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Live blog chat here at 2 p.m.

There's plenty to talk about the Dolphins as they prepare for the Combine next week.

So this is a good time for a live chat.

I'll be here at 2 p.m. and if you are here, we can discuss the team. If you cannot be here then, leave your questions or comments now and I'll address them. You can check back later to see my response to your comment.

Topics on the table:

All free agency -- Miami's own and those about to be cut loose by other teams.

The draft. Who fits. Who doesn't. Miami's needs.

Anything else that comes to your mind.

Before anyone asks: The team has said the new logo will be unveiled in April. So that's out of the way.

 

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As a Dolphins fan who has watched this offense struggle since Marino's days, i say do everything possible to sign Wallace AND Jennings! They both have more talent on the outside than anyone on our roster. If Hartline can also be retained for around 5 million or less sign him too. We have cap space, we have youth that will continue to develop at other positions. Its a passing game these days in the NFL. Was Ray Rice the reason the Ravens had sucha great playoff run? Was it the defense? NO! it was the passing game and Flacco. Get with the times and sign some passing threats!!!

I'm saying every receiver (every position for that matter) should be as CLOSE to a i=one as possible....
and I don't know how anybody can argue against that....
Posted by: Kris | February 18, 2013 at 10:31 AM

Couldnt have been said better!

"A well known local sports personality when asked about Jeff Ireland responded"

Who cares? Is there a reason you didn't type the name of the "well known personality"? Could it be that he has less relevance than even Ireland does in this world so his opinion is worthless?

CraigM,

Not trying to be rude, I really dont kow how to post anything on this blog to point of where you will ever truly unsderstand what's meant. 99.99% of the time your reply to any of my posts, I go huh? That isnt even close to what I posted.

Maybe I just dont possess the clairevoyant cognitive ability necessary to link with the way your brain's wired. Not that the way your brain's wired is a bad thing. I just lack the ability to "connect" in the sense of the way your brain's wired in comparison to mine.

That's the best reason that I can come up with as to why we always seem to be like "2 ships passing in a storm". Seems we totally dont get what the other's really saying.

Kris, I don't know what you think the WCO is- or ought to be- but the fact of the matter is, and more to the topic we were talking about is, Wallace doesn't fit well in Miami's offense- another variation of WCO.

You have a right to think the offense needs to score more points. I do, too. Big surprise- Philbin thinks that, too. But he will work on getting those points his way, with his offensive system. And those who work to find players for that system will look to find Jerry Rices and not Mike Wallaces. Simple as that.

Just because they play on the same team doesn't mean they are friends. As a matter of fact they play on different sides of the ball and go against each other every day in practice so I would say the safer bet is they don't hang out.

But that is besides the point. Wallace is either going to a MEDIOCRE team who A. pays him a lot more than an established team would, or B. going to a team that is built for a championship run for his asking price. He will not choose Miami over better teams if we are only offering him his asking price.

If he chooses A. over B. I worry, that tells me money is more important to him than winning imo. Why would you take an extra million or two and go to a losing franchise when you're already a millionaire?

I believe if any team that is built to win (but needs that final piece) comes calling you can kiss this fantasy good bye.

Scotty, don't you have Barbies to play with?? Everything you say just proves you are an ignorant troll.

CraigM,

I never even made a post that any wr can fit ionto any wr offense, Where the hell did you get that from?

How a wr fits greatly depends on his mental accuity to pick up that offense, his individual talent ad skill set, and physical ability.

I just answered this question for you, even though I never posted anything close to what you asked.

Why would Wallace want to join this laughingstock team? Money?

YG,

I agree with what you said. So let me take a line from Denzel's character in 'Philadelphia'....'explain it to me like I'm a 4 year old'.

What are you actually trying to say? Your saying WCO implies 'heavy passing offence' (which I disagree with btw). What Walsh did in SF was innovative and creative, unlike what anybody else was doing at that time. It was NOTHING like 'Air Coryell'.

So go ahead and explain it to me. Do you believe there are WRs that are made for the WCO and guys that don't fit?

Your go....

I have to laugh every year when these conversations start happening. It's as if some fans suffer from perennial amnesia. When does Miami get the best players in free agency? Why would the best players in free agency want to play in Miami right now? Jennings will probably be our only free agent wr pick up.

"A well known local sports personality when asked about Jeff Ireland responded"

Who cares?
Posted by: Phins78 | February 18, 2013 at 10:45 AM


By responding clearly you care. If you dont know who it was...you dont know the Dolphins.


Its actually the oc's job to know exactly what type of wr's he needs to run his particular style or version of offense.

There are so many variations of the same things in passing offenses. So many different route combinations. So many different disciplines. Of course you cant have "any wr" execute them. Even in the wco, there are different route combinations, disciplines, and reads.

Hell, you cant even always have success unplugging one wr from one variation of wco into another and he has the exact same level of success. Unless of course he's Jerry Rice.

YG @10:55am,

THAT's what I wanted to hear from you. 'Individual skill set'......EXACTLY. Heyward-Bay would be a horrible fit for this offence, as was Gates.

We need to add guys that 'fit' in this offence. billcale is DEAD right. There's things that Philbin wants to do with this offence and I trust at the end of the day Ireland and Philbin will add the RIGHT players to this offence at the end of the day.

CraigM,

Walsh dinked and Donked to Roger Craig. He used this this make up for the team's ability to actually, you know, successfully run the ball.

So you dont call all of those what seemed like millions of passes to Roger Craig out of the backfield passes? So if you're mostly throwing the ball to the rb out of the backfield, instead of handing the ball to him. I guess youre saying those arent passes, but "extended handoffs".

I only care that the post was a ridiculous waste of blog space. I couldn't care less who said it. I don't trust Ireland, I don't like A LOT of his past moves, but I don't bash him and call him names like a pestilent child would. It solves nothing other than stroking ones ego while soothing some personal insecurity problem. The constant posts referring to Jeff Ireland and his inabilities are neither enlightening or entertaining. They have become a nuisance and waste to the entire blog.

It is your right to continually point out the obvious as it is my right to point out how much I dislike reading it on a daily basis.

And with that, good bye all. I look forward to talking to everyone again when something actually happens. (Or if Armando writes another interesting post ;)

YG,

It wasn't JUST dump-off to Roger Craig. It was crossing routes and lots of other things too. Nobody else was doing what Walsh was doing at that time. The guy was ahead of his time. It didn't hurt that he had the QBs to run the offence or the best WR to play the game.

All I'm saying is that some guys are effective in the WCO and some guys not so much. I think Philbin knows this and what he needs going forward.

NO HANDOUTS FOR BILLIONARES! ROSS NEEDS TO GROW UP AND FIX HIS BUSINESS WITHOUT HANDOUTS! VOTE NO TO HANDOUTS FOR BILLIONIRES!

What's a donk? Is that anything like a dunk? You're a dork.

Posted by: Craig M | February 18, 2013 at 11:03 AM

CraigM,

I never even made a post even remotely discussing this subhect. Yet you posted to me saying: "So what youre saying is......"

Actually, I dont give a rat's ass about the Wallace subject. I posted weeks ago I dot see him as a #1 wr. But I do see him as a fit in this offense, just not as a #1 wr.

Wallace is a homerun threat in any offense on the outdisde. Its up to the smarts of an oc in out to incorporate a guy with that type of homerun ability into his offense. That's exactly why you dont bring Wallace in with the idea of making him a #1 wr. You bring him in already having an efficient #1 wr.

Wallace could be a terror in this offense even had we kept Brandon Marshall. Marshall would make Wallace a beast to deal with for opposing offenses.

YG,

I'm going to challenge you on here. You make comments and I want to make certain I understand what you're saying clearly. I do it with Kris and others on here too. Don't take it personally. You've got some good points, I just want to make certain I understand what you're saying properly. That's all.

Posted by: Craig M | February 18, 2013 at 11:10 AM

You asked me to make it like Im talking to a 4yr old.

Did not Walsh's wco "pass heavy"? If you say no this, hell, maybe I should take a gun and blow my brains out. LOL...

I only said the wco is "pass heavy". Doesnt matter how innovative it is. It does not change "THE FACT" that wco's are "PASS HEAVY". Thats all Ive been saying, but seems youre hell bent on twisting it into something else. LOL..

Phins78, the only radio personality that would say something like that is one who isn't big enough to be granted an interview with Ireland. Or one of the two worthless jacks they put on down here like Rosenberg or Silieo

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YG,

There's more to a WCO than just 'pass heavy'. That's not doing to justice. It's too complicated for this space, so we'll agree to disagree on the simplification.

WCO IS NOTHING MORE THAN MORE USE OF 5 YARD AND 3 YARD SLANTS AND TIMING PLAYS.

IF IT's A 10 AND OUT THE BALL WOULD BE IN THE AIR BEFORE THE WR MAKE HIS CUT.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RUNNING THE BALL OR PASSING MORE.

ANY WR CAN FIT ANY OFFENSE.

HOW WELL THEY DO IS BASED ON THEIR TALENT AND THE TALENT AROUND THEM.

PHINS 78:

YOU SAID WHY TAKE AN EXTRA MILLION OR TWO TO GO TO A LOSING TEAM?

OF CAUSE MONEY IS IMORTANT.

HE DOESN't HAVE THAT MUCH MONEY.

AND THERE's NOT ENOUGH MONEY BECAUSE HE PUT HIS LIFE IN DANGER EVERY PLAY.

WHY NOT GET THE MOST YOU CAN?

WILL YOU SELL YOUR HOUSE FOR $200,000 LESS THAN WHAT YOU THINK IT's WORTH?

WHY PLAY FOR LESS MONEY?

Phins78,

You may already be gone. But I dont believe Wallace comes to Miami for less than $11 to $12 million a year. To me that's grossly overpaying for a #2 wr.

Vincent Jackson signed with Tampa Bay last season for 5yrs $10. 55 million a year. VJ is a true #1 wr. Even to pay Wallace $9 million a year is extremely generous.

CraigM,

Seems you complicate things for yourself. There's never a simple answer to anything for you. There's always more behind the scenes for you.

Life just doesnt always work like that. Is there more to it than a "stoplight" just being red? Yes, there probably is, bust the etire jist of it is when you see the stoplight is red you stop.

You dont need to need to know an entire enclopedia volume as to why. The judge aint gonna care if you try and fight the ticket in court.

YG,

You're right....we think VERY differently.

Justin Incredible,

Just because diffrent pass routes and disciplines maybe incorporated int to diffrent styles of the wco.

Does this change the fact that wco's have a tendacy to pass more than run?

Does this change the fact that no matter what type of routes, they are still "PASSING" the football? I merely state the wco is a "PASS HEAVY" offense.

What is about about "PASS HEAVY" keeps flying over your heads? No matter how you choose to pass, youre still "passing heavily" right?

Is simplicity itself to simple to understand?

Guys,

In the 70's-80's even into the 90's. The nfl was the league of thr "RUNNINGBACKS". Innovators like Don Coryell and his most prized protege' Bill Walsh, came to find everyone cant have a "Great Runningback".

So the concept of passing more was born. Even Chuck Muncie only had 1 1,000yd season with Fouts as qb. Roger Craig had 3 1,00yds seasons in SF.

These were "pass heavy" offenses. Doesnt matter how d
they did it. They were pass heavy.

However, it you want to get "TECHNICAL" while still staying "SIMPLISTIC". The WCO can simply be defined as:

Heavily pass oriented offense designed to take advantage of mismatches imposed on the defense in it's passing game.

The most proficient wco offenses are those that can imposes mismatches in its passing offense either by skillset, mismatch in skill level of the offensive player vs the defensive player, or by deceptions.

Doesnt matter how you accomplish these things, you just have to be able to do any of, or all 3 of these things.

Beit a dominant wr, te, disguises, route combinations, routes itself, etc... etc...

As long as you are throwing the football its the wco concept of offense.

"throwing the football heavily".

YG:

YOU MAY BE ON TO SOMETHING.

THE ONLY THING IS THAT EVERY COACH LIE TO US AND SAY THEY WANT A BALANCE ATTACK.

BUT YOU MAY JUST BE RIGHT.

LOL.

MAYBE YOU ARE JUST ABLE TO LOOK PASS THE LIES.

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