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Sean Smith worth $10.7 million guaranteed for one year?

I don't want to beat a dead horse here but the idea of the Dolphins using a franchise tag on Sean Smith got new life recently when CBSSports.com either reported or suggested the Dolphins were preparing to do exactly that this offseason.

The Palm Beach Post did the same in January.

I have been told it will not happen by a well-placed team source, who even mocked the suggestion to my face.

We'll see who's right.

But aside from being told it's not happening I like my chances because we're starting to see exactly what placing a franchise tag on Smith, or any cormerback for that matter, will cost. NFL.com's Albert Breer did excellent work Wednesday uncovering projections for the 2013 franchise tag numbers.

The report sates that cornerback franchise tags are expected to be the third most expensive behind only quarterback and defensive end projections. And that cornerback number is projected at a whopping $10.7 million.

Ten.

Point.

Seven.

Million.

Guaranteed.

For one year.

Believe whatever you wish about Sean Smith. I already shared with you my take on his ability and future prospects relative to a new contract. But is there any one of you that believes paying Smith $10.7 million guaranteed in 2013 is a good deal for the Dolphins?

Anyone?

(Not counting you, agent David Canter. I know you think that he's worth that much. I'm speaking to unbiased people, here.)

There is simply no way that is a good transaction for the Dolphins spending nearly one-quarter of the salary cap space the front office has worked diligently to accumulate over time on a player who is a starter, yes, but a playmaker and difference maker? No.

Franchise numbers are meant to keep top tier talent from fleeing smaller market teams for bigger market teams. It protects teams against losing the best and brightest on its roster, at least for a year or two. Players don't love the tag because it prevents them from going onto the free agent market and getting what is typically a bigger chunk of guaranteed money, albeit for more years of service.

But the problem with administering the franchise tag is it all counts toward the cap in one large Brink's truck delivery. All of it. It is a salary cap gobbler. It is a 12-cylinder engine at the gas pump. It is that Asian guy at the annual Nathan's Hot Dog eating contest. It is Salguero at a buffet.

It consumes!

That makes it unwise to use for a team trying to maximize its cap space. And it makes it borderline personnel department malpractice to use on a player whose level of play does not suggest he should be paid among the top 10 players at his position.

Is Sean Smith a top 10 cornerback in the NFL?

Maybe that other newspaper and the website think so. I don't. I've been told the Dolphins don't think so either.

What do you think?

By the way, if I'm wrong and the club does use the franchise tag on Smith, it would have repercussions. Do that, rather than signing him to a long-term deal if he's in their plans, would mean the cap hit. And that would mean less flexibility in free agency. And that would mean less talent coming to the team.

Thankfully, I'm not wrong.

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If I'm looking at his correctly my question has to be:

Why are the Dolphins spouting off about having $46 million to spend to upgrade the team if in reality they don't?

Franchising Smith brings you immediatly down to $35ish. Thats not counting our other unsigned starters. Would they really be having press conferences about the money their gonna spend if it's all spent on our mediocre free agents? Do they think this is going bring excitement? Not hardly.

They've been saying all along that some of our guys won't be back and we've all been speculating on which ones.

I would say that this story kind of confirms that at least one is Sean Smith.

IF and only IF he consistantly played like he did against Fitzgerald, could catch INTs that hit him in the hands, or pick off a ball that would have won us another game IE Indy.. then yes but in the past 4 years this has not been proven..
Yes he is a big bodied corner but against smaller quicker receivers he plays 10 yrds off the ball bc he doesnt trust his skills..
There is no way shape or form that giving him 10 million for one year is a good step for the Fins..
It creates a hole IF he signs elsewhere but holes can be filled with 46 million..

My point which I did not finish was that I think WR may be better suited to get done by trade or free agency. Patterson does not look as strong as blackmon coming out.

IMO, this fo should make an admission it totally f u c k e d up the first 4yrs and beginning in 2012 we began total rebuild. Then let all of the borderline average fa's walk and began assembling "REAL TALENT" in Miami.

However, I have strong believe Jeffy Egomeister would nevrdo nor admit to this. We maybe stuck in chronic averageville as long as Ireland is gm.

good counter....I would add his aggressive selection with the # 8 over all pick last year...but that is a conversation for another time...

This time it will be hard for Ireland to get it wrong...you have 3 (not one)....3 of the top 10-12 WR in the game to chose from....its hard to mess that up...

Kris,

You realize this is Jeff Ireland we're talking about right??? If anyone in the NFL can screw it up it's him. If Ozzie Newsome has the 'golden touch' then Ireland has the opposite ability.

I believe the franchise is at a MAJOR crossroads (either we're building or we're destroying) so this FA & this draft are critical. If Ireland doesn't get it right this year the house is going to collapse.

We have had four years with Mr. Smith. He is a smart, athletic CB who has the size and speed to match up with some of the best WRs in the league!

That being said, half the time he must be thinking about something else because he is out of position half the time. And he cannot catch to save his life.

Time to move on...good luck Sean wherever you go, use some of your signing bonus on a JUGS machine...for your own good.

WNDP - Those numbers are what I think Team will pay. Strictly my opinion not numbers from reports going around.

Does 6 mil a year make you want Hartline for that? That is insane for a WR that would be a 3 or 4 on a good team.

Texas,

He'd be a Number Two on the Niners & they're pretty good. Bear in mind that both Laurent Robinson & Robert Meachum got deals like that in FA & IMO Hartline is better than both of guys. Might sound insane but that's based on last year's contracts.

Guys,

What you are disgussing here are fo mistakes that have cmeback to bite this fo in the ass. Had better personnel decisions been made there wouldnt be discussions on who is or isnt worthy of keeping. It would be no bariner to resign all of our own.

FA wr's? In the beginning, how long did this fo go before recognizing true need for a young explosive wr? It thought that wr's were something you bring in as a mid rd science project and were only worth dime a dozen mentality.

Now because of its past "dime a dozen" wr mentality this fo is now faced with having to spend big in fa to get one. Past mistakes I tell you, past mistakes almost always comeback to haunt.

Texas, I would be very surprised if patterson can come in and be a better receiver than Hartline right off... Say what you want but 1,000 yard receivers should be respected as very competent.

Where's this idea that Hartline would be a 3rd or 4th WR on a good team coming from??? He'd be a Number Two on NE if they kept Welker & they have one of the best offenses in football.

It all goes back to draft day 2009.

......And the Miami Dolphins select.... Sea Smith.....

And the audience goes, "SEAN WHO?"

I know that I did. LOL...

WNP, point is veteran Cbs cost. Benny sapp used to amke $4m a year man ...

#24 Shauna Smith won't ever be an interception machine because she's afraid that by catching the ball she might break a nail.

Vontae Davis and Sean Smith = More Irescum busts

Texas, I would be very surprised if patterson can come in and be a better receiver than Hartline right off... Say what you want but 1,000 yard receivers should be respected as very competent.

Mark,

No way do I see that happening. The guys in the first round are not ELITE prospects like A.J. Green or Megatron. There is going to be a surprise WR in this draft like a T.Y. Hilton b/c there always is but I wouldn't count on Ireland finding him.

Hartline wouldnt see the field on any good team.

Sapp....

always in trail postion as he was chasing a reciever (who caught the ball) across the feild....If I wasn't a FINS fan....it would have been comical....

I believe the problem with this fo and probably many nfl fo's, is that it places certain value on certain positions.

If I were a gm and needed to draft a #2 cb(Smith), I would draft that position as if I were looking for a #1 cb. Doing this, I believe at worst I end up with a #2 cb.

Drafting a #2 cb aa if youre looking for a #2 cb, if fallig short you could end up with a #3 cb or worse. Gm's need to draft every position as if they were searching for drafting pro bowlers. Placing lesser values on certain positions on draft day can comeback to bite in the ass.

WNP,

Youre dead wong. Patterson ca come in and be as good as Hartline day one. If we sign a fa #1 wr Ptterson would play the 2.

The only thing Hartline does well is the backshoulder fade on the sidelines. Patterson's more than big and physical eough to do this well.

Hell, Patterson may even break a tacke and take a few of those to the house where Hartline could not.

WNP, point is veteran Cbs cost. Benny sapp used to amke $4m a year man ...

Yeah b/c we were dumb enough to pay him!!! Just b/c we overpaid for R. Marshall & B. Sapp doesn't mean that they're worth that??? You have to take what Ireland does with a grain of salt...Clearly he can't find a CB or a WR or a RB or a TE worth sh#t if his life depended on it.

Need I remind you that Nolan Carroll was our starting CB after Marshall got hurt??? If there was a worse CB that started a game in the NFL I'd love to know his name b/c that team is even more f#cked than we are. Bear in mind that Carroll wasn't even a rookie & he was still the worst.

I think Jennings is the best fa acuisition for us because he represent a 2-3yrs transitional window to draft and bring along a young wr such as a Patterson or Hopkins to eventually takeover the #1 wr spot.

This kicks Hartline to the curve because he'll never become a true #1 wr. So the new young wr needs to play right away at the #2 position to gain all the experience and reps neccessary to eventually takeover the #1wr spot.

You guys just dont get it. You wouldnt be having this Sean Smith discussion had a better offseason of 2009 draft decision had been made. LOL....

7. Randy Starks. Probably the most desrvedly of all to be resigned. But now a luxury we may not can afford.

Mr. Ireland, plaese dont lie to our faces and tell us this was all part of the plan.

Posted by: Yesterday's Gone 4Ever! | February 14, 2013 at 11:11 AM


YG,

I agree Starks should be resigned...

and the belief we may not be able to, given the great cap situation our FO supposedly put us in, speaks volumes to where the "plan" went wrong.


Youre dead wong. Patterson ca come in and be as good as Hartline day one. If we sign a fa #1 wr Ptterson would play the 2.

The only thing Hartline does well is the backshoulder fade on the sidelines. Patterson's more than big and physical eough to do this well.

Hell, Patterson may even break a tacke and take a few of those to the house where Hartline could not.

YG,

You're talking out of your a@@ again. Justin Blackmon didn't even go over 1000 yards this year & he was BY FAR a much better prospect than Patterson. This is a weak draft class for WR's & the risk is too high for him to be the 12th overall pick. There are better players at other positions than Patterson in this draft that you can't pass on b/c of need at WR. The same is also true at CB since Milliner will be gone long before we draft.

In a word(or two) NO FU***** WAY. I would personally fire Jeffery

WNP,

I really dont read your post. Its all uneducated childish dribble. However, because you were talking out of your dumbass, I corrected you.

Mr. Dumbass, had Justin Blackmon been on this wr corp he "EASILY" would have been the best we had.

Tannehill maybe "PEYTON MANNIN" compared to "BLAINE GABBERT". Thats who threw to Blackmon until late in the season when he got hurt.

Chad Henne did a much better job throwing to Blackmon, and it wasnt until then that Blackmon began to look like a 1st rd drafted wr.

Get some f u c k i n g knowledge. Then you'll find no need to talk sideways out of your ass. LOL..

All the top tier consistent playoff teams ignore drafting for need and ALWAYS choose the best player available....a surplus of talent at any position give the FO leverage and maneuverability to shore up the need areas at their leisure because they have a talent that other teams value.These teans use the draft to build the nucleus of their teams and use FA to fill needs id necessary.That is the successful way to not have so many horrible misses and disappointments on draft day.

You Need A Brain(WNP),

Justin Blackmon 79 receptions 5 tds. Thats with Gabbert throwing to him over 3/4 of the season. Im sure he wouldnt have been a better option than Hartline on our wr roster.

You Need A Brain, please get one, a mind's a terrible thing to waste. LOL...

A guy calls himself "We Need Playmakers", yet you read his posts and see how clueless he is about identifying playmakers. Literally down playing Justin Blackmon when Blackmon had a worse qb(Gabbert) than Sanchez throwing him the ball over 3/4 of the season.

Geesh this guy is extremely stupid. LOL....

All these out of towners are out of touch. And clueless.

You Need A Brain,

If you ever dream Hartline's better than Blackmon you had better wake up and appoligize.

Hopefully youre the world's only upright and walking idiots that believes Hartline is better than Patterson. Hartline has reached his potential. He was a 4th rd draft pick dumbass. Patterson's potential skyrockets thru the roof with such height his draft status is in conversation with being the first wr taken.

This is a guy that played 2 of hios 3 college year at Juco. Knowone will ever think so highly of you. Not even your parents dumbass. LOL...

Justin Blackmon 79 receptions 5 tds. Thats with Gabbert throwing to him over 3/4 of the season. Im sure he wouldnt have been a better option than Hartline on our wr roster.

You Need A Brain, please get one, a mind's a terrible thing to waste. LOL...

YG/Dying Breed,

First of all--those numbers are wrong. Blackmon had 64 catches for 865 yards & 5 TD's which according to MY MATH is not 1000 yards.

So considering there are no Justin Blackmon's who are ELITE WR prospects in this draft I'd say there's a very good chance that a rookie WR couldn't match Hartline's production.

Why not move Tanny to WR?

Blackmon got those numbers with Henne.

This is a guy that played 2 of hios 3 college year at Juco. Knowone will ever think so highly of you. Not even your parents dumbass. LOL...

YG,

Seriously....Unlike you I actually graduated from college & know how to spell. It's 'No one' not 'knowone' you f#cking tool.

Posted by: Steve in Otawa | February 14, 2013 at 12:24 PM

Huh............ Guess you didnt get the memo. Tannehill runs about a 4.6 forty at 228ls right now. That's nfl linebacker speed in some cases. LOL....

We Need Playmakers,

I think it might be possible that a rookie can have solid production. Blackmon had 865 yards and 5 TD's with Gabbert throwing to him half the season and HENNE throwing it to him the other half. AJ Green and Julio Jones lit it up their rookie years, but they are special talents I don't believe are in this draft.

Torrey Smith and Randall Cobb both had big rookie years. Even Titus Young, Ryan Broyles, and TY Hilton had pretty good years. These are all wrs taken in the 2nd or 3rd round it is possible.

Personally I would bring in Jennings, bring back Hartline and sign a 2nd or 3rd round rookie.

Smith is not a playmaker, not an elite player. Period. Not worth that kind of money. Moreover he is not improving from year to year - no additional upside.

WNPs,

I just don't get your NEGATIVITIY lately....every single f8cking post. You used to be a guy who looked at things objectively and I respected you for that. Now it's nothing but 'Ireland's incompetence', 'worst GM in the league'.....blah, blah, blah....Gets REALLY boring after a while. So much so that I typically skip over a lot of these comments now.

To you and Kris, I'll say one thing is guaranteed when it comes to adding a WR in FA.....Regardless of what Ireland does he's going to overpay for someone. No question about it. None of these guys are worth the money they are asking. So Kris, if 'his job depends on it', he's going to get it WRONG. No question. It's a no-win situation. We know that going in. But I think all of us (maybe with the excpetion of YG, because I know he's been a big advocate for taking guys in the draft), want him to go this path. We need a guy who can help NOW....not two years from now, which is what you're likely getting in the draft.

Mark,

I'd still be a fan of signing Jennings, and re-signing Hartline AND drafting a WR in the second round. Hartline would start as the TWO and over time the rook woould pass him. Injuries are going to happen and we need these guys. Jenning might only be good for 2-3 years. Might take the rook a year or two to get up and running. I'm going to count on him for very little in year one and if he delivers GREAT.

WNP, don't let facts stop YG from a mad ramble.

Today's latest instalment in stupid shite YG says ...

Home is here ....

lol


Seriously....Unlike you I actually graduated from college & know how to spell. It's 'No one' not 'knowone' you f#cking tool.

Posted by: We Need Playmakers | February 14, 2013 at 12:27 PM

I also graduted college. Doesnt excuse one for stupidity. Going to college doesnt make one smart, it makes him "educated". Educated fools are graduatong from college every year. Youre full proof of this.

If youre supposedly educated you would research before making posts out of your ass. Doesnt college teach this? LOL...

I have a queston? if they take Wallace drnt have to have compasation grndr for th Steelers? or does it not havnr that way? Do you just get or also with Wallace it is mnum the contract?

UI mean also with JENNINGS

I'm going to step out for lunch guys....talk soon.

Why do so many lie "You Need A Brain(WNP) blame college for their shortcomings? College is only there to take your money. Its entirely up to individual to get educated. LOL...

Craig, yeah, the WR pick would be a developmental one, the last 2nd pick or the early 3rd ... but I would think the #12 pick would not be a thought as it may possibly be right now ..

Marcia,

Youre the dumbest of the dumb on this blog. I wont even make you feel good by thrashing you with my overwhelming greatness opposed to you today. LOL...

Hey NeMo,
"Here's hoping your not wrong Mando..." what? What's the end of that sentence? I mean, clearly, since you said "your" which is possessive, and not "you're" which is a contraction of "you" and "are", then you obviously meant that there is something Armando owns that is apparently named "Not Wrong Mando", like, that must be a thing, and you were "hoping" that it did something... right? It has to be, otherwise you would have written "you're", and not "your". But YOUR way too smart for that kind of mistake.

just cuz u go to skool fo 10 years aint make u smart, there r a ton of dumb dr's out there.
lol

"I think it might be possible that a rookie can have solid production. Blackmon had 865 yards and 5 TD's with Gabbert throwing to him half the season and HENNE throwing it to him the other half. AJ Green and Julio Jones lit it up their rookie years, but they are special talents I don't believe are in this draft.

Torrey Smith and Randall Cobb both had big rookie years. Even Titus Young, Ryan Broyles, and TY Hilton had pretty good years. These are all wrs taken in the 2nd or 3rd round it is possible.

Personally I would bring in Jennings, bring back Hartline and sign a 2nd or 3rd round rookie."

NeMo,

YG thinks that Patterson could come in & go over 1000 yards as a rookie. Obviously I disagree & Mark made the point IF we drafted a WR at 12, he was NOT going to come in this year & go over 1000 yards. And I couldn't agree more with Mark since I'm not crazy about the WR's in this draft. I do like DeAndre Hopkins a lot but not at 12.

IMO--Not re-signing Hartline would be a HUGE mistake & I'd love to get Jennings. I'd also like to see us take a WR in either the 2nd or 3rd round.

I've lost track of how many times people here get "lose" and "loose" confused.

Actually, the overall grammatical level and ability to form cogent thoughts and express them well is pretty horrendous here. I rarely see anything memorable or particularly thought-provoking. The "Ireland sucks" mantras have grown beyond stale, for one.

"Why do so many lie "You Need A Brain(WNP) blame college for their shortcomings? College is only there to take your money. Its entirely up to individual to get educated. LOL..."

YG,

Well said.

What about 36mm for 6yrs

More stupid shite YG says ...

"I also graduted college"

Clown College?

Barber College??

You need A Brain,

Show the post I said Patterson comes in and gets a 1,00yds recieving.

I gues now you also prove to be a dumbass and a liar. LOL...

1,000

Florio @ 12:36

I will try and clean up the grammar for you. It was a late night for me.

Let this Joker walk...there still are guys like Grimes from ATL, Talib from NE,and Cromartie from Philly that are free agents out there worth more than what smith brings as a playmaker to this team....10.7 million *LMAO* good luck smith, im sure a NON contender will be happy paying you that much laughable income......

Marcia,

Mean to tell youre also graduated college and havent learned to "connect the dots" yet? The only degree youre familiar with has a small tube of mercury right down its center. LOL...

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