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GM Salguero's outline offseason plan

My offseason plan for getting the Miami Dolphins to the playoffs in 2013? I'm glad you asked.

First of all, you have to understand I come at this from a multiple-pronged approach. I don't just think the Dolphins are broken on the field. I think they need mending off the field -- as in with their fans. The truth is going to a Miami home game has no special meaning down here anymore.

Sure, the true believers and lifers do it out of loyalty and love for the sport or team. But I want more than that. I want Dolphins home games to be a must-attend events because the team has swag and plays with moxie and life and, yes, has a chance to do something exciting every week.

So if I were the general manager, I would approach this offseason in which the team can have approximately $46.8 in cap space as the Miami Heat approached the 2010 offseason -- the one in which they signed Chris Bosh, Dwyane Wade and LeBron James.

It's an all-in offseason, folks.

If I make the playoffs, I get a contract extension. If not, I'm fired.

That kind of offseason, if crafted properly, is going to create buzz about the team and make for a winning roster. That means the team will look improved before it even plays a game, causing fans to buy tickets. And the team will indeed be improved on the field, causing more ticket-buyers when they actually see the product on the field.

And do not scoff at the need for ticket-buyers. This year the Dolphins had their worst home attendance since 1989. There was no significant homefield advantage at Sun Life Stadium. I want that to change. I want that place to shake -- both literally and figuratively.

So the Dolphins need to be audacious to get people to the game and then need to prove their strategy successful to keep them excited and coming back and part of a home field advantage.

Having said that, my offseason plan would be an all-of-the-above approach. I would look at spending big on quality free agents, I would look at re-signing my own quality free agents and letting the mediocre ones walk, I would look at trades, I would approach the draft with the desire to add playmakers not grunts.

That stuff the Dolphins did last year when they have us sitting on the edge of our seats come final roster cutdown time because of the three or four players they're going to add when those players get cut from other teams?

That's a loser's approach.

That approach means you are relying on other teams' trash to be your treasure. That is going into a sewer and hoping to find a blossoming rose.

The Dolphins not only did that, they expected players such as Anthony Armstrong, Jabar Gaffney and others to be significant contributors. Are you kidding me? That's telling me there was no plan in place and you're making it up as you go.

I want my team to be together after the draft. I want them together most of the offseason. I want them to work and sweat together in the offseason conditioning program. I want them to come together as a team during training camp. I want them winning together in the preseason -- and yes, I said winning. To me, the team must win the first quarter in the preseason when my starters are playing their starters. I don't much care about the final outcome of any game except the third when my starters play into the third quarter. But if you're not winning the first quarter of the other games, something is wrong.

Anyway, I don't want to be adding guys a couple of days before the season opener and hoping they somehow fit the program. That means you don't have a clue about team chemistry. That means your plans went awry. That means you're flying by the seat of your pants.

Winning NFL teams are not constructed by the seat of the GM's pants. Poop is constructed by the seat of the GM's pants. Not great teams.

So what is my audacious plan?

Start with the offense. It has to start there because Miami's offense is terrible.

First thing I do is re-sign wide receiver Brian Hartline. The guy finished with 1,083 receiving yards and a 14.6 yard per catch average. The yardage was 16th best in the NFL. The average was 25th best but ahead of Andre Johnson, A.J. Green, Anquan Boldin, Malcom Floyd, and Pierre Garcon.

He had only one TD catch, but I can think of at least four plays in which he was wide open down the field and was either underthrown or overthrown, killing a handful of TDs. So I see value in this guy. And he stays on my team.

I also want to re-sign Randy Starks because Miami's defensive line is a strength that need not be dismantled. I want to re-sign TE Anthony Fasano at a cheap price to be my blocking tight end because he is not a downfield threat in my offense.

I also want to re-sign Jake Long but he would have to take a cheaper, incentive-laden deal that pays him more if he stays healthy. The truth about Long is not only has his play been declining, but he's not finished either of the past two seasons. My Dolphins will be in the playoffs and if a player is likely to be on injured reserve at the end of the season and not available for the postseason, he's worthless to me.

So Long has to undertand that I want committed players and in his case that means, he'll have to agree to a hometown discount. If he wants to get paid the most he can and be something of a mercenary go elsewhere. Here, he was treated like a king as the first overall pick. He earned more money than any offensive lineman for years and years and years. Here, he didn't quite play up to his salary the last two years.

So if he wants to build on the roots he's laid in South Florida and wants to be part of something special and is truly committed to the Dolphins, he's going to have to play for less here.

Remember the Heat analogy? Wade, Bosh and James took less money in Miami than they might have elsewhere. If it's good enough for them, it has to be good enough for a guy like Jake Long.

If, however, Long is all about the money. He walks. I keep Jonathan Martin at left tackle and I draft the best available tackle sometime in the second or third round to play the right side.

By the way, the free agent tackle business is a two-way street. Sebastian Vollmer is slated to be a free agent. So are Ryan Clady, Branden Albert and others. Maybe, if Vollmer is on the market, I sign him, improve my team and put a hole in the New England Patriots offensive line.

What about the other free agents?

Reggie Bush is a good guy in a tough spot. He's likely to go into a free agent class that includes Steven Jackson, Shonn Greene, Rashard Mendenhall and others. And he plays a position that Miami is already strong in (with Lamar Miller, Daniel Thomas, and Jonas Gray on the roster). So if he wants to come back, it has to be on the cheap.

He's a great leader. He's a great worker. But he's a luxury. And, in the case of Miller, he's something of a progress-stopper.

So I want him on my team. But other teams may want him more. And I'm okay with that.

Sean Smith? Very interesting to me. He was nails when asked to play man-press against big receivers such as Larry Fitzgerald and A.J. Green early in the season. But then he kind of fell off the table in November and wasn't that much better in December.

He struggles with smaller, quicker receivers. He doesn't seem totally comfortable with the Dolphins system.

One publication said the Dolphins are going to put the franchise tag on him. The Dolphins told me that's hogwash. He's solid but not a playmaker. My goal this offseason would be to upgrade at his position and that doesn't mean keeping Smith and paying him nearly 10 times more than he made in 2011 to do it.

I let him walk.

Chris Clemons? Solid but not spectacular. He can stay at a bargain. Jairus Byrd is a free agent and more of a playmaker than Clemons. The Bills are shaking things up so no idea if Byrd is in their plans or if he wants to get away from a team that hasn't made the playoffs in 12 years and is starting over. Just sayin'. Dashon Goldson is also scheduled for free agency but I doubt San Francisco lets him go.

Tony McDaniel? He can stay at the veteran minimum salary with no guaranteed money, otherwise, phfft.

Onto free agency outside the roster:

My goal, again, is improve the offense first and quickly. That means if Mike Wallace or Greg Jennings are available, I sign probably one of them. If all is wonderful and great and amazing and the dollars make sense and I have the opportunity to get both, then I get both.

A four-wide of Jennings, Hartline, Wallace and Davone Bess might be the best four-wide in the NFL.

A three-wide of Jennings, Hartline and Bess or Wallace, Hartline and Bess is pretty darn dangerous, too.

Wallace to me is the priority. The Dolphins need a deep threat. Yes, Wallace bascially only runs 9-routes. But he's the best in the NFL at it.

The reason I add at least one veteran wide receiver (in addition to Hartline) is because I need the offense to be immediately improved. Rookie wide receivers take a while to get it. I need a guy that already has gotten it and is ready to produce the second he hits the field.

GM Armando Salguero passes on Dwayne Bowe. He is not a deep threat. I don't love his target-to-catch ratio (almost 2-to-1) and I'm not sure he's a winner. Plus, the kid wants big, big, big money. No thank you.

I'm looking at cornerback Darius Butler in free agency. He's a former high-round draft pick. He's improving. He is very small. He's very young. He's an excellent person. I like him in nickel situations. He has something he wants to prove. He's from South Florida, so this is the place for him to do it. He also might come sort of cheaply.

Onto the draft:

Yes, yes, yes, the Dolphins should draft the best player available. They have the No. 12 overall selection. And, by the way, I do not trade down in the first round. Miami has enough picks already. I have five picks in the first 90 selections. That's more than enough.

This year is NOT about quantity. This draft has to be about quality.

So no trade down to acquire more picks. It's fools gold when you already have plenty of selections.

Miami's draft needs? It depends on how well I did in free agency. If I got the veteran star WR, then WR probably isn't the direction I'm going at No. 12 unless the quality of that WR is miles ahead of the CB or DE.

I'm going cornerback or defensive end in the first round. Let's face it, the Dolphins need to make more plays on offense and defense. Yes, they need to score more points. But they need to cause more turnovers and make more plays on defense against the opposing passing game.

The defense did a very poor job of giving the offense the football in opponent's territory after a turnover this year. That's one way to get more points, and I'm banking my defensive additions will help in that department.

That's why cornerback and defensive end is so important.

I want CBs that actually, you know, catch interceptions. I'm looking at Alabama's Dee Milliner ornMississippi State's Johnthan Banks (that's how he spells it) as cornerback possibilities.

I'm looking at Texas A&M's Demontre Moore as a pass-rusher, knowing Mike Sherman knows a thing or two about him. I'm looking at FSU's Bjoern Werner as a defensive end. I'm looking at LSU's Barkevious Mingo as a pass-rushing DE. I'm looking at Oregon's Dion Jordan, who at 6-6 and 239 is built like Jason Taylor, as a pass-rushing defensive end.

Look, Jared Odrick was drafted as a 3-4 DE. He's clearly not suited to be a 4-3 DE. He can move inside and the Dolphins can add a DE to compete with Olivier Vernon and probably beat out Vernon as a starting DE. More pressure is necessary from the side opposite Cameron Wake.

Moving Odrick inside might also help get more pressure from the inside.

By the way, New York defensive end Osi Umenyiora will be available in free agency. Pass. He's a 10-year veteran. He's slowing down. He wants to get paid. And the Giants pass rush let the team down significantly this year. Not the answer.

By draft's end, I want to have a couple of corners on my drafted board. I want an early-round wide receiver, assuming I landed a playmaker in free agency. If I sucked in free agency, I better have found a couple of wide receivers in the draft.

I need to find a couple of starting corners. I need a defensive end -- and there are plenty of options. And later on I want to add a tight end because Michael Egnew did zero to make me think he's the answer.

And, of course, I want to fill in later at right tackle (assuming Jake Long is gone and Jonathan Martin is my left tackle) because Nate Garner is a good backup, but I want to upgrade there.

By the way, I said previously that I'm for an all-of-the-above strategy. Well, that includes trades.

It has been reported that Jermichael Finley is on the outs in Green Bay. Apparently, he has maturity problems, his production is down and his work ethic isn't what it can be. So the Packers, according to the report, will either trade or release him this offseason.

Well, Salguero is open to trading for him because Salguero is sick and tired of mediocre tight end play by overachievers and perfers very good tight end play by an underachiever.

This year was a down year for Finley. He caught 61 passes for 667 yards. Fasano and Charles Clay caught 59 passes for 544 yards combined. So Finley has a bad year and he's still more productive than every tight end on the Miami roster because only Clay and Fasano caught passes for Miami.

And he's not worthy of getting? Are you kidding me?

The guy is 25 years old. He was more productive when Joe Philbin was the offensive coordinator -- with eight TDs in 2011. He is valuable in the red zone and he can work the middle of the field.

Give up one of Miami's third rounders for that guy? In a heartbeat.

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what's funny about your post Armando is that most folks agree that something really needs to be done and like your ideas of doing something drastic. problem is most have no confidence in the person(s) making those decisions including otherwise you wouldn't be writing this column. so my real question is again why does ross continue to keep him? if he truly wants transparency in this organization that question needs to be addressed before the fan base will return at this point. put a winner on the field and the fans come back. but can the elephant in the draft room actually deliver? NOT!!

Just look how Texas A&M improved when Tannehill left.

Anyways, to the guys who come here to talk football, have a good one!

If I were GM for a year and these guys were available when we picked. This would be my ultimate dream draft at this point.

1. Dion Jordan OLB
2a. Cordarelle Patterson WR
2b. Zach Ertz TE
3a. Markus Wheaton WR
3b. Phillip Thomas S
4. Travis Kelce TE

Montreal,

We are not a good team. I realize 7-9 seems like MAYBE if we got some breaks we could have made the playoffs but it's about consistency over a 16 game season. Clearly our offense doesn't score enough points & our defense doesn't force turnovers to.

Yes we beat the Bengals & we beat the Seahawks but we also got killed by the Titans & the Bills. I TRULY give Philbin a TON of credit for getting this team to win 7 games with a rookie QB & w/o having big money to spend in FA. Bear in mind he did this w/o replacements for Brandon Marshall & Vontae.

DC, 03:46PM, matter of opinion...I KNOW he was contradicting himself but whatever...And if I would live in the area, I would go to games...Hell, I spend 250$ every year so I can watch all their games...But when your last playoff win was over a decade ago, I think it's kind of normal to be tired of losing...And as you probably know, we're not 1 or 2 players away...We need a lot of help...Secondary, Pass rushing, Offensive line, WRs, TEs...That's quite a lot...This is what we're left with from our great GM...

I'm not saying RT does not have a great arm, Draft, just that since College he's been tough to catch by any receiver he has thrown to. What stronger arms than Marino and Elway? However they threw a very catchable ball. It's only an opinion of mine from the many years I've been watching great QBs. With better protection for RT, it might turn out differently. We hope.

5. best CB or Guard
6. best CB or Guard
7. best CB or Guard

Montreal, you're right, you gotta be in it to win it. But, be honest, did you see us going to the SB this year? Even if somehow we made the Playoffs at 8-8? Seriously. I doubt it. And that would mean a lower draft position, a harder schedule next year and a false confidence that the team was just fine and needed to keep doing what it was doing.

That was NOT the case in 2008. The team WASN'T fine. It WAS a mirage to win the division. The fact that it was is how quickly we were bounced (1st game vs. Baltimore). And how easily they beat us, and how poorly we played. Take the Chiefs. Made the Playoffs last year. This year, worst team in the league. They didn't invest in a QB (probably thinking they didn't need one) and we all see what happened. Maybe if they didn't make the Playoffs they would have known they weren't alright.

I'm reading a book about predictions called "The Signal and the Noise." And the thesis is that there's always a signal in a sound prediction, but you have to find it through all the noise (false information). Awesome book, but revealing as a life lesson. Making the Playoffs this year would have been noise, and given us false hope. That's not a fact, it's my opinion.

Build through the draft.

FA are too expensive, and there is a reason why they are FA's. (Too expensive, problematic.)

I agree with resigning Hartline, Starks, and Fasano. I disagree with letting McDaniel, and Bush walking.

Signing both Jennings, and Wallace is also not going to happen. This isnt Fantasy Football.

Using "rookie QB" as an excuse for a losing record is loser talk. Especially when 3 "rookie QB's" engineered huge turnarounds into the playoffs. We had a losing record because we have a crap QB. Lets be honest here.

If I were GM for a year and these guys were available when we picked. This would be my ultimate dream draft at this point.

1. Dion Jordan OLB
2a. Cordarelle Patterson WR
2b. Zach Ertz TE
3a. Markus Wheaton WR
3b. Phillip Thomas S
4. Travis Kelce TE

Texas,

If Ertz who is a redshirt Junior decides to enter the draft he will not around after the 20th pick. I don't care if he's a TE. This kid is too good of a talent from too good of a program to fall to the 2nd round in a draft w/o elite prospects especially with more & more teams relying on multiple TE's.

Same thing will be the case with Eifert from Notre Dame. Maybe not a top 20 pick but he'll still go in the 1st.


You're still upset because this team picked Long over Ryan and for that you blame Ireland and Long, when in reality you should be blaming Parcells.

Posted by: Craig M | January 02, 2013 at 03:30 PM

I never said such a thing so you can continue to ASSume. You are good at that.

Also, the last time I was here I noticed some blogger Andrew ripped you to shreds. I wasn't here the last 2 days. I was with my family. Perhaps you should try the same instead of assinently trying to lecture a blog & defend your secret love Jeff ireland.

I am now noticing however that a fellow Canadian and even the dimwitted Aloco have you figured out. Listen up chumpy, no one here is ripping on me. Most everyone is ripping on you.

You're too dumb to recognize what all of us know. That you're a loud mouthed, incompotent, self abosrbed weenie.

Have a nice day blabbermouth!

Just look how Texas A&M improved when Tannehill left.
Posted by: mike | January 02, 2013 at 03:53 PM
lol

I'd trade down in a heartbeat and take 2 (hard hitting) corners in two of the 1st 4 picks, trade Dansby and D Thomas and let S Smith go. Draft a T.E.-a L.T.- Let Miller and Thigpen be the one-two punch. draft a R.B. in the 4th round. Draft a W.R. on day one depending on the extra pick from trading down, then play the rest of the draft trading the 2 7th round picks to move up. Will we be getting any provisional Picks?- another thing to consider. Sign a new safety F.A. who can catch a ball thrown his way. Not much to ask for. a 6th round field goal kicker? pick up a F.A. pass ruher to play other side from Wake.

DC, couldn't agree more with MOST of your post...But I'm sorry, I'll never, EVER be a believer of losing more so you draft higher. NEVER. Look at the teams that have been dominating the NFL for the last 10 years...The Patriots, Ravens, Steelers, Packers, Giants...They more often than not draft AT THE BOTTOM of every round...Hell, the Patriots trade DOWN probably more than any other team...And yet they find PLAYMAKERS...The opposite is also true, the top 10 teams are usually the same ones as well...Raiders, Jaguars, Bucs, Lions, Bills, Browns, etc...So that tells you that some teams have done an excellent job at drafting while others like ourselves haven't...And that's the difference between playoffs and no playoffs...

Montreal, there we agree, Dolphins have SUCKED and both of us are REAL TIRED of losing. But we sucked long before Ireland. He's the ONLY GM who drafted a 1st-rd QB since MARINO. Doesn't he get SOME credit from you for that?

Look, I'm with you, I wish we had taken Ryan, not Long. But that's water under the bridge. I wish we'd have shored up the offense, since we haven't had a good offense in a decade. I wish we took a chance on Drew Brees. I'd like to draft a QB every year until we find Mr. Right (because I think unless you have an elite QB, you ain't winning squat in today's NFL).

But I've seen good signs. Philbin "seems" like he might be the right HC. Good offensive guy. I've seen glimpses of good, aggressive game planning. I like the staff he's assembled. Hopefully he can develop players better than the past. Our team is younger, and hungrier. We've basically equalled the Sparano years in YEAR ONE. We're utilizing a WCO, which is pass-oriented, perfect for the times we're in. Defense has not diminished either.

So I'm not bitter this year. I'm hopeful. That's more than I could say any of Ireland's other years. So maybe Ireland was brought down by Parcells/Sparano. And maybe he'll be better with Philbin. Right now, it's all speculation. But you gotta admit there IS a possibility that will happen. And that possibility is what gives me hope. I don't see the doom & gloom some of you do.

DC @ 3:24. Heavy doses of scotch or vodka also work to cope ...

Marshall is a beast but not known as true team player....just like his primadonna QB Cutler in chicago...

miami still had fasano, bess and hartline as complimentary recievers and bush is a specialty player that is not going to complemint your #1 reciever as your second option...the talent was better but overall, it was still lacking becuase teams would game plan marshall to where guys like hartline and bess were forced to beat you...AND they Could not!!!

Henne was MR checkdown and a robot in the pocket, he rarely moved around and staredown his targets...Tannehill is light years ahead of henne in terms of QB play but does not have near enough experience nor guys on offense to help him succeed in the NFL....

LOL, nothing to do with your argument with Craig but Martin did get successfully bull rushed by a 185lbs CB I've never heard of before. Now that is some pathetic shite. Like I said, it has nothign to do with internet arguments but this guy is weak ..

You should always question everything, including yourSelfs.

What I take out of the elite teams Montreal is this: YOU MUST HAVE AN ELITE QB IN TODAY'S NFL TO COMPETE.

Very easy. And those teams got them in different ways. Giants had a high pick that year (and lucked out to get Eli). The others took chances on 1st rd QBs. That's the ticket. You have to chance on a 1st-rd QB to hopefully get the franchise QB you need. And then, like you said, you need to draft well throughout the draft, whatever your position.

We'll be a much better team with our franchise QB in place. If it's not Tannehill, we can't wait another 30 years before we draft a 1st-rd QB.

I'm not saying RT does not have a great arm, Draft, just that since College he's been tough to catch by any receiver he has thrown to. What stronger arms than Marino and Elway? However they threw a very catchable ball. It's only an opinion of mine from the many years I've been watching great QBs. With better protection for RT, it might turn out differently. We hope.

I disagree though. Most of the time he throws a very catchable ball & the location of the throw is good. However, sometimes the ball is a little behind the receiver or a little too high or a little too low. This is when all the Tannehenne people come out from under their rocks. That's what I saw this year & it's a good reason why he didn't complete more than 60% of his passes.

When I watch the elites--Brees, Rodgers, Peyton, & Brady--the ball placement is perfect when they get protection. Can Tannehill get there??? B/c of his inexperience I believe it's just too early to tell on Tannehill BUT it's not too early to tell on Andrew Luck or RG3. If those guys stay healthy (& I don't think RG3 will) then it's just a matter of time before they pick defenses apart.

Mark, I also stated months ago that Martin's weakness is well, WEAKNESS!

He needs time to bulk up & get stronger. Everyone knew that when he came out of the draft. Everyone said he was a ready to start RT but, needed some time before he starts at LT.

The play you refer to had more to do with technique than strength. No one said the guy is a premier LT today.

What alot of us are saying is that he is doing no worse than Long did & he won't be asking for millions & millions of $$$ over the next 5-7 years.

Martin will improve, Long will not. That's just Mother nature. Martin makes 10 times less than Long will make & offer very similar production.

That's the point & the one that your block headed fellow country man doesn't seem to grasp.

Martin may not be completely ready as of today but, he can get there. Long is not getting back to where he was. I'd venture a guess that the best Long can get back to is the best Martin can offer us in the future.

If that's the case, why should Long be resigned? A logical thinking human being would see the point being made & not just ignore it because he refuses to part with the former #1 pick.

LOYALTY DOES NOT TRUMP COMMON SENSE!

The significance of the number 13 in this years calender number cannot be understated be afaid and make peace with your demon's.

DC, 49ERS dont have an elite QB. Neither does Cincinatti and guess what there in the playoffs.

Pretty good analysis, but conspicuous in its absence is any mention of the role of acorns.

Bullsh%t DC, If the wets had julio jones and roddy white as their top recievers, you couldnt tell me that the jets offense as bad as sanchize is at QB, he wouldnt have had success as a QB in this league??....

Texas, your first three picks, that would be awesome.

If RT doesn't work out, there's always Devlin, a very accurate QB, perfect for the WCO. I just don't see us drafting any QB in the high Rounds.

Oscar, i remember Marino whipping into RBs on several throws in the flat, watching them drop it then him yelling at them. He was known to overthrow several touch passes in his career

Luck, RG3, & even Russell Wilson were more polished products & better prepared than Tannehill as rookies. I know we took Tannehill at 8 (two rounds ahead of Wilson) but the truth IMO is that we 'reached' based on his potential to develop into a good NFL QB & b/c Sherman was our OC.

No one expected Tannehill to begin the season as a starter so I believe he still exceeded most people's expectations. You look at some other young QB's around the NFL like Locker or Ponder or Gabbert & I believe he's WAY ahead of those guys.

I dont consider Andy Dalton, Kepernick, Flacco, or even Matt Schaub elite QBs....but guess what they all have in common, playmakers on offense that say they dont need to be GREAT..just good enough!!!!

We Have Draft Picks,

I agree that he may be gone but in recent drafts TE's have slipped into the 2nd more. So I would say he's an early 2nd round pick. In which case I would shift some things after pick 2a. BUT in all reality most of the guys I would want may be gone. the most realistic is Wheaton and Kelce.

And I do realize Ertz has not declared.

As far as Eifert goes, he'll be the first TE off the board. there are mixed reports as to him declaring or not at this time. Walter Football has him as going to the NFL this year but I have not seen that any where else.

WHDP, Texas,

Agreed that Ertz would probably not be around in the 2nd round. This mornign I brought up the possibility of leveraging our volume of picks to trade up.

1. trading both our 2nd picks to move up into the first

2. trading both our 3rds to move up into the second

I see the real need on quality v volume and would forego those two 3rd picks just so we can get another pick in the first.

Your thoughts? (I do realize you may have to leverage additional picks but the meat of the trades should be in what I suggested)

We'll be a much better team with our franchise QB in place. If it's not Tannehill, we can't wait another 30 years before we draft a 1st-rd QB.

If franchise QB means that we have a QB that can win 10 plus games a year & make the playoffs then I believe it will be Tannehill. He's not the next Peyton Manning & he's not going to be as good as Andrew Luck but that still doesn't mean he can't win a SB. He can be every bit as good--if not better--than Flacco.

Ireland has the ammunition to go even into the First Fives, if need be. We'll see.

Oh, here we go, EVERY TIME someone makes a GENERAL statement, that is GENERALLY right, someone else wants to come up with an exception. Listen tools, sure there's an exception to ANY GENERAL RULE!

But Clue, 49ers BENCHED their QB, so they hopefully could get better QB play. So they are TRYING to get that elite QB. And to use them as an example of team not needing elite QB play to make the Playoffs, that's just a joke. They have the NUMBER ONE defense in all of the league. Much like the 2000 Ravens. Even still, they probably won't go to the SB. WHY? Because they STILL need that QB. So you're post really isn't an exception. Also, Cincy's made the Playoffs BOTH of Dalton's years in the NFL. He may not be "elite" in your evaluation, but he's pretty damn good in mine.

And PHIN, yes, that's EXACTLY what I'm saying. Sanchez would STILL be a scrub with those 2 WRs. Henne had BRANDON MARSHALL, ProBowler, did that make him suddenly magnificent? An elite QB can make a mediocre WR better, but the opposite isn't true. A mediocre QB will ALWAYS be mediocre no matter WHAT WR he's working with.

I dont consider Andy Dalton, Kepernick, Flacco, or even Matt Schaub elite QBs....but guess what they all have in common, playmakers on offense that say they dont need to be GREAT..just good enough!!!!

Super,

Agreed. Alex Smith would have been in the SB last year if that KR/PR Kyle Williams didn't blow that game.

Armado:
You really think the QB situation is good ? I do not have very much faith in Tannehill, the only game or two that I thought he played good was against Az,and Oakland ## I think every GM should go into each Draft taking a QB, if anything it would make for a great trade down the road .

I dont consider Andy Dalton, Kepernick, Flacco, or even Matt Schaub elite QBs....but guess what they all have in common, playmakers on offense that say they dont need to be GREAT..just good enough!!!!

Posted by: superPHIN | January 02, 2013 at 04:22 PM

Yeah, and NONE of those QBs has gone (or won) a SB. Montreal was talking about teams who all HAVE WON (Ravens pre-Flacco). So, if you're goal is just to make the Playoffs, sure, you can get a guy who's good enough. But if you want to win a SUPERBOWL, in TODAY'S NFL, then you need an elite QB. And look at the last 5-6-7 SB winning teams, and you'll see that's a FACT!

LOL, not sure Martin is the equal of Long as you said and not sure if the bull rush by a guy 125 pounds lighter was a problem with strength or technique but regardless the Dolphins will have to invest in the o line with or without Long. Not sure where the final numbers will fall for long but if Jake signs for 7m a year give or take a mill, I'd sign him in a heartbeat. And martin can play RT for another 3 years where you are right, he did ok.

Bottom line is we are better with jake and if we can fit him in with a decent number then he should be back. Now if Chicago craps all over themselves to get him, then that changes everything.

Agreed DC, not sure what elite is anymore but Dalton is a top 10 qb in this league. That guy is good.

DC, I challenge you to name one Elite QB out there who doesnt have doesnt have a bunch of playmakers on their team in the playoffs right now???


..and I triple challenge you to name one of those QBs in the playoffs right now(the likes of Matt Schaub) to expect the same success here in miami with the likes of hartline (6 TDS in his career) and guys like bess and fasano leading the way....

AND then sit there and say with a straight face that this team would be in the playoffs today????

WHDP, Texas,

Agreed that Ertz would probably not be around in the 2nd round. This mornign I brought up the possibility of leveraging our volume of picks to trade up.

1. trading both our 2nd picks to move up into the first

2. trading both our 3rds to move up into the second

I see the real need on quality v volume and would forego those two 3rd picks just so we can get another pick in the first.

Your thoughts? (I do realize you may have to leverage additional picks but the meat of the trades should be in what I suggested)

Mark,

Honestly...I'd do whatever it takes to get what we need & we NEED a top flight TE or WR. I don't care who we sign in FA I believe it's essential that somehow, someway we wind up with Ertz or Eifert or this WR Allen from Cal.

Last time i checked, all mentioned QBS have yet another chance to win a sb for their team this year....is that not what counts more DC...being able to compete for an actual championship..thats more than miami fans ever has to say year after year of piss poor finishes and situations that put them home for the playoffs yet again!!!...

For some reason I can't post anything!

I dont consider Andy Dalton, Kepernick, Flacco, or even Matt Schaub elite QBs....but guess what they all have in common, playmakers on offense that say they dont need to be GREAT..just good enough!!!!

Posted by: superPHIN | January 02, 2013 at 04:22 PM

Yeah, and NONE of those QBs has gone (or won) a SB. Montreal was talking about teams who all HAVE WON (Ravens pre-Flacco). So, if you're goal is just to make the Playoffs, sure, you can get a guy who's good enough. But if you want to win a SUPERBOWL, in TODAY'S NFL, then you need an elite QB. And look at the last 5-6-7 SB winning teams, and you'll see that's a FACT!

DC,

I think Big Ben is definitely elite but I've watched Eli play for the Giants since the day he was drafted & other than two UNBELIEVABLE playoff runs I really don't consider him an elite QB. I know that may sound odd but watching he's just not consistent enough to be be considered elite. He's not as good as Tom Brady but yet the Giants beat them in two SB's.

Hi Guys and a very Happy New year 2013 to you all faithful Dolfans. That game in New England was painful to watch and courtesy of Patriots it did mirror all Miami dolphins weaknesses .
It is all back to the drawing board for Ireland and Co,
2013 will make or break him for good .
He has the wallet power ( spend it wisely on FA) , he has the draft picks at its disposal , tough choices to make so study your films, get the right scouting reports on those college boys ( we want committed football players and non-injury prone pls), getting good depth at key positions.. Paramount....Tannehill is the real deal, give him the supporting cast that he deserves( OL WR and RB)and he will keep on improving, of course he will never be Dan Marino.
It is all very complicated right now and the path is quite murky but let's hope the man on the hot seat(Jeff Ireland) will get things right , we will soon find out if he's learnt from his past mistakes ( can you teach an old dog new tricks).....By April's end we'll all know......

I think the Giants defense played just as big of a role as Manning did in those victories also...just sayin!!!

Mark, Long was not even an average LT this season. Let's face it. He just wasn't very good.

He's always injured. Hasn't finished a year in the last 2. 3 years ago, he played with a seperated shoulder.

The mans body is falling apart. I don't understand why you fans act as if we can't live without him.

Also, why do none of you factor in that he is NOT what WC offenses look for in LT's. Long is a mauling run blocker. He is not a fit in the WCO.

Yes, we need to keep rebuilding the line because Ireland & Sporano were morons! Martin & Pouncey are the only ones with a future.

Incognito has always & will always suck! I don't care how mean n nasty he is. it doesn't change the fact that he isn't very good & is a statue. NOT a WC guard.

Neither is Jerry. Change in philosophy leads to a change in personnel. if Jerry & incognito OBVIOUSLY don't fit, why do you have to make Jake fit? HE DOESN'T. In skill set of financially!

You do not invest $1 M, let alone $7 mil on a broken down player who doesn't even fit your system.

Martin played about as equally as Long did. The difference is MONEY & YOUTH.

Martin is cheaper & has a chance to improve. The odds that Long finds the fountain of youth & his body mysteriiusly stops breaking down are slim & none.

It's investing in players like this that prevents Miami from being able to address other areas.

Everytime I drop a post a couple of paragraphs long it doesn't post for me. Been trying to post that the Chargers were able to coax Ron Wolf out of retirement. The significance is I agree with Mando and have been posting Mike Wallace for a week now along with Jennings as the 2nd best option and Finley at T.E. but need an architect type who can aside from make the offer sell players on the org. like Wolf did with Reggie White back when nobody wanted to go to G.B. then traded for Farve flipping the fortunes of that team from then on forward.

Armando, if you were GM would you draft a 1st rd QB?

Fin, I think Keller would be alot cheaper & equally as good of an upgrade as Finley.

I think Finley's asking price will be alot higher than Kellers. No need to overpay. If used properly, Keller can be a great weapon.

Don't think he was used real well in NY, ever!

LOL, it's not so much that we can't live without him, it's jsut that if we let him go - at minimum we will ahve to invest heavily in free agency (or a top pick - do any of us want to see that again???) on an OT (I would assume RT). And bottom line if we are going to invest heavily in another OT, I'd just it rather be one of our own and a guy who is established here. In addition, having Jake back improves two positions (LT and RT) while signing a RT just improves one.

And if jake was avg at LT this year - then Martin was abysmal - a joke - not NFL caliber. He was ok (but still pushed back by Buff and Jax) but he was atrocious against the two good teams he faced in Sf and NE. I don't know how you can feel so comfortable with that guy - he scares the crap out of me.

Mando,

For once, I agree with you! A pass rushing DE &/or CB needs to be taken with the first overall pick. That's the most value at #12! And, would do the most to help this team.

Ireland likes to double-up on positions of need. And, I expect this draft to be no different.

One area that you did not mention, that I think should be addressed in this draft; we need another Linebacker!

Great post, Mando! And, I hope that they follow your suggestions...for a change!

GO FINS IN 2013!!!!

Mando,

For once, I agree with you! A pass rushing DE &/or CB needs to be taken with the first overall pick. That's the most value at #12! And, would do the most to help this team.

Ireland likes to double-up on positions of need. And, I expect this draft to be no different.

One area that you did not mention, that I think should be addressed in this draft; we need another Linebacker!

Great post, Mando! And, I hope that they follow your suggestions...for a change!

GO FINS IN 2013!!!!

BOYCOTT THE FINS UNTIL IRELAND IS FIRED! WE'RE SICK AND TIRED OF THE LOSING! WE'RE SICK AND TIRED OF HIS CLASSLESSNESS AND INCOMPETENCE! HELP MAKE THE CHANGE!

Didnt you just know Ireland would bring us another Chad Henne? LOL

Hell hath truly frozen over. This is the first time that I have completely agreed with Armando. The thing I almost disagreed with was letting Sean Smith walk if we could get him cheap but I'm amazed at what Patterson was able to do in such a short time with the team, when I watched that Smith became expendable in my mind. Even if Patterson isn't the answer, seeing him play at a higher level than Sean has ever played after 3 practices mean there has to be better than Sean out there, it may not be as hard to replace the position as I once thought.

But the stategy was pretty much my thinking. NO TRADE DOWNS! We DO need quality over quantity, that's very important. The other big point I loved and have been thinking as well has to do with getting fans excited again. That means making some moves in the offseason to improve the offense. We need to be dynamic, exciting, Wallace would be a HUGE get.

My only change, and I don't disagree with Mando but if we do shore up the wr position in free agency I use a higher pick for a TE. Unless the Finley thing came to fruition.

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