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No. 1 Dolphins free agent must re-sign? Brian Hartline

The most important Dolphins free agent for the team this offseason? You could argue Randy Starks. Some believe it is Jake Long, although I totally disagree there. Other think Sean Smith, although I see him as very inconsistent and wonder how he'll react to getting paid.

Nope, I believe it's receiver Brian Hartline.

As I write in my column in Sunday's Miami Herald, the Dolphins cannot have a second consecutive season in which they lose wide receiver talent. They need to add at that position and, frankly, Hartline is a certainty while players such as Mike Wallace and Greg Jennings are not.

The fact is neither we nor the Dolphins know exactly what will become of Wallace and Jennings before free agency begins. Yes, they're slated to be UFAs. Yes, they would add talent to Miami's needy offense.

But we cannot be certain they'll be available because free agency doesn't begin until the middle of March. And teams have a window during which they can sign their own free agents. And most good teams don't lose their good players.

So no one knows if Wallace or Jennings will be availabe. The Dolphins do know Hartline is a good player and is available now. My column lets Hartline talk about his feelings on returning to Miami and how he'd feel if the Dolphins don't re-sign before the start of free agency.

Hartlne, by the way, agrees with me that Miami can't be losing WR talent and hoping to get better. 

“As a football guy, to get rid of your leading receiver in back-to-back years. I think that would be tough," he told me. "It’s tough to do. And I understand, they’re in a tough situation and I’m not in a position to say how to do it. I don’t do that. That’s not my job. But that’s hard to do as a franchise if you want to build something. If it costs a little more than you expected, well, that’s the nature of the NFL sometimes.”

A lot of fans often get caught up in the free agency trap of arguing about what a player is not. We all know Hartline is not a No. 1 receiver.

But good teams focus on what players are. Hartline is a good No. 2 wide receiver and if he's you're No. 3 you have a stellar WR corps.

What else is Hartline?

He can play any WR position because he knows them all. He's good in the locker room. He isn’t high-maintenance. Yes, he had one instance where he got frustrated with a coach who was asking him what he saw on the field and because he had already explained himself previously and still the ball wasn’t coming to him, Hartline shut down and simply didn’t talk.

But that was one passing moment this year. He doesn’t jack up the quarterback on the sideline. He doesn’t threaten to punch coaches if they don’t get him the ball, as one previous Dolphins receiver did in 2010.

“I was wrong but you have to let how to handle it,” Hartline said. “I understand now that  I was acting hard-headed because it was a game situation. I was frustrated. It happened once because it’s a passionate sport. But it won’t happen again. It was wrong because you need to learn how to handle it. I didn’t blow up on anybody but wasn’t helping anybody so I’ve learned from that.”

Hartline wants to be signed by the time free agency opens. The ball is in Miami's court. Once free agency begins the ball is in Hartline's court.

“You know, I tell you what, if I do go elsewhere, I’ll tell you what I told Jeff [Ireland]: If we get to free agency, as much as you guys interview me, I’m going to be interviewing you," Hartline said. "Like we’re 7-9. How do you see us getting better? I want to know, too. I want to win. I need to win. That’s what I’d do with other teams, too. I’m going to interview them as much as they want to interview me.

“I want to see myself buying into wherever I see myself at – here, there, wherever. Once I buy in, I’m all in. I want don’t want to be doubting people. I know there are trusts that build over time. But as much as they’re buying into me, I’m buying into you.”

Whatever happens -- whether Miami signs Hartline before free agency or not -- the receiver understands the next couple of months will be busy.

“It’s going to hectic," he said. 

 

 

 

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Clue you're preaching to the choir! Can't stand Sean Smith, he brings nothing but height to this team.

Not only does he not watch games but it is very obvious that he doesn't spend much time studying opponents. He has no football sense whatsoever and never thinks outside the box. I can not wait until he is no longer with this team.

Posted by: Craig M | January 07, 2013 at 01:26 PM

Exactly why I posted Bellichik could shock and take Barkley in this draft. Mallet's last contract year is 2014. There are teams desperate for a qb in 2013.

Bellichik trades Mallet this year, once drafting Barkley. You have to remember Mallet was considered 1st rd talent coming out. He dropped because of maturity issues. He's kepted his mose clean since being in NE.

There maybe a team desperate for qb, since Mallet's kepted his nose clean, may again value him 1st rd worthy. And he's at least been in the nfl 2yrs and has gotten to learn some things from Tom Brady.

Bellichik may win with this one, turning a 3rd pick into a 1st rd pick, then getting Barkley to sit and learn for 3-4 more years under Brady. I hate it, but Bellichik se4ems to regularly "out-fox" the rest of the nfl.

Ross saying all the right things today:

'The resources will be there to spend whatever's needed this offseason'.

'Philbin's a really solid coach who should be here a long time'.

'Money doesn't buy success'.

'Ireland's done a great job accumulating picks'.

It's obvious Ross doesn't read the blog. Doesn't he know it's all doom and gloom....LOL.

How many cellar teams were fighting for a playoff spot in week 15? Completely ignorant statement as usual.

Hartline isn't a great yards after catch guy...

Posted by: Statler | January 07, 2013 at 01:21 PM

So, I COULD NOT believe this because didn't we hear in the past that Hartline was the best YAC WR on the team? So I'm asking myself, "what's this guy talking about?"

But I did some research, and in 2012, Hartline was tied for 75 in YAC. So Statler is right, not that great. Bush was 68. #1 Dolphin was Bess (#52). #1 YAC WR in the league is some no-name guy, maybe you heard of him, WES WELKER! Yeah, that one keeps biting every year.

By the way, for the haters, Dez Bryant was #9. Looking like a steal #1 pick there. Even with the off-field issues.

WHDP, I think next year they will be a playoff team. They were almost a playoff team this year (could have been if a few things went the other way *2 FGs*). As long as they have a decent offseason I don't see why the playoffs wouldn't be an option.

Now I agree with you that won't instantly make them the Pats/49ers/Green Bay/NYG (established, year in/out contender), but they will be on the verge. This team is very young and has a good D that easily could be great. I only see them going up from here.

"Personally I'd look to FA to add another CB. Smith is nothing special and we have some money to play with. I'd rather get a known commodity than some guy we don't know what he'll be like via the draft.

Just not convinced people can say 'this secondary is nothing without Sean Smith'. I just don't see it."

Craig,

The only guy I LOVE in our secondary is Jones. Clemons would make an excellent 3rd Safety so I would re-sign if the price is right.

I said it earlier in the season & I still think it's true--we had the worst WR corp & the worst CB corp in the NFL.

Posted by: Mark in Toronto | January 07, 2013 at 01:30 PM

Mark, with 1st overall pick, I dont see KC trading for Mallet. They remember what happened last time they traded for a Pat qb. Thier now looking for one. Still, the value isnt there. They can take Geno Smith.

YG,

I don't disagree with you on the strategy. BB's a MAGICIAN if he can get a first round pick for Mallett. Not saying he's not capabale of it (there's a lot of dumb teams out there) but if he can pull that off it's a better coup than the Cassell trade for a second.

I like the strategy. Just not convinced he'll get a first for him. if he gets a second for him he's done a Hell of a job.

lmao Channing Crowder! I actually forgot about that knucklehead.

Remember when the Dolphins cut him and he said they didn't know what they were doing? Tore them up and down in the media and said he would be playing for a contender in the following season? What happened to the dream Channing?

But seriously I do thank him for his hard work while there. He just wasn't good enough as a play maker.

A HOT RUOMOR ;;;;;;;;

RG3 IS DONE FOR THE NEXT YEAR ..........

Macgee I agree with the old school part. The thing that bugs me, (and only because I love watching RG3 play and don't want his career diminished by stupidity) is the fact that Shannahan lied. He said the doctors gave the okay for him to go back in and today the doctor said he wasn't even allowed to look at RG3s knee and was very scared seeing him go back in to play.

That right there is all that needs to be said. There is NO defense for that.

WHDPs,

I'd be pissed if we go CB in the first over a WR. Not saying our secondary couldn't use help but making dumb moves like this isn't helping us.

I'd look at a guy like Darius Butler or Quentin Jammer in FA. Butler's a guy I wanted Ireland to bring in when he was released by the Pats. He had a very steady year in Indy. Not sure what their cap situation is but maybe we could steal him away from them.

Ghey?

ALoco,

I say pass rusher if we use the #12 pick. Makes sense because Wake has about 3-4 strong years left maxed. If we draft say a Woerner @ #12, when Wake declines, he'll already be an established pass rusher for us going forward into the future.

Also, Vernon stays in the pass rush rotation, so when Wake declines, we'll have our bookend pass rushers for the future. Weorner and Vernon.

28-0.

WHDP, I think next year they will be a playoff team. They were almost a playoff team this year (could have been if a few things went the other way *2 FGs*). As long as they have a decent offseason I don't see why the playoffs wouldn't be an option.

Now I agree with you that won't instantly make them the Pats/49ers/Green Bay/NYG (established, year in/out contender), but they will be on the verge. This team is very young and has a good D that easily could be great. I only see them going up from here.

CommonSense,

I don't think the defense is good. They consistently fell apart in the 4th quarter & we rarely forced a turnover. Forget the number of points allowed per game allowed. I'm talking about what I saw on a week to week basis.

I think we have some good players but our CB's are horrible (worst in the NFL as a group) & we need more than one guy who can consistently put pressure on the QB.

YG, nobody ever said anything about the #1 pick and Mallett.... that would be complete stupidity ...

The only FA I really want to see them go after is Byrd (I'd say Goldston too, but really doubt he gets to leave). Buffalo would be dumb to let him walk, but who knows. A ballhawk safety to pair with Jones would do a lot. Add a good CB to that mix and that D is real solid.

Also wouldn't be suprised if they picked up a G/T in FA. Taking the OG from Bama in the 1st might be an option. I know a lot of people will hate that, but if Martin works out at LT you have Martin/Bama Guy/Pouncy. Also with the lack of WR for drafting early this could be a good move. 1st Pick S/CB/OL/LB would make sense. I think WR/TE might be a reach.

Henne, is the next Marino.

lol

Please for goodness sake no more OL in the first round. NO more!!! I dont care if there the second coming of Bruce Matthews.

Mando reports on twitter that Ross's comments were 22 minutes. New blog soon I'm sure.

1st

WHDP, they do suck at forcing turnovers. Though overall they are a pretty good unit. DL is solid, LBs are decent (could be better, could be worse), and yeah the secondary is weak. Jones is good, Smith is average. Too bad Marshall got hurt, he was decent. One of the new CBs might end up being a role playing/nickel.

Mark, Dont underestimate New England, Who was the Defensive lineman they got Oakland to take for two first round picks tw years ago?
There (New England) Evil.

cheap ross.
lol

"I'd be pissed if we go CB in the first over a WR. Not saying our secondary couldn't use help but making dumb moves like this isn't helping us.

I'd look at a guy like Darius Butler or Quentin Jammer in FA. Butler's a guy I wanted Ireland to bring in when he was released by the Pats. He had a very steady year in Indy. Not sure what their cap situation is but maybe we could steal him away from them."

Craig,

So would I. Tannehill needs help.

CraigM,

Did you see my post to ALoco, that if we used #12, Woerner should be the pick? I say this because Woerner is the most likely to fall out of the top 10. Not because of performance, but becuase of team needs ahaed of us.

Here's my post to ALoco:

I say pass rusher if we use the #12 pick. Makes sense because Wake has about 3-4 strong years left maxed. If we draft say a Woerner @ #12, when Wake declines, he'll already be an established pass rusher for us going forward into the future.
Also, Vernon stays in the pass rush rotation, so when Wake declines, we'll have our bookend pass rushers for the future. Weorner and Vernon.

Posted by: Yesterday's Gone 4Ever! | January 07, 2013 at 01:48 PM

I dont mean to keep harping on SS but remember during the Buafflo game he had to come out because he was craping in 20 degree weather. The reason because he took Paul Solai advice to drink a couple of 5 hour energey drinks before the game. I dont think anyone ever mistaken Paul S to be some sort of nutrition expert except SS. Bright guy!

WHDP; What does "reminds me of Anquan Boldin" mean to you? It means to me that he has the size, speed, strength and athletic ability of Boldin. Maybe to you it means he must put up Boldin like numbers before he can "remind" one of someone but I don't think that is valid. John F. Kennedy's son reminds me of JFK but he hasn't been president of the USA and neither has he been assassinated.

Of course, Ireland won't be fired next year no matter where Matthews is listed among WRs (can't tell whether you've said this in jest). I don't think Ireland goes for anything less than the Dolphins making the playoffs next year. I believe that will be his only measuring stick. No matter who shows up after FA or the draft and no matter what the fan chatter, Ireland will be here for next season.

*cramping

A #2 WR is easy to find via the draft and FA. A pro-bowl left tackle is not.

WHDP if they sign a wr in free agency there will be no need for one in the 1st round of the draft. Then we can take best available DE or CB whichever that is on our draft board. That's the hope for me anyway.

Whichever that. Nice, and I have a degree! By reading my post you would think it was from S.U. (Subway University)

YG,

You know how I feel about taking a pass rusher. To me it's a must. Only caveat is if we strike out on all WRs in FA (Jennings, Hartline, Wallace, Welker, even Bowe, who I'm not that high on). Now we have a problem. We're down one WR from an already depleted core. At that point I think we need to add TWO WRs and a TE in the draft. I don't know what we do at OLB/DE at that pointbut in the case like this I think we have a problem.

I'm pretty confident we can get Jennings but what if the plans change. What if he decides he loves GB and will go there for far less money. Thinks change quickly.

I need to see more of Woerner. I'm higher on Moore and Jordan but I believe Woerner has a chance too. Just need to see a bit more of him. I believe there will be a few guys there for us at 12.

Sign Greg Jennings, Draft a playmaking DE in the first round, I literally mean a guy who actually got sacks in college unlike Misi. Im not sure what Egcrap has but if he stinks go with a TE in the second round.

YG....DISAGREE WITH YOU.........

WE R IN THE CELLAR..

WE HAVE A QB WHO NEEDS HELP ........

SO,WHO WE SHOULD DRAFT TO WIN NOW ,NOT WHEN WAKE DECLINES .............

LIFE IS SHORT,

3-4 YEARS FOR WAITING FOR WAKE TO DECLINE IS A LONG TIME ..

"WHDP, they do suck at forcing turnovers. Though overall they are a pretty good unit. DL is solid, LBs are decent (could be better, could be worse), and yeah the secondary is weak. Jones is good, Smith is average. Too bad Marshall got hurt, he was decent. One of the new CBs might end up being a role playing/nickel."

CommonSense,

Good at times but just not clutch. Remember the game when Reshad Jones had that beautiful INT??? We need more plays like that next year.

Wake is a fantastic player but we still another pass rusher.

Clue,,,,,LOL. I remember that now, and I remember wondering why a kid who supposedly earned a degree in college doesn't realize that drinking (what is equal to 4 to 6 cups of) coffee before a football game is a bad idea. Considering part of the packet they receive when they first arrive for training camp outlines exactly what they should and shouldn't eat just proves how dumb this kid is. Even without having a team nutritionist on hand he should have known what Caffeine does to your body. I swear it's like he's twelve.

Aloco, Yo alled me a donkey the other night. Why?

I'm getting angrier by the minute. In fact, I want Shanahan out of the league, and I'll not rest until that happens.

MAGEE..........


THAT'S BEFORE I KNEW YOU.

PLEASE, ........................


ACCEPT MY APOLOGY .............

Yeah, Sean Smith is not even close to the sharpest tool in the box. He's *real* dumb. We're talking ghetto thug "you can take a thug out of the ghetto but..." dumb.

RGIII was a victim of a violent crime perpetrated by an ignoran buffoon called Mike "Shanahan," and I'll not rest until every person in the civilized world understands it.

"Here's my post to ALoco:"

In other words, here's my post to a made up figment of someones imagination who doesn't actually talk back.

I'm totally kidding (as in not busting your chops, well maybe a little) but it is SO funny to me.

Phins78, Madison and Surtain were big time corners for the team, who constantley made plays at the CB position. All we've seen from SS is him getting beat and barley wanting to tackle. Guys theres been plenty of times SS was beat for a TD and the receiver simply dropped the ball, I remember Stevie Johnson beating SS multiple times just couldnt hold on to the ball for the TD. Fitzgerald was shut down because all of the Arizona QB's sucked.

CraigM,

Acording to Walter Camp, Werner is the 2nd rated DE, behind Moore. Totally forget about Moore, he's rated top 5 pick.

Werner is rated top 10 pick.

Same Montgomery is rated 3rd best, and he's rated top 16.

Jarvis Jones is rated a olb. We play 4-3, so we have to draft DE. Still both Jones and Moore are rated top 5 picks. Werner's rated 2nd best DE in the draft. So if he slips to #12 then we pounce.

If not, trade down, pick up an extra 2nd, then draft TE, 2 wr's and maybe corner with the extra 2nd rd pick gained by trading down.

Lavar Arrington on the radio now....

Another FORMER PLAYER....

Arrington says that it was (and should have been) RG3's call...and RG3 made the call....

Let the chips fall were they may....RG3 gets paid millions...and is a grown @ss man....

he and the rest of the former players are swaying me....

Anyone here feel comfortable with Ireland in charge of building this team?

PHINS THINKS HE KNOWS ,WHAT OTHER PEOPLE CAN'T UNDERSTAND OR BE AWARE OF ........


THAT'S HOW A MEMPER OF THE ( LOVE BOYS ) GANG ,THINKS AND REASON ........

That's true about the drops Clue. And do you remember what he did after every one of those drops?!!!!!

He turns around and gives the two arm swoosh as in "nope , not in my house" after he was clearly beaten, made no play on the ball, and the result was simply receiver error.

I can not for the life of me understand what anyone sees in this guy besides size and speed.

Phins78 LMAO, the infamous two arm swoosh when the WR dropped the ball. Classic

Yeah, Sean Smith is not even close to the sharpest tool in the box. He's *real* dumb. We're talking ghetto thug "you can take a thug out of the ghetto but..." dumb.
Posted by: Ryan Leaf | January 07, 2013 at 02:11 PM

Ryan, He's just playing "GHETTO", He grew up in Wisconsin, They have no "GHETTO", It's a well known fact, He's just plain old STUPID.

"WHDP; What does "reminds me of Anquan Boldin" mean to you? It means to me that he has the size, speed, strength and athletic ability of Boldin. Maybe to you it means he must put up Boldin like numbers before he can "remind" one of someone but I don't think that is valid. John F. Kennedy's son reminds me of JFK but he hasn't been president of the USA and neither has he been assassinated.

Of course, Ireland won't be fired next year no matter where Matthews is listed among WRs (can't tell whether you've said this in jest). I don't think Ireland goes for anything less than the Dolphins making the playoffs next year. I believe that will be his only measuring stick. No matter who shows up after FA or the draft and no matter what the fan chatter, Ireland will be here for next season."

I meant Ireland should be fired after the 2013 season if Matthews starts the season as our 3rd best WR. I'm sorry but that's unacceptable.

I believe that not resigning Hartline will be a problem for this offense. But regardless of re-signing Hartline, Ireland still needs to sign a big time WR in FA & draft another WR in the first two rounds. With the cap space & the amount of draft picks we have if he can't get that done then he shouldn't be a GM.

As for the Boldin comparison when I think of Boldin, the first two things that come to mind are toughness & the ability to make the big time catches. IMO--I don't think that we've seen enough of Matthews in his three games where he caught passes to see either quality yet. I'm not saying that he doesn't have potential & that he doesn't have good size for a WR but it's just too small of a sampling size to remind me of anyone.

Magee correct, SS is no "gangster" just isnt the brightest apple of the bunch.

Arrington's main postion seems to be that Shanny should not be take ALL the blame for playing RG3....they made a JOINT decision...

and JOINTLY they should share the consequences....and responsibilities inhierent in that decision...

As I write that....I am reminded of how RG3 has been critisized for his decision making out of the pocket (not sliding)....

and perhaps his decision (again) is @ fault for the possible set back in his career and progression as an NFL QB....

It was shor-sighted to believe that he could finish the game...and EVEN if he did...what about next week....it ws HIGHLY DOUBTFUL he would have been ready to play @ a high-level had they beaten Seattle....so then WHAT????

If Shanny didn't trust his back-up QB to finish a play-off game Yesterday...how was he gonna trust him to START and FINISH a play-off game next week....

Seems to me that EGO on the part of both Shany and 3 got in the way of forward thinking....and perhaps...they are more alike than we may have thought....

YG,

I realize where Weorner is rated. But there are busts every year, for guys that were rated highly. Not saying it will be the case with this guy, just saying so far I see more in Jordan and Montgomery, to name just a couple. That might change but that's what I see right now.

Posted by: Ryan Leaf | January 07, 2013 at 02:11 PM

Sean Smith definitely's not "ghetto" if he were, he would play "a lot tougher" than what he does.

Smith is far closer to "suburb wannabe ghetto" than ghetto itself.

You know, probably, exactly like yourself?

I did'nt think getting rid of Vonte Davis was a smart move, Id rather have had Ireland get rid of "gangsta" Smith..
Ohh well, Another Ireland move.

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