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The cost and savings of cutting some players

On Dec. 29 I shared with you a rundown of the Dolphins 2013 cap situation.. That post explained how the Dolphins have tons of cap room this year by showing you the cap number for every Dolphins player under contract plus some dead money and other machinations.

When all was said and done, we came to the conclusion the Dolphins could have as much as $46 million in cap space in 2013 if they carry over $5 million that went unused this year, which most teams do anyway. The updated number now is $46,066,759, again assuming the Dolphins carry over their space from this season. The number will vary but you can give or take $2 million to be safe.

It was a highly popular post but it also opened the flood gates to more questions on other cap issues, and the most frequently asked of those was, "What players are likely to get cut to save cap room?"

My answer is I do not know. Look, when I know, I tell you. When I know, I write it hard.

When I don't know, I tell you that also. I have no hard information which player, if any, the Dolphins might cut for cap purposes this year. But I can show you the candidates and the ramifications.

That means I can tell you the potential cap savings and dead money whacking certain players would create.

I'm not picking these names out of a hat. I'm telling you the guys that are even remote candidates for this exercise. Doesn't mean they will get cut. But obviously, the team studies this situation. Now, you can also:

Player                   Cap cost    Cap savings     Dead money

Karlos Dansby       $8.575M      $3.925M         $4.65M

Paul Soliai             $7.875M     $6.3M             $1.575M

Richard Marshall    $5.766M     $5.35M           $2.33M

Kevin Burnett       $5.7M         $3.2M              $2.5M

Richie Incognito    $5.38M       $4.3M              $1.08M

Dimitri Patterson  $4.6M          $4.6M             $0

Davone Bess          $3.43M        $2.68M           $750K

Dan Carpenter       $3.012M      $2.7M             $312,500

Michael Egnew      $652,239      $210,522        $441,717

Nolan Carroll        $622,939      $575,000         $47,939

Remember that dead money is a cost that remains on the team's books after a player to which the team was invested is cut or traded. The Dolphins, for exampled, don't have Vontae Davis on the roster anymore. But he's still costing them $1.1 million in dead money on their salary cap.

If cutting or trading a player leaves a lot of dead money on the books, the move is less likely.

Obviously the list above does not include every player under contact. But let's face it, every player should not be here because some simply do not make any sense whatever to consider for cutting or salary cuts.

Cameron Wake is not here, for example.

Even some of the players on the list above are a stretch to even look at. Let's face it, the Dolphins will not cut Karlos Dansby and Kevin Burnett and neither is going to take a paycut because they could find work elsewhere pretty quickly.

But some players on here should be wary of what's going to happen this offseason and even into training camp.

Patterson, for example, will never see $4.6 million in cap cost from the Dolphins next year. He played well in exactly one game before getting injured. That doesn't earn you that kind of money the following year. And the fact cutting his pay or simply whacking him would cost the team zero in dead money means this is glowing in neon to happen.

Richard Marshall should be worried, too. He's coming off back surgery. The club will probably take him to training camp as long as he heals as scheduled and shows that he can return to being a contributor in 2013. But if he doesn't show bigtime in training camp and the Dolphins have other options, Marshall should be looking around corners. In fact, he should be monitoring what Miami does in the draft in free agency at the cornerback spot because he's not guaranteed anything at this point. Yes, that would be a lot of dead money spent on him. But the savings might be worth it to the team.

Same with Dan Carpenter. He's in the final year of his contract. He is coming off a season in which he missed pressure kicks that might have won two games. And then he couldn't finish out the season.

The Dolphins have not brought a kicker to camp to compete with Carpenter in years. I believe they will do that next training camp. Just in case. 

And if Carpenter loses the battle, the club saves $2.7 million.

 

 

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Hi guys, Im in Toronto but such a dork

I think your Cap savings # for Marshall is wrong. It should be about $3M, not $5M.

Alright, if one is to troll all day and make jokes. At the very least, be good at it. 1:13 is just not cuttin' it.

YG, has very foul language when he becomes insulting. I wonder where he learned it? Probably in some part of Detroit.

See ya Dansby! See ya Burnett! See ya Egnew!

We'll need to replace them but trusnick can replace one (not seriously but almost seriously). At least get rid of one of them. Their money is literally dead money

If we don't draft a CB Marshall stays, if we do he's gone. Not a good enough corner to start, MAYBE play the nickel

Signal.....

You're right...and amazing is the right word......recently the new whipping boys around this blog are the scouts....well who HIRED the scouts......

Ladies and Gentlemen....All roads lead back to Ireland....and 5 years is 3 years to many imo.....

The worst part is we are forced to root for Ireland...because AGAIN.....all roads lead to Ireland....the future of our team depends on Ireland being right....and he is WRONG so much......

Here's to Ireland....as he meets his Waterloo.....let's see which side he comes out on...

JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE I HOPE JEFFY DOESN'T SCREW UP THIS OFF SEASON. WE ARE PRIME FOR IMMEDIATE APPROVAL IF HE GETS IT RIGHT. MY FA WR CHOICE IS MIKE WALLACE, THEN I WILL LOOK AT THE BEST CB,TE. IF I CAN FILL THOSE POSITIONS THEN THOSE WILL BE TOP DRAFT PRIORITIES, IF THEY ARE FOUND IN FA THEN I GO #1 PICK A PASS RUSHER. IN 2012 OFF SEASON WE WAS TOLD WE WANTED MORE SPEED AND ENDED UP NOT ADDRESSING THE PROBLEM. THIS IS WHY I'M SO ADAMANT ABOUT WALLACE SIMPLY BECAUSE OF SPEED. HE AND BUSH AND MAYBE A PATTERSON IN THE DRAFT WILL MAKE THE DOLPHINS ONE OF THE FASTEST TEAMS IN THE NFL AND THIS WILL LEAD TO MORE POINTS SCORED AND A PLAYOFF SPOT BARRING INJURY. SO LET'S HOPE JEFFY DOESN'T SCREW UP BECAUSE THIS WILL RUIN THIS FRANCHISE FOR YEARS TO COME. GO DOLPHINS!!

Patterson, Egnew, Marshall, and Carpenter would all be gone if I had to make the call.

Oscar,

I love this post:


YG, has very foul language when he becomes insulting. I wonder where he learned it? Probably in some part of Detroit.

Posted by: oscar canosa | January 18, 2013 at 01:19 PM

ROTFLMAO>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Oscar,

ALoco says you only spend 3-4hrs a day sleeping. How do you manage to stay awake? Do you aspire yourself in amphetaminol pharmaceuticals?

Thinking of changing my screen name to:

Armando's My B i t c h! AKA AMB. LOL...

Widdle Te'o is a phocking flaming f#ggot. Okay?

Hi dummies. I told you UM ACC brainwashed types all season that Gay T'io is not NFL material. None of you got it until Notre Garbage had to play a real team from the SEC.

Dude will be Brian Bozworth. Get pancaked flat on his back by NFL running backs.

This team would've went deep into the playoffs if Ross would've paid Matt Flynn fairly!! He's a cheap SOB that only cares about the money.

somebody killed the blog....

DD, from earlier. You're description of Mathieu, roaming around, makes him a PERFECT safety. And, guess what, we don't have a ballhawk safety. Sounds like a fit to me! Kick Clemons to the curb.

yes Kris... frustrating

but DC, Clemons is young and developing @ 27, if we give him a 10 year contract, he may develop ...

Funny Mark. That's probably what Miami is thinking. He's been in the league what, 3 years now? How much longer they gonna waste on a guy before they realize his ceiling is 2.9 feet short of a yard?

any interest in eiffert, nd TE?

I don't know, ask certain people on this blog who prefer him to Kenny Phillips, Louis Delmas or Will Moore or one of the other young, accomplished safeties that will be on the market this summer.

I, like you, think this position should be upgraded either through significant free agents or a high draft pick.

Has Irescum been fired yet?

Kris,

It wasn't Ireland who hired the scouts. It was his boss Parcells, who also happened to hire the HC, Sparano. Are you going to dispute this one also? And it wasn't Ireland who fired Sparano, it was Ross. Ross is the one who's idea it was to fire up the private jet and pursue Harbaugh before he signed with SF. Ireland doesn't have the kind of power you think he does in this organization and you should be thankful for that.

Now which part of the above would you like to debate?

Mark,

I'm not that high on Delmas (injured too much) or Phillips 9too inconsistent). I don't believe they are much of an upgrade on Clemmons. Byrd in Buffalo is the guy I really like and I wondr if they'll run into cap problems if they cut Fitpatrick and with the money they spent on their DL last year. Maybe Byrd doesn't even want to play there next year. Depending on the money he wants, Byrd would be one of my biggest priorities for this off-season.

Not sure why it's so difficult for people to believe that Parcells is the one who put the infrastructure in place when he game to Miami. He's NOBODY'S flunkie. It's ridiculous to think he'd take the job in Miami just to be the figurehead and let other people make all the decisions. He's never worked that way anywhere else, so why would he START in Miami (and regardless of what people say, he did have success in his other stops).

He brought the same tried and true practices and processes to Miami. It worked for one season but the reality is his time in Miami was a FAILURE. People can dislike Jeff Ireland all they like but everything that happened in Miami has had Bill Parcells' fingerprints all over them. Doesn't mean Ireland isn't without fault but no way is he responsible for 4 straight losing seasons as so many are quick to point out.

Good Job Mando!

Dansby Is Still Expendable!!

It's Is There In Black and White!!

Burnett Cost! $5.7

You Save $4 Mil For Cutting Dansby!!

For Another $1M You Can Find Dansby's Replacement!! And Not Get A Cap Hit!!

Cut

Marshall $5.3
Patterson $4.6
Incognito $4.3
Carpenter $2.7

About $17 Mil Extra In Cap!!

Marshall and Patterson Depends On Resigning Smith!!

Craig please man, its equally as much Parcells fault as it is Ireland. Ireland has been the GM for what 5 years now?? Was he stroking Parcells c o c k as he was picking Pat White and the other sorry a s s players we drafted. Wasnt it his job to say Daddy dont pick him he stinks? Wasnt it!??

Craig, everyone's an upgrade to Clemons ..

Mark, Is Renaldo Hill still playing what aout Dirtball Wilson.

Clue,

So tell me and all the others on here with a straight face, it was Ireland that picked Long over Ryan and Henne in the second round. Tell me with all honesty that you believe Ireland had the authority to make that decision. Cause that's a bold-face lie. That was ALL Parcells.....ALL knowing and ALL ego. And I think if we'd done that one differently, a lot of the things that have gone on here would have been different too.

Do you agree or disagree?

Cordarrelle is not even th 4th fastest receiver in this year's Draft. But we like DeAndre Hopkins, 6'1, 200, 4.4(4th fastest), who when his great WR teammate Sammy Watkins went out, caught 13 balls against LSU being zeroed in By the D. Some kind of Football Player.

Clue, nobody is as good as Cleveland Bowtie!

I agree Parcells picked the players, but doesnt Jeffrey boy has a mouth was he really the GM or acting like one?? Im sure he didnt even second guess his daddy he just went a long like a p u s s y whipped little boy. No GM in the world would choose a LT over a possible franchise QB. Even if Long could block Jesus Christ I'll never choose him over a potential franchise QB.

haha, Clue, as you get older you'll come to realize that acting just like Jeffy did in your post will get you VERY FAR!

Mark, wish I could disagree @ 4:37

Armando __ You didn't have J.Ireland name on the list ? So how much money will Ross saves by cutting him to pieces ?

With The Extra $17M! From Cutting The 4 Players I Posted @ 4:20!!

The Fins Will Have $64 Mil In Cap!!

More Than Enough Money!!

To Resign Long, Starks, Hartline, and Clemons! (About $20 Mil To Keep)

While Going After Wallace And Levitre!! (Almost Another $18)

And Still Have Money To Spend! On A Top Flight DE! And CB!!!

I Hear People Calling For Keller! Or A TE!

Here Is A Hint! We Are Going To Be Running A lot Of 4-5 WR Sets!!

On Offense We Just Need O-Line And Wr's!

Tell Me Where A TE Fits In? If The Wr's Are!

Wallace
Hartline
Bess
D.Hopkins
Matthews

Marcia In Toronto,

Ha-ha-ha-ha............... Even CraigM doesnt agree with you about Delmas and Phillips. Both are drafted higher, and like CraigM, I dont see either as considerable upgrades to Clemon.

How do you feel now, Mr Genius in your own mind? LOL...

CAPTAIN/DASHI............


YOU SOUND LIKE YOU KNOW EVERY THING ............

DENVER???????

ANY ONE.....

WE GOT TO BAME THE GARAGE MANAGER FOR ALL THE ILLS WE HAVE AS A TEAM,,,,

BLAME

Check Ben Volin's column in the Palm Beach Post. He argues for signing Bowe over Wallace

Clue,

It gets worse. Ireland had better have a great offseason and the team makes the playoffs in 2013.

Because if ATL wins the sb, oh boy! It'll be discuss in this blog for the next 10yrs. Ireland's the only one left to be the blog's whipping boy if Atlanta wins this year's sb.

Im sure Jeffy hopes anybody other than the Falcons win this year's sb. Hell, he's even pulling for Jim Harbaugh to knock them out in this weekend's nfc championship game. LOL....

Volin is totally wrong. Mando nails it with Wallace!!!!

If you guys think that trolls are Ireland bashers now. You havent seen anything until Matt Ryan wins a sb this year.

Im not saying Ryan will, just play the scenario in your heads, what will happen in here if it did happen.
There will be Fireland Banners flying the first home game of the season. LOL...

Doesnt matter that Ireland isnt 100% responsible for Long over Ireland. He's the only one left to take the heat! LOL...

A loco,

Dashi has said So Himself! I Don't Know Everything!!

Just 95% Of The Time! I Do!!

And Denver was Betting With My Heart Buddy!!

Just for That!! I'll Make It Up This Week!!

This Week Dashi Is Betting With His Brain!!

I'm Picking The Pats!! By At Least 9!!

On The NFC Game!! To Close To Call!!

I'm Leaning 49ers!! But The Falcons Have The Better Offense!!

Either Way!! Write Me Down! For Brady!!

I Rather Say Brady Is The Greatest Qb!! Of All Time!! Instead Of Joke Montana!!

Still Doesn't Mean They Are More Prolific Passers Than Dan!! Just Better Team Qb's!! And They Have Rings!!

MIKE SHULA BECOMES THE PANTHERS OC///////////


ROB CHUDZINISKI BECOMES CLEVELAND HC.


WHILE IN THE CELLAR,WE R HAPPY WITH OUR GARAGE MANAGER ,,,,

DASHI,,,,,,,

GOOD ANSWER,I FORGIVE YOU ALREADY .........

Some people actually believe Mr Ego Parcells let little boy Jeffie with no experience as a gm or coach call the shots.


I think they just want to find excuses to hate JI.

It doesn't matter if Matty Ice wins a SB this year....cause he will most likely win one before its all said and done...possibly 2......

There is no debate....even the most STAUNCHEST of Ireland supports Craig M has come to that realization....and if he can see it...there is no reason the rest of the blog shouldn't....

Matty has helped his team thrive in the same time span that Long has been under .500 for 4 of 5 years....

Ireland will get all the criticism he deserves.....regardless of tomorrows outcome....

Think about it.....how can Ireland possibly be thinking about staking his reputation on the lack of accolades of another player....GOD I hope not....

I hope Ireland is gonna rest his head on what he can do for the FINS....

Dashi,

Im picking the Ravens in an upset over the Pats. There are a number of reasons why:

1. Revenge from last year's afc championship loss.
2. They beat the Pats in this year's regular season match. Wasnt B-chik fined for grabbing the ref after that game?

3. No Gronk
4. Torrey Smith is all of a sudden becoming a beast at wr.

5. I dont think the Pats really have an answer for Boldin either.

6. Flacco is proving to be a real Playoff qb.
7. I like the Ravens as the better overrall defense.

I could list more? Still, I like the Ravens by 3pts.

Jeffie had about as much say in the first pick of Parcells arrival as I did.

None.

Parcells first two choices were the two Longs. Jeffie made coffee and sharpened pencils.

kris,

Its not going to stop the Firelands from becoming even more agressive in thier disdain for him should Matt Ryan win a sb this year.

Firelands will see it as we should have been winning the sb this year were Ryan selected over Long. Parcells is gone. Only Ireland is left to take the heat.

You can believe the bashers will be coming after Ireland like a towering inferno! LOL...

We are all talking about recievers. What makes us think after not signing a signifcant reciever in free agency last year or drafting one higher than the 7th rd last year, it will be any different this year?

Are they going to admit they were dead wrong? I guess they can say they expected more from Roberto Wallace, Marlon Moore, and Naanee which is probably true for Ireland.

Maybe Jennings is a possibilty just to make a splash and his familiarity with system but I'll believe it when I see it.

Jeffie is the man sucka go dolphins go get um jeff

PATS TO THE SUPER BOWL............

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