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My take on Ross, Wallace, Jennings, Bowe

As you know, Stephen Ross spoke on the state of the team Monday. And I came away from the talk absolutely certain that the Dolphins have some sort of plan for 2013 -- because the owner mentioned this plan half-a-dozen times.

But when I asked him what that plan is, I was disappointed to hear the answer Ross gave. 

No, as I write in my column in The Miami Herald today, I didn't intend to hear a blow-by-blow of what the Fins are about to do. I was, however, hoping for something beyond, "Win."

Frankly, I left Monday's talk not knowing if the Dolphins -- a team with approximately $46.8 million in salary cap space this offseason -- are expecting to be a big player in free agency or not.

In one breath, Ross said he'll pay whatever it takes to get a player. In the next breath he said free agency is not the answer. Sooo, the message was a little garbled.

I guess I'm just a poor immigrant that no understandy Inglich goot.

After writing my column Monday evening, I heard from a Dolphins employe in the know who told me the Dolphins will absolutely dive into free agency and happily pay top dollar for top-tier talent in free agency. He told me that is what Ross meant to say.

I hope that is true.

We'll see.

I hope the Dolphins pick the best deep-threat receiver in free agency and sign him. Yes, that to me would be Mike Wallace. (And yes, he drops some). But I like the idea of Miami not needing 14-play drives every time on offense to score touchdowns. This team needs a 50-, 60- and 75-yard bomb over the top of the defense every once in a while.

Explosive plays on offense make me write happy.

Most great teams have them.

The Dolphins have very few.

Mando unhappy with few.

Anyway, I suppose a guy like Greg Jennings is also a possibility, but while fans have a growing fascination with him, I'm not quite sure he's the deep threat Miami needs. Don't get me wrong, he's very good. If Miami cannot land Wallace, he's he next best answer.

If Miami lands Wallace and Jennings ... awesome.

But he would not be my priority. He'd be No. 2. He's older than Wallace by three years. He's going to be 30 next season. He's been injured. He's declined his last two years. And he'll be very expensive. So I see some red flags.

Yes, Wallace has some flags, too. But they blur to me as he's running a 4.3 past defenders. To me, he needs to be the UFA priority once free agency opens, assuming he's on the market.

Many of you also like Dwayne Bowe. Pass.

He's not a deep threat. He's also older than Wallace. He kind of reminds me of Brandon Marshall. And that didn't get the Dolphins in the playoffs.

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No way in hell we need another got daym OL in the first round. Some of you pathetic Dol-fans want Warmick. LMAO just pathetic

Rob, Warmack also neutralizes one of our divisional nemesis in Vince Wilfork. If I never have to see his fat wife texting during games after her fat husband makes a fumble recovery and hands her a ball - i will be one happy man.

Truth, I know you are little challenged upstairs but the drafting of Warmack (who has Hall of Fame potential) would be akin to Baltimore drafting Haloti Ngata in a similar position way back when. No, he doesn't score touchdowns either but he's had a huge impact on the outcome of many.

Lies, no one cares about your biased opinion....

I'VE BEEN SAYING IT ALL YEAR AND WILL CONTINUE TO SAY IT THE #1 FA CHOICE SHOULD BE MIKE WALLACE. FORGET JENNINGS UNLESS WE CANNOT GET WALLACE. JENNINGS IS INJURY PRONE AND OF COURSE OLDER. THE DOLPHINS NEED A PLAYER WHO CAN MAXIMIZE THE TALENT WE ALREADY HAVE(TANNEHILL,HARTLINE,BUSH). DRAFT A GOOD TIGHT END AND TWO COVER CORNERBACKS AND I SEE THIS TEAM MAKING THE LEAP TO 10-11 WINS. WALLACE PREVENTS TEAMS FROM STACKING THE BOX AND HE STRETCHES THE FIELD. PITTSBURGH HAD THERE CHANCE LAST YEAR TO RESIGN HIM AND DID NOT. THE DOLPHINS CANNOT AFFORD TO ALLOW A TEAM IN IT'S DIVISION TO SIGN HIM. IF THE JETS DID THEY DESPITE THEIR PROBLEMS WILL HAVE PAST THE DOLPHINS! (I DON'T THINK THEY CAN AFFORD HIM) THIS IS THE DOLPHINS CHANCE TO MOVE FORWARD LET'S PRAY JEFFY DOESN'T SCREW IT UP!! I DON'T THINK HE WILL.

Truth,

Why you come across as quite the level headed person...

My last post I gave a scenario to get ONE OF THE FASTEST GUYS IN THE NFL ALREADY.

Added one of the tallest, fastest WR in college football in Hunter.

Added a FA TE that may be only a touch behind freak SF TE Vernon Davis in overall speed and agility.

Oh, and throw in a world class Guard to blow holes in opposing Defenses and give Tannehill a second or two more to find said offensive upgrades.

What's the hullaballoo about?

Like you will find out as the draft plays out...there are not a lot of super blue chip TD makers in this draft. This draft is absent the Mega-tron type WR or Adrian Peterson all the tools RB.

I.E. Where the Fins draft they need to get the best player they possibly can and not reach to put a WR there that should be chosen at 24-30.

Just sayin'

Cheers,

I gotta agree with Truth.....

C'mon Mark....C'mon blog....

1st off.....these guys won't be playing together for the next 10 years because if they are good....they will be to expensive to keep after the rookie contract.....

In the meantime.....

The Packers will be drafting Clay Mathews types.....

The Pats will be drafting turn over machines like Donta Hightower.....

And the Steelers will find another Mike Wallace burner.....

And we will be talking about wether this Womack kid is worth the money because he has been injury prone the last 2 years of his contract.....

It was ONE GAME that you guys watched last night.....

A highly efficient AL. squad against a highly overrated ND team.....

None of you gave a Dam about Womack or Lacey 24 hrs ago......

Stick to what we know.......this team is SLOW....and lack PLAYMAKERS....

Let's start FA and the draft there.....

I hate o-line picks also, but "update" Truth, there is a o-line on the field at all times, and most of the teams in the playoffs have great protection for a QB that never gets touched and has a year in the pocket. Manning, Brady, Rodgers, Ryan, ect...

CommonSense, you are missing my point. You cant have a QB drafted #8 in the 1st rd and then starting day 1, and say he wasnt ready for the NFL.

How many wins did Jake Long get? How many did Pouncey get us.

If he wasnt ready then both Ireland and Philbin blew it.

BTW, I am not saying I want an oline pick in the first round. I do think we should pick the best available.

I didn't say he wasn't ready for the NFL. Pointed out he didn't have a lot of experience. Two different things. ALso that was because someone was comparing Hennes (4yr college) 2nd year to Tannehills rookie...

You guys make me phsycially sick! Mark dumb a z z is now saying that Warmack may be HOF potential and hes still in college. BWHHAHAHA. And he can netralize Vince Freaking Wilfork! Wilfork will toss Warmack on his a s s. Mark what the h e l l are you smoking in Toronto??

I dont think I agree with Warmack at 12. He's great, but 12 is just too high for a guard. Weren't people going nuts here when we took Pouncey at 15?

NeMo, by you ppl you mean the likes of truth. Pouncey is an all pro center...

Kris, what if the prime pass rushers are gone - Moore, jenkins, Woerner, and Jordan.

What if we are staring at Warmack or Dee Milliner as the best players on the board or an underachieving DE like Mingo or Montgomery?

Would you not condone Warmack then??? I much rather have him than Milliner or any of the B+ DEs in the draft.

And by the way, I mentioned Warmack months back in a convo with Dashi, and we talked about it for a bit. You just don't remember or didn't read it. Also talked to a few other bloggers about him. Anyway ... our O line needs urgent attention. As it is, we have a Chicago bears o line and that just doesn't work when you start playing important games. Rob's offseason plan sounds awesome to me. If indeed the Dolphins did that to their offense, I would be extremely happy.

If two players are similar, then yes you go for the pass rusher, if not, then take the G.

Rob your scenario isnt so bad except Hunter wont fall all the way to the second round. OUR OFFENSE SUCKED, we need guys who can score TD. A guard can be taking in the 3rd round somewhere. Im tired os spending these prem picks on fat f u c k e r s who dont score any points

Mark, I swear you must be on crack. Warmack, WARMACK! I need to get out of here before I bust a blood vessel dealing with some of you morons.

Commonsense, I agree with you on Pouncey being great. I love the Pouncey pick now even though I didn't love it when it happened, Ireland was correct. I just don't want a GUARD at 12 overall after we just took a center 15 overall.

Pouncey isnt event better than his brother. On top of that since when was a C an important position in the NFL. Who are the 49ers, Falcons C without looking it up. EXACTLY!

Kris,

Uh....I think I covered your post at 3:26 fairly well.

I did "give a damn" about Warmack before the Bama Vs ND tilt as I am always on the lookout for any and all means necessary to upgrade the Fins. You have to admit it was a great effort on a huge stage that put a serious stamp on his career at Alabama, no?

I believe the last game vs NE further highlights how we have to have better line play in order to compete with the NE's/Denver's of the AFC NFL world. Tannehill got lit up a lot in that game.

If the Fins ended up getting Wallace it wont matter if he has a 5 yard lead on the DBs if Tannehill is already on his back. Or even if he is running for dear life trying to throw that magic pass outside the tackles and past the LoS for no intentional grounding call to be made.

Can you drop some names and fill us in on your "ALL TD'S ALL THE TIME" program?

Cheers,

Mark.....

I liked you're plan from last week much better....

Draft the dominate pass rusher....and then trade back into the 1st rd....and get a playmaking TE.....

I like that plan better....

I'm talking about projections here, numbnut. He has the highest overall draft grade according to Scouts Inc. (who you may criticize but know more about scouting than you or I combined). Well he's tied with Star Lotulelei, Luke Joeckel, and Damontre Moore (I think). I'm not saying I would take him top 5 obviously, but if he's sitting there at 12 and there's been a run on pass rusher's - he may be the pick.

And doofus, sorry but we aren't going WR or TE #12 anyway. It's either going to be DE, OL, or CB (possibly LB). So we aren't getting your touchdown maker @ 12 anyway because he just isn't there. GOT IT?? To me, Warmack is a lot better than some fo the other possible options.

It's been clearly estabished the weed in the Toronto area is wicked good. Just read some of the jargin from Craig & Mark.

Maybe Canada ain't so bad afterall!

On how o-line men winning games, Look at New England, Brady is great and wins when no one is hitting him. If he has a game were he gets happy feet they lose. It is a team game. Good o-linemen are VERY important. Again, not wanting to draft them early either, because it is not flashy, but yu need to have a good o-line to be consitantly competitive.

Craig M @ 3:10,

Agreed. I actually am surprised Mando is trying to get anything verbatim out of anyone's mouth as the Fins are in full blown subterfuge mode.

I mean, I know he wants more ammo for more articles but there will be a whole lotta nothin being said between now and after the draft on that very subject.

If anything, I think the Raiders may be able to have a case in court as I think his answer was very close to the late Al Davis's trademarked "Just win baby." LOL

Cheers,

NeMo, I agree its not the sexy pick. But a stacked line is a great spot to start building from. Depends on FA as well where the draft day need will fall. You could make worse moves.

Truth.. I like how you used the 49ers as an example.... Look up their draft history. They hate drafting linemen don't they?

Yea lets draft Warmack, trade our 2nd and 3rd rounder for another 1st rounder than draft Barret Jones the C from Alabama, move him over to Guard then with the rests of our picks sign another LT, then a RT for depth. Great right??

The fact that we can go DE, OL, CB, LB, WR or TE with the 1st round pick tells you all you need to know about the state of the roster.

Good teams go into the draft with 1 or 2 holes & draft best players available after filling those needs. Miami will be looking AGAIN, for day 1 starters from the 1st pick until the last & even into undrafted FA's.

Pathetic.

Kris, I'd like to get the premium pass rusher at #12 too then trade back up into the first round.

But the scenario I'm talking about is if the top 4 pass rushers are gone?? I really don't like Milliner, man. And I don't want the third best LT in the draft either.

CommonSense, drafting another got daym OL in the first round will be the demise of this franchcise. Thats all Im saying

If you have noted carefully, everything I write, either in Politics, Sports or General, is carefully designed to preserve Internet and maybe better It. Everything else is superflous as there is no turning back.

CommonSense, i was laughing at that Sf reference too. 4 first round picks on their o line ....

Oscar, no one has noted because no one gives a crap about the incoherent drivel you post.

Sorry, 3 first round picks, but you get the point ..

Hi all,
New poster but long-time reader. I know the mantra is "build through the draft" but one concern I have is whether a rookie receiver can really benefit Tannehill's development. Rookie WR's generally take a couple of years to find their swagger, with some exceptions. While I definitely agree to focus primarly through the draft, it may make sense to pepper in a solid to good player via free agency, particularly at WR or TE to help Tannehill. Other "good" teams have added free agents in the past with success (see Moss to New England, Farrior to Pittsburgh, Boldin to Baltimore)..


Haha, Yeah. I wonder how many times these guys have to be proved wrong.

Anyway outtie for the day. Have a good one.

Mark, I simply said name there C?? Can you without googling it huh punk. I doubt it

Pittsburgh, 2 firsts and one second pick on their o line ...

Mark, I'm wondering why you don't like Milliner? He looks good from what I've seen. New England does have a great line, but a guard at 12 just seems too high for me.

Mark, just to straighten out one thing you said.

"Anyway ... our O line needs urgent attention. As it is, we have a Chicago bears o line and that just doesn't work when you start playing important games."

Facts are that Chicago was 8th in sacks given up in 2012 (41). Miami was 14 (37). But just to push back on your "urgent" attention. There were 5 (F-I-V-E) Playoffs teams who gave up more sacks than Miami (Green Bay, Bengals, Colts, 49'ers and Ravens). Do you know why THOSE teams can ALL work on THEIR olines? Because they have offensive and defensive weapons so can move on to the next.

Miami is NOT there yet. Therefore, being in the middle of the pack really doesn't sound like an urgent need to me. At least not more urgent than, I don't know, SCORING POINTS, creating TURNOVERS. Those would go a long way towards more wins. A better oline might get us to the SB, but that's AFTER we get the weapons we need to make that line necessary.

Now, if we can do both, improve the line and get weapons, then have at it Jeff, god bless. I'm just saying prioritizing is what's most important right now. And our priority has to start and end with skill-position playmakers.

"Kris, what if the prime pass rushers are gone - Moore, jenkins, Woerner, and Jordan.

What if we are staring at Warmack or Dee Milliner as the best players on the board or an underachieving DE like Mingo or Montgomery?

Would you not condone Warmack then??? I much rather have him than Milliner or any of the B+ DEs in the draft.

And by the way, I mentioned Warmack months back in a convo with Dashi, and we talked about it for a bit. You just don't remember or didn't read it. Also talked to a few other bloggers about him. Anyway ... our O line needs urgent attention. As it is, we have a Chicago bears o line and that just doesn't work when you start playing important games. Rob's offseason plan sounds awesome to me. If indeed the Dolphins did that to their offense, I would be extremely happy.

If two players are similar, then yes you go for the pass rusher, if not, then take the G."

Mark,

Although I don't believe Milliner will still be on the board at 12 BUT if he is then we have to take him. Not sure how much you have seen Bama play but he's a very good player & should go in the top 10.

The strength of this first round appears to be the O-line & Warmack is considered the best or one of the best. The truth is that there probably isn't a WR in this draft that's worth being the 12th overall pick & the pass rushers all have big question marks.

It appears that if we're going to take a WR or TE in the first round we're either going to trade down from 12 or trade back into the first round to take a 2nd player.

Rob,....

It's an ALL TDs....ALL THE TIME league......

John Elway didn't sign Manning a dump Tebow so he could continue to eek out wins in the last 2 min of games.....

The NFL is about scoring and then getting to the other teams QB while they try to score....

You want some names on how to accomplish that......sure.....

Sign Wallace or Bowe....sign Jennings if you have too.....

Dump Fasano....and draft Eifert.....coach up Egnew...use him in the slot on 5 wides.....and bulk up clay a bit to be used as more of a TE.....

Resign Bush...HE SCORES TDs....but he can't be the feature back.....make Miller the main back....and sign a Free Agent 230 lb back.....

Draft Keenan....let hartline walk....give bess and the TE the middle of the feild to operate in....right now it's to jumbled....

Bring in a FA QB....or draft a stud like Shanny did to push Tanne.....he can not be made to feel comfortable as the starter....he didn't show enough.....the job should be Tanne's to lose.....but it should NOT be handed to him......

That is my plan Rob.....

And as you can see....it involves more than one OL.....

Funny, how now everyone's hoping aboard the Chance Warmack(OG) wagon 1st rd. After many roastedme for being on the draft DeCastro(OG) 1st rd bndwagon last year.

BTW, I was on draft a OG 1st rd and RT 2nd rd bandwagon last year. We did get the 2nd rd RT(Martin).

Still, be careful about Warmack, if memory serves me correct, nearly every Bama olineman was consistently at the 2nd level in blocking lastnight.

That's how dominating the "ENTIRE" Bama oline was lsatnight. Not just Warmack. If not for Pouncey, many would be clamoring for Barrett Jones. Hell, he was on d-linemen, lb's and safeties in the run game consistently lastnight.

Guys, ND's d-line sucked to no ends lastnight.

Good post DC, O-line is why the Pats are s good as they are, and you can not beat Green Bay at all if Rogers has his time. So it is important. that was the point of my posts, not that we SHOULD draft one. But to ignore it, or make it last priority would be a mistake. then we would be the Raiders. :)

I don't know who their C is off the top of my head but I know they took a G from Idaho in 2010 by the name of Mike Iupati with a similar pick.

Warmack is a similar if not better prospect than Iupati if you trust what you read so why not?? I'm just not writing off the idea.

Like I said, I'd prefer a top end pass rusher with that pick (who isn't you TD maker either), but if they're gone ...

New poster but long-time reader. I know the mantra is "build through the draft" but one concern I have is whether a rookie receiver can really benefit Tannehill's development. Rookie WR's generally take a couple of years to find their swagger, with some exceptions. While I definitely agree to focus primarly through the draft, it may make sense to pepper in a solid to good player via free agency, particularly at WR or TE to help Tannehill. Other "good" teams have added free agents in the past with success (see Moss to New England, Farrior to Pittsburgh, Boldin to Baltimore)..


Portlandia,

Agreed. Aside from drafting a WR early in the draft I believe we need to re-sign Hartline & then hopefully Jennings. With all the money in cap space we have it would be insane if we didn't add WR's in FA.

Real mature of Mark to call out another man wife.

Kris,

Do you draft Keenan Allen at 12 if there are better players ahead of him???

DC, I would agree whole heartedly that we need to address skill positions - no doubt. Please read my subsequent posts - I do think a super blue chip o line prospect is better than a DE that is rated to go somewhere in the 20s for example. there are some scenarios that may occur come draft day that would make Warmack the best pick for us. Not putting him at the top of our draft board by any means. Like Rob pointed out, there are still ways to significantly address the offense and still make this pick. Admittedly, the defense may suffer though ...

Also, I don't suggest we worry about taking the 2nd LT or the 4th WR or whatever in the Draft. What was Russell Wilson? Right, he's still playing, all the other rookie QBs are playing with themselves.

In 2010 we took the best DE/DT in the Draft (Odrick). He sure is a world-beater. How many teams pass over Aaron Rodgers (or even worse Tom Brady)? Yup, smart to do that. How about 6th-rounder Alfred Morris? You say Reggie Bush got 1,000 yards. How about 1,600 yards? How about 13 TDs?

Moral of the story is: RANKINGS ARE FOR SUCKERS!!!

Portland fin,

As far as wr'
s takling at least a couple years to develop, thats now "outdated info". Yes, when colleges where predominantly "run oriented". That was the golden age of 1st rd rb's.

Now colleges are, like the nfl, "pass oriented". So naturally wr's are coming into the league far more nfl ready, than thier "contemporary counterparts" when "running the ball" was the college theme.

Wr's coming out of college today are getting at least twice as many pass catch opportunities than wr's got in college a decade or so ago. So imo, if comes down to who gets separation, route running, pure athletic ability, and football smarts.

I don't know who their C is off the top of my head but I know they took a G from Idaho in 2010 by the name of Mike Iupati with a similar pick.

Warmack is a similar if not better prospect than Iupati if you trust what you read so why not?? I'm just not writing off the idea.

Like I said, I'd prefer a top end pass rusher with that pick (who isn't you TD maker either), but if they're gone ...

Mark,

The Niners Center is Jonathan Goodwin who I believe used to play for the Saints.

YG.....

That is what I am trying to get across....

ND was THROUGHLY DOMINATED last night.....and not just by new media darling Womack....

If memory serves me correctly....I don't think Womack scored any of those 42 points....

By the way, not to ignore your o line stats - but keep in mind those Miami stats for the most part included jake Long and J Martin. Right now, we don't have Jake. Our o line isn't as good as the one we had for most of last year. That should be considered. At some point this offseason - be it through free agency or draft or whatever, we need some help there. Seven sacks should never happen ...

Truth @ 3:41,

I do know that Miami had a pretty damn good center in Dwight Stephanson. He was also from the Uni of Alabama. He helped anchor the Fins line from 1980 - 1987 when the damn Jets Lyons and Klecko hurt his leg.

A Hall of Famer that went 5 out of 6 years to the pro bowl. The Fins has a record of 6 straight years allowing the NFL's least amount of sacks. (It was later extended to 9 years after he was hurt which may be directly attributed to Marino's blinding quick release).

I know that those powerhouse Steelers teams had C Mike Webster and then C Dermonti Dawson both studs in their own right.

I am not trying to poke at ya Truth as I feel the lack of playmaker drought as just like you I'm a Fins fan too.

The thing is the OL does not get a lot of attention. You hear about Oher through his movie. If an OL has a great game it is not talked about near as much as the QB's, WR's or sackmen of the NFL.

If you have a solid OL, every one of your offensive plays and the teams execution should rise. We need much more of that with our Fins.

Cheers,

Mark,

Joe Staley their LT was a high first round pick, their LG Iupati was a first round pick, Anthony Davis their RT was a first round pick, & I'm not sure what round Boone their RG was taken in...

Kris @ 4:15, ALa got 260 rush yards including 2 backs going over 100. When that happens, it isn't because your RBS are super human, it's because your interior line controlled the game. They are the ones who paved the holes, you could've run for 120 in those holes. They are the ones who gave the Qb time and wore down teh heart of the defense.

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