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Former GM Polian agrees with fake GM Salguero (sometimes)

OK, so I'm not really an NFL general manager and have never even played one on TV. I have seen my share of Dolphins general manager moves that I agreed with and disagreed with and, I must say, I've been right about as often as they have.

(Actually more so, but don't want to brag. Fact is if I'd been Miami's GM Drew Brees would have been the QB and not Daunte Culpepper, Anquan Boldin would have been on the team and not Brandon Marshall, Hakeem Nicks would have been on the team and not Vontae Davis, Vince Wilfork would have been on the team and not Vernon Carey, Jimmy Graham would be on the team instead of John Jerry, and Chad Henne would have been replaced in 2011 instead of 2012 because I knew after 2010 he didn't have it. I also never would have cut Shelton Quarles, never would have signed Jake Grove and never would have traded up for Daniel Thomas because I thought DeMarco Murray was better. I also would have traded away two first-round picks and a second for Robert Griffin III instead of drafting Ryan Tannehill. Oh, I've also had misses. I would have picked Brady Quinn instead of Ted Ginn Jr. and I would have traded for Kyle Orton.)

Having said all that, I don't really know anything because I only go by what I see with my own eyes on TV or in practice. I do not study tape because, well, nobody's ever asked me to.

But I admit it felt good recently when I read former six-time NFL executive of the year Bill Polian, the architect of Super Bowl teams in Buffalo, Carolina and Indianapolis, run down his grades for some members of the coming free agent class on ESPN.com.

Polian apparently prepares for free agency by categorizing UFAs by grade. A is for starting caliber players worthy of big starter money. B is for guys he'd sign but only if the contract makes sense for the team. C is for players he'd sign for low salary and short terms with low bonuses.

And immediately apprentice Salguero would have a philosophical disagreement with Master GM Polian. Apprentice GM Salguero believes free agency is dangerous enough without roaming into the weeds signing C players. I don't give bonuses to C players. Veterans with a couple of years left in the tank can sign for minimum in Miami because there are no state taxes and the weather is great (after September) and the coaching staff is professional and and we have a chance to make the playoffs because the Jets and Bills stink and that should be four wins right there.

Otherwise, I'm putting young guys on the team and asking the coaches to do their jobs, which is to develop them.

Apprentice GM Salguero uses free agency to make bounding leaps that help the team significantly, tangibly. Apprentice GM Salguero uses free agency sparingly but sparklingly. In other words, I'm not going to use the resource unless the resource sets off a nuclear blast in my division or fills a great need with a star player that the draft will not immediately provide.

Apprentice GM Salguero also believes free agency is for keeping your own best players because you know them better than anyone but also for reshuffling the deck so to speak so I do not sign my own mediocre players just because I'm comfortable with them. Free agency is for getting signficantly better, not keeping the status quo.

I believe when you re-sign one of your own mediocre guys, you are losing value because he is likely to continue performing at the same mediocre level he has been except he's now doing it for a higher salary. Nope, I don't play that with guys that are merely mediocre because I don't want to pay more for continuing to be 7-9. I'll pay more for better player. But paying more for the same caliber of play is losing ground. Am I making myself understood?

(GM Salguero could've been a writer).

To wit:

Master GM Polian graded several players we all have an interest in discussing. I'm going to tell you what he said and remind you how I feel about those players. Then you'll see where we agree and disagree.

The master GM grades Pittsburgh receiver Mike Wallace with an A.

"Wallace is a good route runner, has good instincts and typically has good hands, but he's small and you worry about injury," Polian said. "Inconsistency in the past also is a concern. Pittsburgh didn't reach a deal with him, which will make some teams wary, but this league is always looking for WRs with speed who can take the top off a defense -- and he can do that." Wallcegoes

The apprentice GM agrees with the Mike Wallace grade. He is an A. Indeed, I see him as an A-plus. If you've spent five seconds on this blog, you know this is the one free agent I would sign were I running the Dolphins.

Am I worried about Wallace's size? No, as he doesn't miss many games. Am I worried that Pittsburgh not signing him is a red flag? No, I'm celebrating their inability to sign an excellent playmaker. Look, I need a player that can take the top off the defense, give my offense big-play ability, and add speed to the roster. Wallace does those things. He'd be my No. 1 target in free agency. Period.

Next, master GM Polian tackles Jake Long and gives him an A grade.

"His reputation will make him an A player," Polian writes, "but he is an injury and age concern to me.  He is turning only 28 to start next season, but he already has played 74 games, making a long-term deal a risk. He's missed time the past two seasons as well. Someone will pay him, though."

Well, apprentice GM Salguero disagrees. With respect, of course.

I don't pay for reputation. I don't pay a player for what he was two or three years ago. I don't pay for Pro Bowls earned on name recognition. I pay for what I saw recently and what I'm projecting I'll see going forward. And I don't like what I'm seeing going forward for Jake Long. Yes, he's great to have on the team. Yes, he's a hard worker. Yes, he's good and fills a key position when he's healthy. But he's breaking down. He's played worse, not better the past two years. And in those last two years, he's been on injured reserve in December.

Apprentice Salguero's team will be making a playoff push in December and going to the postseason in January. Players with an A-grade are healthy and helping at that point, not watching from the injured reserve list. Remember, durability is a critical factor when judging players. And on that factor, Long is failing. Jake Long is a B player for me. If he wants to stay with Miami, he can be about team and town and play for $6-$8 million a year with no more than four years on the deal. I'd rather sign him for three years but you have to give up something to get something. If he's in it for the idea that "someone will pay him," as master Polian says, then go get paid elsewhere, bro. We want players that want to win and prove something, not those that are driven by getting paid. We paid you more than you really deserved in your last contract, based on what you delivered the final two years of the deal. Now it's time you help us out.

Otherwise, I'll move Jonathan Martin to left tackle and draft a right tackle in the second round and we'll have two young starters for one-quarter of the price it would require to pay Long. That will also free more money to spend on players that matter more -- playmakers.

Master GM Polian says Randy Starks is an A player.

"He's older, but he could be effective as an inside, space-eating 3-4 or power 4-3 kind of tackle," the master writes. "He had a very good year with Miami. This type of player is hard to find, so I imagine he'll have a market."

Apprentice Salguero agrees. Apprentice Salguero wants badly to keep Starks. He wants $8 million per year? How about $7.5 mill, Randy? Come on, buddy, you love South Florida. You don't pay state taxes. That big truck you drive is too beautiful to get all muddy and salty in the snow and sleet. Plus, we're going places as a team. You're agent played for the Dolphins. You're comfortable here. And did I mention no state income tax?

(Don't mock. New York for example has an 8.97% state income tax for folks in Starks' bracket. On $1 million, that's $89,700. If Starks is making $8 million per year, that's $717,600 more in his pocket every year if he stays in Florida. Over a four-year deal, that's $2.87 million more in his bank account that won't be there if he's playing for the Jets or Giants. In Ohio the upper rate is 5.97%, Illinois 5%, North Carolina 7.75%, Georgia, where former Dolphins DC Mike Nolan might like Starks, it's 6%. Louisiana, where the Saints defense needs upgrading, it's also 6%.)

Master GM Polian believes Ed Reed is an A player. Reed, you may recall, was tied to the Dolphins by some CBS report that speculated Miami would be interested. I don't believe that will be the case but maybe Jeff Ireland is desperate. Edreedhappy

Apprentice Salguero does not grade Ed Reed an A player. He's going to be 36 years old in September. He's going to return to Baltimore. He's coming off a Super Bowl championship so he's accomplished his biggest career goal other than going to the Hall of Fame.

I pay players with their goals ahead of them and who are 26 not 36. If New England wants him, go for it. The Dolphins are not at the same stage of development as the Pats. It would be a pleasure to make him guess wrong a couple of times and have Mike Wallace go over the top of him. Nothing against Reed. I love the guy. He's a U guy. I'm a U guy. But I'm more a W guy. That's more important to me.

I'd rather have Glover Quin for one-quarter the price. He's a tight end lockdown machine. He makes plays. He's also an upgrade over Chris Clemons.

Moving on.

Master GM Polian grades Reggie Bush. He gives the Dolphins leading rusher of the past two years a B grade.

"He's a name, but at this stage in his career, he's a third-down guy," Polian writes.

Apprentice Salguero agrees. My starter next year is Lamar Miller who is 218 pounds compared to 202 for Bush and who runs a 4.39 compared to a 4.49 for Bush. So I'm going bigger, stronger, faster, cheaper. Less experienced? Yes, but that will be forgotten by November.

By the way, if Bush wants to remain with the Dolphins,I'm thrilled. He gets a two-year deal worth about $3 million total. And the deal comes with the understanding that he is the third-down back and no longer the starter. Why?

Because I want my starting RB to average more than 60 yards per game rushing. And I think Miller can do that. If the Lions, or Jets or Giants think Bush can do better than that and pay him bigtime, then God bless, Reggie. Loved having you.

What about Packers WR Greg Jennings? Well, master Polian grades him a B player.

"Jennings will be a big name, but this is the classic question mark: How much do you pay a guy who will turn 30 at the start of the 2013 season and is coming off of two injury-plagued seasons?"

Apprentice Salguero is troubled here.

So Long is an A player despite being injured the past two seasons, but Jennings is a B player because he's been injured the past two seasons? I get that Long is two years younger. Master Polian should understand that Jennings doesn't crash into a 300-pound defensive end or chase speedy 3-4 LBs every play like Long does.

Anyway, I don't necessarily want Jennings but may have to chase Jenning depending on how well I do with Wallace. If I land Wallace, I don't really need Jennings -- particularly not for the $7-$8 million per year he thinks he's worth.

If I land Wallace, I speak to Jennings and see if he'll come to Miami for $5-$6 million per year. He does that, I sign him. He gets a better offer elsewhere, I re-sign Brian Hartline. They both get a better offer elsewhere, I think about adding Martellus Bennett as my tight end -- someone who will be thrilled to get $4-$5 million per year, I suspect. (This one would require GM Salguero to stare into Bennett's soul for an entire day to see what's in there because I have worries about this guy's makeup.) Master Polian rates Bennett an A player.

And failing all that, I keep searching and get ready to draft somebody and maybe two somebodies. I'm also drafting a tight end because Michael Egnew ain't it, brother.

Oh, on the topic of TEs, master GM Polian grades Anthony Fasano a B player.

"Receiving and speed aren't his strong suits, but he can block. As a solid, all-around guy, he'll get the job done,' the master writes.

To which apprentice Salguero says, "meh."

I'd sign him. I wouldn't pay him, if you get the drift. I make sure I go into 2013 with Fasano either off the team or as my backup tight end. If he's my starter again, I suck because I didn't upgrade the position. If he's Jeff Ireland's starter again, then Ireland really sucks because he didn't upgrade the position for the fifth consecutive year. (Nothing personal, Jeff, but good God man open your eyes to the importance of seam-stretching, redzone-playmaking TEs!)

Did you notice a couple of prominent Dolphins free agents -- Chirs Clemons, Sean Smith -- are not on the list of Polian's A, B or C players? So did I. There's a reason.

[BLOG NOTE: Check back later for a post about Miami cornerback Sean Smith. You must not miss it.]



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I still think Miami should spend BIG & Wisely on FA & use the draft to take best players avaiable! With $46 mil in cap space Miami can easily:

Sign Cason for $8 mil #1 CB
Wallace for $9-10 mil #1 WR
Finley to $6 mil #1 TE
S. Smith to $6 Mil #2 CB
Hartline $6 mil #2 WR

Signing cason allows smith to be a #2 & allows for Marshall or Patterson to be the Nickel. One of them can also be cut to save an additional $4-5 mil in cap space. Draft a DB in the draft & be rid of Carrol.

Signing those guys to those kinds of contracts leaves about $10 mil to sign draft picks & maybe 1 more guy like C. Peprah at Safety.

I'd like Miami to draft a couple of guards & a bruising RB in this draft. Cut D. Thomas.

This year I think it'd be OK to move Jerry out to RT & Garner or a rookie RG to step in. Let the guards develop & replace them both next year.

IMHO, signing those 4 guys plus finding 1 Guard or RT will make Miami wildcard contenders. All of this assuming THill doesn't fall flat on his face.

Indeed WNP, best player available. We can use top end talent everywhere except DT ... even the o line ironically enough. As someone mentioned, if Chance Warmack is indeed the best player on the board, take him, move jerry to RT and pray Martin holds up at LT.

Wallace and hartline and Bess are good enough Wrs, no need to feel to have to draft a WR in the 1st.

Honestly I'll resign Ginn to the vet min and make him excusivley the PR and KR and the 4th WR in a 4 WR set

Hayden Fox, with all due respect, your comment is idiotic. I wanted the Dolphins to draft Wilfork instead of Vernon Carey.

Carey was taken one pick before Wilfork. And when it happened I told Jason Cole, working for the Herald at the time, that Wilfork would have been my pick. Email him if you like to confirm.

So I don't know where you get the two first-round picks dementia from.

Secondly, I wrote a column that said the DOLPHINS were willing to give a No. 1 for Mankins and contacted the Patriots about that very subject. And at that same time, I was saying I would give that No. 1 for Vincent Jackson, the San Diego receiver.

As for Braylon Edwards, yes, I would have signed him in August when the Dolphins were looking around for scraps. But it would have been a one-year minimum salary deal. That was a desperate time. What was Miami's move? They signed Anthony Armstrong and then Jabar Gaffney, neither of whom stuck. That doesn't mean I would make him my alpha WR.

Why would you want the fins to keep sean smith. The guy has HORRIBLE BALL SKILLS and HORRIBLE HANDS. He also is mentally weak and loses his confidence way to easy.

Why do people think Wallace is a #1 answer?? He absolutely is NOT. He is a GREAT # 2 to have when you already have a # 1. Wallace can't run intermediate routes for crap. He is a GO guy. Would be great to have him on the team but we need a beast who can catch short, deep and long. Then we can add the Wallace factor.

Just reading one of the mocks on Walter Football.
I'd like to hear from people on the pluses and minuses of Eifert. Can he become a stud TE or just a guy. Is he Kyle Rudolph or somebody else? Does he help the team at this position for the next 5-7 years or become an average Fasano? Never mind the guy from Stanford, I want to hear what people think of this guy. Smart move? Bad move?
They also have us taking Logan Ryan in the second, a corner from Rutgers. Anybody know this guy? Is he a sleeper or just average? Would like to know from anyone who knows anything about him. Thanks.
Posted by: Craig M | February 08, 2013 at 12:04 PM

LOL, that is one nice offseason. I'd take it in a heartbeat. Address defense and OT in the draft. Like it .. like it.

Clyde Gates = Another Irescum bust

Regarding TEs there are no Gronkowskys, Hernandezs around this year. Sign a FA. I hate Dustin, if he will be a Jets.

How many of those passes do you think would have been open for Baltimore if Boldin wasn't in between eating up people? Why do people think we need a track star to run down the field and the passing game will just automatically solve itself?? Also, speed is not the only factor for getting open deep. I'd say it is like the 3rd or 4th factor.

What is everyones infatuation with having a number one receiver. YOu just need a good mix of guys that can play. Does baltimore or the 49ers have a true number one? No they have a bunch of weapons who can create mismathes. Teams with number one receivers dont make the playoffs. Look at arizona, chicago, detriot, etc.

bidniss wants to know why anyone would sign Wallace when he's not a No. 1.

He's scored 26 TDs the past three years, eight last year when Roethlisberger was injured part of the year and he supposedly had a bad season.

His rookie year, he had six more TD to add to the 26 the next three years.

My God, people.


IMO, even if we signed Wallace, I would like to see us draft someone like Deandre Hopkins. We're starved for wr's that score tds. I fear with Wallace dc's will game plan him away and again we're left with Hartline and Bess, the td-less twins.

Nfl Trade Rumors rate Hartline #49 on its top 50 FA's list. I fear Wallace alone doesnt solve our wr scoring woes. Hartline is a move the chains luxury for a team already proficient in scoring tds. We dont exactly have that luxury.

Paul, what I know is that drafting for need is not a good way to proceed. You should know that, too.

And what is affecting me is that I've seen all these decisions go down year after year and someone with little expertise, such as myself, could have done as good if not better job. That's affecting me.

Armando, why do post get deleted when there are no curse words in the post, and where do they go?

Actually I wasn't referring to "anyone" I was referring to the MIAMI DOLPHINS. Who have one of the worst receiving corps in the NFL and TEs that aren't a factor in the pass game. But you just think adding a go route burner is going to solve the problem.
And look at the Steelers whom have Antonio Brown on the other side. THAT MATTERS! Who do we have on the other side that demands coverage to open up Wallace? Which TE do we have in the middle that takes a safety away?

I don't know anymore, Armando. Leave it to JI to decide on him. Personally, I like Complete Football Players at any of their positions and not 1 track guys like Wallace appears to me.Period.


I also looked at the breakdown on Deandre Hopkins(split and situational stats)./ He is not a garbage time players. He comes up big on the "money downs" and in "money situations. That's what I look for in a wr.

I believe this kid Hopkins will be the real deal in the Nfl. Wallace, Hopkins, Bess. Who needs Hartline.

Armando, who do you hate more Omar Kelly or Billy Corbin?

Yesterday, I understand what you're saying and agree. The Dolphins cannot just make one WR move this offseason. They have to make at least two.

Read the part where I talk of Jennings and Hartline and a draft pick in the post.

YG, it typically takes a cople of years before a rookie WR develops in the NFl unless hes an absolute stud

So lets just pay Mike Wallace to have a CB and safety follow him up and down the field on game day, while we continue to throw tight passes to WRs that cant get seperation.
Now if we are taling about added someone that is a playmaking factor with Mike Wallace then cool, different story. But we still have a cap and the sky is not limitless.

I like Omar, Just sayin'.

As for Corbin, I never met him personally. Never had anything against him. But he attacked me out of the blue and without merit. And homie don't just sit there and take it.

Bidness your point with Boldin is spot on and Wallace wouldn't be a cure all. But he would open things up underneath for Bess and Hartline (hopefully a TE too). It would definatley improve the offense. Best move, if they could afford the picks, would be to draft a #1 WR to use with Wallace/Hartline/Bess. That would be a good group.


Wallace is Mark Duper. Hartline isnt Mark Clayton, not even close. This concerns me when Wallace gets game planned away. The Steelers had a better wr than Hartline to go with Wallace.

Watch him on youtube, Yg, when Watkins was injured for a Game. Doble covered most of the time, he had 13 really down to the dirt tough catches. Ahh, what a Player, what a Player!


I really like glover quinn. Do you see the fins with a realistic shot at getting him?

Slam, 49ers do have a true #1 Crabtree. They use Davis a lot as TE, but Crabtree is usually the first target.

I think Mannigham got hurt, otherwise he probably would be in teh mix (but he isn't Crabtree).

Don't know why some posts don't post. I do know there are some 15,800 spam comments tucked away somewhere. So maybe a computer glitch? Try again, if you like.

Armando your so cool, not many other journalist comment of there own blog. Good job posting on your own blog Armando from time to time, I respect that.

I just see Wallace as more of a luxury than the main threat on the team. The Steelers, who are one of the most storied franchises in the league and rarely have many down years, also seem to have the same opinion. You know, when they signed Brown to the big contract and not Wallace. And we are not in luxury position, too many upgrades to make.

Crabtree is not a number one. His game is similar to hartlines. He just had his first good season this year. He was a bust up until this year. Get outta hear with that!

I appreciate the time today. I'll leave now so that the people that leave when I'm around can come back. Haha.

Have a great day. And if you're in the Northeast, please be careful. Stay indoors.

A wr taking a few years to develop isnt true in evry case. If you worry about that you'll always miss out on drafting very good wr's.

I like a guy like Hopkins because I look at his situational stats and see that he does much of damage in "CRUNCH TIME". If I'm gambling on a wr being a star right away, this is what Im more than willing to bank it on. Nerves of steal.

This guy isnt a garbage stat wr. He's at his best when his team needs it most. I also would likle Bailey or Swoops if still available with one of our 3rd picks. Then we've also upgraded Bess too.

bidniss, Wallace has more TDs by himself then all the Dolphins WRs combined! If that doesnt sway your your an idiot

Yea YG a rookie WR is better than Bess fuckin tool

Why this desire to replace Bess? He has been one of the best slot possession receivers in the league since he got here and is 95% of the time money on 3rd down?

Slam, he also had an underachieving Smith throwing him the ball. He also had 7 TDs over Hartline. Crabtree is a #1 man, sorry.

YES! YES! YES! Armando for GM of the Miami Dolphins! Great article and i do like your thinking. Just make sure you screen very carefully your draft picks. Look for that guy that has that special gift-the playmaker.


Exactly what scares me, opening things up for Hartline and Bess. Im sick of moving up and down the field to score no points or 3pts. Thats the Hartline/Bess specialty.

We need to add a wr5 with Wallace that always a threat to take it to the house. He need be a redzone threat too. That's an area Hartline/Bess almost always "magically disappaer".

Jus sayin
Thanks for the compliment man, youre a stand up guy. Obviously you capacity for intelligent and thought provoking conversation/debate is way above mine.

Yea and hartline had a rookie throwing him the ball with no other weapons on the team. So you put crabtree in the class of fitz, calvin johnson, andre johnson, brandon marshall? I dont think so.. he's never even made a pro bowl.

bidniss, Wallace is flat out better than anyone on the Dolphins yet you bash the guy because the Steelers dont want to pay him so the Dolphins shouldnt pay him, yea reeaaaal smart dude

heh, bidniss I like your style :)

YG yeah I don't think he is the complete solution, but a piece they need. Even Hartline/Wallace + Pass Threat TE could make that difference. I'd like to see them draft a WR with potential.

Folks think that because Wallace scored a lot of TDs for the Steelers he will just automatically bring those numbers with him to Miami, like it is a given. Well my friends, how many TDs did Welker score in a Dolphins uniform?? Kind of a different story in NE right?

Slam, when did I put him in that class? I just said he was a #1 not a HoF WR lol

Just Saying,

Dumbass, because one doesnt agree with you he's a tool? Great because a tools have very meaningful uses, unlike you. How many tds does Bess get a year? What, like 5 for his entire career.

Dimwit, Im talking scoring. Scvoring is the offensive issue, not moving up and down the field idiot. If a rookie wr comes here and scores 3 tds his first season, he's already matched or broken Bess' career high.

When will idiots like you wake up and realize that winning games is about scoring "TDS"? Bess = 1 TD in 2012 idiot.

bidniess, Welker only has the best QB of the generation throwing to him Ben R is hardly the best QB in the NFL. Do you want to try again? Let me guess you dont want to overpay for the guy you rather Ross pocket the money?? Or rather injury prone Jennings?? SMH so of you act as if this is your money the Dolphins are spending

Just to be clear... State taxes are incurred based on where you earn the money. When the Dolphins play the Jets, the paychecks for that game incur N.J state income tax. So you get the Florida 0% only for the 8 home games. The other 8 game day checks are subject to any state taxes in those states.

Jus Sayin
I am NOT bashing Wallace, if I come off that way it isn't intended. I am stating the opinion that adding a player such as Wallace is NOT something that will make the MIAMI DOLPHINS a much better offensive team. I am saying that sure, Mike Wallace is a really great deep threat WR that would be a GRERAT addition to ANY team that ALSO has a intermediate receiver threat that demands attention.
My comment about the Steelers was meant to show that MAYBE, just MAYBE my opinion is justifiable.

That was a great analogy, YG. Athleticism wise,Hartline is not fit to tie Clayton's L shoe. I know you know, YG, but many People don't know that Clayton got his chance by convincing Shula to watch him jump a ping-pong table lenghtwise FROM A STANDING START. And he did it.

Did Master GM Polian have any comments about Apprentice GM Salguero's plan to trade Odrick? I'm still chuckling on that one?

Armando, you wouldn't have gotten RGIII for two first rounders and a second. It was THREE first rounders and a second and the 'Skins picks were higher. So you'd have to up the ante. What the 'Skins got him for was the MINIMUM offer on the table. Who knows how high it would have gotten had we been in the bidding. I have a funny feeling that Synder would not have been outbid for RGIII.

You also never would have ended up with Wake, have traded for Bush or added Matt Moore as your QB.

So with all that being said Armando, I'll stick with Jeff Ireland rather than you making the decisions, respectfully of course.

i think Walker from SF would be the best TE option. Guy does everything they thought charles clay would do but he hasn't come close to doing it yet. I also think Keller form the Jets could be a stud if used right. 2 guys i would much rather have than Bennett. He just seems like high maintenance. I knwo people said that about Keller but look at that team. How would you like having Sanchez throwing to you and Sparano calling the plays!
Everyone talks about the big WR guys but the one i think is a STUD #2 WR - a big upgrade over Hartline is Donnie Avery. This guy was a #1 WR before he got hurt. He tore up Miami this year. He looks recovered and if so is a big time WR. To me you get one of the top 3 WR's and Avery and then get a TE like Walker and you just did a major upgrade on offense.

bidniss, no its not jutifiable. YG oh please everyone knows the one thing your great at is posting under different names and trolling ppl. SO TROLL BE GONE!

are you serious vince?

Just Saying
So what you are saying is that it isn't all about the WR??? That who the player has around him also matters?
Thank you for accidentally making my point for me!!

Damn, I now pray we sign Wallace and resign Hartline, just so you guys will see.

Mark my words. Wallace will have about 5-6 tds because he's mostly game planned away. Hartline will hhave 3-4 tds max. He'll make about $2 million per td.

bidniss, I didnt make any point for you fool. Lemme guess you want to resign all of the Dolphins FAs and draft OL the first 2 rounds LOL

"Indeed WNP, best player available. We can use top end talent everywhere except DT ... even the o line ironically enough. As someone mentioned, if Chance Warmack is indeed the best player on the board, take him, move jerry to RT and pray Martin holds up at LT.

Wallace and hartline and Bess are good enough Wrs, no need to feel to have to draft a WR in the 1st."


It's all dependent on who we re-sign or don't. If we let Starks hit FA then we need to draft a DT. Tony McDaniel is also a FA & if we move Odrick inside the only other guy we have is Kheeston Randall.

No matter how you slice it we have a lot of holes to fill. Need CB's, need a pass catching TE, need another OT, an upgrade @ RG certainly wouldn't hurt, we need another pass rusher.

Bottom line--If Ireland doesn't do a heck of a job managing this FA & this draft well this team is going to be a mess in 2013. And then the fans will be saying that Tannehill is a bust & that Philbin is Cam Cameron....

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