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Patterson talked to media and Dolphins at Indy

And while we're on the topic of wide receivers, both coming out of college and in free agency, let me address Cordarrelle Patterson here.

While at the Indianapolis combine he met with the Dolphins. He's living in South Florida now.

The Dolphins need a big-play wide receiver. Patterson runs like a deer and has shown ability to get deep. General manager Jeff Ireland loves big wide receivers. Patterson is 6-2 and 215 pounds.

Do you get all the connections?

I get it, too. It kind of makes sense for a team with the No. 12 overall selection that perhaps Patterson is a fit in so many different ways.

But I cannot tell you I love the kid at No. 12. He's not Julio Jones, although he says that is who he patterns himself after. He's not A.J. Green, either. He reminds more of Darrius Heyward-Bey or Kenny Britt. He's also very raw.

There is another thing: Patterson went the junior college route before going to Tennessee in 2012. Why? Well, Patterson struggled to keep up academically at times. Thus there are questions about how quickly Patterson will recognize coverages and learn plays and adjustments in the NFL.

The Dolphins run a fairly complex offensive system and offensive coordinator Mike Sherman last year had no compunction about leaving behind young players that didn't learn quickly and play fast enough as a result of the uncertainty in their heads. Tight end Michael Egnew comes to mind.

Even veteran Jabar Gaffney struggled to pick up Miami's system.

Well, it could be argued, Patterson learned quickly enough at Tennessee to burst on the scene quickly. But that isn't completely correct. He was expected to be the Vols third WR but was actually thrust into greater playing time out of necessity when teammate Da'Rick Rogers was kicked off the team.

There are also questions about Patterson being a one-year flash rather than a consistent performer.

Anyway, Patterson spoke to the media at the combine. This is how it went:

(On path to Indy): "It was a good path, man. I had to go to junior college and ended up at Tennessee.
I wouldn’t change it for nothing. Everyplace I went, I enjoyed every second of it."

(On whether JUCO in Hutchinson, Kansas was tough): "Oh, yeah, there were a lot of times I doubted because I had to leave high school and go all the way to Hutchinson in Kansas. I would call my mom every day and ask her if she still thought I needed to do this and she said, ‘Yeah, it’s been your
dream for a long time so just make sure you stick with it."

(On the season at Tennessee): "I wanted to go in and try to be the best at my position and hope my dream would come true and be in the NFL."

(On whether he can help himself at the Combine): "Go in Saturday and Sunday and give it my best and make sure I do everything right so teams can look at me and say good things about myself."

(On whether you need a big week to go in the first round): "I know I can help myself a lot. I know what I can do. I’m going to go in and just give it my all."

(On whether he patterns himself after any receiver?): "Yeah, Julio Jones."

(On people saying you’re a one-year wonder): "I didn’t expect to be a one-year-and-done but we had the coaching change and everything was getting a little crazy, so I wanted to get out of there."

(Name three strengths): "Speed, catching and scoring."

(On expectations for NFL): "The things I did in college, I expect to come in as a rookie and be a good rookie and be a Pro Bowler."

(On experts saying he's raw): "I don’t listen to anything anyone says about my ability. God gave it to me and I go out every day and practice hard at practice, and in the games I expect big things out of myself."

(On going to the Dolphins): "I haven’t talked to them like that but I have a meeting set with them later on today. Miami is my home and I’ll do whatever I have to do."

(On being the No. 1 WR drafted): "I really didn’t even think like that. There’s rumors coming around that I can be and I hope this weekend I can show that I can be that No. 1 receiver."

(On possibly going to Carolina): "My mama, she talks about that all the time. If I could be that close to home, I know she’d be at every game possible. When I was little, I used to always think about playing for the Panthers. If that dream comes true, then it comes true."

(On what he must improve): "My route-running and learning coverages, just getting better at that."

(On expecting to be good as a junior at UT): "I didn’t, because when I went to Tennessee, I didn’t even think I was going to be a starter. But then I went in and some things happened at Tennessee and people started expecting big things from me, so I had to fill that role."

(On whether he's a top 10 player): "I say I’m a top-15 pick but I can’t control what coaches think and they’re the ones that make the decisions. If they see me in the top 15, top 10, then I respect that because I think I am."

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Posted by: Just FYI | February 26, 2013 at 10:27 AM

Tell us more Yesterday's Gone 4Ever

I watched some of the rebroadcast of the combine yesterday, and if anyone cares I'm about to do some serious back-pedaling, and eat a few bites of crow.

Many of the guys i thought were all-that ... didn't pass the eye test. DEs and LBs (and even WR) that I just HAD to have in the first round, looked like wannabes once you saw them up close.
And all that jawing I did to stay away from picking an O Lineman - well... if the other prospects don't measure up, even I wouldn't pass up a quality tackle to replace Long.

My little pretender draft board has been tossed into a jumble.
I can honestly say I have no idea who to pick 1st now.
There's still some hope for a few guys I liked, but I really need to go back and gather myself and re-evaluate what's there.

Ugh. Tough draft year.

Fire Ireland,

You're right, that's why we have $46mil in cap space, third most in the NFL. Far better to be the Jets and over the cap. Great point!

Next up march 12th free agency opens 2 weeks till madness

In order of Best blogger to worst:

1. #1 Montreal
2. Toronto Mark
3. Craig Moron

Morons always finish last.

Craig M for Moron = CLUELESS

Davd Amerson burning up the track,4.38 A consideration.

This still all comes down to what the Fins do in FA and with the tag. I don't see them going for Patterson at 12 if they land Wallace and resign Hartline. No matter what happens we need to give Tanny a TE or we will still be short on weapons!!

JS,

I wouldn't put so much stock in the Combine. Means NOTHING really.

Having said that, I kind like the Honey Badger. Yeah he only did 4 reps in the bench press today but I think as a 4th or 5th round pick he's worth the risk.

Man Sean smith really sucks huh

Dee milliner can't catch either hand of stone he clearly fits our team hahahahahaah

Hey Tradition - You're and idiot and probably and product of inbreeding. Out of towners. Football is a global sport. So sit back, chew your tobacco and watch your black and white TV in your trailer.

Looks like I've got a groupie....

OK fellas, have a good one!

Fire Ireland,

You're right, that's why we have $46mil in cap space, third most in the NFL. Far better to be the Jets and over the cap. Great point!

Posted by: Craig M | February 26, 2013 at 10:34 AM

You dope! Yea, all that cap space & STILL not enough to fill ALL the holes!

What good is $46 mil in cap space when you have no LT, no #1 or #2 WR, No #1 Cb or healthy #2 CB, no #2 safety, no #1 or #2 TE & no complimentary pass rusher.

With a wish list like that, Ireland will need $80 million!

Instead of foaming at the mouth, why don't you educate yourself!

Te'o was scrutinized more than anyone I've ever seen (maybe Tebow), and I got a good look at him, and came to a pretty quick and easy decision on him:

He's not a first or second round pick. Period.
6'1, 240, and a soft 240 (not cut). He looks soft and small compared to other LBs. Honestly he resembles more of a Polamalu type safety than a MLB. There's just no serious threat in his physique. Pushing against NFL linemen to get at a RB ... nope. He'll be pushed aside.
Not to say he can't get bulkier and more defined, and grow into the position.. but not in the top rounds.

His 40 was slow, but I don't put stock in a flat straight run for a MLB. His lateral was actually pretty decent, and he does fine with the usual LB type drills. He just has no imposing style .. sits back too far, shoulders up, just looks timid.

THEN.. after all that, he lied about his previous 40 times. Told the media he ran slow because it was a long day, and he usually runs 4.5s or 4.6s.
PUHLEEEEEASE!
I watched his technique. No chance in hell he can run faster than a 4.75 if a hurricane was blowing behind his back.
That was it for me. All the questions about his head.. juts got answered. He simply doesn't live in the real world.
Done.

...Craig M...JS in LA.. We talked Honey Badger yesterday. What did I tell you about his cover skills? I am going to be a bit of a hypocrite to establish my point. But I have to do it. 4 reps in the bench press? does that give you any hint as far as how he may struggle in the pros v wide recievers?

This Honey Badger fantasy is built of staright highlight reel pipe dreams...

You guys are welcome to your opinions. I respect them both. But you still have a chance to find a football player that can contribute in the later rounds. I don't think it is worth throwing it away. I don't think the guy will be able to play in the league..So to me it isn't worth exploring.

Craig M is the protype to building the perfect idiot.

We have players that underperform due to bad coaching of the past would you resign these players ,,,,,,,,hell no it's time to move on , go get um jeffy

Horny Badger, Bankslook great on the drills.

By the way, I'm gay.

Mando, let's not even go there with Patterson (that he may not be able to grasp the NFL reads because of his academic performance). Dan Marino scored a 15 on the Wonderlic and that didn't stop him from destroying defenses.

On a fake team teo would be a starrrrr !!!!!!

billcale, say what you want but you are incorrect that Patterson is predominantly a body catcher. I demand that you show me proof because you wont find him catching more to the body than with his hands. Go search "Patterson vs Kentucky" and see where he makes all his catches and they are not to the body. Neither were some of thec atches he had vs Florida, NCSTATE, Mississippi State, Albama. He does catch to the body sometimes but 75% of his catches are with his arms extended and I can find you all the proof on video anytime you'd like.

..JS..Yesterday during the TE'O hour. I came to his defense. I did say that the Hoax bothered me more then his game v Bama...I agree that he comes across as a complete dumpster fire. A drama queen. He may do best for himself to just shut up.

BTW,
Ogletree got a good amount of airtime in drills too. If you care, here's what i saw.
A SAFETY.
slender, cut, decently fast, but a bit long strided for a LB. He resembled those big safeties from the 80's-90's that would punish runners, and try to beat jump balls, but a MLBer?... Doesn't look like he fits.
MAYBE an OLB.
He works well in coverage drills, and the line on him is that he DOES coever very well, especially since he is a converted safety (didn't know that, but absolutely fits).
But that stout center of balance you want a MLB to have he just doesn't have. Looks even awkward at times runninglaterally, and getting wide for a tackle.

Can't say he's a top round choice for MLB either.
The choices just plain are dwindling.
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Watched Dion Jordan run his drills, and I know very little about him but he looked like he could handle being an OLB, and that's where he's projected. Got the top round body, speed, and skillset it appears. But I simply don't knwo how well he'd transition.
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The best LBs by far in their workouts/drills were Bostic, Washington (UGA) and Moore (UConn). But their game film is so-so.
So here we go again.

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Margus Hunt looked like freaking The Incredible Hulk. Dude would scare the crap outta whoever he lined up against. I'm liking that guy more and more.... BUT he's 26. AND he's not played football very long (was track and field before). Soooo... another project maybe. But daaaaaamn he looked monsterous. 38 reps on the bench, fast 40, 6'8", and cut like a superhero.

Pick 'em.. Where? I don't know, but pick 'em!

..Al in NJ...Nice post@10:52

4 REPS!?!?!?!?!??! Did he bench with one arm????

Pff, he can sit on the bong couch with D. Moore and J. Martin. Weak azzessss. This is the NFL!!!

I agree that is a bunch of small receivers to have on the team (Austin, Swope, Hartline, Bess) but it may work under Philbin's system. I beleive Sherman is looking for fast receivers that are great route runners. With all the emphasis being put on player safety, amall players may prove to be a little bit more durable. In any event, I beleive the biggest playmaking WR in this draft is Tavon Austin. He is small but strong, fast, and just has a knack for the big play. Swope is also fast and was one of the strongest WRs in the bench press at the combine.

As much as I like Ertz and Eifert, I don't think we are in position to draft them unless we over reach with the 12th pick. I would say if we can't get a WR in FA, then go after a TE (Finley or Kellar). There are also some good options that may be available in the 3rd round (Escobar, McDonald, Sims, Reed, andKelce).

Honey Badger has swag I really like this kid ,,,,,keep him off the weed and you have a probowler

JS, margus Hunt is a big strong Euro boy. May be the next Haloti Ngata .. or can be teh next Broderick Bunkley .. tough call but the measurables and athleticism are off the chart as you said.

Milliner looks big as hell.

Orlando I will grant you that Swope is smallish but strong AND TOUGH. If you want to watch tape of an impressive performance, watch him against the team that amny failed against - ALABAMA. Those DBs tried to kill him physically and he kept making the tough catch. he was a MAN in that game. You give me that kid and I know we will have something. Might not be a pro bowler but he will be a gamer.

Craig,

I know that there is a big drop off in talent CB after Millner but we may have to over reach a bit in this draft to fill a need. Ideally I would like for us to trade down and pick another 2nd rounder but that is easier said than done. Assuming we stay at 12, the only way we get value at that pick is if either Millner slips or you have to go with a lineman. OL and DL is where the strength of this draft is at the top.

If we go with BPA then I would take either Chance Warmack, Erick Fisher OT, or Dion Jordan DE. I am sure there may be others that can qualify as BPA but they are all linemen. BTW- Warmack is probably the best player in the draft and becuase he plays guard could slip to us, the question is does Ireland pull the trigger?

Craig, I don't normally put much stock int he combines either. I don't find uys there, I confrim or deny guys though. And yesterday was an eye opener.

Damontre Moore looked scrawny. Period. His bench reps confrimed what the eye saw.

Werner looks like an offensive guard not a DE. Kinda flabby. Doesn't scream quick, nimble, versatile. Looks like he eats donuts and pushes things. I still like him, but not first round anymore.

Montgomery looks OK, but again, not speical. Didn't look special in college either.

Mingo looks like an OLB alright. But He's a tweener, so how well will he take to an alltime OLB position? Probably more of a 3-4 guy.

Te'o looked puny.

The only guy that I thought looked better than his film was Margus Hunt. Dude is a giant in every way.

Most of the LBs looked lost during simple drills. The cocach running the drills was frustrated with them.

My fave WR Hopkins ran a 4.57. Criminy.

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I have no idea anymore. Trade down, I guess. Most everybody belongs in the 2nd 3rd round this year. Ugh.

..Do you guys think Ireland will ask TE'O if he is a mericon?

Keenan Allen would be the top WR if not for his knee injury that didn't require surgery. He should be the pick at 12, a polished very skilled WR that fits our offense. I don't hate Patterson but when you get over the hype and look at the facts he padded his stats against weak defenses and was outmatched against strong defenses. Jeff Ireland needs a guy who is ready to play week 1 with the #12 pick because he needs to save his job. Patterson may be a great receiver some day but he isn't yet and Jeff doesn't have that kind of time.

The only sure bet I have for first round is Jarvis Jones, and Matt Elam.

Jones will porb not be there for us, though.
Elam might, and even though I didn't want a safety round one... running out of good bets.

Lots of good Olinemen in the draft. yay... another lineman. COuldn't blame JI for doing it this year though.

Holy crap.

I do like Patterson a lot, and also Margus Hunt. But damnit, I hate taking projects round 1.

Go Elam. I guarentee he locks up his position for a career. Seen enough of him, and he's got what it takes.

Dangit. Safety, round 1. yippee.

mark, I defintiely want Hunt on my team, I just have no idea where he should be picked. In all ways, he's the definition of a project... somethinG Irelnd associates well with. But if he's round 1, folks expect him to be instant star, and I don't think that's his best chance to succeed.

It is a hard call.
I suppose, round 2, if he's there, grab and run.

but, looking at the choices... so hard to say. Nobody is a lock.

ITS A HOMER FEST!!

Ireland is going to ask Te'o if his Girlfriend is a prostitute.

Well, Hunt does have a first round grade but not as high as 12, but who does. If you ask me, if you want the best player, it's Chance Warmack - been saying that for a while. Couldn't blame them for going that way. You know you would get a perennial pro bowl player - only player you know you can say that about in this draft ... but it's a guard ...

Who the guy who posted patterson is going in 3rd round. You knkw nothing about the draft. Stop acting like you do.

yay.
A pro-bowl, star, franchise guard.

I hear ya, and I'm not disagreeing.
Just choking down bile.

DD @ 11:08. Maybe Ireland can imply it in his eyeblack like Yunel Escobar?

DD @ 11:08

Best post of the day! No shyte. I really LOL.

Does anybody else see how f#cking greedy Flacco, Brees, & Peyton are compared to Brady??? Taking less for the good of the team certainly helps when you're trying to win a SB every year. I'm not saying that the other guys I mentioned don't want to win but based on a salary cap of $120 Million they're limiting their teams from paying other guy. In the end I think it's a fair question that when these QB's take their teams 'hostage' (like Brees did & now Flacco is doing) what's more important--the money or winning. Now that Flacco won a SB it sounds like he care more about making top QB money more than he wants to win another SB.

With all the money that we paid Jake Long he's still looking for the highest offer. I think that should tell you all you need to know about Long & most of the players in the NFL. Soliai on the other hand took less to stay in Miami.

Damontre Moore really hurt his stock in the draft. He will probably drop out of the top 10 with his weak performance. I beleive Ryan Swope had more bench prench reps than he did and he is a WR. A weak performance last year dropped Jonathen Martin to the 2nd round. I remember before the combine last year some people were saying Martin could go top 10 and instead he dropped to 10th in the second round to the fins.

So Moore may also be an option for 12 for us. Does Ireland pull the the trigger on Moore?

And all that jawing I did to stay away from picking an O Lineman - well... if the other prospects don't measure up, even I wouldn't pass up a quality tackle to replace Long.

JS,

That's why I like Lane Johnson or Jonathan Cooper at 12. If Long leaves I'm not sold on Martin @ LT & I think Johnson is going to be better is an upgrade. Johnson is not only a better atlete than Martin but he's tougher too.

If Long stays then I'd go with Cooper who would be a HUGE upgrade @ RG. The guy is massive but he's also a good athlete that can pull.

With that said--at the end of the day--I say Ireland will make the mistake of caving in & wind up overpaying for Long.

JS,

Shariff Floyd is the only ELITE prospect I see on the D-line. Even though Dion Jordan was grouped with them he'll be an outside LB. He actually reminds me a little of Jason Taylor BUT I wouldn't take him @ 12.

Orlando,
As much as I loved Moore two days ago, and wouldn't hesitate... the dude loooked scrawny.

I don't see him 1st round at all.

I love his talent, and technique, but he did get handled in some games, and by non-descript tackles. I thought it was just a bad day, but if you take away his moves, he doesn't have the strength to overcome.

Raeally not sure.
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For all you Swope band-wagoners: Stop it, please.
He's a 3.
We have those.

He was a bottom round pick at best before he ran fast. Clyde Gates ran fast. So did Ginn.
Move on.

Playmakers,
I watched every game Floyd ever played... he's good, but not special.
Like him on my team. Just don't see him 1st round.
But... the field is most deifnitely dwindling.

Jordan looked very good, but again I know little about him. And he most defintiely is not a DE in the NFL.

Can he transition to fulltime OLB? Is that question worth a #1?

I don't know.

Heck no to Moore at 12. Pick up Honey badger's 4 reps too and the three of them (Martin included) can have their tickle fights in Davie this August.

WNP, I don't blame those guys for wanting to get paid. I don't think any other player has a wife that earns like Giselle did. Imagine a trophy wife that actually amkes tens of millions. Sigh ... going to order my ten dollar lunch and then get back to setting up price volume analysis models in Excel ...

"...A weak performance last year dropped Jonathen Martin to the 2nd round. I remember before the combine last year some people were saying Martin could go top 10 and instead he dropped to 10th in the second round to the fins."

Orlando,

I seriously don't know what we're going to do with Martin. If Long stays he's not strong enough to be a good RT & if Long leaves I don't know if he's the answer @ LT either. There's NO WAY Ireland would say this but the truth is that Nate Garner played better @ RT than Martin did. So now what??? Is he committed to getting stronger & more physical or he's he another marsh mellow like Vernon Carey was.

Playmakers,
I watched every game Floyd ever played... he's good, but not special.
Like him on my team. Just don't see him 1st round.
But... the field is most deifnitely dwindling.

Jordan looked very good, but again I know little about him. And he most defintiely is not a DE in the NFL.

Can he transition to fulltime OLB? Is that question worth a #1?

I don't know.

JS,

Interesting about Floyd. I trust your opinion since I have only seen Floyd play a few times but b/c of how well he moves for a big guy, he's definitely going in the top ten & maybe even the top five for a desperate team.

And all that jawing I did to stay away from picking an O Lineman - well... if the other prospects don't measure up, even I wouldn't pass up a quality tackle to replace Long.

JS,

That's why I like Lane Johnson or Jonathan Cooper at 12. If Long leaves I'm not sold on Martin @ LT & I think Johnson is going to be better is an upgrade. Johnson is not only a better atlete than Martin but he's tougher too.

If Long stays then I'd go with Cooper who would be a HUGE upgrade @ RG. The guy is massive but he's also a good athlete that can pull.

With that said--at the end of the day--I say Ireland will make the mistake of caving in & wind up overpaying for Long.

Posted by: We Need Playmakers | February 26, 2013 at 11:45 AM

JS,

Shariff Floyd is the only ELITE prospect I see on the D-line. Even though Dion Jordan was grouped with them he'll be an outside LB. He actually reminds me a little of Jason Taylor BUT I wouldn't take him @ 12.

Posted by: We Need Playmakers | February 26, 2013 at 11:48 AM

I agree 100% ! Ever since the Senior Bowl I've felt like Lane Johnson should be the pick. I also like Floyd and think he is the best talent but he is not a need for us.

I was hoping we could get Amerson in the 2nd but after he tore it up on the forty, he may be a late 1st rd pick.

Playmakers, don't get me wrong. I like FLoyd. He's a good kid, and tough player, and talented, etc.
Very much worth a pick somewhere, and I do think he'll be a solid DT.

But am I excited about him? No. He wasn't even the star of his defense. Best player on that Gator D by FAR was Elam. Floyd was a consistent force, but not dominant.
But for a team that needs a good DT, heck yeah, take him. But if you already have a pretty solid lineup at DT (like we do) then I'd look elsewhere.

But, no doubt, he's not a bad choice at all, and I think will do very well for someone.

To your credit, Playmakers, Warren Sapp thinks FLoyd is all-that. So, don't take my word for it.

I'm juts a draft obsessed scmuck fan like anyone else here.

"Heck no to Moore at 12. Pick up Honey badger's 4 reps too and the three of them (Martin included) can have their tickle fights in Davie this August.

WNP, I don't blame those guys for wanting to get paid. I don't think any other player has a wife that earns like Giselle did. Imagine a trophy wife that actually amkes tens of millions. Sigh ... going to order my ten dollar lunch and then get back to setting up price volume analysis models in Excel ..."

Mark,

He was taking less money before he married her. And come on...get paid??? Aside from being the highest paid player on the team they also tend to make the most in endorsement deals.

Does Flacco really need to have his agent fight for $20 Million a year instead of $15-16 Million a year which would help add another player??? Flacco is going to make a TON in endorsement deals (much more than the rest of his teammates) after winning the SB so do I think he's being greedy??? Absolutely. Same is true with Brees. He had to force the Saints to give him over $20 Million meanwhile the guy has more sponsorship deals than TD passes....The QB's are being pigs.

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