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Former GM Polian agrees with fake GM Salguero (sometimes)

OK, so I'm not really an NFL general manager and have never even played one on TV. I have seen my share of Dolphins general manager moves that I agreed with and disagreed with and, I must say, I've been right about as often as they have.

(Actually more so, but don't want to brag. Fact is if I'd been Miami's GM Drew Brees would have been the QB and not Daunte Culpepper, Anquan Boldin would have been on the team and not Brandon Marshall, Hakeem Nicks would have been on the team and not Vontae Davis, Vince Wilfork would have been on the team and not Vernon Carey, Jimmy Graham would be on the team instead of John Jerry, and Chad Henne would have been replaced in 2011 instead of 2012 because I knew after 2010 he didn't have it. I also never would have cut Shelton Quarles, never would have signed Jake Grove and never would have traded up for Daniel Thomas because I thought DeMarco Murray was better. I also would have traded away two first-round picks and a second for Robert Griffin III instead of drafting Ryan Tannehill. Oh, I've also had misses. I would have picked Brady Quinn instead of Ted Ginn Jr. and I would have traded for Kyle Orton.)

Having said all that, I don't really know anything because I only go by what I see with my own eyes on TV or in practice. I do not study tape because, well, nobody's ever asked me to.

But I admit it felt good recently when I read former six-time NFL executive of the year Bill Polian, the architect of Super Bowl teams in Buffalo, Carolina and Indianapolis, run down his grades for some members of the coming free agent class on ESPN.com.

Polian apparently prepares for free agency by categorizing UFAs by grade. A is for starting caliber players worthy of big starter money. B is for guys he'd sign but only if the contract makes sense for the team. C is for players he'd sign for low salary and short terms with low bonuses.

And immediately apprentice Salguero would have a philosophical disagreement with Master GM Polian. Apprentice GM Salguero believes free agency is dangerous enough without roaming into the weeds signing C players. I don't give bonuses to C players. Veterans with a couple of years left in the tank can sign for minimum in Miami because there are no state taxes and the weather is great (after September) and the coaching staff is professional and and we have a chance to make the playoffs because the Jets and Bills stink and that should be four wins right there.

Otherwise, I'm putting young guys on the team and asking the coaches to do their jobs, which is to develop them.

Apprentice GM Salguero uses free agency to make bounding leaps that help the team significantly, tangibly. Apprentice GM Salguero uses free agency sparingly but sparklingly. In other words, I'm not going to use the resource unless the resource sets off a nuclear blast in my division or fills a great need with a star player that the draft will not immediately provide.

Apprentice GM Salguero also believes free agency is for keeping your own best players because you know them better than anyone but also for reshuffling the deck so to speak so I do not sign my own mediocre players just because I'm comfortable with them. Free agency is for getting signficantly better, not keeping the status quo.

I believe when you re-sign one of your own mediocre guys, you are losing value because he is likely to continue performing at the same mediocre level he has been except he's now doing it for a higher salary. Nope, I don't play that with guys that are merely mediocre because I don't want to pay more for continuing to be 7-9. I'll pay more for better player. But paying more for the same caliber of play is losing ground. Am I making myself understood?

(GM Salguero could've been a writer).

To wit:

Master GM Polian graded several players we all have an interest in discussing. I'm going to tell you what he said and remind you how I feel about those players. Then you'll see where we agree and disagree.

The master GM grades Pittsburgh receiver Mike Wallace with an A.

"Wallace is a good route runner, has good instincts and typically has good hands, but he's small and you worry about injury," Polian said. "Inconsistency in the past also is a concern. Pittsburgh didn't reach a deal with him, which will make some teams wary, but this league is always looking for WRs with speed who can take the top off a defense -- and he can do that." Wallcegoes

The apprentice GM agrees with the Mike Wallace grade. He is an A. Indeed, I see him as an A-plus. If you've spent five seconds on this blog, you know this is the one free agent I would sign were I running the Dolphins.

Am I worried about Wallace's size? No, as he doesn't miss many games. Am I worried that Pittsburgh not signing him is a red flag? No, I'm celebrating their inability to sign an excellent playmaker. Look, I need a player that can take the top off the defense, give my offense big-play ability, and add speed to the roster. Wallace does those things. He'd be my No. 1 target in free agency. Period.

Next, master GM Polian tackles Jake Long and gives him an A grade.

"His reputation will make him an A player," Polian writes, "but he is an injury and age concern to me.  He is turning only 28 to start next season, but he already has played 74 games, making a long-term deal a risk. He's missed time the past two seasons as well. Someone will pay him, though."

Well, apprentice GM Salguero disagrees. With respect, of course.

I don't pay for reputation. I don't pay a player for what he was two or three years ago. I don't pay for Pro Bowls earned on name recognition. I pay for what I saw recently and what I'm projecting I'll see going forward. And I don't like what I'm seeing going forward for Jake Long. Yes, he's great to have on the team. Yes, he's a hard worker. Yes, he's good and fills a key position when he's healthy. But he's breaking down. He's played worse, not better the past two years. And in those last two years, he's been on injured reserve in December.

Apprentice Salguero's team will be making a playoff push in December and going to the postseason in January. Players with an A-grade are healthy and helping at that point, not watching from the injured reserve list. Remember, durability is a critical factor when judging players. And on that factor, Long is failing. Jake Long is a B player for me. If he wants to stay with Miami, he can be about team and town and play for $6-$8 million a year with no more than four years on the deal. I'd rather sign him for three years but you have to give up something to get something. If he's in it for the idea that "someone will pay him," as master Polian says, then go get paid elsewhere, bro. We want players that want to win and prove something, not those that are driven by getting paid. We paid you more than you really deserved in your last contract, based on what you delivered the final two years of the deal. Now it's time you help us out.

Otherwise, I'll move Jonathan Martin to left tackle and draft a right tackle in the second round and we'll have two young starters for one-quarter of the price it would require to pay Long. That will also free more money to spend on players that matter more -- playmakers.

Master GM Polian says Randy Starks is an A player.

"He's older, but he could be effective as an inside, space-eating 3-4 or power 4-3 kind of tackle," the master writes. "He had a very good year with Miami. This type of player is hard to find, so I imagine he'll have a market."

Apprentice Salguero agrees. Apprentice Salguero wants badly to keep Starks. He wants $8 million per year? How about $7.5 mill, Randy? Come on, buddy, you love South Florida. You don't pay state taxes. That big truck you drive is too beautiful to get all muddy and salty in the snow and sleet. Plus, we're going places as a team. You're agent played for the Dolphins. You're comfortable here. And did I mention no state income tax?

(Don't mock. New York for example has an 8.97% state income tax for folks in Starks' bracket. On $1 million, that's $89,700. If Starks is making $8 million per year, that's $717,600 more in his pocket every year if he stays in Florida. Over a four-year deal, that's $2.87 million more in his bank account that won't be there if he's playing for the Jets or Giants. In Ohio the upper rate is 5.97%, Illinois 5%, North Carolina 7.75%, Georgia, where former Dolphins DC Mike Nolan might like Starks, it's 6%. Louisiana, where the Saints defense needs upgrading, it's also 6%.)

Master GM Polian believes Ed Reed is an A player. Reed, you may recall, was tied to the Dolphins by some CBS report that speculated Miami would be interested. I don't believe that will be the case but maybe Jeff Ireland is desperate. Edreedhappy

Apprentice Salguero does not grade Ed Reed an A player. He's going to be 36 years old in September. He's going to return to Baltimore. He's coming off a Super Bowl championship so he's accomplished his biggest career goal other than going to the Hall of Fame.

I pay players with their goals ahead of them and who are 26 not 36. If New England wants him, go for it. The Dolphins are not at the same stage of development as the Pats. It would be a pleasure to make him guess wrong a couple of times and have Mike Wallace go over the top of him. Nothing against Reed. I love the guy. He's a U guy. I'm a U guy. But I'm more a W guy. That's more important to me.

I'd rather have Glover Quin for one-quarter the price. He's a tight end lockdown machine. He makes plays. He's also an upgrade over Chris Clemons.

Moving on.

Master GM Polian grades Reggie Bush. He gives the Dolphins leading rusher of the past two years a B grade.

"He's a name, but at this stage in his career, he's a third-down guy," Polian writes.

Apprentice Salguero agrees. My starter next year is Lamar Miller who is 218 pounds compared to 202 for Bush and who runs a 4.39 compared to a 4.49 for Bush. So I'm going bigger, stronger, faster, cheaper. Less experienced? Yes, but that will be forgotten by November.

By the way, if Bush wants to remain with the Dolphins,I'm thrilled. He gets a two-year deal worth about $3 million total. And the deal comes with the understanding that he is the third-down back and no longer the starter. Why?

Because I want my starting RB to average more than 60 yards per game rushing. And I think Miller can do that. If the Lions, or Jets or Giants think Bush can do better than that and pay him bigtime, then God bless, Reggie. Loved having you.

What about Packers WR Greg Jennings? Well, master Polian grades him a B player.

"Jennings will be a big name, but this is the classic question mark: How much do you pay a guy who will turn 30 at the start of the 2013 season and is coming off of two injury-plagued seasons?"

Apprentice Salguero is troubled here.

So Long is an A player despite being injured the past two seasons, but Jennings is a B player because he's been injured the past two seasons? I get that Long is two years younger. Master Polian should understand that Jennings doesn't crash into a 300-pound defensive end or chase speedy 3-4 LBs every play like Long does.

Anyway, I don't necessarily want Jennings but may have to chase Jenning depending on how well I do with Wallace. If I land Wallace, I don't really need Jennings -- particularly not for the $7-$8 million per year he thinks he's worth.

If I land Wallace, I speak to Jennings and see if he'll come to Miami for $5-$6 million per year. He does that, I sign him. He gets a better offer elsewhere, I re-sign Brian Hartline. They both get a better offer elsewhere, I think about adding Martellus Bennett as my tight end -- someone who will be thrilled to get $4-$5 million per year, I suspect. (This one would require GM Salguero to stare into Bennett's soul for an entire day to see what's in there because I have worries about this guy's makeup.) Master Polian rates Bennett an A player.

And failing all that, I keep searching and get ready to draft somebody and maybe two somebodies. I'm also drafting a tight end because Michael Egnew ain't it, brother.

Oh, on the topic of TEs, master GM Polian grades Anthony Fasano a B player.

"Receiving and speed aren't his strong suits, but he can block. As a solid, all-around guy, he'll get the job done,' the master writes.

To which apprentice Salguero says, "meh."

I'd sign him. I wouldn't pay him, if you get the drift. I make sure I go into 2013 with Fasano either off the team or as my backup tight end. If he's my starter again, I suck because I didn't upgrade the position. If he's Jeff Ireland's starter again, then Ireland really sucks because he didn't upgrade the position for the fifth consecutive year. (Nothing personal, Jeff, but good God man open your eyes to the importance of seam-stretching, redzone-playmaking TEs!)

Did you notice a couple of prominent Dolphins free agents -- Chirs Clemons, Sean Smith -- are not on the list of Polian's A, B or C players? So did I. There's a reason.

[BLOG NOTE: Check back later for a post about Miami cornerback Sean Smith. You must not miss it.]

 

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CommonSense....

I replied on the last blog....

Yeah, so did I. Can move here.

I get the feeling smith isn't coming back. SOMe good stuff on bleacher report about FA (I've been bored).

Mando you should be the gm of the fins. Hire me as your assistant gm! We'll make it happen

The best i read. Good

Mando absolutely would have been a better GM the past 10 years. Seriously. We'd have gone to, and perhaps won, a SB with Brees.

I mean what kind of idiot picks Daunte UCF Culpepper over Brees?

Kris, I wrote a post on my views of the Tannehill debate but this blog won't let me post it. Didn't like something I wrote I guess.

Don't really feel inclined to re write it but let's just say that a Qb that wins 7 games without a pro bowler on offense and a mediocre defense hardly fell flat on his face.

Armando for GM!!

Can we please ignore the facts when talking about Tannehill?

Wow Thanks Armondo

Mando all I have to say about this article is "meh".

JK. I actually agree with you. But I think we should re-sign clemons. We know with another year in coyl's system he'll get better. We've tried going the FA route for safeties and failed (gibril wilson?). keep clemons, and draft another safety in 4th or 5th and we also have wilson going back to safety next year as well.

Excellent blog Mando, couldn't agree more. I can see where Polian is (Long) coming from but certainly not A to us. The trouble with Bush is he wants to be a every down back. And Philbin caved letting him try. I'd like to see him
back just not big money and he has to realize his role.

"I mean what kind of idiot picks Daunte UCF Culpepper over Brees?"

The idiot that listens to the doctors that tell him brees shoulder is done

I think we should sign Mike Wallace, draft Cordalle Patterson a 6 3 205 freak like Julio Jones, re sign Hartline. Draft the big back from Alabama Lacey in the second round, sign the DE Michael Johnson. Let Long, Starks walk. Move Odrick inside.

LOL. Lets be fair Mando...based on your past writing...if you were GM the following would have happened.

You would have traded two #1 picks for Vince Wilfork
Wanted to trade a #1 for Logan Mankins
Thought Taiwan Jones was a stud RB
Kyle Orton would have been our starter
Braylon Edwards would be our alpha receiver

Fact is, this team would be a disaster if you were the GM.

Sure, Homer Jones you certainly do : )

Mr Armando,

Lots a great ideas!! Until it comes to Long. I dont sign anymore than a 2 yr deal and 6m or preferably less incentive laden deal. Incentives as in you get hurt you dont get paid!!! or at least a reduction

Im sorry but the man is an injury magnet.

Yes, Armando, on TE Bennett! But I think Wallace wants- and gets- to much for Miami. So pick out another big FA TE and a less expensive WR and give young Tannehill some real weapons.

Miami needs to copy the NE formula for bringing terror to the game. Get 2 of best FA TEs available. Top 10 TEs are bargains financially, being much cheaper than WRs. But their play can stretch the field; provide for a better run game; furnish ultimate red zone targets; and give a young QB much more confidence. It is simply too much of what Miami needs to ignore it any longer.

Armando, don't be too sure that going forward RG3 over Tannehill is the answer. If we had a QB who just after his rookie year had his knee re-built twice and having lived through the Culpepper affair, and without first picks for the enxt two years, you'd definitely not be feeling too warm and cozy about it. I'll take my chances with Tannehill and the first round picks thanks. Even if tannehill bombs, we recover much quicker. Washington is do or die with ole one leg for five years minimum.

Who was that pass rusher/d-lineman a few years ago that GM Saluero couldn't stop talking about? He went to the NFC EAST (Philly, I think). I can't remember his name because he sucks. GM Saluero loved him in the first round though.

Not singing Boldin was just puzzling.

Signing Wallace, Jennings, or Bowe would definitely make our Wide Receiving Corps better. Getting 2 out of the 3 would be awesome, in my opinion.

But, back to the draft conversation from the last post:

I've looked at 6 different mock drafts to see what the so-called experts think that the eleven teams in front of us do. Here's a basic rundown of what the pundits think these teams will draft:

Chiefs--OT or QB
Jax--DE
Oakland--DE (possibly a QB) [it's the Raiders, who knows?]
Eagles--CB or DT
Lions--CB or DE
Browns--DE
Cards--QB or OT
Bills--LB or WR
Jets--DE or OG
Titans--OG
Bolts--OT

Then, came Miami and they were all over the place. One said WR (Patterson). Two said WR (Keenan Allen). One went with DE, Mingo. Another, DE, Ezekiel Ansah. And, one said we'd take CB Johnthan Banks.

So, my saying that we'd probably take a Pass Rushing DE does have some basis. So, some of you need to get out from underneath that bridge you live under (or your mother's basement, whichever fits) and stop making personal attacks whenever someone posts things you don't agree with.

Now, if you had watched tape, you could see that there are many receivers in this Draft faster and more talented than Mike Wallace is, And cheaper, of course.

If he's Jeff Ireland's starter again, then Ireland really sucks because he didn't upgrade the position for the fifth consecutive year. (Nothing personal, Jeff, but good God man open your eyes to the importance of seam-stretching, redzone-playmaking TEs!)

Mando,

Obviously Ireland sucks but he's not going anywhere.

Mark @ 11:26 agree with that 100%. Not taking anything from RG3 great player, good guy. Too risky though with the trade. If it was a straight up pick that would be different.

Also I liked Boldin more than Marshall as well. Marshall is probably better overall, but Boldin is a team player and very good.

I actually agreed with most of GM Mando's picks...(I was never for signing Orton).

Re-sign Long, Hartline & Starks...Let Bush walk.
Pick up - Wallace in FA

Draft - SS, CB, TE, WR & DE for our first 5 picks

...and yes, the biggest GM blunder was passing on Drew Brees for C-Pepp

Mike, his name is Brandon Graham. Out of Michigan. mando wanted to adopt him a few years back (his words not mine) and hasn't mentioned him for years. I guess he's disowned.

I hate when I have posts that disappear...Where do they go??? LOL.

Dude you're an idiot. This is awful. You don't know anything.

If we can make a trade and grab an extra pick I say, (trade odrick?)
Free agency -
resign- hartline, long, Starks, bush(for cheap)
Sign- Jennings or Wallace, Jared cook, Derek cox, maybe another...
1-Trade up for dee milliner,
2- best TE ertz or eifert
2- best available for need
This gives us two lock down corners, playmakers at WR, TE(seam threats), RB. Wallace and jennings would be nice though. Let Long walk if he asks too much, just sign a good right tackle move martin over to blindside and pray for a gem in the draft.

Give me your thoughts and what you might change!!!!

Mike, his name is Brandon Graham. Out of Michigan. mando wanted to adopt him a few years back (his words not mine) and hasn't mentioned him for years. I guess he's disowned.

mark,

That kid was a heck of a player at Michigan. Some people thought he was going to be the next Lamar Woodley. Not happening. Injuries didn't help.

Otherwise, I'll move Jonathan Martin to left tackle and draft a right tackle in the second round and we'll have two young starters for one-quarter of the price it would require to pay Long. That will also free more money to spend on players that matter more -- playmakers.

Long is no bargain at 6-8 mil. Better take the 'otherwise'.

Are you FOS or what? But I KNOW you KNOW things once the activity starts. You let Us know about them and we'll fix the Dolphinsin a jiffy.Yessir.

What about Jonas Gray, is this guy even capable of being anything? That might seal Bush's fate.

CommonSense, in hidsight getting Boldin was a slam dunk better move. Marshall actually set this franchise back considering the picks and how much cap we tied to that retard. I guess that's why Ozzie is Ozzie, Baltimore have two modern day SB titles, and probably should've got another last year and we are floundering.

Jake Long instead of Matt Ryan was just as bad as Culpepper over Brees.

If Ireland was smart he'll do this.

Sign Wallace
Re-sign Hartline
Draft Patterson a 6'3 205 Julio Jones clone
Sign the DE Michael johnson
Let Bush, Long, Starks walk
Draft the RB from Alabama Lacy in the 2nd

Let's remember two things:

1. Philbin's philosophy is to build via the draft
2. We have 5 picks in the first 3 rounds

I say we get one big score in free agency (Wallace or Jennings), then the rest is via the draft.

I just hope that Philbin has some input this year because that Egnew pick makes me wanna puke.

Ozzie Newsome is an amazing GM, and incorruptible.

Lacy is a stud and his stock rose big time after the championship game...the probability of him just sitting there for us in the 2nd round is 0 to NONE.

WNP, I remember being off fro work around the time of graham's senior bowl week and really watched it closely. I really liked Graham too and Sean Weatherspoon who went to Atlanta. Those two guys really shined. I also liked JPP, Derrick Morgan and Earl Thomas in that draft. Thought our pick was going to be one of these five guys for sure. 4 out of the five went on to become excellent players ... Graham, injuries derailed any chance. We got Odrick who's a solid player and may turn out to be a find as a pass rushing DT .. well I hope for Irleands sake.

Glad you reminded people of Brandon Graham, Mark.

He was injured first couple of years. And this year he is the reason the Eagles got rid of the dude that got picked up by Jacksonville (forgot his name). Graham became a starter.

He had 5.5 sacks, two forced fumbles and the coaches love his motor. By the way, he's 24, so I believe his best days are ahead.

Also called, slim to none.

Sign- Jennings or Wallace, Jared cook, Derek cox, maybe another...
1-Trade up for dee milliner,
2- best TE ertz or eifert
2- best available for need
This gives us two lock down corners, playmakers at WR, TE(seam threats), RB. Wallace and jennings would be nice though. Let Long walk if he asks too much, just sign a good right tackle move martin over to blindside and pray for a gem in the draft.

Cofo,

I would love this but the Titans are probably going to keep Cook. I prefer Cary Willimas to Cox but who knows if we can get either player.

Personally I would love to get Milliner but it's going to cost too many picks (which we need) to get him. IMO--Ertz is the better TE prospect & he could go as high as 20 so I'm not sure how we can get him either.

DeMarcus Milliner*, CB, Alabama
Height: 6-1. Weight: 182.
Projected 40 Time: 4.45.
Projected Round (2013): Top 10.
1/31/13: Milliner's stock has been on the rise in January after a strong showing against the Fighting Irish to close out the season. Plus, he is clearly the top corner in the 2013 NFL Draft.

Milliner is fast and agile to be able to play on an island in man coverage. His shutdown ability is unique as he is fast enough to turn and run with receivers, but also has the size to defend big receivers. Milliner has great length and quarterbacks struggle to get passes by him.

Oscar, you say there are many WRs in the draft that are faster than Mike Wallace? So what? It's not just about fast, it's about being good.

The truth is Wallace is already a ready-made NFL WR. He's ready to make plays the first day he steps on the field for Ryan Tannehill. A rookie WR will have to learn to play the NFL game before he can help Tannehill and the team. That will take time. The 49ers, for example, drafted a first round WR last year and he didn't catch even one pass.

I KNOW that Mike Wallace will produce. Can you guarantee that whatever rookie you're proposing will be better?

And because Wallace is only 27, I know he's going to produce for four more years at about the same level. Your rookie will be HOPING to reach that level.

See the difference?

Put another way: I'll take Wallace and give you anyone you want in the draft. Let's see who puts up bigger numbers the next two or three years. I love my chances.

Yeah, today is Friday and Armando is happy. I knew he would share wih us now. TGIF, TGIF.

What about Jonas Gray, is this guy even capable of being anything? That might seal Bush's fate.

DC,

What I'd REALLY like to know is how this Gray--who never even played a down for us all of a sudden 'leap frogged'--Thigpen who has excellent speed & can catch the football???

I believe the Dolphins made mistakes in not playing Miller, Thigpen, & Matthews more so that they would have had some more NFL experience under their belts for 2013.

Mando, what about Philbin's penchant for drafting WRs in the 2nd round. Ireland doesn't love drafting WR 1st rd either. Doesn't that lead you to believe we'll go a different direction 1st round than WR?

WNP, good question on Thigpen. Only thing I can think of is they didn't want to injure him as he put the "Special" in our special teams.

Yes, my Man. Hopkins, 2 others I will not name, ready to play. Cheap.

Armando, I was pulling more for Jennings than Wallace. Though after watching the Ravens and seeing how they can stretch the field with one quick playmaker. I am thinking Wallace should be #1 target. Even if he makes 1 play a game it is worth it. Look at the past year, and add one 60 yard play in half the games, changes things.

Armando, I just heard you on Dan Selio show, jeez how do you even go on that guy show he asked the worst questions?

Anyways Wallace is a stud but I want to put him next to a big WR like Patterson 6'3 205, I know he's raw but you cany teach that height and speed. He did also play in the SEC for what its worth.

Milliner is fast and agile to be able to play on an island in man coverage. His shutdown ability is unique as he is fast enough to turn and run with receivers, but also has the size to defend big receivers. Milliner has great length and quarterbacks struggle to get passes by him.

NH,

If we were one player away I'd trade up for him the way the Falcons did for Julio Jones BUT that's hardly the case with the Dolphins. I actually believe that Ireland should hold on to every one of the picks he has to increase the chances that he doesn't blow this draft. There's strength in numbers.

Like trading up for Thomas to take him in the 2nd instead of having three chances to hit on a player??? That decision sucked.

I agree with mando on wallace. Recievers take time to develop. I would much rather the 12 pick be a corner or pass rusher. Preferebly the pass rusher.

SEC WR's ususlly suck.

If we picked up another 2nd rounder by trading odrick, we would have the picks to trade up and get milliner. probably looking at a 1st 2nd and 4th to get him, but he will be a stud for years! Also, if cook isn't available, there will be some other good TE FAs. As for cox or Williams, it doesn't matter to me just get one of them!

For all I know, Armando, Wallace might work out but only over the top. I don't like his consistency underneath. I$ he worth it? Hmm...

SEC's wideouts suck because there qbs suck too

Oscar, you say there are many WRs in the draft that are faster than Mike Wallace? So what? It's not just about fast, it's about being good.

The truth is Wallace is already a ready-made NFL WR. He's ready to make plays the first day he steps on the field for Ryan Tannehill. A rookie WR will have to learn to play the NFL game before he can help Tannehill and the team. That will take time. The 49ers, for example, drafted a first round WR last year and he didn't catch even one pass.

I KNOW that Mike Wallace will produce. Can you guarantee that whatever rookie you're proposing will be better?

And because Wallace is only 27, I know he's going to produce for four more years at about the same level. Your rookie will be HOPING to reach that level.

See the difference?

Put another way: I'll take Wallace and give you anyone you want in the draft. Let's see who puts up bigger numbers the next two or three years. I love my chances.

Mando,

Agreed. I'll take the proven commodity over the unknown. People seem to forget that the draft is a crap shoot. I recall Teddy Ginn Jr. being pretty fast too....Who cares about speed if they can't produce big plays on a consistent basis???

Mando is right about the speed is not everything comment.

...case in point: Clyde Gates

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