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Chase for Wallace begins in Indianapolis

The Indianapolis Combine begins today. General Manager Jeff Ireland will speak to the media Thursday per the schedule. And so let me tell you what's about to happen:

As I reported Feb. 12 the Dolphins will get about the business of talking to Mike Wallace and Greg Jennings. As Indianapolis is the site where team personnel and agents gather, I expect the Dolphins will touch base with the representatives for both players in the coming days.

That doesn't mean the Dolphins will sign both players. It doesn't mean they'll sign either because, well, stuff happens. As I said, they'll work it with both. But it means they have a plan and both players are part of that plan. The plan has Wallace as the priority but also includes Jennings -- perhaps as a fallback position, perhaps in addition to Wallace.

It is not possible to know exactly what Ireland has in mind with Wallace and Jennings because he doesn't share that with anyone in the media. But it is certain the Dolphins will chase Wallace first. He is the priority. Then Jennings will come soon afterward.

And that brings us to this:

The story is not whether the Dolphins want or are interested in or will speak with top target Mike Wallace or his agent.

The story is whether the Dolphins can actually land Mike Wallace.

Wallace, you see, is the second biggest free agent name this Dolphins administration has chased. The biggest was last year and his name is Peyton Manning. But as the Dolphins haven't exactly been nails landing the guys they want, it is fair to wonder if they can be successful this time.

(A note here: If you're thinking back to last year and say the Dolphins chased and failed to land quarterbacks Matt Flynn or Alex Smith, I reject that idea. The team placed no "must-have" priority on either of those players. The contract offered to Flynn was only borderline starter money, more than suggesting Miami could take or leave Flynn. So Flynn took the more sure thing in Seattle. As for Smith, I'm not even sure the Dolphins offered him a contract and if they did, it definitely was not for the $8 million per year he was seeking. So again, the team wasn't all in on getting Smith. I don't see that as failures of any sort. Indeed, hindsight has shown Ireland was wise to steer clear of both.)

Now, the Dolphins did fail on Manning. They not only didn't land the biggest free agent they'e ever chased, they even failed to be among his finalists. Yes, the club managed a meeting with Manning but if you remember they had to fly to see him. Manning, meanwhile, went to Denver and other places he was truly interested in to speak with those teams. The Dolphins were in the hunt, but they were the hound way back in the pack gasping for breath and watching the lead dogs tree the game and get the big pat on the head.

(Where the heck did I come up with that analogy?)

Miami has also failed in other free agent attempts, to be sure, but one that should worry is the failed effort to land Ryan Clark. You remember Clark? He came to South Florida via Pittsburgh, apparently ready to sign a deal that would take him away from the Steelers.

He never signed. He returned to Pittsburgh.

Clark's story is that the Dolphins offended him. They told him how he was flawed and not worth a ton of money and made him feel unwanted, etc ...

The Dolphins have a different version but that version does not matter now.

The Clark version matters because he is Mike Wallace's teammate in Pittsburgh and if the wide receiver asks, that's the version he's going to hear. Facts be damned, Wallace will likely hear the Dolphins painted in a negative light. And so Miami could be swimming against that tide to convince Wallace this is the team for him.

There's also this little matter of competition. I seriously doubt the Dolphins will be the only team chasing Mike Wallace. Although his asking price will likely start around $11-$12 million, as I first reported on January 25, Wallace is likely to have other suitors.

His agent's job the next week will be to drum up interest in his client so that Wallace can have teams bid against each other. I have no idea what teams will target Wallace aside from the Dolphins. The Dolphins are projected to have the third-most salary cap space in the NFL when the league year opens March 12.

So they can afford Wallace.

But there have been rumors Cleveland and even Cincinnati might also have interest. And they happen to be the two teams with more cap space than Miami.

It must be said the Dolphins have not been inept at landing their man. In 2010, Karlos Dansby was considered the prize defensive player in free agency and the Dolphins got him straight away.

They got Jason Taylor away from the New York Jets in 2011.

(Yes, they lost Calvin Pace to the Jets in 2008 but thank God!)

So there have been hits and misses once the Dolphins have identified their targets. They identifed Wallace weeks ago.

The chase begins now.

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Apparently, Artie, if we wind up with Wallace, the FO believes he will get the ball from RT as equally as to how he receieved it from Big Ben. We have to trust our FO now.

Artie, if you DON'T pay him 12 million then someone else finds out

I want to be one of Dashe's cool diaper friends. How can I join the club? Do I just agree with him all the time or do I ask him interesting questions in admiration?

Bob Griese had to overthrow Paul Warfield just to keep up with Warfield's speed.

Yes, well trust the FO not just now, but after the decision is made, as with Flynn.

At the same time, YG, Griese had no arm at all.

My biggest fear is that we sign Wallace then resign Hartline and Ireland thinks the Offence is set.

If Hartline resigns and we get Wallace,we still have to draft Patterson in the 1st or failling that,Hunter or Hopkins in the 2nd with Jordan Reed in the 2nd/3rd.

Also,i dont understand the fascination with Dustin Keller. The guy has proven he's very average.

Surprised to see Vanna White in a vomit-stained coat and swigging Smirnoff from the bottle tonight.

That show has really gone downhill.

Most shows are going downhill because they are only that, shows.

Odindoche,Tell us about the time you were looking forward to go hunting with your 12 year old kid while high on Morphine.
If you need help I'll go back in the archives and get it.

On the TE issue. If the WCO, which we will get a better look at this year, uses the pass to open up the run, I would think we need to have catching TE's with the ability to block rather than the opposite. Seen many, many, many plays where the QB takes the snap, and passes. No 3, 5 or 7 step drops. for a fast paced game we need that type of offense. so the blocking TE is used mainly for running plays. We have Fasano and Clay, both can catch and block but are not domination. Do we take a TE whose strength is catching or blocking.

Mark,

Many feel like none of the WR's in this draft are worth a top 12 pick.

The Dolphins could fill another hole like CB or DE with their 1st and draft a good WR like you say (Hunter, Baily, Hopkins, Austin) with one of their seconds.

That would still be a pretty good WR corps IMO.

Although I do feel like signing Wallace or Jennings and resigning Hartline along with having Bess and Matthews would give Patterson more time to develop.

It must be said the Dolphins have not been inept at landing their man. In 2010, Karlos Dansby was considered the prize defensive player in free agency and the Dolphins got him straight away.

-Armando Salguero-

Huh?

I dunno Mando, it's at least borderline "inept" in my opinion.

Dansby is a servicable MLB, but paying 50 million for his production? It seems like a blunder to me. Get a REAL MLB and move Dansby back outside before it's to late.

My biggest fear is that we sign Wallace then resign Hartline and Ireland thinks the Offence is set.


Posted by: Mark | February 20, 2013 at 07:50 PM


My biggest fear is that you will continue to add nothing to the blog.

DolRic,
Nice line up.
Although I do feel like signing Wallace or Jennings and resigning Hartline along with having Bess and Matthews would give Patterson more time to develop.
If we can keep Bush for the right price I would like to see him rotate with Bess every now and then. Have Bush in the backfield and also lined up wide. Could be interesting.

Posted by: Opti/Pessi Mist | February 20, 2013 at 08:00 PM

First of all guy, you need to learn he wco's history. It wasnt devised to set up the run. It was devise "to compensate for the inability to succesfully and consistently" run the football.

Do you guys really know how ignorant you sound when coming here blabbing something you know zero about? For godsakes, research something for once in your lives before talking about it.

Some folks here actually research the s h i t they talk about here. Just keep snatching out of your ass as you go along and hope everyone else is as ignorant as you. Geesh! LOL...

Go fukk yourself peanut or i will end you....

Now I trust this FO. If they start making a lot of dumbassss moves we can take them down easily. But it will need a Collective effort. Now you have not shown to be disposed to that and more to cover your individual Asssses. Now, answer me, who hired Mueller?

We're in the "INFORMATION AGE" and people still choose to be idiots. That's whats scariest about today's society.

Information at their finger tips and still to lazy to go past stupid. LOL...

Posted by: Opti/Pessi Mist | February 20, 2013 at 08:09 PM

I'm guessin the deal with Bush is they would rather have the money to upgrade the recievers and they have Miller who they want to get more carries.

Apparently Bush isn't backing down from wanting to be the every down back and get paid like it.

I think he would be an awesome weapon with about 10 less carries up the middle and 10 more plays in the passing game.

I think the Saints drafted him for that role. He didn't want to play it so they let him go and signed Darren Sproles.

Let me get this straight...The Dolphins wasted draft picks, time and money to acquire Brandon Marshall. He was let go because he was a diva. Now we want to go down the same road with Wallace and his diva personality. Seems pretty foolish if you ask me but that is the Dolphins for the past 15 years.

Yeah, yeah, YEAH!

It's a good day to be a Dolphins Fan!

School starts tommorrow, so I'm taking my 15 year old out for some last minute target shooting.

Taking him on his first Goose Hunting Outing next weekend!

Shooting the shyt out of something should off set the Morphine quite well!

ValHalla!!!!

Posted by: odinseye | September 05, 2011 at 06:18 PM

I'll save you the trouble, I found it., Tell us Stank, How'd that hunting trip go while you were blitzed on Morphine?| Odin stank, You remember maing this post?, I know it was almost two years ago(And you being a 69ear old drug addict) but do you remeber?, Do you?

Do you guys really know how ignorant you sound when coming here blabbing something you know zero about? For godsakes, research something for once in your lives before talking about it.

Posted by: Yesterday's Gone 4Ever! | February 20, 2013 at 08:10 PM


Does this explain why you change your mind and contradict yourself every 2.7 days?

You know, Teo is the man one day, then the next day anyone thinking defense with the first pick is an idiot, flip flop around the clock?


Who is "we?" The dozen or so middle-aged, alcoholic social misfits that regularly blog here?

I don't think they could take down an ant farm.

Opti/Pessi Mist,

If a team' running game is weak, no amount of passing will set it up. Remember our weak ass run game during the Marino era?

Passing only sets up the run when you actually have a run game dc's have to game plan to stop. Then if youre successful at passing, the defense has to back off of youre run game, because the safety's are playing too low in effort to stop your run game.

Not jesting at all. Answer me, who hired Randy Mueller and we'll you show you clearly we are not jesting at all. But of course, you won't say.

Are you drunk?

Yeah, yeah, YEAH!

It's a good day to be a Dolphins Fan!

School starts tommorrow, so I'm taking my 15 year old out for some last minute target shooting.

Taking him on his first Goose Hunting Outing next weekend!

Shooting the shyt out of something should off set the Morphine quite well!

ValHalla!!!!

Posted by: odinseye | September 05, 2011 at 06:18 PM

Ohhhhhh, Snap, Odin,What say you?, Quite a Damaging post.

our problem last year was not having any wr's that forced the safety's to back off of our run game. It ws 8-9 in the box every running play.

Did you think Bess and Hartline worried anyone?

OK FinsFans....make the call.

The Fins can only pay $12mill per year to one player.

Do they pay it to Long or Wallace?

My vote continues to be Wallace!

to Mika-Donna Wallace!

But, man, answer my question first about Mueller then I'll answer you if I'm drunk or not. I know you know.

Here Is gents, the Wallace rumors are part of a trial ballon by the Dolphins, he is not on theirs plans because of more needs a not sufficient cap space to spend 25% in one player

Guys, say what you want. Think what you want. If Long walks, you can be sure our LT in 2013 will not be as good as Long at his worst. Martin was no where close.

Defense will allow you to march up and down the field all day long as long as youre not scoring tds.

Hartlines 70 plus receptions, under 1,100 yds, and one td had to scare the hell out of dc's and db's. Up and down the field with no scores to show for it. LOL...

PS: At somepoint, you do still have to score points to win a game right?

Just making sure something didnt change while I was asleep LOL...

Mueller. I don't know his story. Obviously he rose to GM on personal connections and not ability.


Posted by: jpao | February 20, 2013 at 08:32 PM

jpao,

In the "real world" your scenario doesnt exist. With $46 million in cap money the Dolphins can pay 3 players #12 million dollars. It all depends on how Ireland chooses to use it. Not what we think.

Yesterdays fool, while you are laughing at others, feel free to laugh at yourself.


You saw how well all world Fitzgerald performed with a subpar QB? Did you notice Cris Carter didn't even think Megatron was elite until Stafford upped his game?

It IS a team game, no matter how much you giggle about your opinion of the day.

OK, obviously you do not want to answer specifically to my question. Now, in general, who hires GMs? Anybody knows?

Hell, with $46 million in cap money, Ireland could give Wallace, Long, and another olineman $12 million apiece. Then resign either Fasano, Bush, or Starks.

Everybody else walks in fa and those positions get addressed in the draft. Seems you guys really dont know how many totally different directions this can go when you have $46 millon dollars and 5 picks in the 1st rds plus 4 other draft picks.

Seems you guys keep running around in the same old enclosed bird cages, on your hamster wheels. LOL...

Well I'm out folks. Gotta go do some studying in case YG4E wants to know the history of the tampa 2 defense or something.lol

Gotta get a call in to Dungy.

Btw YG, At least the guy wasn't posting Ross is cheap or fire Ireland or Long is a bust over and over.

Our GM was not hired by our owner. But I have to believe, those that have our owners ear, Parcels and Peterson, gave him advice.

YG,
Yeah Yeah Yeah, read all about the WCO posted by various guys on this blog, all about Art and Don Coryell and Bill Walsh and his philosophy, and the history of it. We as, not only Dolphin fans are Football fans and well, and watching other teams we can judge where other HC's have developed their philosophies from. Looking where Philbin came from and looking at the GB running game for the past 7 years tells me that it is the pass that he is leaning on to be successful.
Also by the way I am adding a Cut and Paste of the Walsh philosophy on the WCO as per "About football.com
"In most conventional offenses, the idea is to run the ball to draw the safeties and linebackers in closer to the line of scrimmage, thus opening up passing lanes for a vertical attack. The West Coast Offense does just the opposite, using a quick, horizontal passing attack to set up the running game."
Please don't read and write football but watch and think.
I guess it is time to leave cause a bunch of US guys are home now, opened up a few beers and are ready to talk trash.
Good Night Gentlemen.

NOT hired by our owner you said , Artie? Then, who hired him?

Posted by: Caju | February 20, 2013 at 08:39 PM

Hey fool, did you notice Ryan Tannehill may as well been Peyton Manning compared to the Cardinal qb's? Kolb went down in week 6, thier starting LT went down just before then.

1. Kolb had 8 tds passing before going down in game 6.
2. Backup John Skelton 2 tds passing
3. 3rd stringer Bryan Hoyer 1 td passing

Please stfu idiot. LOL...

Posted by: Caju | February 20, 2013 at 08:39 PM

Also fool, how dare you compare Hartline's td deficiency to Fitzgerald's last year. Fitzgerald had 4 tds recieving with the "Three Stooges" playing qb. LOL...

Wayne hired Parcells, Parcells brought in his marching men.

You must be very careful in saying somebody rose to the top based on personal connections, Artie. What did they do, buggger somebody up high, fukkk somebodys premier wife? Careful there.

Yes.

Artie,

When Parcells was hired, he was effectively gm, he just took on the name of chief of football operations. Parcells just pretty brought in his "handpicked" successor, Jeff Ireland.

Jeffy sold Bill and Tony out, Thats why he's still with Ross. Dont get it twisted, Ross can fire Ireland and hire his own hand picked gm anytime he wants.

How did you like my interview with this guy, redsky? I think real professional and I didn't even enter into some personal stuff with him.

yg, ridiculous as always. They will never pay more than one player $12m per year. So, make a call.

Nothing is twisted Yesterday. The history is well known.

Now, some of you have trouble connecting the dots.

Parcels is gone.
Sparano is gone.
Ireland is here.

Why?

Who has/had Ross's ear?
Whose opinion is Ross going to respect more than Parcel's and Peterson's.

Ireland sold no one out, nor could he. Parcels sold Sparano out, and that is the scoop.

If you think the youngster sold the veterans out, then you just don't have much life experience. Ross, Parcels, Peterson are men of years...no 20 something greenie has a chance to sell anyone out. Mr. Ireland has earned respect as an ace scout. As a GM? The jury is still out.

For all you Ireland haters. Make no mistake, he may last in Miami or he may not, but he will be an executive in the NFL for a long, long time.

Oscar, I hope you enjoyed the lesson.

For those that can't read between the lines, Ireland is still here because the advice Ross got from his two sources encouraged it.

I remember Fidel Castro, one Night, while he was as high as a kite on some stimulant, let me interview him on Yoani's Blog. Talking real psychopathic stuff like, the good you do it little by little the bad you do it all at once, I am one great SOB, etc, I heard him therapeutically and commented on his ramblings occassionally. Of course, even at that Time, he didn't care, he knew he has all the Power in Cuba and he will die with his Revolution on and nobody can do anything about it.

I remember Fidel Castro, one Night, while he was as high as a kite on some stimulant, let me interview him on Yoani's Blog.
Posted by: oscar canosa | February 20, 2013 at 09:29 PM

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Sir you are either a wizard or a liar, I'd say the latter.

ARTIE, HAVE YOU EVER EATEN BEES?? I WOULD LIKE A GRILLED BEE SANDWICH AND ALSO MASHED BEES.

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