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Chase for Wallace begins in Indianapolis

The Indianapolis Combine begins today. General Manager Jeff Ireland will speak to the media Thursday per the schedule. And so let me tell you what's about to happen:

As I reported Feb. 12 the Dolphins will get about the business of talking to Mike Wallace and Greg Jennings. As Indianapolis is the site where team personnel and agents gather, I expect the Dolphins will touch base with the representatives for both players in the coming days.

That doesn't mean the Dolphins will sign both players. It doesn't mean they'll sign either because, well, stuff happens. As I said, they'll work it with both. But it means they have a plan and both players are part of that plan. The plan has Wallace as the priority but also includes Jennings -- perhaps as a fallback position, perhaps in addition to Wallace.

It is not possible to know exactly what Ireland has in mind with Wallace and Jennings because he doesn't share that with anyone in the media. But it is certain the Dolphins will chase Wallace first. He is the priority. Then Jennings will come soon afterward.

And that brings us to this:

The story is not whether the Dolphins want or are interested in or will speak with top target Mike Wallace or his agent.

The story is whether the Dolphins can actually land Mike Wallace.

Wallace, you see, is the second biggest free agent name this Dolphins administration has chased. The biggest was last year and his name is Peyton Manning. But as the Dolphins haven't exactly been nails landing the guys they want, it is fair to wonder if they can be successful this time.

(A note here: If you're thinking back to last year and say the Dolphins chased and failed to land quarterbacks Matt Flynn or Alex Smith, I reject that idea. The team placed no "must-have" priority on either of those players. The contract offered to Flynn was only borderline starter money, more than suggesting Miami could take or leave Flynn. So Flynn took the more sure thing in Seattle. As for Smith, I'm not even sure the Dolphins offered him a contract and if they did, it definitely was not for the $8 million per year he was seeking. So again, the team wasn't all in on getting Smith. I don't see that as failures of any sort. Indeed, hindsight has shown Ireland was wise to steer clear of both.)

Now, the Dolphins did fail on Manning. They not only didn't land the biggest free agent they'e ever chased, they even failed to be among his finalists. Yes, the club managed a meeting with Manning but if you remember they had to fly to see him. Manning, meanwhile, went to Denver and other places he was truly interested in to speak with those teams. The Dolphins were in the hunt, but they were the hound way back in the pack gasping for breath and watching the lead dogs tree the game and get the big pat on the head.

(Where the heck did I come up with that analogy?)

Miami has also failed in other free agent attempts, to be sure, but one that should worry is the failed effort to land Ryan Clark. You remember Clark? He came to South Florida via Pittsburgh, apparently ready to sign a deal that would take him away from the Steelers.

He never signed. He returned to Pittsburgh.

Clark's story is that the Dolphins offended him. They told him how he was flawed and not worth a ton of money and made him feel unwanted, etc ...

The Dolphins have a different version but that version does not matter now.

The Clark version matters because he is Mike Wallace's teammate in Pittsburgh and if the wide receiver asks, that's the version he's going to hear. Facts be damned, Wallace will likely hear the Dolphins painted in a negative light. And so Miami could be swimming against that tide to convince Wallace this is the team for him.

There's also this little matter of competition. I seriously doubt the Dolphins will be the only team chasing Mike Wallace. Although his asking price will likely start around $11-$12 million, as I first reported on January 25, Wallace is likely to have other suitors.

His agent's job the next week will be to drum up interest in his client so that Wallace can have teams bid against each other. I have no idea what teams will target Wallace aside from the Dolphins. The Dolphins are projected to have the third-most salary cap space in the NFL when the league year opens March 12.

So they can afford Wallace.

But there have been rumors Cleveland and even Cincinnati might also have interest. And they happen to be the two teams with more cap space than Miami.

It must be said the Dolphins have not been inept at landing their man. In 2010, Karlos Dansby was considered the prize defensive player in free agency and the Dolphins got him straight away.

They got Jason Taylor away from the New York Jets in 2011.

(Yes, they lost Calvin Pace to the Jets in 2008 but thank God!)

So there have been hits and misses once the Dolphins have identified their targets. They identifed Wallace weeks ago.

The chase begins now.

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Guys,

Everything in this world is about marketing. Marketing makes us all different regardless of race, creed, or color.

We canbe of the exact same culture and still maybe you like green beans and I dont. Or I may like green peas and you dont.

Does it make sense for disdain towards you be because you like like green beans and I dont? Well, that's exactly what the ignorant population of America has come down to. Its the exact same principalities.

I agree with Silas Rude, in part. Dwayne Bowe is a stud WR but Fins need a speed guy = Mike Wallace. So I say get Wallace AND Bowe. Or Wallace and Jennings.

Frankly I would be surprised - no shocked - if the Fins do not acquire Wallace and Bowe or Jennings. Two of the three. Ireland has to improve the O big time, and NOW, to keep his job. Even if that means reaching the cap limit by signing two of these guys.

The D is good enough as is, if Ireland wants to use one of the first 3 picks on a D-lineman or safety, OK.

2 of the first 3 picks on O lineman? Sure. They will all be cheap for the next 3 years - so he/Ireland is free to spend to get veteran WR's that can make an immediate impact.

With all 3 of these guys it is going to come down to one thing - money.

So all Ireland has to do is outbid every other team for their services. He has nothing to lose by doing so, but everything to lose - like his job - if he does not. The future is now.

And I have no doubt that he has Mr. Ross's full support in spending big on the FA WR's. Plural. Two of them.

I'm really not sure what to think about Wallace.
On one hand he is a defense stretcher, serious deep ball threat, and a definite upgrade to anything we have on roster, and a young, improving and excelling talent.
On the other hand, his stats overall are average, and he rates below most receivers in 1st downs, receptions, YAC, etc. He only rates highly on TDs (good thing) and 20+ yard catches. He's sort of the really great B receiver that beats you when you're focused on the A receiver.
Strangely enough the guy we kicked out (B.Marshall) kicks Wallace's butt in most catagories including YAC, 1st downs, overall yards etc.
So... is he worth being THE MAN? I would definitely like him on my team, but for 12 mill, I'm guessing he'll be THE MAN. Would you pay another star "A" receiver that money too?
That's where I'm doubtful.
Simply think this is a tough call.

The story is whether the Dolphins can actually land Mike Wallace.

Wallace, you see, is the second biggest free agent name this Dolphins administration has chased. The biggest was last year and his name is Peyton Manning. But as the Dolphins haven't exactly been nails landing the guys they want, it is fair to wonder if they can be successful this time

Mando,

They landed Karlos Dansby who was the one of--if not the biggest player in FA BUT Parcells was instrumental in making that happen.

I believe they can be successful in landing Wallace but that also means they're going to have to overpay. TB had to overpay to get V-Jax & I fully expect that Wallace will match that contract & maybe even exceed it that since he's younger than V-Jax was.

Ideally, we sign Wallace, and grab a potential star receiver for the other side in the draft.
But if Ireland signs Wallace, I gotta think HE'LL think he's done at WR.

Worry, worry.

MANNING TURNED DOWN THE NINERS TO!!!

Wire, Meat Puppets, XTC, Television, Modern Lovers.

Everybody assumes Greg Jennings and Miami were a perfect match from the start.


Now everybody thinks wallace is a perfect fit.

It must be the same people that most said Matt Flynn was the perfect fit for miami last year becuase of Philbin his and west coast style of offense, or that Manning and Miami were perfect fits becuase of him having a condo or having then said type of weapons in Marshall and Bush.

How about how everybody was convinced Sparano was going to be canned after 2010 and replaced by Harbaugh. How did that work out?

If anything, that should teach miami fans that you shouldnt believe this team is that predictable and you shouldnt believe that miami will do much of anything except raise the overhyped status of big names signing here.

How bout you all just take a wait and see approach instead of propping up your playoff and championship banners for 2013 as the Paper Bowl Champions!

You can have an Education(Phd if you wish) and not have Culture at all. To be cultured means to be well versed in the 3 basic Areas of knowledge of Humankind, the Humanities, the Social Sciences and the Physical Sciences.

JSLA,

Finally something we agree on. Signing a fa and thinking Hartline's the answer on the other side is incredulous to say the least.

We've been through this before with Marshall. Hartline had a grand total of 4 tds recieving with Marshall recieving double teams on the other side.

Even when Marshall was being doubleteamed we didnt have any guys that could take advantage by getting the ball into the endzone. So what good does it do to have a wr that commands doubleteams when you dont have other recievers capable of getting the football into the endzone.

That totally defeats the purpose of getting a guy that commands oubleteams. Folks, even if by miracle we got Wallace, he isnt going to blow the top off of a defense every single pass play. This is the nfl, not wheel chair roller derby.

..Yg. From last nighs blog. I wasn't direting that Breaston comment toward you..I knew where you were coming from. As far as being mellow. I use this forum as an escape. It is relaxing for me(once you read through all the jibber jabber)...I have a very stressful day to day job.(I'm sure most of us do) So blogging is a tool for some relief. I just don't have the energy, or the desire to get to rilled up over anything written on the internet. It isn't life or death here..Just some fun.

"Wallace, you see, is the second biggest free agent name this Dolphins administration has chased. The biggest was last year and his name is Peyton Manning. But as the Dolphins haven't exactly been nails landing the guys they want, it is fair to wonder if they can be successful this time."

Mando,

And that made NO SENSE b/c the Dolphins did not have the cap space to pay Manning so wtf was that even about. They did the same thing with Eric Winston from the Texans after he got released. Did Ireland honestly believe that Peyton or Winston were going to give him a discount for the chance to play for the Dolphins who sucked the year before???

These are the kind of things that drive me nuts about Ireland...Why are you even wasting your time??? Last year you had no cap space so only talk to players that you could afford. The same goes for Alex Smith & Matt Flynn. WTF??? Go check your draft board for the 154th time...

Landing Wallace ($11-12million) is must. I dont care for Jennings and Bowe. Keep Harline ($7million) and Bush ($5 million). Then for an explosive TE, I would draft both Ertz and Eiffert. Remember the Patriots drafted Gronkowski and Hernandez in the same draft. The offense would be amazing. Keep Long($12-15 million). Thats about $35 million. Draft CBs, at least two of them. I would say.

Round
1. CB
2. TE
2. TE
3. CB
4. OL

DD,

Still you seem like a very nice guy. I hope youre not quite as mello in real life as you seem here. We all need and edge in life. If not, imo, life would be pretty damn boring. LOL...

Posted by: Common Sense Please | February 20, 2013 at 02:57 PM

Ive made posts pretty much alluding to the same exact thing. Sure, Jennings seems to be campaigning to come to Miami, but is it a ploy to also drive up the bidding for his offseason services?

Could be he's using the Dolphins as a "pawn" to drive up price with potential bidders.

Hartline for 7 million a year*lmao*...why not just up the ante to 10 million or slap the franchise tag on him while your at it??!!!

Nobody wants to face Billy.B or Tom Terrific 2x a year, Ravens&Steelers are both in transition at the end of the day Wallace&Jennings will be elsewhere !! The Dolphins will draft 3 recievers in the 1.st 3 rounds a very smart move at the end of day for the Dolphins f.office !!

DD,

Also, there are probably a few posters here that think I hate them, or at least they may hate me. But I hate no one. Even if we hotly disagree or throw rocks at eachother, its never personal with me.

At the end of the day, its all just life happening. Its not about dealing with the individual, it all about learning to deal with life period.

You see, reports are coming in, from the same source that said Wallace is their primary FA WR target, that they will probably keep Long also.

the only certianty in miami regarding the offseason is nothing is a sure thing regardless of cap space or how many draft picks they have...its just double the trouble when Irefiend is making the FINAL decisions...

"•Leads the NFL with 30 catches of 40-plus yards since 2007"
This is from the GB Packers site on Greg Jennings and some say he is not what we are looking for. He probably would save us a couple of Millions in cap compared to Wallace. Not saying that Wallace is not great but I believe that Jennings would be a better fit in Philbins system and has played under Sherman. He could hit the ground running.

maybe I'm not fully understanding the rookie salary cap, but if I'm not mistaken, any WR drafted, even top round would be around 5x (and up) cheaper than resigning Hartline.
And considering I think that most of them through round 5 are better players than Hartline (IMHO)... seems kinda worth a thought.

just sayin.

You disappear to work for a while and all the clowns and kids come out to play....too funny!!

Angry bunch....

...YG..LOL Thanks.

How important is is to be first out of the gate as far as signing these WR's? For instance. Say Wallace signs with the Bengals(this is the rumor I keep hearing more and more..Whatever) his number is something that is 10-11 million a year for 4-5 years. Make up your own, not the point. The point is does this give us leverage, or does it take it away? We were talking about buisness last night. I like to have a starting point in any negotiation. Sometimes it is to my benifit, sometimes it isn't.

But my thinking here is that Wallace will be the highest paid. Then the others fall in line. So Jennings may want Wallace type money. But much like the draft. The contracts get less with the value of the pick. Say Bowe comes off the board second? Does this give us even more ammo in our negotation?

Or, beause we have so much cash. We want to bully the market, and set the prie to screw other teams down the line that don't have much cap space.But beause the bar is set so high, all the contracts that fall in line are inflated beause the top salary is more? We also get the pick of the litter here, most risk IMO.

"Everybody assumes Greg Jennings and Miami were a perfect match from the start.

Now everybody thinks wallace is a perfect fit."

Common Sense,

I still think Jennings is the better fit based on what type of offense we run & based on the familiarity that Jennings & Philbin have with one another.

Of course Wallace is younger & faster but Philbin has no idea what type of kid he is getting inside the locker room & he has no idea if Wallace coachable.


You see, reports are coming in, from the same source that said Wallace is their primary FA WR target, that they will probably keep Long also.

Posted by: oscar canosa | February 20, 2013 at 03:13 PM

That Source speculating is Omar Kelly from the sun-sentinel...not exactly the best world proof journalast out there...Just Sayin

•Leads the NFL with 30 catches of 40-plus yards since 2007"
This is from the GB Packers site on Greg Jennings and some say he is not what we are looking for. He probably would save us a couple of Millions in cap compared to Wallace. Not saying that Wallace is not great but I believe that Jennings would be a better fit in Philbins system and has played under Sherman. He could hit the ground running.

Opti,

Agreed.

By the way, I've been to the Louvre. Awesome experience. The Mona Lisa was a lot smaller than I expected. Seeing the Venus up close was also pretty cool. I recommend Paris to anyone, awesome city. Even Jay Z liked it ... remember that song N****S in Paris??

And I also had Chili for lunch.... nobody siad the sides have to be mutually exclusive!!


Posted by: mace taggart | February 20, 2013 at 03:11 PM

Correct! Until we "GREATLY" improve our ability to "SCORE POINTS" we'll never be little more than just a 8-8 team anyway. Unless we really strike it lucky and get a 2001 Ravens defense.

As a matter of fact, it wasn't Omar, superPHIN, that reported that about Long, it was Adam H Beasley, who I believe works for this newspaper.

Dez Bryant B.Marshall D.Bowe and R.Moss all great guys, they're all pillars of their respected communities, they're all great character men, people we all can trust. Are wives girlfriends and children are safe and our community is in great hands with great role models like these good honest men representing our community go dolphins !!

I've also enjoyed the hell out of Paris on multiple occassions. It's genuinely spectacular.

Never had the slightest problem there. Rudeness? Not any more than any other big city around the globe. Hell, it's friendlier than most American big cities, if you really want the truth. And certainly safer.

A first-timer will want to do all the touristy stuff but if you go again I recommend just walking arond all the cool neighborhoods/arrondisements like the Marais.

(Prague and Rome I love even more, btw)

DD, you catching today's games? barcelona should eb docked three goals for wearing those kits!!!

What's wrong with you people??? The Bengals are NOT going after Wallace. They are BY FAR the cheapest organization in football & according to some reports they haven't even addressed re-signing Michael Johnson or Andre Smith yet.

They already have A.J. Green who is CLEARLY a number one & there are people who HONESTLY think the Bengals will shell out over $11 Million a year for a Number Two??? No way. Not happening. It's the teams that didn't have winning seasons that will chase him like us, the Browns, the Chiefs (if they don't re-sign Bowe), & the Rams.

Mark in Toronto,

Funnily enough, I'm taking my oldest daughter to Paris for a couple of days in August. Looking forward to it.

Nice TJ, I liked Rome also but Paris trumped it, IMO - excpet for the women, my tastes slant more towards the Italians than French but they both had their fair share ... much more elegant than the average North American woman ....

And Prague ... that's on my list along with a bunch of places in northern Europe ... Russia, Ukraine, Poland, Romania, they're all on the list ...

...Mark..Hell yeah this is a sweet matchup..I freekin hate Italian teams. Cant stand the style of play. Barcelona look like the orange and yellow starburst candy smashed together. I thought they rocked the pink gear away..This is way worse.

Today I am thinking about tiny pineapples and tiny parakeets and tiny squirrels. So tiny you need a magnifying glass to see them!

I would like to have these things in a glass box in my room so that I could watch their tiny antics all day long!

WNP, nice point regarding Cincy and Wallace. if they pay him $11M, then they will have to go back to AJ sooner or later and trump that figure ... then Wallace probably mopes ... that can fugg things up ...

Craig, I'm jealous man. You been?? I wasn't expecting much when i went but man, blown away. A true experience man... enjoy.

well, oscar it was Kelly that made it officially noted on twitter about wallace being the top target, maybe just maybe Beasley fed off that report.....doesnt really matter becuase rumors and reports are almost the same thing in the NFL...most of the time not 100% true, and that is fact....

"Funnily enough, I'm taking my oldest daughter to Paris for a couple of days in August. Looking forward to it."

Craig,

I don't think 'funnily' is a real word. Not even in Canada. Well...Maybe.

Seriously though how the economy overall in Canada?


Posted by: Opti/Pessi Mist | February 20, 2013 at 03:14 PM

Jennings will be 30 this year. So if Im a gm, signing him absolutely would not be based on body of work since 2007. That player just does not exist anymore. In 2007 Jennings was only about 24yrs old.

As a gm, I would go no further than 2yrs of body work on Jennings. Then still, at 30yrs of age you can still be far off. Because at 30, some players fall of the table quicker than others as far as sliding down the other side of their prime.

How fast a player slides once he gets to the top or other side of their prime greatly vaies and is "EXTREMELY" difficult to predict.

IMO, t could be based on how well a player took care of his body and the shape he kept himself in throughout his entire career. IMO, that's what may be the "chief decider" in how fast a player falls when nearing the end of his career.

WNPs,

The Bengals have about $52 million available in cap space. Yes, they have Andre Smith and Michael Johnson up for FA but I truly believe they will be the lead dog when it comes to Wallace. I believe they are really close to doing something special and Wallace opposite AJ Green, sticking it to the Steelers twice a year would be perfect!

DD, I expect Milan to get smashed. I can sympathize regarding Italian teams. I remember growing up when their league had all the money and players and we all had to be subjected to their arrogance and general malaise towards the sport or at least towards the way it shoudl eb played. Italy definitely tried to kill the beautiful game. Weird approach too because they are technically gifted as anyone. Glad those days are long gone...

Mark, Prague is freaking AMAZING. The city escaped damage in WW2 and even under Communist rule the historic areas were lovingly preserved unlike so many other places.

Seriously, the city seems like something out of a dream. Winding cobbletone streets everywhere, beautiful squares, and Gothic castles looming over it all. Just an outstanding experience.

My undone European Bucket List? Slovenia. Everyone I know who's been there loved it and it's still relatively off the beaten path.

WNP, things are pretty good here ... as long as you don't build cars ...

WNPs,

'Funnily' not a word? REALLY?

Mark, 18 days in Scotland next Summer with the whole family and a couple of days in Paris and two in Ireland with my oldest daughter. Never been to Paris but people tell me it's incredible. The guys here will be glad to be away from me for almost three weeks.

Here come the 'can't wait' comments in 3,2,1.....

I like the idea of Wallace spreading the field BUT you saw what impact Boldin had in the playoffs. That big body that can go up and get the ball. I like Bowe alot. I think the Chiefs have been terribly coached with terrible QB play. Wallace for over $10M - no way! Get Bowe for under $10M and then look at Jennings. He won't get big money with his injuries the last 2 years. If not jennings i think the next guy would be Donnie Avery form Indy. Guy was a #1 out of college and looks pretty healthy now. He crushed us when we played them this year. He won't command big money at all but could be a solid #2 or #3. Stretching the field is nice but i think Wallace will be all about the money and at his age will get a ridiculous contract that will saddle a team for awhile. Remember Philbin told Marshall he has no #1 WR's so why pay one guy so much money.

WNPs,

Just for you:

adjective
1. providing fun; causing amusement or laughter; amusing; comical: a funny remark; a funny person.
2. attempting to amuse; facetious: Did you really mean that or were you just being funny?
3. warranting suspicion; deceitful; underhanded: We thought there was something funny about those extra charges.
4. Informal. insolent; impertinent: Don't get funny with me, young

tj, everything I see from prague sounds like the way you describe. One day man, one day ...

Slovenia, one of my good friends is from there. "Funnily enough" I don't think he's been back.

Landing Wallace ($11-12million) is must. I dont care for Jennings and Bowe. Keep Harline ($7million) and Bush ($5 million). Then for an explosive TE, I would draft both Ertz and Eiffert. Remember the Patriots drafted Gronkowski and Hernandez in the same draft. The offense would be amazing. Keep Long($12-15 million). Thats about $35 million. Draft CBs, at least two of them. I would say.
Habib,
Up coming season we play, as usual Brady twice, we get Brees, Flaco, Ryan, Rivers, Roethlisberger and Luck. I don't believe a rookie CB could be the answer. Even if smith came back it was not good enough last year and we would not be any better in the secondary this year. We need to upgrade the CB position with a shutdown veteran and that would be another 10 Mil or so..

Armando, you hit a great point It's not whether we have the cash as much as if hi-end players like Wallace can foresee the Dolphins as being a winner and OK being around a no-name roster.

Little more for you WNPs:


Example sentences for funnily
Funnily enough, the answer lies in those same pesky values.
Funnily enough is the mind bending effects that treats depression keep searching.
And funnily enough it is many of the same commentators on here that oscillate between all three viewpoints.
And funnily enough when you account for enough data to actually discern a significant trend it's up, same as always.
Funnily enough, that's what actually happened in the real universe, if you think about it.
Funnily enough, they're acting in what economists would call textbook fashion.
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The Bengals have about $52 million available in cap space. Yes, they have Andre Smith and Michael Johnson up for FA but I truly believe they will be the lead dog when it comes to Wallace. I believe they are really close to doing something special and Wallace opposite AJ Green, sticking it to the Steelers twice a year would be perfect!

Craig,

You'd think so right??? And it would put the Bengals over the top too but it's not in the Bengals owner's DNA. He is HATED in Cincy b/c he's a cheap b@stard.

BTW--They are close. No doubt about it. They have a LOT of good players on defense, they have a strong O-line, they have a good young QB, a great young WR, a good pass catching TE, etc. This kid Sanu from Rutgers (who I liked coming up last year) was starting coming on before he got hurt.

DD,

Im seeing some disagree, but Im with you on this. Wallace makes the most sense in Cincinatti.

1. Wallace isnt a true #1 wr. He doesnt have to be with Green there.

2. Green/Wallace/Andy Dalton would be unstoppable. Dont forget they also have TE Jermaine Gresham.

3. Dont forget it would give Wallace a chance o try and stick it to the Steelers twice a year for letting him walk.

Guys saying Wallace to the Cincy doesnt make sense. Well just saying that, you fail to make even less sense.

Interesting how imbedded within the Clark story is a recurring theme that the South Florida media seems reluctant to talk about.

That is, that Jeff Ireland is personally an insecure jerk who doesn't relate to people well. There are numerous accounts - the Dez Bryant "prostitute" debacle, his alienation of former players, the Clark hardball maneuver - not only are these patent signs of a guy who has very little leaderAnd if you watch interviews of him, Ireland is constantly puffing himself up, throwing out his background as if to say, "hey, treat me seriously, I'm a football guy." ship qualities, but this gets around the league.

ust for you:

adjective
1. providing fun; causing amusement or laughter; amusing; comical: a funny remark; a funny person.
2. attempting to amuse; facetious: Did you really mean that or were you just being funny?
3. warranting suspicion; deceitful; underhanded: We thought there was something funny about those extra charges.
4. Informal. insolent; impertinent: Don't get funny with me, young

Craig,

Not serious in the slightest. Trying to add a little levity.


Posted by: Craig M | February 20, 2013 at 03:33 PM

CraigM,

I se you get it too. Guys saying Wallace to the Bengal doesnt make sense are the only ones who arent making any sense. LOL...

Opti, neither Ertz nor Eifert are explosive.

Jordan Reed, Gavin Escobar, the other dude from Cincy ... they have a chance to be explosive.

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