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Sean Smith worth $10.7 million guaranteed for one year?

I don't want to beat a dead horse here but the idea of the Dolphins using a franchise tag on Sean Smith got new life recently when CBSSports.com either reported or suggested the Dolphins were preparing to do exactly that this offseason.

The Palm Beach Post did the same in January.

I have been told it will not happen by a well-placed team source, who even mocked the suggestion to my face.

We'll see who's right.

But aside from being told it's not happening I like my chances because we're starting to see exactly what placing a franchise tag on Smith, or any cormerback for that matter, will cost. NFL.com's Albert Breer did excellent work Wednesday uncovering projections for the 2013 franchise tag numbers.

The report sates that cornerback franchise tags are expected to be the third most expensive behind only quarterback and defensive end projections. And that cornerback number is projected at a whopping $10.7 million.

Ten.

Point.

Seven.

Million.

Guaranteed.

For one year.

Believe whatever you wish about Sean Smith. I already shared with you my take on his ability and future prospects relative to a new contract. But is there any one of you that believes paying Smith $10.7 million guaranteed in 2013 is a good deal for the Dolphins?

Anyone?

(Not counting you, agent David Canter. I know you think that he's worth that much. I'm speaking to unbiased people, here.)

There is simply no way that is a good transaction for the Dolphins spending nearly one-quarter of the salary cap space the front office has worked diligently to accumulate over time on a player who is a starter, yes, but a playmaker and difference maker? No.

Franchise numbers are meant to keep top tier talent from fleeing smaller market teams for bigger market teams. It protects teams against losing the best and brightest on its roster, at least for a year or two. Players don't love the tag because it prevents them from going onto the free agent market and getting what is typically a bigger chunk of guaranteed money, albeit for more years of service.

But the problem with administering the franchise tag is it all counts toward the cap in one large Brink's truck delivery. All of it. It is a salary cap gobbler. It is a 12-cylinder engine at the gas pump. It is that Asian guy at the annual Nathan's Hot Dog eating contest. It is Salguero at a buffet.

It consumes!

That makes it unwise to use for a team trying to maximize its cap space. And it makes it borderline personnel department malpractice to use on a player whose level of play does not suggest he should be paid among the top 10 players at his position.

Is Sean Smith a top 10 cornerback in the NFL?

Maybe that other newspaper and the website think so. I don't. I've been told the Dolphins don't think so either.

What do you think?

By the way, if I'm wrong and the club does use the franchise tag on Smith, it would have repercussions. Do that, rather than signing him to a long-term deal if he's in their plans, would mean the cap hit. And that would mean less flexibility in free agency. And that would mean less talent coming to the team.

Thankfully, I'm not wrong.

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Dashi, no CB ever has averaged 6 picks per year, that's crazy talk...

Dashi has lost many bets, probably more than was good for him.

Mark, I didn't know about your affinity with Smith...I'm surprised to be honest with you...The guy sucks lemons...He's such a wuss...10 mil or not, he's a waste of money...Either sign one in FA or draft Milliner, but for the love of God don't re-sign Smith...Not only is he soft, he can't catch a beach ball...

S.Smith "SUCKS " PERIOD !! All of these dolphin f.agents are mediocre at best !! Stsrt this team all over again. Just build through the draft and nice things will begin to happen to this franchise. You people realize this is 40.th anniversary of their last super bowl win, you vuys realize that right ?

the answer to this question is simple. no.

Hey Mace, the problem with building through the draft is these same players (Smith and the rest) were picked by the same dude (Ireland) to rebuild through the draft 5 years ago! So you can't rebuild through the draft every 5 years after the player you picked needs to be replaced. I have no trust in Ireland AT ALL that he can "rebuild through the draft."

Time to go to work...I'm out!

I agree with dumping Dansby unless the cap hit is too much. He is a good run stopper but seems to have trouble covering tight ends and does not make many impact plays.

His contract does not fit his play on the field. Sean Smith can ride off into the sunset too. As everyone is saying, Miami needs impact players. Wr's who can make the game changing play or a corner who comes up with that big interception or another pass rusher who can sack the qb other then Wake at a crucial time in a game. Get playmakers and everything will fall into place.

Mark,

Yes, Correct.

I Should Rephrase That! And Sort Of Tried To At The End.

6 INT Is A Good Year For A CB!

S.Smith Has Never Had A Good Year In The NFL!

Great CB's! Have Been Known To Average 6 INT's A Season! In Their Prime!! S.Smith Is In The Prime Of His Career!!

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And Commonsense.

Dashi Is Just Making Fun Of Himself. I've Never Been One To Take Myself Serious!

Plus, If The Clown Wants To Respond!! It NULLS 75% Of His Comments About Me!

The Other 25%?

Him Using Dashe! And Complaining About My Excessive Use Of "!!"

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Oscar,

Dashi Has Admitted I've Lost Before. But Dashi Wins More Than He Loses!!

Plus, Dashi Doesn't Make A Bet! Unless, Dashi "Knows" He Is Going To Win!! Not Because Dashi "Might" Win! In Other Words!! Dashi Doesn't Bet To Bet!! I.e.- Horses, Dog Track, Slot Machines, and Any Other Thing That Can Be Easily Rigged!!

Only Exception Is The Dolphins!! Like Dashi Has Always Said!! DASHI NEVER BETS ON THE DOLPHINS TO LOSE!!

Dashi Just Won't Bet That Day!!

If Sean Smith get franchised....Ireland should be fired on the spot....

I don't think that even Craig M can defened that decision....

and I don't believe that even Ireland has had even ONE THOUGHT about franchising Smith....Jake Long...perhaps....

If Ireland has even mentioned this to his inner-circle as a possible course of action....he should be relieved of his duties as GM immediatly.....

Dashi, a guy once told me that to numb his obsession about his football team winning and losing, he would bet against his team each Sunday. So if they won, he would be happy. If they lost, he would get paid and at least numb the pain of losing. I assume he bet on the money line because with point spread your team can lose and come within the spread and you get double penetrated that way ...

I have a feeling all of the Miami Free Agents will be negotiating with other teams. Some may eventually sign back in Miami but I do not think anyone is Franchise Tag worthy.

Hartline may walk BUT Jennings may sign. I feel like that is a good trade off. We'd still need to draft 2 WR's early in this years draft.

Patterson would be an excellent choice at 12. He's raw but he's got athletic ability like we've not seen in Miami except from other teams WR's. Bess is an exception and a very very good slot guy. The other guy I like is Wheaton. This is a guy that can pop the top for sure but is also a very good route runner.

BUT the big question is: Would Jeff Ireland use 2 early picks on WR's???

Ross, stop being so cheap and pay your players or you'll continue to stink forever.

in other news....

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when I first saw this little contest a few weeks back...it was easy to spot whichone the "establishment" would favor...

If you're surprised that this was the winner of the mock competition....then you really haven't been paying attention to what's going on in the world....

I can ONLY hope the real FINS logo is nothing like this....or I may have to turn in my card....

I think this may be the first time but Kris - I AGREE 100%

Does anyone else feel that jennings is a done deal? I know we shouldnt buy into free agency hype, but when jennings was on Total Access, he seemed very excited about joining the Dolphins, for the team and it geographical location. I dont feel feel this is the Matt Flynn deal all over again. I was more on the Wallace train, but after hearing his interview, he seems like a really nice and considerate player, which makes hima perfect fit. I will proudly wear my Jennings jersey (with new logo and uniform design) next year. I am sold

My understanding is the cap hit to cut Dansby does not make any sense at all. He was a tackling machine at times, but I agree, no big plays to speak of thatwe would need a guy making that much money to make.

I am not a Danby hater to be honest. We have so many holes to fill, that cutting him causes one more roblem for this year. He leads the D well, and defenses do plan for him. I think that is why an average Misi looked a lot better this year. I stil would like to see Dansby on the field for us next year and not on the Pats. JMO.

This guy is pretty dumb...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000138993/article/mike-tannenbaum-reflects-on-mark-sanchez-contract

Rdubs,

I do feel that way. I feel like Jennings will be in Miami next year. I feel he's the best choice at WR in FA for Miami for several reasons but the main 2 would be that he's familiar with coaching and the offense and 2nd that he would be a great to have to help 2 new rookies along.

Texas....

there is a first time for everything...lol....

Rdubs, when you buy from Green Bay, you are guaranteed to get class and professionalism. They do things the right way in Wisconsin when it comes to football. A1 guys. Jennings, Driver, Robert Brooks, list goes on. All except for that pecker picture sender Brett Favre (who's a polarizing figure amongst Packer fans anyway).

Jennings may be breaking down but he's a football player and will give 100% and is a talented dude for sure.

Mark...

Jennings may be the SAFE pick...but does that make him the right pick....

Rdubs post does sway me a bit....but ultimately....we need a reciever who will sway the defense in his direction....

does Jennings do that.....or is more of a cog in a machine of really good recievers...

the injury thing had me concerned, but a groin? I am no doctor, but that doesnt seem to be something that should affect him going forward, but typically can linger during the football season, am I correct making this assumption?

Egnew with T.Y. Hilton still not drafted. Every year it's the same thing. The teams that know how to draft find players & the teams that don't continue to struggle.
Posted by: We Need Playmakers | February 13, 2013 at 01:10 PM
I'm calling BS on this post, WNPs. The team that just went to the Super Bowl, the Niners, drafted a WR in the first round that had EXACTLY the same number of catches as Egnew this year....ZERO. Do they know how to draft?
If we were to STOP throwing draft picks aroudn like their candy in dumb trades and ACTUALLY spent some time researching and not having to hit on EVERY pick we'd be far better off. Belichick has been missing on draft picks for years. Doesn't seem to stop him from going to the playoffs every year.
Posted by: Craig M | February 14, 2013 at 09:55 AM

Kris - my feeling about Jennings is he's a better option than Hartline. He's a little older but a better player all around. I am not sure how much money Hartline is seeking but I would rather just pay Jennings and let Hartline walk and draft a couple rookies high in the draft.

Texas...

I agree....Jennings over Hartline....

but what about Wallace...who do you prefer out of those two....

Armando is usually right about these things, it's why I come here. So I believe it when he says they said they won't be using the tag on him.

And I agree fully. There's not even one reason why Sean Smith should make that kind of money. The guy isn't versatile, can't create turnovers, can't cover smaller quicker wide receivers, plays soft at times, and does not have football smarts. He has no ability to think quick on his feet and go off the script to make a big play.

I have said this for a year now. I'm sick and tired of seeing players like this prosper on the Dolphins roster. Enough is enough, pay people who deserve to be paid!

He allowed the most TDS and first downs out of any CB in the league last year, what else needs to be said?!

"The player rep for free agent WR Brian Hartline said that contract talks with the Dolphins haven't begun in earnest yet.
Drew Rosenhaus confirmed that there's a "mutual interest" on both sides, but said a deal isn't really close. That could change next week when the NFL world gathers in Indianapolis for the Scouting Combine. Bringing back Hartline shouldn't stop the Dolphins from going after one of the premier free-agent wideouts available."
Source: Palm Beach Post
Feb 14 - 9:50 AM

Rosenhaus says there's 'mutual interest' on both sides. That's good to hear.

I don't think the Hartline critics on here understand several other teams are going to be in the mix for both Wallace & Jennings so not getting something done with Hartline could be a disaster. We were already too thin @ WR with Hartline in 2012 as it is so we need to add not subtract.

BTW--We're NOT the only team with a need at WR & with available cap space. The Niners, the Seahawks, the Vikings, the Browns, the Chiefs (if they lose Bowe) are all potential landing spots.

Kris,

There's two guys I think it would be a colossal mistake to bring back this offseason....one is Starks and the other is Smith. Now understand, I'm not saying either guy is a bad player. I'm just saying the money could be spent elsewhere. I've been hot and cold on Smith but at the end of the day, I'd rather see us draft another CB or sign someone else in FA. Armando's right....Smith isn't a difference-maker. So why would we keep throwing money at this guy? makes no sense to me.

Mark, I'm a little surprised at your take on Smith. You're the guy who's been calling for 'difference-makers' defence. Gys who turn the ball over. That in four years has been shown not to be Smith. so why would we invest another $25-30 million into this guy? For what? We agree on quite a bit on here, Mark but I was NEVER a Channing Crowder guy (I know you were) and Smith has disappointed me once too often.

I think also with Hartline destiu not having doble covernage so knr if they can vent in Jenings or Wallace same bax would happen lon 0pffense

WNPs,

You forgot to mention the Bengals. They have something like $50 million under the cap and they are looking for a target opposite Green. If I had to bet, I would say this is where Wallace ends up. Cinci is a team on the edge of doing something big IMO and wouldn't Wallace love the chance to stick it to the Steelers twice a year. They're the favourite for Wallace, IMO.

Agree WNP...

that is why Ireland has to treat his TOP targeted FA WR like his job depends on signing him (who ever him is).....

I think its safe to assume that the1st WR contacted/visits is the TOP prospect on the list....

Ireland (or his henchmen) must lock this WR up....and NOT let him leave....over pay if they must (and they will have to)...but the coveted WR must NOT be allowed to leave Miami without a signed contact pending physical....

That is one way to show the FA...the team...and the FAN BASE that you are serious about brining a winner to Miami....

my hope is that the TOP Target is Wallace...but if Ireland says its Jennings or Bowe...fine...just lock them up....

I also believe we can find Hartline's replacement in FA if need be....

I have been told it will not happen by well-placed team sources, who even mocked the suggestion to my face.

We'll see who's right.

Mando,

If you're not right it's further proof that there's no GM as incompetent as Ireland. BTW--That goes for re-signing Jake Long as well.

I don't understand how other teams that continue to lose like the Browns & Chiefs knew better & cleared house while we're still stuck with the same shmuck.

The Niners, Seahawks, and Chiefs, Don't Have Cap!

Plus, The Seahawks Have Way Better Wr's Than The Fins!! Way Better!! Or You Forgot Golden Tate Making S.Smith And The Boys Look Like Amateurs!! Plus, S.Rice! And D.Baldwin! The Seahawks Have 3 Good Wr's! And A Good TE!!

Niners Have Less Than $1 Mil In Cap!! Reason They Need To Trade Or Cut Smith!! So They Can At Least Sign Goldson And Walker!

The Chiefs, Have So Much Cap! They Need To Decide! Keep Bowe Or B.Albert!! A lot Of Space!! Yeah, Right!

Kris,

I prefer Jennings and here is why.

Jennings - knows the offense better, knows coaching better. He just seems to fit the offense better as a whole. IMO Jennings is a whole lot better route runner.

Wallace - Younger, faster but MOSTLY is a deep guy. We need a guy that can push the envelope but I think we can get that at a less expensive rate via the draft. 2 names come to mind right off and that is Wheaton and Goodwin. I like Wheaton better as he' runs exceptional routes.

Both guys will cost about the same but I feel like Wallace will ask for more money and doesn't care where he lands as long as the money is right. We'll see on that as that is just my opinion. IMO Jennings wants to be here in Miami. I feel like Jennings will cost 6 mil or less and Wallace will be 8 mil or so.

So long story short, Jennings fits better costs less and can teach ends and outs to new roookies.

Wheaton in the 2nd will cost a whole lot less than Wallace and IMO within a yr will be as good or better. Of course that means we need to get him. :)

In my mind drafting 2 WR's early is our best scenario unless 1 of the top 2 TE's are there at 42. I doubt they are but that would change my thinking. So I see Jennings, Bess, Patterson and Wheaton as our top 4 WR's next yr and that looks really good to me. I would buy season tickets if I lived in Miami for that.

Agreed,

#24 Shauna Smith can walk.
She can go get a job at the local salon doing nails.

that is why Ireland has to treat his TOP targeted FA WR like his job depends on signing him (who ever him is).....

I think its safe to assume that the1st WR contacted/visits is the TOP prospect on the list....

Ireland (or his henchmen) must lock this WR up....and NOT let him leave....over pay if they must (and they will have to)...but the coveted WR must NOT be allowed to leave Miami without a signed contact pending physical....

That is one way to show the FA...the team...and the FAN BASE that you are serious about brining a winner to Miami....

my hope is that the TOP Target is Wallace...but if Ireland says its Jennings or Bowe...fine...just lock them up....

I also believe we can find Hartline's replacement in FA if need be....

Kris,

I agree but it seems like every time Ireland has been aggressive in FA, it was a mistake. The trade for Marshall, trading & overpaying for Bush, signing Jake Grove, signing Justin Smiley, signing Richard Marshall, etc. The biggest signing was Dansby & even that has had mixed results considering how much he cost.

Ya Know What Really Sux?

Jeff Ireland said the present situation has been a preprepared plan. I agree except for one thing. Im sure sucking at drafting wasnt part of it.

Think about it. It would be brilliant had the fo had it on all of these fa's that are our own. $46 million would be enough to resign everyone with change to spare.

Instead, now we're i a situation of needing to sign other teams fa's and or keeping or letting go of borderline good fa's of our own. Mr. Ireland, I wasnt born yesterday, Im sure that wsnt part of the preplanning.

hit

Is Sean Smith a top 10 cornerback in the NFL?

Mando,

There's NO WAY he is. Right off the bat the Niners, the Seahawks, & the Jets have a combined six CB's that are MUCH better.

BTW--Smith is not even one of the top CB's in FA let alone under contract. Cary Williams is a MUCH better CB than Smith so if we're going to pay through the nose to get someone I can't possibly fathom why we'd piss it away on Smith.

Kris, re: Jennings, he is the best WR of all of them on the market in his day. In his best year, he was better than Mike Wallace will ever be. However, the big question is if there is enough gas in the tank. he won't be cheap either, minimum $8M per year. When he did play last year, he still stuck out as GBs best WR but the numbers didn't stand out bc they have a fleet of ferrari's and a hummer at their skill positions.

Texas...

I like that plan...and much like Rdubs did...you sway me a step closer to embracing the Jennings movement....

I understand the intangibles he brings to the table are off the charts....but his tangebles :)....don't seem quite as impressive to me any more....

Maybe its just a case of knowing the girl wants you...so now she doesn't seem as attractive.....

but that Wallace....I have no idea which way he is leaning....so the forbidden fruit aspect has me curious....

I don't really think we lose with any of them....I just have my preference...as we all do...

The only way Ireland does lose in my book...is to be 3 days in to FA...and have signed NONE of them....then...imo...he should start the process of cleaning out his office...

hummer....lol....

Craig, Richard Marshall signed for $5m to be a nickel corner. Sean Smith is clearly a better player so I would have no problem paying him six over a long term. It's not really a lot fo money to tie a CB up for half a decade. It would be a shrewd buy in my opinion. Lock up that CB position for a long time adequately - work the draft the cement the other positions. Look for another CB that can be a ballhawk. guys who can handle the big strong WRs are not exactly in abundance despite his other shortcomings.

Here's what I mean by my 10:57 post:

1. Jake Lomg: Safe picks go wrong too

2. Sean Smith: Sean who ondraft day. EGO

3. Brian Hartline: Refusing to admit he's not quite good enough. Again Ireland ego.

4. Chris Clemons: Another who on draft day

5. Anthony Fasano: Refusing to upgrade. Seems everyone but our fo knew he wasnt quite good enough.

6. Reggie Bush: Michael Bush and Darren Sprowles were available. But had the fo did a better job bringing in personnel. He could be resigned no problem.

7. Randy Starks. Probably the most desrvedly of all to be resigned. But now a luxury we may not can afford.

Mr. Ireland, plaese dont lie to our faces and tell us this was all part of the plan.

Both guys will cost about the same but I feel like Wallace will ask for more money and doesn't care where he lands as long as the money is right. We'll see on that as that is just my opinion. IMO Jennings wants to be here in Miami. I feel like Jennings will cost 6 mil or less and Wallace will be 8 mil or so.

Texas,

Don't kid yourself--Jennings wants to get PAID too. This is his last big contract & I keep hearing him say that he needs to do what's best for his wife & kids. Sure Miami would be a great fit but he's only coming here if we offer make him an offer he can't refuse b/c other teams will pony up to sign this guy. Proven top tier WR, not a diva, & a great character/locker room guy??? He's the only WR in available in FA that can say that.

BTW--Not sure where you got those numbers but Jennings is going to wind up making about AT LEAST $8 Million & probably $9 Million a year & Wallace should get V. Jax money which is $11 Million a year. At this point we'd be LUCKY to get Hartline for $6 Million a year.

Re-signing Hartline then adding Jennings would definitely move the need for a WR down the pecking order a bit come the draft. I mean why would you draft a guy early to be your 4th WR??? I certainly would be happy with those two as our starters and having Bess in the slot.

Hey, I agree again Kris - not getting either is a big fat failure and if that's the case we better start talks with Hartline. :)

AND IMO I would much rather have Jennings guiding the rooks than Hartline. I think Hartline is a good number 3 WR but he would teach to catch and fall, not catch and run your arse off.

Does anyone think Ireland would risk losing Hartline, if he could sign Jennings and Wallace, I think the difference would only be a couple of million bucks. I dont know if thats a smart decision, just thinking out loud. I think Craig brings up a great point about Wallace, Cincy makes the most sense, playoff team, crapload of capspace,decent QB , play opposite a great receiver which would pad his stats and he could stick it to the Steelers twice a year, since they didnt give him his contract. Damn, I think I just convinced myself Wallace wont be coming here. OK Ireland go ahead and resign hartline, I give you permission

WNP,

Smith only has to be ranked 32ndish to be a middle of the pack nfl cb. there are 64 starting cb's in the league. Im sure Smith fralls somewhere in the middle of the packish range.

The word Hummer always gets me to chuckle too Kris

If Ireland puts the F-tag on Smith he might as well put his house on the market because Ross will kick him to the curb.
Actually...Ross has kept Ireland around because his right-hand man, Carl Petersen says to keep him.

Ross is not blind...he can see the limitations on Smith and will not approve the franchise tag on him...and if I recall, he's the one signing the check.

NO TO THE F-TAG ON SMITH.

WNP...

good counter....I would add his aggressive selection with the # 8 over all pick last year...but that is a conversation for another time...

This time it will be hard for Ireland to get it wrong...you have 3 (not one)....3 of the top 10-12 WR in the game to chose from....its hard to mess that up...

Mark,

That would be a huge mistake because when we find out that didn't work out well during the season we have very little for next years draft as most of the good Jr's came out this year. This years crop of WR's is pretty deep 2.5 rounds deep. Plus if we drafted Patterson, he'd make Hartline our number 4 WR. Which I wouldn't mind that either.

What this fo ca ill afford most is to make any desperation moves. Sure the pressures on, but this would only compound previous mistakes.

What I would like to see most is a total elimination of these draft day "WHO?" moves. IMO, this spells "IRELAND EGO". Irelad ego is primary reason why talentwise this team is where it is today.

Not quite bad enough to be horrible, while not good enough to be great. All the stars would have to align correctly just to have an 8-8 season.

WNDP - Those numbers are what I think Team will pay. Strictly my opinion not numbers from reports going around.

Does 6 mil a year make you want Hartline for that? That is insane for a WR that would be a 3 or 4 on a good team.

Do whatever you have to do to sign all your FA starters.

Had the rebuild from this fo been done correctly from the start. The 2012 offseason would have been the one to put us ovr the top and become a sb calibre team.

Yet, 2012 looks more like 2008 should have looked. More drafts like 2012 and we should be in sb contention by 2015-16.

"Craig, Richard Marshall signed for $5m to be a nickel corner. Sean Smith is clearly a better player so I would have no problem paying him six over a long term. It's not really a lot fo money to tie a CB up for half a decade. It would be a shrewd buy in my opinion. Lock up that CB position for a long time adequately - work the draft the cement the other positions. Look for another CB that can be a ballhawk. guys who can handle the big strong WRs are not exactly in abundance despite his other shortcomings."

Mark,

Exactly & we overpaid. Marshall was not all that impressive before he got hurt & now he's recouping from back surgery so that deal sucked. Why overpay for another CB that I honestly don't even view as a solid starter. The better teams like the Niners, Seahawks, & the Bengals already have two starting CB's who are better. Hell..The Jets & the Rams both have two starting CB's who are better. That's just sad btw. Even if the Patriots don't re-sign Talib there's no way they'd spend that much on Smith.

What team in their right mind would pay that for Smith??? The only team I can see overpaying him is us!!!

Man, I look at the receivers in this draft and see it different. There are many "potentially" good guys. But no one with the blazing speed or size, along with the incredible hands that we can look at an sy, this guy is a stud. Like Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson,

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