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The cost of doing business ain't cheap

Let's put aside the fanciful talk of adding this guy and re-signing that guy for a moment and consider what all this stuff is going to cost, shall we?

Let me scare you right off the bat:

If the Dolphins want to add an elite wide receiver this offseason in free agency -- assuming one is even available -- it is going to cost around $9-$11 million per season. That's according to former NFL agent and salary cap expert Joel Corry,  who now writes about NFL contracts and the salary cap for the National Football Post.

"The high end UFA WRs will be looking at Vincent Jackson's 5-year, $55,555,555 deal ($26M GTD) as a benchmark," Corry tweeted to me on Thursday.

That is $11 million a year, folks.

Obviously, there are two things at play that must be stipulated.

That price is for a Vincent Jackson-type wide receiver. The player asking for that money must offer that enormous amount of talent. Jackson caught 72 passes for 1,384 yards (a whopping 19.2 yards per catch) and eight TDs in 2012. I'm not certain anyone on the market rises to that level of ability.

Jackson is a deep threat all day long and he also happens to be 6-5 and 230 pounds. (Yeah, amazing).

And the $11 million is the starting asking price. It is not necessarily the final price.

While any elite wide receiver on the market may want $11, I'm sure most will be talked off that skyscrapper ledge to a much lower floor. I'd say, and this is a conservative estimate, the elite wide receiver on the market this year will get around $10 million per season and it'll fall sharply from there. Remember, Wes Welker made $9.55 million under a franchise tag in 2012 and would cost $11.4 million if tagged in 2013 -- which is unlikely.

By the way, the cost of doing business in the wide receiver market won't be cheap for the Dolphins even if they stick with what they got. Pending free agent Brian Hartline, a No. 2 receiver, will be looking for $5-$6 million per year on the open market if he gets there.

Greg Jennings? He'll be hovering in the $8-$9 million annual range.

And the price at other positions won't be much cheaper.

Elite cornerbacks are expecting $10 million per season. Agents will be looking at Brandon Carr's five-year $50 million deal with Dallas and Jason McCourty's 5-year, $43 million deal to stay in Tennesee and see that as the numbers to shoot for.

So Carr is averaging $10 million a year while McCourty is averaging $8.6 million per year.

That's the zip code cornerback Sean Smith expects to inhabit at the start of free agency. And yes, he's likely going to free agency. I don't think the Dolphins will pay that kind of money for Smith. They see him as a good player who still has unmet potential. They do not see him as a game-changer or playmaker.

There are also questions about how Smith will react professionally once he gets paid. Will he cruise? Will he feel entitled? Will the work ethic suffer?

(Kindly post comments on whether you believe Sean Smith is worth $8.6 million per season in the appropriate section below).

That's the cost of doing business, folks.

The Dolphins will be lucky to re-sign Randy Starks for the $6 million a year Paul Soliai got in March of 2012. The Herald's Barry Jackson tells me the sides have opened talks but are not close.

I'll say.

I would imagine Starks will be the highest-paid DT on the team, seeing as he's the only one that's been to a couple of Pro Bowls. But I don't see how the Dolphins can pay him the $8 million per year that Vince Wilfork makes or certainly not the $12 million per year that Haloti Ngata makes.

So that might land him in the $7 million a year slot.

That might well be the cost of doing business.

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MY POINT IS THIS,

AS LONG AS OUR FAN BASE IS DUMB , NOT UNDERSTANDING HOW A FOOTBALL SHOULD BE RUN LIKE ,WITH OUR FAN BASE WHICH CONSIST MOSTLY OF MIDDLE SCHOOL DROPOUTS ,WE WILL NEVER MOVE FROM THE CELLAR ,,,

I still like Ireland

Sorry

Orlando, excellent point about the lack of depth at the CB position...What I would do (And I'm not qualified as an NFL GM, I'm smart enough to realize that, unlike 90% of all the bloggers here) is I would draft a CB with one of the high draft picks we've got, sign one in FA and keep Patterson on board...Maybe re-structure his deal because he is pretty expensive...I know signing one in FA is costly but we do have some money to spend...I would try to do something like that...I'd rather start over from scratch at the CB position that re-signing Sean Smith...But that's just me...

The man only ran 2 drafts period ,the rest was tuna

I agree Montreal

LIME LIME:

SO YOU WOULN't HAVE GAVE UP SOME DRAFT PICKS FOR AN ELITE PLAYER?

Ireland has more busts then Dolly Parton! lol

I like dee milliner or banks in the 1st

Hmmmmmmmm

ODRICK,MISI,AND SMITH FOR JULIO JONES?

YOU WOULD SAY NO TO THAT?

I still like Ireland

Sorry dude

JUSTIN, do you honestly believe the Falcons would trade one of the most promising WRs in the league for Odrick, Misi and Smith? C'mon bro...And besides, Smith is a FA...Why would they trade for him when they can just sign him? I don't get your post...

News flash

Revis want 16 mil. A year next year

For a guy coming off acl how nuts is that

Nj, it is nuts...But that's Pro Sports now a days...And in his defense, he's the best corner in football...Someone will pay him...Watch...

Fellows,

The Jets are in rebuild, they are done for awhile. Buffalo is a mess. NE has peaked, they are going down hill. We are in the best spot in our division right now.

Many of you only know we haven't won the SB in awhile. Ireland is quietly making a name for himself as an up and coming GM. He has cap room, he has picks, he set the team up well for success. Forget about the past, we are in a great position right now.

NOTICE ,HOW THE BLOG DONKEYS SUPPORT OUR GARAGE MANAGER........
ODIN
NJ

TWO BROWN DONKEYS ///////

Posted by: ALoco | January 25, 2013 at 09:15 PM
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Notice how a **Dishwashing** wannabe **Fry Cook** calls people names?

Only on the internet Sweet Pea.........ONLY on the internet.

Now back to washing them dishes - ROTFLMAO!

Ireland has used 14 Dolphin draft picks on skill position players and doesnt have one good playmaker to show for it out of 14 picks! YIKES!!

Notice how the Jests fans love Ireland?

D.THOMAS,ANY ONE ?


THE DONKEYS .........


NJ...
I HAVE BEEN SITTING AND WATCHING OUR TEAM GOING FROM BAD TO WORST ........THANKS TO OUR GARAGE MANAGER FOR 4 YEARS.......
D.THOMAS ,ANY ONE ?

Posted by: ALoco | January 25, 2013 at 09:22 PM
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Yeah except we now have an improved D-Line(esp. depth), better Quarterbacks and better Running Backs.

Not to mention better offensive and defensive philosophies and a better Coaching Staff across the board. And don't forget that dept. that matters the most, wins and losses. Yeah, we improved there also.

Ignorance is bliss Dishwasher Boy and don't look now, but you're Living Proof-LOL!

PS: Stick that in your "Puke Sack" and Eat It - ROTFLMAO!

ODIN,


I KNOW YOU CAME DROM A RACE WHICH KILLING WOMEN,CHILDREN WAS THE NORM.....


THE VIKINGS ARE KNOWN THROUGH HISTORY TO BE THE FILTH OF THE EARTH .

CAME FROM

#1 IN MONTREAL:

NO IT WAS SAID THAT THE FALCONS GAVE UP THE FARM FOR JULIO JONES. ALL THEY REALLY GAVE UP WAS SOME DRAFT PICKS.

IM JUST PUTTING FACES TO DRAFT PICKS.

1st ROUND=ODRICK
2nd ROUND=SMITH
2nd ROUND=MISI


The Vikings were crazy. They were crazy because of certain molds that grew on their foods while out to sea. They were deranged madmen.

Ireland couldnt find an elite QB if one sat in his lap.

Zioink, everyone sees you are just here to talk chit on the team. You have no impact. You can go away now. For good. That goes for your other names too.

Justin, got cha...I didn't understand your post...That was a great trade the Falcons made by trading up for Jones...He's the real deal...That's what Ireland needs to do...Pull the trigger if you have to but get some playmakers...The Falcons traded up for Jones...Our GM traded up for...Daniel Thomas...Yikes...

Is Tannehill gonna be the starter again next year?

WE HAVE A CHANCE WITH ALL THESE PICKS TO REALLY SOLIDIFY A POSITION FOR THE NEXT 5 TO 10 YEARS.

WHAT EVER IT IS WE SHOULD GO ALL IN.

I DON't WANT A WR, LB, CB, O-LINEMAN, D-LINEMAN.

GIVE ME 3 WRs OR ANY OTHER POSITION.

I'm GOOD WITH THE FIRST 3 BEING O-LINE.

THEN WE DON't HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT.

ALL IM SAYING IS THAT IT SEEMS THERE ARE ALWAYS HOLES IN THIS TEAM.

LET's SHORE UP SOMETHING AND BE DONE WITH IT FOR A CHANGE.


Zioink, everyone sees you are just here to talk chit on the team.

Posted by: The Editor | January 25, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Zionk?? lol Learn to spell moron! And the team is chit .....just so you know.

miami will take dee milliner(CB alab.) or cordelle patterson(wr tenn.). however; If jake longs ego and greed become a release him to free agency situation, will will be taking a OL . it breaks my heart to think of wasting the 12th pick on another OL.

And there are 23s other GMs that can't find an ELITE QB...

#1 IN MONTREAL:

THE FUNNY THING IS THE FALCONS HAD RODDY WHITE..

DID THEY GO GET A HARTLINE OR A BESS?

NO THEY WENT ALL IN.

THEY WOULDN't TRADE JONES OR WHITE FOR EVERY WIDEOUT TIGHT END AND RUNNING BACK ON THE DOLPHINS ROSTER.

I MEAN EVERYONE FOR WHITE? THEY WILL SAY NO.
EVERYONE FOR JONES? NO AGAIN..

SO PEOPLE NEED TO STOP LOOKING AT HARTLINE LIKE HE IS EVEN CLOSE TO GOOD.

HE's JUST THE BEST ON A TEAM THAT HAS NOTHING BETTER

SINATRA JR:

I COULDN't STAND YOUR DAD.

MAY HE REST IN PEACE..

Justin, absolutely...I would, however, re-sign Hartline because he's got great chemistry with Tannehill...And to put up the numbers he did with this crappy offense and no playmakers, that's impressive...He's one of the rare free agents we have that I really hope we re-sign...But most of the rest I don't really care that much...Bush and Starks would be next on my list...

Having said that, good night all...Kids get up pretty early in the morning...Later...

Think ahead. We are not a player away from the Dance. Atlanta thought that and sold the farm for Julio...where are they now? On the farm.

Posted by: Lime Lime | January 25, 2013 at 09:51 PM

I'm going to avoid your conversation with the other blogger(s), but I have to agree wholeheartedly with this statement.

Jake Long and Karlos Dansby are two prime examples. These two will be over the hill compared to the talent we've brought in and will be bringing in through the draft.

Dansby is still under contract or he would be just as big of a sticking point as Long. He will be very soon.

Long has to be replaced one way or the other. But with all of our other needs(Playmakers/game changers)at the moment, I'd try to keep Jake around for another season or two.

Ultimately, Long is not the ego driven head case some are trying to make him out to be. Whats more, he's intelligent enough and "Team Player" oriented enough to see the writing on the wall. That's why "I see" Long taking Team Friendly/incentive laden contract.

He can still play at a high level in this league when healthy. So look for him to get paid accordingly. He won't expext to break the bank(again), but he won't want to be disrespected either. Look for him to accept a **FAIR** contract with enough incentives to allow him to "Get What He Plays For". If he plays well enough, he'll be EARNING his money. That's the way it should be.

Mark my words, Long will get a deal done real quickly. A deal that's VERY fair for both sides. He'll also be completely healthy by the time training camp/the seaon starts. Watch for him to have his best season since SpOranus nearly ruined his career in that completely meaningless Pre-season game.

And in the vein of thinking ahead, all this will allow us to draft his replacement in 2014 or 15.

Cheers!!!!


NJ,
IN THE LAST 12 YEARS ,AS A TEAM ,WE FINISHED ALL THESE YEARS ,7-9 ,AND 5-11.....WHAT MAKES YOU ARGUMENT HOLD WATER NOW ?

Posted by: ALoco | January 25, 2013 at 09:54 PM

In the last 12 years, EVERY team out there has had a turn around or let down to one degree or another.

The 2008 Dolphins of all teams being a prime example.

Why do you question others when you obviously don't have the intelligence to formulate an argument?

Just curious.............(whistling Dixie)...........

MY POINT IS THIS,
AS LONG AS OUR FAN BASE IS DUMB , NOT UNDERSTANDING HOW A FOOTBALL SHOULD BE RUN LIKE ,WITH OUR FAN BASE WHICH CONSIST MOSTLY OF MIDDLE SCHOOL DROPOUTS ,WE WILL NEVER MOVE FROM THE CELLAR ,,,

Posted by: ALoco | January 25, 2013 at 10:00 PM
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No wonder he can't put together an argument. He can't even put together a sentence. Oooooooouch! It hurts just trying to read this dweebs drivel-LOL!

And he talks about others being dumb dropouts?

Bhwaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

Montreal,

Good Post at 10:02.

I was thinking along the same lines. Except of course when you consider signing a WR in Free Agency. Signing the WR, our own FA's, then the CB it gets real pricey.

I'm not convinced that we can do all three in the same off season. I think the big name WR and big name CB becomes an either or proposition.

Like you said though, I'm no qualified GM either. So if Jeffy and Joe can pull it off, more power to them. I agree in pricipal though, both positions need to be addressed big time and more than just a free agent or draft pick each.

I would try to sign a WR and Corner(if possible)and draft(at least)one of each as well with high picks.

NE's loss sure feels like the end of their Dynasty. It's been a long time since their last SB victory. They keep falling short. One good hit and Brady Girl will never be the same, and without that, there is no stopping father time.

No team is in a better position to rule the division for the next several years as we are.

ODIN,

I KNOW YOU CAME DROM A RACE WHICH KILLING WOMEN,CHILDREN WAS THE NORM.....

THE VIKINGS ARE KNOWN THROUGH HISTORY TO BE THE FILTH OF THE EARTH .

Posted by: ALoco | January 25, 2013 at 10:38 PM
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Were you trying to defend or hide your ignorance with this in some manner?

Because you've failed, YET AGAIN-LMAO!

Seriously, have you ever posted an opinion even slightly related to football? And by that, I mean a COHERENT post?

I mean calling people Broun Donkeys and Garage Managers doesn't really count, when you consider the source is an illiterate dishwasher boy-ROTFLMAO!

Just Keeping It Real...................

Odinseye
Money is the root of all evil! You don't know someone until there money is taken or lower pay! We will see long is injury prone
Lets bring a young guy that can play the right side that has upside potential. Just like they did to Martin. Throw him in there and see if he can play! But like I said yesterday JI will find a way to use all the money on their own free agents. You see!

Is Tannehill gonna be the starter again next year?

Posted by: Steve in Ottawa | January 25, 2013 at 10:49 PM

My guess would be an obvious YES!

But I honestly feel that Pat Devlin should get every opportunity for tons of reps and an honest chance to compete.

Tannehill has tons of potential and should improve tremendously this off season. Having said that though, I'm not convinced that given an equal opportunity, Devlin could quite possibly out play him!

I have to agree with you guys advocating resigning Hartline.

The chemistry with Tannehill and the impressive numbers put up in a totally terrible situation.

Land us a true No. 1 WR in Free Agency and watch Hartline produce better and better with the pressure and attention being drawn away by our No. 1.

Smith aint worth 6-8 mil a yr. let him go!!!!

If money wasn't a factor which free agents would you bring back?

We have to bring some of them back. Even if your a genius GM and damn lucky no way you fill that many holes.

I keep thinking about how dangerous Bush would be in a Pats or Packers uniform. Like him or not the guy is a weapon.

Odin you can't be serious about Devlin??

building through the draft is a nice idea but we only have 7-8 picks, and you usually find your premier players in the first few rounds......that aint alot of picks to fill the holes--from last yrs draft, we have, what, 5-6 decent players, with Matthews and Randall basically for depth?--will take 3-4 years to build through the draft, at least, plus current players are aging along the way--gotta keep a few of these FAs.......Smith (9 mill or lower), Hartline, Fasano......maybe Starks.....no to Long--and CBs are important, obviously, but the pass rush sets the tone.....and makes a decent CB a very good CB--pressure the QB.

Odinseye

Money is the root of all evil!

Posted by: ray | January 25, 2013 at 11:40 PM
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Ray,

Many mistate and/or misunderstand this reference.

The CORRECT quote reads: The **LOVE** of Money is the root of all Evil.

I don't know Jake Long personally or any better than anyone else here. But being a Michigan Fan I did follow his career pretty closely since the day he was recruited.

I based my OPINIONS of him on that small amount of knowledge. Because of his nature and the size of his initial contract, Jake Long is set for life financially speaking. He's definitely not one of those chuckle-heads that go broke two years after having left the NFL.

This is what leads me to believe that he won't get caught up on the Ego stuff. He was already a top recruit, All Big Ten(etc, etc), The No. 1 overall pick of the NFL Draft, Pro Bowler(etc, etc) and the highest paid Left Tackle in the game.

All this leads me to believe that Long's only focus now will be on winning a Championship. He's already acheived so much, I just can't see a guy of his nature getting caught up with any Ego Driven Bullshyt.

I could be totally wrong, but like I said, I see Long **QUICKLY** accepting a deal that ends up being respectful and VERY fair to both sides. Incentive laden of course with will appeal to his competitive nature and at least allow him the CHANCE to rake in some more big bucks.

I'm not stuck on Long either. If he walks, he walks. I'd just like to see our line remain the same two years in a row for the first time since Tony The Dumb@ss SpOranus arrived here. Most importantly, this would allow Ireland and Philbin to venture into the off season without having to address or worry about the O-Line for a Fvcking change! Hopefully Long signs a reasonable deal and Ireland/Philbin concemtrates on playmakers and game changers.

ValHalla!!!!

Odin you can't be serious about Devlin??

Posted by: Dolfan Rick | January 25, 2013 at 11:54 PM

Rick,

The main thing is that I see Moore leaving via Free Agency. So Devlin needs to get all kinds of reps and opportunities just to prove whether or not he can be our legitimate Back Up.

Having said that, yeah.......I'm serious about how good I think Devlin can be. From High School on the Kid did nothing but win. He overcame quite a bit of adversity in so doing too.

Having said THAT(lol), I have to admit, I'm basing this on an admittedly small amount of game films and youtube clips. I also have to admit that I really have no idea. I do know that I have loved all I've seen and read about him(quite a bit-lol). And Man -O- Man what a feel good story it would be for Devlin to get in there some way and lead us to the "Promised Land"!

Forget about Ireland building thru the draft.....

...Doing some late night draft reading. One guy that is very intiguing is a Stanford Tight End. Everyone knows Ertz. Everyone here would like to see him in aqua and orange. Me too. The other guy in the mix who just threw his name in the draft is Levine Toiolo.

He would probably be the number one tight end next year if he stayed in school. This guy is 6'8 tall, he comes from a system the breeds tight ends. Think about this. Stanford ran 3 tight end sets in 2011 with Fleener, Ertz, and Toiolo..He is the best blocker of the group of tight ends, he may not have elite, even good speed. But neither does Gronk. Both have very bery long strides that make up for the slow foot speed. He has great hands, and although his production went down this year(could be a product of the quarterbacks) he did average close to 19 ypc. 19 yards a catch is something. Think about an athletic 6'8 tight end in the red zone! I would imagine that by the end of the third round, his name would be a great pickup with that second pick. Toiolo!

Remember most guys don't work out. It is real easy to project who will be great in the NFL. It is real hard to get it right. We need an ace TE. Not a slow tall guy, not a fast little guy. We need an ace. Other teams get them in the draft. We need to do the same. It seems like every year people get stars in their eyes about some later round gem. It is rare they are gems.

DD... Wasssup my brutha from anutha mutha!

There is absolutely no doubt we need an upgrade at TE. Your Toiolo choice sounds intriguing.

I would be a huge advocate of picking up Cook from Tenn. I think his numbers reflect a guy that can get it done and has been doing better of late. Since he hasn't already put up huge numbers the price should not be excessive. His triangle numbers are not far behind Vernon Davis.

If Cook prices himself out of the picture TE Fred Davis would be my back-up plan. I am not a huge J. Finley fan...toooo much lack of production with his frame in that offense with freakin Rodgers tossing the pill. Just a career underachiever so I pass on TE Finley.

I like Ertz over Eiffert from ND. Just plain more movement skill. It is hard for me to see a scenario where he lasts until our second rounder and that's where I would want him. He is not at Gronk's(2nd) level and probably not Hernandez's(4rth) either.

With all the double TE sets in the NFL and it being a copy cat league, I believe both Eiffert and Ertz get over drafted. They are the top rated guys.

I like too many other players to overdraft either guy.

Just my opinion.

Great to see you on old friend.

Cheers,

I would keep OT Long "IF" he is not trying for the super deal. If Long can't do a deal that has decent base pay plus incentives to take him back towards what he really wants then I let him walk. I would go after OT Brandon Albert from KC.

We would be losing Longs bloated, old draft $$ deal. Then we could sign Albert at a more reasonable cost. With injury history included this may be a nice upgrade over Long's play of late.

Cheers,

Rob in OC,
If Jake Long doesn't sign cheap, I say go with Eric Fisher or Lane Johnson with the 1st pick. Get your online and Dline guys in the draft because it is much cheaper than in years past. Pick up your skill players in FA or and build them out of later picks.

If I'm Ireland...My current draft would go...

Since FA precedes the draft.. Our FA Must have's Hartline, Starks. Those I want back Long, Clemmons. To a lesser degree Smith, Fasano.

Tab FA must haves WR Wallace, TE Cook and OT Brandon Albert if Long leaves in FA.

1) G Chance Warmack. I know he's a Guard and many folks are not trying to hear another OL drafted early. I get it, I really do. The rationale is that the WR's that will go the earliest will not be anywhere near the 12th pick in value. I am a fan of WR Keenan Allen and WR Cordarrelle Patterson. I simply don't see enough Megatron can't miss qualities to go that high.

I feel Warmack has unlimited potential to be a fixture in the Pro Bowl, All Pro and beyond. He simply whips guys physically. Less people in Tanne's grill and the running game will improve, especially in short yardage.

Seeing as how I believe the Fins want to continue to run the ball to help Tannehill out, you need guys that create running lanes. Warmack is that player. SF drafted a Guard and a Tackle in the first and they seem to be doing well with that strat. IMHO Warmack may be as close to can't miss as there is in this draft.

Warmack is so good that even as a Guard he may be long gone by the Fins pick.

Cheers,

Realizing that the team is going to cost something, Ross has his accountants figuring out what is the benefit of each player. How much will he make if he has a rookie or if he has a top flight receiver? He has to rate the cost benefit to his business. I am sure he understands a winner will put butts in the seats. He will also get a cut of all of the other revenues.
Saying that, is the team ready for these top free agents? Is the qb good enough? Is there a strong team chemistry?
To me there were 3 games this past season that spoke volumes about this team. These three games showed the team is still intimidated by opponents. No individual stood up and showed the oppostion that they were dealing with a tough team. The games were at Buffalo, New England and the game agains Tennessee. In each of these games the Phins laid down like little beatches.
If I were Ross and seen that I had a team the had the brass to fight from start to finish every game and every play, I would reward that team with people that could bring them to the top. I didn't see that this season. There are signs but the Fins aren't there yet. Lets wait one more year.

Biggest improvement next Season should be seen in THill and Philbin, how much better they handle things.

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