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The cost and savings of cutting some players

On Dec. 29 I shared with you a rundown of the Dolphins 2013 cap situation.. That post explained how the Dolphins have tons of cap room this year by showing you the cap number for every Dolphins player under contract plus some dead money and other machinations.

When all was said and done, we came to the conclusion the Dolphins could have as much as $46 million in cap space in 2013 if they carry over $5 million that went unused this year, which most teams do anyway. The updated number now is $46,066,759, again assuming the Dolphins carry over their space from this season. The number will vary but you can give or take $2 million to be safe.

It was a highly popular post but it also opened the flood gates to more questions on other cap issues, and the most frequently asked of those was, "What players are likely to get cut to save cap room?"

My answer is I do not know. Look, when I know, I tell you. When I know, I write it hard.

When I don't know, I tell you that also. I have no hard information which player, if any, the Dolphins might cut for cap purposes this year. But I can show you the candidates and the ramifications.

That means I can tell you the potential cap savings and dead money whacking certain players would create.

I'm not picking these names out of a hat. I'm telling you the guys that are even remote candidates for this exercise. Doesn't mean they will get cut. But obviously, the team studies this situation. Now, you can also:

Player                   Cap cost    Cap savings     Dead money

Karlos Dansby       $8.575M      $3.925M         $4.65M

Paul Soliai             $7.875M     $6.3M             $1.575M

Richard Marshall    $5.766M     $5.35M           $2.33M

Kevin Burnett       $5.7M         $3.2M              $2.5M

Richie Incognito    $5.38M       $4.3M              $1.08M

Dimitri Patterson  $4.6M          $4.6M             $0

Davone Bess          $3.43M        $2.68M           $750K

Dan Carpenter       $3.012M      $2.7M             $312,500

Michael Egnew      $652,239      $210,522        $441,717

Nolan Carroll        $622,939      $575,000         $47,939

Remember that dead money is a cost that remains on the team's books after a player to which the team was invested is cut or traded. The Dolphins, for exampled, don't have Vontae Davis on the roster anymore. But he's still costing them $1.1 million in dead money on their salary cap.

If cutting or trading a player leaves a lot of dead money on the books, the move is less likely.

Obviously the list above does not include every player under contact. But let's face it, every player should not be here because some simply do not make any sense whatever to consider for cutting or salary cuts.

Cameron Wake is not here, for example.

Even some of the players on the list above are a stretch to even look at. Let's face it, the Dolphins will not cut Karlos Dansby and Kevin Burnett and neither is going to take a paycut because they could find work elsewhere pretty quickly.

But some players on here should be wary of what's going to happen this offseason and even into training camp.

Patterson, for example, will never see $4.6 million in cap cost from the Dolphins next year. He played well in exactly one game before getting injured. That doesn't earn you that kind of money the following year. And the fact cutting his pay or simply whacking him would cost the team zero in dead money means this is glowing in neon to happen.

Richard Marshall should be worried, too. He's coming off back surgery. The club will probably take him to training camp as long as he heals as scheduled and shows that he can return to being a contributor in 2013. But if he doesn't show bigtime in training camp and the Dolphins have other options, Marshall should be looking around corners. In fact, he should be monitoring what Miami does in the draft in free agency at the cornerback spot because he's not guaranteed anything at this point. Yes, that would be a lot of dead money spent on him. But the savings might be worth it to the team.

Same with Dan Carpenter. He's in the final year of his contract. He is coming off a season in which he missed pressure kicks that might have won two games. And then he couldn't finish out the season.

The Dolphins have not brought a kicker to camp to compete with Carpenter in years. I believe they will do that next training camp. Just in case. 

And if Carpenter loses the battle, the club saves $2.7 million.

 

 

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Cali is a BIG state. Let's stick to the places I've mentioned. Miami is not exactly a peaceful town.

11:14 of course the impersonators come out because they really have nothing to say.

Phinmanski the semetic

Basua

Basura, what's Semetic?

Back To Football!!

SF has A Great Home field!! Because They Have Felons And Convicts In Their Stadiums!!

To Bad They Don't Show The Place! On TV!!

What About The Earthquakes?

The NFC game! Should Be A Good One!! Who Would've Thought? A Qb Makes A Great Coach!!

Me Personally, I Hate Matt Ryan! He Sucks! He Is Below Average! Money! On The Real Irish! Kapernick! Well Coached! And Supremely Talented! A Notch Below Sunshine!

Plus, San Fran Just Bullies People!!

Plus, Señor X Factor!!

PATRICK F. WILLIS!!

And The Defense!!

No Running! For The Falcons!!

Put a action used Patterson contractor eg new maybe Carroll Marshall. When is dansbys agreement up. Mosley would create a awesome alternative in 14.

SF vs Atl= no contest. NE vs Baltimore= tougher, but still NE on top. SB= SF vs NE. Winner= NE.

Darryl Dunphy! God bless Montana!

Logic says Falcons v NE...heart says 9rs v Raves...

Test

I'm a Miami native, but Hireland is 100% right about this stuff.

San Francisco beats Miami like a drum when it comes to REAL money, culture, great food, transit, walkability, and just general quality of life.

The drawback? It's an insanely expensive place to live. Neighborhoods like the ones mentioned (Pacific Heights) are in the stratosphere.

But better than Miami? By a MILE.

Miami IS a genuinely big city, but it can be so damn shallow and ultimately disappointing. It's more a collection of people that just happen to be there at the same time thab a truly vital city.

Most underrated city in America? Philly. There's a LOT going on there for anyone paying attention.

Stuck in South Florida myself but ready to get out.

It looks like SF by 4, NE by 8.

BOYCOTT THE FINS UNTIL IRELAND IS FIRED! WE'RE SICK AND TIRED OF LOSING! HELP MAKE THE CHANGE!

S Fla is a great place to live, work, and play. 70 degree weather in January is AWESOME. More to do then ANYWHERE else in the world. Moved here from Pittsburgh 12 years ago and my family is lovin it. Wish I had done it sooner.

Hey! Steve Welcome to North Cuba.Venezuela,Colombia,Peru,Brazil,Argentina,Chile,Guatemala,Costa Rica,Belize,Panama the country not the city,Bolivia,and south Mexico,

YG,

Caught some of your comments from yesterday. Some I agree with and some I disagree with.

First of all, I don't buy this idea that if Ryan wins a Superbowl this year that the Fireland cries will be out in full bloom. You might be right that people will do that, but it's a weak argument from them. As I said to Kris yesterday, it takes more than one player to win a Super Bowl. Atlanta has done a GREAT job under Dimitroff and Smith of giving Ryan the support he needs and of building a strong team. Picking up FAs like Gonzalez and Turner and drafting guys like Jones, to add to guys like White. It was a better team to start off with and has been more consistent with their adds over the last five years. So I won't hand all the credit to Ryan if it happens.

Secondly, I like your Ravens upset pick of the Pats this weekend. I can't add to what you've said because I think you've done a good job of summarizing it. I just see them as a team going in the right direction and perhaps even a 'team of destiny'.

Guys can tell us how wrong we were come Monday....LOL.

CAN't WAIT RAVENS FALCONS SUPERBOLW.

STEVE

YOU MUST HAVEN't LIVED IN NEW YORK?

NOT ONLY THE BEST CITY IN THE WORLD IT's THE WORLD CAPITAL.


THE DOLPHIN's NEEDS TO TAKE NOTES FROM ATLANTA AND SAN FRAN.

ATLANTA

THEY HAD RODDY WHITE AND TRADED UP TO GET JULIO JONES. THEY BOUGHT IN TONY.

S.F

GOT CRABTREE VERNON DAVIS AND STILL BOUGHT IN MOSS AND MARIO (MANNIGHAM)

OH BUT YOU PEOPLE ARE HAPPY WITH HARTLINE AND BESS..

LOL..

I GUESS STEVE IS RIGHT 70 DEGREES.

SO BEING YOU GUYS HAVE SO MUCH TO DO WHY CARE ABOUT A TEAM THAT's WILLING TO PUT ANYTHING ON THE FIELD.


NY is a great city just way too cold in winter. And no year round golf, tennis, and fishing in NY. And I'm not into shoveling snow anymore...

Fasano is too expensive for what we use him for (blocking).. I think Carpenter and Incognito will be cut to save money.

Steve K, did you know it's been almost two years since there was any kind of snowstorm in the Northeast? People that think it's just shoveling snow and bitter cold all the time just aren't paying attention or are grossly misinformed. You couldn't be more wrong.

It is still frequently well under freezing temperatures. I'm looking at the forecast and the next few days will go well under 30 degress. And you pay through your azzz to live there.

Here in the middle of winter it is shorts and sandals and girls in bikinis and girls everywhere wearing skimpy see through tops.

Few points to make about free agency.

Bring back Brian Hartline since he has good chemistry with Tannehill. Add a veteran free agent WR (I think Greg Jennings if he is interested, is the best fit) and draft a speedster.

Bring back Starks. His production fell off towards the end because his mother was sick and he was distracted by it. But he would maintain veteran leadership.

Bring back Reggie Bush for the playmaker role and veteran leadership. He will probably sign for $3-4 million per season. RBs are not making high salaries of late so he won't get more than that on the open market.

Look to sign a seam threat free agent TE and try to re-sign Fasano since he is a decent red zone target and a good blocker.

As for Sean Smith, he may have to be re-signed by default for the simple reason that this is currently such a big need that the Fins won't want to have to draft more than one CB this year. Just not sure what kind of money that will take. The jury is out on Marshall and Patterson but not opposed to cutting either or both.

Overall, this should be an exciting off season. Philbin will get more of his kind of players, the Offensive system will not be in its first year anymore and adding playmaking/speed to WR will definitely help Tannehill in his developement. Ireland is on the hotseat and will HAVE to get it done this season or else he will be out. For the sake of my beloved Dolphins, I wish Ireland well.

Just the opinion of a lifelong Dolphins fan.


Mando,
Re: Your article on: "Dead Money" and the potential of
drafting a place-kicker ? I believe I read about a kicker that has burned-up the countryside on distance this year. Don't remember who or where the college is, but it might certainly be a good late-round pick. If the kid is that good he certainly isn't unscouted.

South Florida has the most overrated weather in the country. Oppressively hot, humid and rainy for 9 months of the year. It's like having a hot wet blanket over your head 75% of the time.

Lived there for years and don't miss it at all. I'm in Maryland now and it's sunny and you could be in a long-sleeve shirt today. The other guy is right, snow has been nonexistent here for the last two winters.

With a TanneBust they'll need a great placekicker. HAHA

GLEN.... FL WAS MADE FOR THE UNEDUCATED,SELFISH,SELF CENTERED , MEXICAN PEOPLE AND CUBAN WAL-MART PEOPLE ,,,,,,,,

7 degrees in NJ today BUUURRRR!

More like 57 degrees in New Jersey today. What do you think, people don't have the Weather Channel??

Florida is Paradise IMO. I'm not prejudice I love the latin women and the beach.

Gotta agree about the weather down there. It can be GREAT in the winter but what about the rest of the year? I think it's pretty gross from April to November. I'll take having seasons.

I don't hate Florida at all--just the weather!

WHO EVER SAYS FL IS A PARADISE , MUST BE A ROOFER ,DISHWASHER OR ELSE .......JUST HAPPY TO BE IN A PLACE FULL OF ALMOST NAKED UNEDUCATED LATIN WOMEN.

ALoco,

Florida is predominantly "redneck paradise", dont let anyone fool you.

The inner cities and suburbs are pretty much like any usa inner city. The lower educated and skilless in inner cities. The educated, skillful, and small business owners in the suburbs.

However, the rednecks, pretty much dominate the suburds, with the poor and skill less rednecks mostly occupying "trailer parks".

Then you have great mixture of northerners and all over usa transplants making up the remainder of the inner city poor and suburbia. Rednecks overwhelming dominate Florida's rural areas.

Dont stop at the rural diners when passing thru. The absolute hate seeing "yankee" car tags. LOL...

Mr. Aloco, I have heard that your personal hygiene is atrocious and that many have turned their faces in disgust at the repulsive odor(s) emanating from your body and soiled clothing.

May I suggest you begin a more thorough and intensive cleansing routine, including daily showering? I recommend NEUTROGENA products, which leave no oily residue and cleanse the skin thoroughly. They are excellent for extreme cases such as yours.

You are welcome.

YG,


DOES THE LATIN FL GETS ALONG WITH THE REDNECK FL ?


IS IT TRUE,ALL DUMB FOOTBALL PLAYERS COME TO FL THINKING THEY R GOING BE LAID EVERY NIGHT WITH WAL-MART LATIN WOMAN ?

ALoco,

I was actually at a bar/nightclub last night and this guy was jumped by 3 rednecks in the parking lot. He came running inside of the club screaming he had just been jumped by 3 rednecks. A bunch of guys went to run outside to confront them and they jumped in thier redneck pickup trucks and sped off.

So when asked why the rednecks jumped him, the guy said he was going out to his car to grab a pack of cigarettes, and they confronted him because he was wearing a "beenie cap". He said they called him a "wigger" then started pushing him around. But he got away from them before they could put any real hurt on him and thats when he ran inside and screamed for help.

I saw these 3 rednecks inside earlier that night, and actually had a short conversation with one of them. They didnt seem to harmful at that time, but you could see they were well on thier way to being fully "liqoured/beered" up.

Usually a good and drunk redneck will eventually be a problem if they hang around long enough. LOL....

ALoco,

Rednecks get along with no other ethnic groups. They dont even get along with thier own ethnic groups. When they're "liqoured up" they dont even play well with "other rednecks". LOL...

YG...IS A REDNECK HAS TO HAVE KIND OF REAL RED ON HIS BACK NECK ?

TO WORK..LATER

YG..DO REDNECKS GO TO SCHOOL ? OR THEY R JUST DUMB HUMANS?

Hey, Redneck is a compliment. Much better then yuppie!

I lived in FL many years ago and just came back 5 months ago. It is very sad how much further downhill it went. Even in the few nicer neighborhoods, its littered with low class dive bars, massage parlors, nothing but strip malls and strip joints. The clientele just about everywhere are rednecks, the elderly, and struggling low end immigrants. Winter here is great, the beaches are decent, otherwise FL is not for the educated or refined people. The rich that party here are the dumb rich athletes. The classy rich go to the Caribbean, Europe or elsewhere.

Rednecks exist everywhere. Rural New England is full of ignorant white trash just as much as any other location in the country.

The Appalachian mountain range extends to the Canadian border for those with no knowledge of geography. And I have spent PLENTY of time in rural Vermont, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, etc. Much of the local population there is just as uneducated and hostile to outsiders as anyplace in Tennessee or Kentucky or wherever.

ALoco,

Rednecks are kind of like Indians. Most all of them are pretty good people until they get good and alcoholed up. Once fully drunk, thier next goal is to fight. LOL...

It's True,

It's true. Once you get out of the major cities, the majority of the general population tends to be ignorant and very narrow minded, and with the men often very immature.

I wont totally bash rednecks. Most of them are basically nice kind hearted people. They are just used to living a certain way of life and feel threatened if something comes along and feels like change.

The biggest part about getting along with rednecks is to first understand them. Once you allow them to get to know you and you them. Most are the wartmest people you'll ever meet. Most, if they like you, will give you the shirts off of thier backs in true kindness.

You just have to get to know them, and allow them to get to know you. Then you no longer represent "the threat" they percieve you to be.

Negros are like Rednecks. Not much difference...

Redneck 101:

1. Never give a redneck the perception that you think you are better than or make them feel you're looking down on them. This is a huge no-no.

2. They like to kid around. They may call you names when "getting to know you". Show them that you can take "the heat". Laugh and joke with them. Play along with it. Nothing draws a redneck in and making them like you like playing along with thier gag.

IMO, these maybe the 2 most important things in building a good relationship with a redneck.

Also, never go to a redneck bar where no one there knows you. LOL...

Al in NJ,

Like you, I believe "true rednecks" exist in every race. Not just the white race. LOL...

So its supposed to be VERY windy in NE tomorrow which may hurt the long passing games for both teams.

My 2 cents
My father-in-law is sort of a redneck from Pennsylvania and he is married to a filipina woman.

We actually get along great specially when we are tossing back a few beers. His main problem is that he is a Steelers fan. Small price to pay I guess.

So Teo lied about a girlfriend. Is this really a big deal? National news? He committed no crime. How many players in the NFL have done far, far worse?


Much ado about nothing.

Teo is a real mental case. And Alabama showed he's nothing special on the field either.

Why would I want to "fit in" with a bunch of rednecks? I find many of them (but certainly not all) to be ignorant, narrow-minded racists aside from whatever 'kindness' some may exhibit.

I really have no desire or need to be around people like that. Their bigotry is not something I need to tolerate or accept.

Redneck 101 is not remotely enlightening. It goes for all people.

Who wants to be looked down upon? Nobody.

Who likes to kid around? Everybody.


agree teos garbage steer clear

ALOCO = CRETIN JUSTSOMEBULL

YG is very high on TEO as our first pick. YG knows football.

Cognito going to Pro Bowl.

But I know, Pro Bowlers are not good enough for most DolDumbFans.

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