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Kiper and McShay make draft picks for Dolphins; Salguero says be careful about both selections

We are closing in on that time of year, my acquaintances. Draft microscope time!!!

I call this time draft microscope time because the actual draft is still two months away and the games are in our rear-view mirror. So the actual work for the draft involves workouts and visits and the Combine and interviews -- things that are meant to put a player under the microscope without him, you know, actually playing football.

And to celebrate today, I bring you Mel Kiper's and Todd McShay's latest mock drafts.

Both of ESPN's draft "experts" published their mock drafts today and at the No. 12 selection where the Dolphins are picking both went in polar opposite directions.

Kiper had the Dolphins picking Tennessee wide receiver Cordarelle Patterson.

McShay had the Dolphins picking Texas safety Kenny Vaccaro.

Interesting that the Dolphins are apparently so deficient in the passing department (on offense and defense) that the "experts" have them needing both a wide receiver for the offense and safety for the defense in the first round.

That should tell you folks that think the Dolphins are close to competing for the AFC East crown how far this team truly is.

At any rate, let me give you some food for thought here.

Neither projection is wrong at this point. Obviously. But both projections will depend on what the Dolphins do in free agency.

If, for example, the Dolphins go into free agency and sign my newly adopted son Mike Wallace (I added him to the Salguero family that already includes RG3 and Tim Tebow), then it becomes very, very unlikely the team invests a first-round pick on a wide receiver. It doesn't make sense when there are needs at cornerback and defensive end and yes, even safety. That would make the Patterson pick unlikely.

One possibility here would be if the club signs a veteran receiver such as Wallace (yippie!) or Greg Jennings (meh) or Dwayne Bowe (boo!) but allows Brian Hartline to leave via free agency. Then the club's need at WR will remain such that it could require first-round impact.

And if, for example, the Dolphins re-sign pending free agent Chris Clemons, who started every game at one safety spot this year, it is less likely the team will then re-invest in the same position at the level of a first-round pick to take Vaccaro. Remember, I have reported that the team has been talking to safety Reshad Jones about a contract extension so that is an obvious signal one safety spot is locked down.

The Dolphins have too many needs to extend Jones, re-sign Clemons (an expense beyond what rookies make and too expensive to have him sit as a backup) and then use a first-round pick on Vaccaro with the expectation he would start with Jones.

That is the strategic look at the situation as it relates to other moves in free agency that neither Kiper nor McShay are considering.

Now, as to the value of each player, there are some serious questions.

First, both Kiper and McShay have their guys going to the Dolphins at No. 12. But on the ESPN "Big Board" that lists players by grade, Kiper has Patterson listed at No. 15 and Vaccaro at No. 17. Yeah, that's what the Dolphins should do: Draft guys at No. 12 that you have valued several slots lower. In my country, that's called a reach.

Second, let's take a look at the players themselves. Both are solid. Both will be playing in the NFL next year. But neither screams, "I'm going to be a star so watch out!"

Vaccaro is said to be a bigtime playmaker. The Dolphins secondary needs this badly because taking the football away or making plays that get the defense off the field is something the Dolphins need more of. But I look at Vaccaro's stats and he had two interceptions last season. He had no forced fumbles. And he had two passes defensed, not counting the bowl game. And he played on a defense that gave up 50 points to Baylor, 63 points to Oklahoma, and 48 points to West Virginia.

I have not watched the guy on tape, but his statistics don't exactly suggest he's the next Ed Reed.

Patterson?

He looks the part. He's 6-3 and 205 pounds. He's billed as fast. And he's got the overall stats. He caught 46 passes for 778 yards and a 16.9 average with five touchdowns last season. It was his only season at Tennessee.

But dig deeper into that last paragraph.

I would be concerned Patterson spent his first two years at a JUCO and then transferred to Tennesee. Why? What's the story on him not getting in to a major college coming out of high school? Why is he jumping to the draft after only one season?

Whatever the answers, the bottom line is Patterson has limited experience against top flight college talent. So that makes me a bit uneasy.

Then there is this: A closer look at Patterson's impressive stats reveals some issues.

Of his 46 catches, Patterson feasted against lesser opponents but was a much more average player against better opponents. He caught only 16 passes against ranked AP teams and his average was only 11.4 yards per catch against those teams -- five yards less than his overall average.

Flag.

Against the SEC's two best teams -- Georgia and Alabama -- Patterson basically disappeared. He caught two passes for 31 yards against the Bulldogs. He caught one pass for 25 yards against the Crimson Tide.

Flag.

Meanwhile, he padded his stats with nine catches for 219 yards against Troy. It was the only game all season he went over 100 receiving yards.

That doesn't mean the kid won't play big in big games. That doesn't mean he's not gifted. That doesn't mean he's not a first-round pick.

But it does mean he requires a lot, much, tons of study to make sure he's worthy of a No. 12 pick. That is a big investment. And he's not exactly screaming that he's the next Randy Moss.

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Tackle, TE, G, RB, WR, CB, LB, DE yeah...I can get on board with any position but hardly a safety at 12. I'd rather just resign Clemmons. The need for a safety just isn't there this year and of course it all depends on Long, Bush and Hartline in FA. I'm sick of a vanilla sputtering offense that no one respects. I want to see the team consistently light up the scoreboard.

Tebow in your family. That's cool. Add more people who washed out of the nfl. Add Jamarcus russel and Ryan leaf while you are at it.

The later rounds like the 6th and 7th rounds are where you take a gamble on players that were injured, are developmental projects, have character flaws or a checkered past. The Phins could grab a 3rd string QB.

Great article Mando.

Obviously they made their mock picks at #12 despite the players being slotted at #15 and #17 because they expect that they would be gone by the time the Dolphins had their next pick. As far as a "reach" goes, Ireland doesnt have a problem with that. He just "reached" for Tannehill at #8 in the last draft despite his being mostly projected as a 2nd rounder.

your blogs go from bad (trade odrick) to this. patterson is 15 on one guys board so picking him 12th is a reach?? he is 15th because he has more potential than actual playing experience. but i look at this guy and see julio jones at a MUCH cheaper buy in. 12 and giving up no picks.

i also say even if we resign hartline and get wallace in FA still draft this guy. now we have one of the NFL's best, if not the best, 4 WR combo. i also say we go ofense crazy and get a top TE FA and draft the notre dame TE in round two. how about this for crazy. if still there with our top 3rd round pick grab the alabama RB!! our defense can be suplemented in FA and the rest of our draft. even if we let long go the line as it was t the end of the season would be fine with all the added weaponry and tannehill's mobility. maybe we add o[line help too though. but we can save cap space for additions by letting long and stars walk moving martin and odrick into their positions. we can let smith and hartline test FA and find their numbers not as high as their asking price and resign them.

Craig (from yesterday),

I know, I know WAY too much about DUI laws not to be a lawyer. Luckily the only time I got caught in the web was when I was a teen (17). Driving my friends home from a party, had my high beams on, got pulled over, breathalyzer showed I was over the limit (plus underage drinking), but thankfully my parents taught me to always be respectful to cops (when being pulled over), not because they have some affection for the police, but so you don't get unnecessarily effed with. Well, I was very respectful, my other friends in the car were not. Long story short, they ALL got DUIs (being minors) while I got a ticket for "failure to dim high beams" which later got thrown out in Court because I didn't tell my Pops I was drinking and driving and he fought it thinking the cops were just messing with me.

I didn't learn the lesson that time, but in college I had a summer job working for a family friend, who ran a DUI court-appointed program (which is part of what offenders need to do to get their license back). THAT did the trick. Heard all the horror stories, saw all the carnage and effects of a night out. Realized it wasn't worth it, and stopped doing it myself. Probably best job (in terms of setting me straight) I ever had.

So that's where I learned all the laws in VA, DC and MD. Honestly, as long as there were forms of transportation, DUI has been an issue. With all the cars on the road, it's become a safety issue (not a health issue). And there's no face on DUIs. We see it a lot in the NFL, but I've seen soccer moms, bankers, doctors, lawyers, politicians, heck, even judges taking the program. Rich, poor, black, white, male, female. It can happen to anyone. Like I said yesterday, the cost of defending yourself is 100 times more than the cost of a cab.

In todays game reaching for a QB is a little bit different than reaching for other positions.

Grab a 1st string QB MATT BARKLEY.

Grab your balls

I THINK ALLEN IS WAY BETTER THAN PATTERSON.

HE PLAYED WELL WITH BETTER COMPITION.

HE ALSO PLAYED 3 YEARS BROKE FRESHMAN RECORDS WITH CATCHES AND YARDS. PASSING PHILLY's JACKSON.

ALLEN APPEARS TO BE A FUTURE STAR.

HE REMINDS ME OF A LARRY FITZGEARLD.

NOT SUPER FAST BUT FAST ENOUGH.

GREAT ROUTE RUNNER AND GREAT AFTER THE CATCH.

TRULY AN IMPACT PLAYER.

IS HE A VALUABLE PICK AT 12?

ANY PLAYER IN THE DRAFT IS IF THEY're ON THE WAY TO CANTON.

I NEVER LIKED PUTTING VALUE ON DRAFT PICKS OR PLAYERS.

SOUND A LITTLE FOOLISH TO ME.

YOU CAN't MEASURE SOMEONE's HEART.

BUT YOU CAN MEASURE TALENT AND TEAM NEEDS.

AND WE NEED A DIFFERENCE MAKER.

WE REALLY NEED A FEW SO I'm FOR WALLACE AND ALLEN AUSTIN.

RESIGN:

LONG-AT A DECENT PRICE.

STARKS

SMITH

CLEMONS-MAYBE

McDONALD (DEPTH)

F.A

WALLACE (BECAUSE I'm LETTING HATELINE GO)

ROGERS-CROMITwhatever (HIM AND SMITH)

TE-COOK (I DON't SEE TENN LETTING HIM GO) SO BAL DICKSON OR SAN FRAN's WALKER

0-LINE NOT SURE WHO (JERRY DID BETTER BUT STILL)

DRAFT

1st ALLEN ALL DAY.

TRADE 2nd AND 3rd TO MOVE BACK IN THE FIRST ROUND.

I ALWAYS SAY TAKE THE BEST PLAYERS.

GET ONE OF THE TOP 2 OF ANY POSITION.

S-LB-D-LINE-CB-WR-TE-O-LINE. WHATEVER.

IF NOBODY TOUCHED THE SAFTIES GET THE BEST.

IF THE 2 BEST TE's ARE THERE GET THE BEST.

IF ONLY 1 HAS BEEN TAKEN GET THE SECOND BEST.

WITH THE SECOND 2nd ROUNDER I WILL GET WR AUSTIN FROM WVA.

HE IS A FASTER VERSION OF BESS.

3rd ROUND QB-LANDRY JONES

I LIKED HIM ALOT HIS JUNIOR YEAR HE WAS A 1st ROUNDER.

GREAT BACK UP BUT COULD KEEP T-HILL ON HIS TOES.

NOW TELL ME WHERE ARE THERE HOLES IN MY ARGUMENT?

We need a new general manager.

Patterson looks like a breed apart to me. I think he will be the most dynamic player in this draft.If you can get him you do it, regardless of experience. Amerson should be there in the second, and he has the INT capability we need in the secondary. Also, pass rushers are deep in this draft and should be able to get one in the second as well. I like Tank Carradine if the knee checks out. He would be a steal in the second or third.

Haha, grab your balls ... awesome.

To answer your question. Patterson is leaving for the draft now because the head coach got fired, the QB AND his other WR bot declared for the draft...If he stayed, his value would drop and who knows what offense he would see at Tennessee..

DC,

Good story. Thanks for sharing.

I have a good friend/good client of mine who has DUIs on his record. He's a business owner. He's terrified of ever going down that road again. Without his driver's license he'd be screwed trying to run his business. So any time he goes somewhere (golf tournament, party, ball game), he doesn't drive. Won't take the chance. He heas season tickets to the Bills and takes a limo over any time he goes to a game. He's learned the hard way.

My parents are Scottish. My Dad said when he was much younger everyone drank and drove. He said there were many nights has doesn't remember coming home. Scary proposition. He said back that it was much more socially accepted. Again another scary proposition. I think they have really clamped down on drinking and driving in Britain has REALLY impacted pubs and their ability to make money.

Kiper and McShay make draft picks for Dolphins; Salguero says be careful about both selections
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I would agree with Armando on this; the Dolphins need to go WR in the first round and get a guy with speed and quickness. (ability to separate) Getting a guy who also has made a lot of receptions in his final college season. A perfect citizen is much less important than intelligence to pick up the offense ASAP. Moreover the Dolphins need two CB's which can be picked up in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. I would want to keep Hartline and also get a FA WR Jennings or Wallace. Look at all the good offensive teams. They have more that just two speedy receivers. Getting a TE in FA should also be a priority.

Yeah Craig, it's getting really bad in the NFL too. They will have to do something. There will be another player that kills someone, and that will be another stain on the NFL. These guys though have that service to get a free ride from wherever, whenever. All they have to do it call. They better drill it in these players heads, don't waste your career on being dumb.

Anyway, we're one day closer to free agency. And FINALLY we'll see what the team plans to do!

DC,

Can't WAIT for FA. This is the WORST time of year for me in the NFL. No football, nothing happening...it's all just TALK. I like action. Let's so who we're getting. Let's see what these guys look like at the Combine. Let's get ready for the draft. Let's get ready for the season.

HATE all this downtime...

DC...

Good story....

I don't condone the average man for geting DUI/DWIs....but I do however understand how it can happen...not may people have the cash to get an limo (like Craig's friend) or even spen 30 or 40 bucks each way on a cab....and even if you're Desiganted Driver is a drinker...i'm sure there are far to many occasions when he/she finds themselves "accidentally" over the limit....

I have a far harder time having ANY sympathy for the upper-crust....

If you make more than 500 thousand a year...as most athelets do...take a CAB...or make rent a driver...no athlete should ever be cited for a DUI....its just plain dumb...and to me shows a serious lack of planning on thier part....

my plan....I married a non-drinker....altho recently she has developed the slightest taste for wine...dam those reality TV shows show all those housewives sitting around drinking wine....

but for the most part she never touches the stuff...she might have the equivalent of a glass of wine if you added up all her sips thu the year...

so get one of those....

I would like to get Eifert of Ertz, but I think the TE can be filled in the third also. Travis Kelce is the best all around TE in the draft. We need a TE that can block and catch, he does both very well. Lacy won't be there in the third, and we already have an RB similar to him in Jonas Gray. At RB, I like LeVeon Bell. He is a big, strong, agile every down RB with receiving skills. He is projected in the fourth and would give a dimension on O that we need. At 6'2 and 244, he is an incredible athlete.

Its not too late to fire Ireland. Ross, get sense.

Flaming Pies of Mozambique! Little Pepito the Chihuahua is secreting extra virgin olive oil from special vents behind his ears.

Interesting to read Don Banks' 'do-over draft' this morning.

He had Russell Wilson going to Cleveland, Tannehill going to Jacksonville and Johnathan Martin going in the first round to San Diego.

No idea if Tannehill and Martin are going to work out but they were ABSOLUTELY the right picks at the time for us. You do this OFTEN enough and you hit more often than not. We wouldn't be in the mess we're in if we'd been doing this for the last ten years.

Craig M...

or even the last 5 years....am I right???

Kris, I agree. I'm not very "holier-than-thou" when it comes to any substance abuse (I know I've done my share in the past, nothing too hard, mostly experimental). And really, when you see the sheer amount of people who get caught up, c'mon, it's almost human nature to want to make yourself feel good or try and forget your worries for even a little while.

I just think it's not worth it. I've seen people spend 5K (or more) on lawyers, court fees, fines, just to get convicted anyway and get their licenses suspended, and if they took at cab ride (even $50) it would have been much more economical. But some people refuse to believe it will happen to them. Or think they did it before, so why not tempt fate one more time. We're so attached to our vehicles, we forget there are other forms of transportation.

But yeah, hard to have sympathy for a millionaire who has every out in the book and STILL drinks and drives. ESPECIALLY when they've seen all the other players get nabbed. And in the worst cases kill people. I know I wouldn't want that on my conscience. Josh Brent, kills his teammate, and that doesn't keep him up at night? Society shouldn't have to suffer for one person's stupidity, that's when individual responsibility kicks in. You're a professional athlete, great. Now go to jail, welcome to the real world.

Craig, last draft was my favourite Dolphins draft since I could remember ... even with martin in there.

Mark, cause we drafted a QB in the 1st-round in 30 years. No matter what happens, Ireland goes down in history for making the right call FINALLY!!!

I think Ireland will try to solve our need for playmakers in free agency and supplement it with draft picks. He will want immediate impact from those playmakers so expect some proven vets coming our way. As good as our defense played at times last year a couple of more injuries and out season would have gone right off the rails. Hopefully we can get some secondary depth and line backing depth through the draft. Odrick should replace Starks at DT that would be a cap friendly move on our roster.

Just some of my thoughts this morning.

It was Ross that picked Tannehill......

Mark....

What was so great about the draft....

We grabbed (statistically) the worst rookie QB out of the bunch...and we took him @ # 8....


We ollowed that up with potentially the weakest OL in the NFL (you're words...not mine)...and if he moves to LT...he WILL get thrown around and PUNISHED like a rag doll...

we followed that up with a TE that players in his own locker room don't think he will ever play a down...

we then get what is expected to be a really good RB in the 4th...but for whatever reason...can't get on the field....

anything after the 4th is a bonus....

For 4 years I have educated you pro bono, and I shall continue to do so.

THIS IS A RUNNING AND DEFENSE LEAGUE. Same as it ever was.

Every single year, the winner of the super bowl is the team with a stud rushing attack that wears the opposing D down and a stellar defense, complimented by a VERTICAL down the field passing attack that hits big strikes 3 to 4 times per game.

The "west coast" dink and dunk passing offense never wins, in the end.

Never.

Try to learn.

Take off your sheep goggles.

Agreed DC, that is reason #1.

Reason #2, they drafted positions that are most valued in today's NFL. Positions that affect the passing game and disrupting the other team's passing game with their top picks. QB, OT, TE, DE. (So the TE did not impact, still applaud the approach)

Reason #3 - With their 4th pick and one of their thirds, they drafted guys on potential even if their stock fell. Vernon and Miller may or may not turn out to be players but it's widely known they were guys that could've been first picks if they stayed in school (Vernon) or avoided injury (miller). These types of picks represent great value and in these rounds, roll the dice.

DC and Mark...

this is were we will split ways....

Drafting a QB in rd 1 does NOTHING if he falls flat on his face....

Deepest positions in this Draft: 1- DE- some Animals there, inhuman strenght, quick, outtasite athleticism. The New Breed. 2- WRs with amazing speed and talent. 3- S- some strong hitters, play maker types back there, and smart. That's it. You'll see them at the combine, maybe.

It is disgusting that there are drug users here. This is not a Godly, Christian site and too many liberal sinners here!

Kris, really? They got a first round OL in the 2nd. Tannehill played well, he upgraded the position. Miller played well when he got on the field, they had this older guy they paid a lot more to be the RB (who was in a contract year).

It was a good draft.

Drafting Tannehill isnt exactly anything to brag about so far.

Tannehill upgraded nothing. He may be the 3rd best QB on the roster last season.

Nearly every NFL analyst seemed to think Tannehill had a perfectly respectable rookie season and has a bright future as an effective starter.

No offense, but I'll put a little more stock in what they have to say than a gang of perpetually bitter and clueless fans who have never been closer to football than their living room couch.

Kris, explained myself, and keep in mind drafts are not jsut for one year but should continue to pay dividends for years. We may still see a starting DE, RB, long term solution at QB, and a starting OT (although I'm not a fan of Martin, I thought he was more than adequate at RT).

You get that much out of draft and you are doing something special.

Funny CommonSense....

for years I have been reading that you CAN'T grade a draft for 3 years....

now everyone wants to say that this season's draft was the best ever...lol....I say let it play out..

Tanne proved nothing....I saw an article that says he is "motivated" by his peers success...lets hope so....

if we got a 2nd RD OL in the 2ND RD....how do I know....cause he was STILL there in the 2nd RD....

and the games I watched...eben when Bush wasn't playing....Thomas was getting the bulk of he carries....during the rare games that he (thomas) wan't out with a concussion....

Whoever posted as "The Only..." Thank you! Really needed to be said.

Kris, true about the 3 year thing. But since I don't have a time machine I have to give my opinion on it now. THough REAL FUNNY you can call it crap now.

1st round talent in 2nd, but w/e. Time will tell.

Tannehill didn't prove anything, other than being the best QB the Dolphins had. With lots of upside.

The same people that loved Henne love Tannehill. Hilarious.

Many of the Big Names in the Draft have already picked 2-3 Teams that they want to play for and will only perform privetely for those. No Combine You like it? No? Nothing we can do about it. That's the trend.

Hey Mike, they same a holes who made that comment yesterday make it today. And I just started posting here this year, so you're also an idiot. And home you're a tool

It's not the Teachers it's the Curriculum we use in grade School that is setting Us back in General Education as compared to other developed Nations in the World now.

I mean, you don't know World History you cannot possible know YourSelf.

C'mon Kris, sure it does. You mean it means nothing if a team hasn't drafted a 1st-rd QB for 30 years, and went through 15, 16, 17 QBs before even TRYING that route? Think of if they drafted a 1st-rd QB EVERY year since Marino left. Don't you think that position would have been solved by now? But no other idiot GM (or Owner, since the moron Home seems to think Owners draft players) took that chance in a decade since Marino left. They brought in FA after FA, or drafted guys later (Henne), and NONE worked.

Tannehill might not be the guy, but Ireland was right to try. Only thing he could have done better is to take a chance on Wilson (if he thought he was the real thing) or tried to beat out the Skins for RG3. Otherwise, there's no other player at any other position drafted that could have done anything to change the trajectory of this team, not Kuechly, or Reilly Reiff, or Coples or any of the other guys I heard bandied about here last year before the draft.

I mean, if you don't know the Fertile Valley of the Crescent Moon and who their inhabitants were and did, you dont know YourSelf.

Here, draft Hopkins this year. And if it can be done, draft his Teammate sophomore WR, next year. Even better.

Kris,

Listen I know you've become an Ireland HATER. That's your perogative. But are you REALLY going to find fault in his last draft. Of course we have NO IDEA how it's all going to turn out but please tell me where you find fault in the last draft? It all makes sense, even if you don't end up liking the guys he drafted.

So you want to find fault in the Egnew pick. But haven't we all been RIPPING him for years for NOT TAKING A TE high in the draft. For NOT TAKING A QB HIGH IN THE DRAFT? He'd done that. Did he get it right? Don't know. But his job is to grade these guys and pick them. Now, at what point does the responsibility switch to the HC and the coaches to make these guys better and win games. Coaching not JUST about winning games. It's what gets you fired at the end of the day if you don't win enough but I think what we as fans forget sometimes, there's a 'teaching' element to this also. I don't believe a player all of a sudden just 'gets it'. I believe it's a combination of training and teaching and learning and hard work. Some of that is on the coaching.

The Egenew pick doesn't look great but I like the logic. Myself, I would have picked a WR in the third but I understand the need for a young STUD Te on the team. I mentioned this week that the Niners drafted AJ Jenkins in the first round this year and he had ZERO catches for the team. Pretty hard to understand. So it happens. And not all picks are perfect. Egnew doesn't look good at all right now but let's see what happens.

I still think Miami should spend BIG & Wisely on FA & use the draft to take best players avaiable! With $46 mil in cap space Miami can easily:

Sign Cason for $8 mil #1 CB
Wallace for $9-10 mil #1 WR
Finley to $6 mil #1 TE
S. Smith to $6 Mil #2 CB
Hartline $6 mil #2 WR

Signing cason allows smith to be a #2 & allows for Marshall or Patterson to be the Nickel. One of them can also be cut to save an additional $4-5 mil in cap space. Draft a DB in the draft & be rid of Carrol.

Signing those guys to those kinds of contracts leaves about $10 mil to sign draft picks & maybe 1 more guy like C. Peprah at Safety.

I'd like Miami to draft a couple of guards & a bruising RB in this draft. Cut D. Thomas.

This year I think it'd be OK to move Jerry out to RT & Garner or a rookie RG to step in. Let the guards develop & replace them both next year.

IMHO, signing those 4 guys plus finding 1 Guard or RT will make Miami wildcard contenders. All of this assuming THill doesn't fall flat on his face.

IMO it is time for the Dolphins to put a high quality, NFL receiver Corp together. Hartline I love but as far as I'm concerned the rest are 2nd Tier. Bring in Wallace, bring in the first rounder, bring in Boldin, who Ravens are releasing. Bring in a TE who can run that seam. Bring in those NFL caliber weapons. We have the picks and the money

Just reading one of the mocks on Walter Football.

I'd like to hear from people on the pluses and minuses of Eifert. Can he become a stud TE or just a guy. Is he Kyle Rudolph or somebody else? Does he help the team at this position for the next 5-7 years or become an average Fasano? Never mind the guy from Stanford, I want to hear what people think of this guy. Smart move? Bad move?

They also have us taking Logan Ryan in the second, a corner from Rutgers. Anybody know this guy? Is he a sleeper or just average? Would like to know from anyone who knows anything about him. Thanks.

You said "First, both Kiper and McShay have their guys going to the Dolphins at No. 12. But on the ESPN "Big Board" that lists players by grade, Kiper has Patterson listed at No. 15 and Vaccaro at No. 17. Yeah, that's what the Dolphins should do: Draft guys at No. 12 that you have valued several slots lower. In my country, that's called a reach."

You should know that when mocking a draft team need also factors in AND other teams needs are factors that can push players up or down. I am a fan Armando, but your recent blogs are getting a little "fanboy". I think your frustration covering a losing team is affecting your writing. Just saying.

Hartline is hardly a great wide receiver so let him go and get the best available in the draft.
Jennings? here in Britain Jennings is a good beer brewer and NOT a worthwile WR.

I still remember when Mando was optimistic enough to dream about signing both Jennings AND Wallace to upgrade the slot with Hartline. This preseason already looks wasted judging by his more recent posts.

I would still draft Keenan Allen in the first round to play together with Wallace AND Hartline in a heartbeat.

The Only CB I would take at #12 overall would be long gone by then, and DE class of the pass-rusher subtype seems deep enough this year (I really like Cornellius Carradine and he will still be available at late second or early third rounds). So taking a promising WR or TE in the first round makes a lot of sense to me.

craig m,

eifert had 50 for 885 and 4TD's. looks and smells the part but the TD production is troublesome considering how he was a large part of ND's offense. Not so great at blocking but thats why if we pick him, we better keep or pick up a good blocking TE and leave the recieving to eifert.

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