welker can on a consistent basis.

real deal, I understand. It's been done before. In some distant land like in Lord of the Rings. Or the Hobbit.

Why can't Bess get separation like Welker can?

Posted by: NHFINSFAN | January 03, 2013 at 03:12 PM

Because he has crap for a QB. Good QB's can throw their receivers open.

My thoughts on Chip Kelly and his O translating to the NFL.

For starters the Redskins and Kyle Shannahan already run a very similar style watch the Rose Bowl tonight and you'll see what I mean. Alot of read-pitch and go out of the spread formation you watch the Skins sometimes and you get the feeling K.Shannahan is a big Org. Ducks fan.

The problem for him is that the team aggressively pursuing him right now is the Cleveland Browns which don't even remotely come close to the personnel Kelly will need. The other is how will his RAH! RAH! approach translate to the Pro Game?? This is Pete Carroll's 3rd go around as an NFL H.C. and common sense told you he had an idea of what to expect.

Saban treated some players like recruits like all his invites to Ricky Williams over to his home for Pizza (I swear it happened and how he talked him back) The rest he tried to mold and it didn't work because he lost sight of the fact he was dealing with grown men of which some made more money than he did.

Jimmy Johnson was the best to translate because he motivated out of fear cracking one hell of a whip like with the Asthma player in 90. He had the team running gassers and asked one player why he was so off the pace of the group and the player said, "Coach I have Asthma" To which JJ replied, "Asthma my A S S get off my field and go over to the Asthma field" Cutting the guy on the spot who was supposed to be his Kicker that Yr. To give one example of what Charles Haley said was HELL on Earth when he contemplated strangling JJ on a flight back from Wash. after a loss with Johnson telling everybody they had to be at practice the next day in an expletive filled tirade after 10 Heinekens.

It's what gives the greatest pause about College Coaches not so much there terminology which alot of times is cutting edge ahead of it's time stuff but how will there ability to relate to there players no longer Teens and Amateurs but grown men and Pro's translate. The great Lou Holtz once Coached the Jets and Nammath has said many times that his RAH! RAH! stuff at 1st was funny then the team just tuned it out.

IMO Bess takes more steps to get into his break than Welker and more steps to get to top speed. Just my opinion but that is why Welker is always open and Bess is sometimes.

must say, I cant see ANYONE beating out Dolphin fans for the biggest excuse makers in the world! haha
Posted by: NFL #1 Scout | January 03, 2013 at 03:07 PM
lmao

Texas, you may be right abotu schemes but I'm not sure what scheme suits Martin best ... maybe flag football. His lack of strength is embarassing.

And DC, real deal the list is mighty long of people who used the CFL as a launching pad to stardom in the NFL. Ironically there have been many who were stars in the NFL who tried their craft in the CFL and fell flat. Dexter Manley and Ricky Williams come to mind right off.

Doug Flutie is perhaps the most successful NFL to CFL player ...

During nearly every game this past season I heard one NFL analyst after another (most of whom actually played the game) praise Tannehill's poise, intelligence and skills while saying he had a bright future ahead of him.

Somebody needs to tell those misguided souls to come here to this blog so they can get all these EXPERT opinions based on years of actual NFL experience and learn how wrong they all are!

NH, I was going to say what mike said (just nicer, wasn't going to say Tannehill was crap). But that's the thing, not sure everyone knew they were going to Welker. Also, check the formations. I remember one where Welker went into motion, then slipped through the guard and the center (maybe it was Woodhead) and no one saw him and he was wide open. There was another one, where Welker was behind another WR or TE (just off the line of scrimmage), and was able to get a clean break and got free for a pass.

So those are the creative things the Patriots do to help their offense (and that I'd like to see Sherman do to help ours).

WHDP, please clarify Martin having more upside than Long. martin may prove to be a capable left tackle someday but he will never get to the levels Long reached. I'd be happy if Martin could ever be as good as an injured Jake Long was this year.

Mark,

Long played poorly this year. Not just for him but for any starting LT in the NFL. PFF had him ranked in the 40's as a Tackle. I believe Martin played as well as a rookie (if not better) than Long did at LT this year.

With that said Martin is 23 years old--& assuming he stays healthy--will continue to improve. However Jake Long will not. The injuries have taken their toll on his body & he's not what he once was nor will he ever be the same player he was in his first three seasons as a Dolphin. He's the reincarnate of Tony Boselli.

From Barry Jackson---"...In fact, Miami is averaging more yards per rushing attempt without Long in the lineup (4.6) than with him (3.8). And there's no difference in sacks allowed per game, either.

That’s why -- barring a change of heart -- the Dolphins are prepared to move on without Long, unless he takes a Miami offer that likely would be topped by other suitors in free agency. The ball will be in Long's court about whether he's willing to take less to sign here. The odds are against that, but we'll see."

Been seeing a lot of empty seats at these bowl games, even the Sugar Bowl last night.

I think the next generation coming up will share little of our interest in pro sports, and it will become harder and harder to get them to actually attend games given the video/entertainment resources available at home.

I see sports fading away in importance in this country. Not that they are really "important" to begin with!

Sorry but I stopped reading Martin played as well or better than Long this year. martin is comedic, pathetic, and weak. Not that I think Long was all world this year but Martin was launched like DJ Jazzy Jeff used to be by Uncle Phil on Fresh Prince by Aldon Smith and also bull rushed by a cornerback. This guy scares the life out of me at LT. I have 50 X the concern he will work out more than Tannehill.

OK I lied, I took a breather than came back to it.

And two of the games Miami played with Martin at LT were against Buffalo and Jax. 30th and 31st in run defenses. I'd be willing to wager they would've done better with jake in there. As far as sacks per game. Jax is the worst int he league in sacks and Buffalo is very average. The only times he faced capable front 7's (SF and NE - he was exposed badly and I mean badly - he looked worse than Wade Smith out there)

Or Wes, sports has to come back to earth and charge reasonable prices for sporting events. When taking your family to one 3 hour sporting event rivals the expense of taking them on vacation for a week - the choice is easy on what to do ...

I Watch Football, take analysts' statements with a grain of salt (whether they played or not). Usually, they watch some film on the team they are covering. We are MUCH MORE ATTUNED to our team than they are since that's all we concentrate on (not saying we know better all the time).

Nate Silver did a study of predictions from the McLaughlin Group show (where a bunch of pundits, generally ex-politicians or political journalists discuss politics of the day) over a period of time. His results were that they were only right 50% of the time. Here, they were experts, and basically were no more right than a coin flip.

So just because you played the game, doesn't make you a GM. Just like you're saying just because we watch on our couch, doesn't make us a GM. Both are correct. Lots of factors go into what makes a great QB. If it were so easy to tell, then teams wouldn't draft busts as much as they do.

Texas, you may be right abotu schemes but I'm not sure what scheme suits Martin best ... maybe flag football. His lack of strength is embarassing.

Mark in Toronto | January 03, 2013 at 03:24 PM

I don't know if you remember the 1st Pre-Season game Vs. the Bucs but there was a play within the 1st five of the Season that night were Bush took an inside hand off and goes between Long/Cogs for about 13 yards. On most occasions a very positive play except for the fact that when Bush took the hand off Martin flies into the picture nearly landing on his QB.

I watched the replay plenty and hoped the problem with Martin was a technique one or needing to get into his blocking stance a step quicker but as the Season has progressed it has become painfully evident this kid has really lacks any real upper body power. So unless we can get him on some PED's during the Off-Season before random testing then he can't man the LT spot at least not now.

Mark, I think YOU should step up bro. Take the initiative. Invite J Mart up to Toronto for a six-week circuit training trip to he can build up his chest. I bet in 6 weeks he'll be benching 250-275 (that's pounds, not stone or kilos). Give him some pointers. Then he'll be able to hold off those pesky bull-rushers. Shall I make the call for you?

"Sorry but I stopped reading Martin played as well or better than Long this year. martin is comedic, pathetic, and weak. Not that I think Long was all world this year but Martin was launched like DJ Jazzy Jeff used to be by Uncle Phil on Fresh Prince by Aldon Smith and also bull rushed by a cornerback. This guy scares the life out of me at LT. I have 50 X the concern he will work out more than Tannehill.

OK I lied, I took a breather than came back to it.

And two of the games Miami played with Martin at LT were against Buffalo and Jax. 30th and 31st in run defenses. I'd be willing to wager they would've done better with jake in there. As far as sacks per game. Jax is the worst int he league in sacks and Buffalo is very average. The only times he faced capable front 7's (SF and NE - he was exposed badly and I mean badly - he looked worse than Wade Smith out there)"

Do you remember the first game when we played the Bills how badly their defense beat up our O-line & shut down the run??? How about the games when Long was lit up by the Texans & then the Raiders??? Or the games against the Cardinals & the Colts??? He sucked this year & if we re-sign Long he's going to get Tannehill killed. Long was never a great run blocker but now he's a liability in pass protection.

Forget Long, Smith, & Bush--they're not good enough to earn more than mediocre deals.

Hook it up DC but I wouldn't be the one training him - I'd send him to Gary Roberts' gym up here in the area. The long time NHLer is one mean MOFO when it comes to working out and has whipsawed many NHLers into fine condition. Our LT would cry like Manny Wright after day one.

Mark,

Give me a break...Aldon Smith had ONE sack on Tannehill!!!

Great, then instead of blocking guys Martin will be throwing punches and get ejected from the game. No thanks Mark, don't want no parts of an NHL trainer.

ONE SACK??? Come on WHDP ... he used Martin as a lawn dart and had two chances to sack Tannehill on that play. One by used Martin as a porjectile to throw at the QB and the other by actually pursuing the QB himself. Are you not seeing what I'm seeing??? He had two opportunities to play against competent front 7s and made historically abd plays both times.

And I didn't even mention how martin false started the play before with the phins in the red zone. Was probably crapping his pants and the next play justified his reason for feeling that way.

And the first game against Buffalo was on the road in a short week and Martin played horribly in that game too. Oakland??? We smashed them .... how many yards did we get running in that game to Jake's side. Come on man, 40% of Jake Long is better than Martin. But no worries, I'm confident the team won't re-sign Long if he's permanently damaged. however I hope that's not the case because Martin is embarassing.

Mark,

If you don't trust my opinion then read what Kuechenberg thinks about Long's playing this year...LOL!!!


From Barry Jackson....'And don’t ask Bob Kuechenberg about the wisdom of paying Jake Long a salary similar to $11 million again. “Get serious!” Kooch said. “If someone wants to pay for a guy that’s had a terrible year, well…”

f4l, i don't remember that play in particular but yeah, if they don't bring Jake back, they better treat that boy's azzz like a pincushion ...

Mark, BWHAHAHAHAH, that comment about Martin being lauched by Aldon Smith like Uncle Phil did Jazzy Jeff was by far the funniest comment Ive read on the board. Kudos!

Mark,

Give me a break...Aldon Smith had ONE sack on Tannehill!!!

We Have Draft Picks | January 03, 2013 at 03:54 PM

Did you watch that game?? We rolled every protection under the sun that way to cover Martin!

And as we wind on down the road
Our shadows taller than our soul.
There walks a lady we all know
Who shines white light and wants to show
How everything still turns to gold.
And if you listen very hard
The tune will come to you at last.
When all is one and one is all
To be a rock and not to roll.

Kooch, the same guy who Jason Taylor told to fukkk off. Kooch has been a miseerable old man for ages for not making any money playing the game and not getting his gold jacket. I don't remember any other Dolphins alum being disrespected by current players like he was.

PS - I don't think he's getting $11M a year cap hit. Not form Miami anyway - maybe Chicago out of desperation.

Those kind of contracts are for QBs and Larry Fitzgeralds and Adrian Petersons of the world. Cleveland might've been stupid enough to do it for Joe Thomas but nobody else will. there are no Johnathan Ogdens in todays' NFL.

Mark,

Martin is 'embarrassing' but Long wasn't before he got hurt??? I honestly don't know what world you Jake Long lovers are living in....If I'm Jake Long or Jake Long's agent I'm praying that someone burned the game film from the Colts game when Freeney took him to school.

there are no Johnathan Ogdens in todays' NFL.

Mark in Toronto | January 03, 2013 at 04:06 PM

Watch Seattle's Russell Okung this weekend and you might get a change of heart. This guy is NASTY! and he used Aldon Smith as his personal whipping boy a couple of Sunday nights ago.

Fact--the play of the O-line improved after Jake Long got injured. Martin is clearly not a RT & he'll be a very good LT assuming he stays healthy.

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