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Will stadium vote cause the Dolphins to have more urgency this offseason to impress fans, voters?

This morning the Dolphins will make official what the Miami Herald confirmed on Saturday, namely that the team's attempt to secure hotel bed tax dollars and other tax breaks to help finance half of a $400 million upgrade to Sun Life Stadium would be put before the voters of Miami-Dade County in the next few months.

It's a gutsy move by the team. It's also something of a Hail Mary because even though local taxpayers are not generally having to fork over the money themselves, asking voters to  approve any tax increase of any kind (even when it's on tourists) is often not a winning proposition.

And it doesn't help that the county's elected officials did such a horrible job vetting the Marlins and dealing with that rogue organization as they negotiated a deal for the new Marlins Park. Public monies beyond bed taxes were used in that deal because the Marlins were losing money and promised to field a great lineup in exchange for their deal.

Except it was eventually learned the Marlins were making money. And the politicians never got the team to open its books before or after that fact came to light. And after one season of upgrading the roster, the club conducted a fire sale and will field a glorified Triple A team lineup this coming season to save money.

So the Marlins and the politicians that voted on their behalf screwed Miami-Dade.

And the fallout from that bomb threatens the Dolphins in this upcoming vote.

But ...

This vote also offers the Dolphins a grand, awesome opportunity. And, if embraced by the club, it can mend the recent narrow but apparent fissure between the team and its fans.

As you know, Dolphins' fans have not been thrilled with the recent direction of the team. The last four years of 7-9, 7-9, 6-10 and 7-9 were not great, but this break was coming well before that with Nick Saban lying and Bill Parcells splitting and Cam Cameron stinking.

So the love affair has been a little rocky and the historically low attendance last season was proof.

But, as I mentioned, this offseason, this vote, this time in team history is a grand and golden opportunity. Think of it, if the team reaches for greatness and that lights a fire under the fan base to turn out to the polls, we could go to August with:

1. A better team filled with promise and some actual proven stars.

2. A team whose house will be modernized.

3. A team that actually seems exciting to its fans.

4. A team that will remain in South Florida for a long, long time.

5. A team whose fans backed it at the polls.

And all this without winning a game. Indeed, all this without even playing a game.

So how does this happen?

Remember right after the season when I suggested the Dolphins handle this offseason in the fashion the Miami Heat handled the offseason in which they got Dwyane Wade re-signed, and added Chris Bosh, and LeBron James and Mike Miller?

Remember the offseason the Heat went big?

That's what the Dolphins have a chance to do this offseason with $46 million or so in salary cap space and five draft picks in the first three rounds.

And so that is the opportunity. The Dolphins can tilt the offseason, the roster, the fan base and the vote in their direction if they simply have the, um, fortitude to go big this offseason as the Heat did three years ago.

Get a bigtime playmaker or two in free agency. In other words, win in free agency. Then add talent in the draft that doesn't suggest you're going to be the same team you've been for a decade. Get that seam-threatening tight end. Get a promising safety to team with Reshad Jones. Get us some corners that knows how to do this thing recently foreign in Miami, what's it called? Oh yes, intercept the football.

Add a running back if you have to.

Hey, how about checking out the trade market, too. Percy Harvin might be out there. Explore, it! (I'm not ready to push for that move per se. But at least explore. Don't sit in a dark film room studying tape of the right guard from New Mexico, when freaking Percy Harvin is dangling out there.)

Dare to be great. And let your fans know as much.

Now, all this sounds like fanciful sportswriter mumbo jumbo, right? It's just a columnist with a vivid imagination sitting at his computer, eating twinkies and filling space.

Well, it would be that if I was lazy.

I'm not lazy.

I texted several of my Dolphins sources about this very subject Sunday. I asked if the team welcoming a vote would cause greater urgency to do something exciting?

The resulting answers were mixed.

First, the topic has not been discussed internally. Remember, the announcement is today. So there has been no grand strategy session within the organization to see if football operations can be helpful to the business side.

This, by the way, has to fall at the feet of owner Stephen Ross. He knows the business side has agreed to take the issue to the voting booth. He had to approve such a move. So once he got done with that conversation, why didn't he pick up another phone (my understanding is billionaires often have multiple phones) and call the football side and say, "Hey, general manager Jeff Ireland, we're doing this presser on Monday. We've got $200 million on the line here. The vote will likely be in May. I want to hear what you're going to do to help. And, you better help!"

That's the owner's job. He has business interests that represent $200 million dangling on a vote, it should automatically dawn on him to rally every asset within the organization to make sure the team does what most professional sports teams are in business to do: Win.

Win the offseason.

Win the fans over.

Win the vote.

(Peanut gallery speaking: "But, Mando, we want a team that wins during the season, not the offseason.")

Shaddup, ya foofs.

There are no games available to be played now, okay? And to win in the regular season, you have to build a team successfully in the offseason.

Anyway, I call on Ross, the head of the Dolphins organization, to get his business side hand and football side hand to speak to each other -- one hand working with the other -- and come up with a strategy that willl make the entire organization emerge from this victorious.

Is the business side into the idea?

Heck yes. In talking to a couple of people on that side, they completely agree that if football operations makes some significant advances or moves that convince fans the team is clearly going to be better, they are more likely to win the election.

"This would seem to be the time to make a statement," one source texted me.

That same source asked if signing a particular player would get fans fired up. I cannot divulge the name of the player used because my job is not to get sources in trouble for tampering. But suffice to say the player is a looming unrestricted free agent who makes plays.

I told the source it would help. But I believe it will take more than one player to light the excitement flames for Miami fans. Also, and more importantly, it's going to take adding more than one player to make the Dolphins much, much better. That's the beauty of all this. The business side would love signing several talented players because it helps them. The football side should love the idea of adding gobs of talent because it helps them.


So the business side would be pleased if this was the approach.

But, and here comes the newsy part of this post, the football side doesn't seem too excited with the idea at this point. I texted a couple of folks on that side, too.

I asked if the vote would bring greater urgency to get bigger name players.

"Nope," was one response I got.

"Doubtful," was another response. "We make football moves for the longterm well-being of the franchise, not to please fans."

Alrightie, then.

So, the football side is not on board at this time. It is going about things like this is another offseason that brings opportunities to improve. But it is not approaching this like it's make-or-break and $200 million and the long-term viability of the team in South Florida are at stake.

Do I agree with this?

Yes. And no.

I agree that winning rather than pleasing fans should be the goal. Always. But some people act like winning and adding bigtime players are mutually exclusive. BREAKING NEWS: Adding great players is what brings winning.

Also, if you're telling me that despite the need to please fans with a big name addition you would, as a hypothetical example here, refuse to pay Mike Wallace $15 million per year, I agree with you.

But, on the other hand, if you're saying you'd refuse to go to $10 million per year because you want to also add the $4 million per year guard, I'd think you're a certifiable dunce.

Deep threat. Imperative.

Guard. A grunt that isn't going to win you games.

(Peanut gallery speaking: "But Mando, you need good interior players too to win big in the NFL.")

Shaddup, ya twits.

You can't name the four guards that started in the Super Bowl and even if you could, you can't name one occassion when a guard scored in the NFL this season. And teams must score points to win. Also, the Dolphins have guards on the team already.

So where does this all leave us?

We have one side of the organization hoping the other side gets on board while the owner is in the middle having not yet broached the topic with either.

Let's hope this changes. There is still time before free agency. There is still time before the draft. There is still time before the NFL trade period opens. There is still time before the Miami-Dade County vote.

Most importantly, there is still time for the Dolphins to become a synchronized organization with all sides harmonizing toward a common goal. 



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This is the year the fins really make a splash in the off season. They should sign mike wallace and take a safety in the first round. Second round find a big reiceiver. Third round take either a fast tight end or a good corner. What ever is the best option at the time. I really think we are a lot closer than most people think. I few more peices and we are a play off team. The must is a vetran wide receiver and a rookie wide out also. Keep bess in the slot and its a solid offence for sure

Excitement is not enough. Winning is everything.

I'm all in for spending the $46 million to get $200 million. I'm not a billionair but it sounds like a pretty good idea. Let's put the chips on the table and be relevant once more...

Of course, better viewing of very exciting Players would be great, but if you put a consistently winning product on the Field along with 1 or 2 Champioships, I guarantee you People will go whatever the condition of the Stadium is. Tell me about it. For Games at the beginning of the Dolphins franchise, we were perhaps 10-20 thousands at the OB. When Shula came and the Team began to produce solid Wins, there was an explosion on the sales of Season Tickets and the rest is History. That's the nature of the SoFla Fan.

Good God, please dont let us become the Philadelphia Eagles. Just trying to sign names in fa alone is recipe for disaster.

Didnt work when Shula tried it neither. There has to be a surefire cohesive plan. Not trying to sign every guy with a name and deep pockets to be filled.

Call me old fashioned homer, but, in no way do I believe getting a deepthreat wr alone cures our wr ills. Especially if Hartline is resigned too.

Lets say our opening day wr's are Wallace, Hartline, and Bess. Neither Wallace nor Bess are true #1's. Plus it doesnt mean Hartline and Bess magically begin scoring tds.

Better pray if Wallace, Hartline, and Bess are our opening day wr's. Wallace had better be able to score 15 or more tds to make up for their deficiency towards scoring. Thats a very great longshot to happen.

I see Wallace at 7-9 tds paired with Bess and Hartline. If even that, because dc's primary focus will be to game plan him away and Bess Hartline still wont score tds in bunches. They didnt do it when Marshall was being doubled.

Good Lord Flipper beads been posting for 15 Stright hours., Flipper can you beat Odinstanks 32 hours of non stop posting?

DB, How do you post for such long periods?
Are you in a Wheel chair?
Please tell us how you do it.

On an aside from Football, when has a Pope ever resigned from his mandate? Unbelievable stuff happening nowadays.

Also, the new policy on commentaries by TMH does away with Anonimity. Hmm...

Things developing at c2.



A new Pope will not change anything, ALoco. The pressure on Them is by design.



I honestly don't see a connection between the stadium and the offseason. The goal is to always win. Ireland himself has stated this is a big offseason and looks forward to that extra pressure. He knows he needs to do this to keep his job not for the stadium deal.

I also agree Wallace by himself won't cure the ills of the offense. The offense needs 3 WR's this offseason, a legit #1 RB (Miller?), a pass catching TE (in case Egnew struggles) and likely an OT since Long wants so much money. The good news is the team has the resources to do this this year.


TIME FOR ARMANDO TO START THE (( FAKE ALoco )).................

Why do we have to bring up the stadium issue and put even more pressure on Jeff Ireland? Can't we allow him to enjoy his vacation this offseason? The man is really stressed out, for some reason his picks are supposed to improve the team this year. He doesn't have Bill Parcells to tell him what to do and to blame when things go wrong. So explain to me why is is a good idea to load more pressure and stress on this fine family values man, Jeff Ireland.

It is not the same as with the Heat. They added two players and already had Wade to a starting FIVE.

As we know a football team has 22 starters...one player does not make a huge difference unless your already pretty darn good.

If that player is a WR,CB,TE,Safety,or RT we will certainly take him though as Davone Bess, Aman Binns, Richard Marshall, Dimitri Patterson, Jerrod Mastrud,Jimmy Wilson and Nate Garner are currently on the depth chart as the starters in those poistions.

(Peanut gallery speaking: "But Mando, you need good interior players too to win big in the NFL.")
Shaddup, ya twits.

You read that Craig M? That's for you...LOL!!!

Armando, believe it or not, some fans want us to get that Alabama guard with our first pick...Imagine...Some people never learn I guess...

Anyway, time to go to work...Great blog today Armando...


Offense clearly wins in the NFL these days. The priority this offseason should be on getting the offensive playmakers needed. Moreover the Dolphins also need CB's. Well making a splash for Mike Wallace should come first and then getting another WR early in the draft and a TE in FA will do wonders for the offense. Look at the amount of points now scored in Super Bowls. Offenses dominate and the moves that Ireland makes should be dictated by getting more playmakers on offense first and formost. Jeff will still have two picks in the 2nd & 3rd rounds to pick up some CB's.

This sounds really good and I'm pretty much in agreement with Mando's thinking...but I seem to remember the Philadelphia Eagles, the Buffalo Bills, the Washington Redskins and other teams the last few years try to win by making splashy, big name signings in FA and that didn't work so well. I also disagree with the take the slow approach solely through the draft. I think there needs to be a good balance, and the coaching staff needs to be innovative enough to use the talent they have and get the most out of them.

But I'd take a flyer on Harvin. Consider his injury history, but definitely check him out.

I just can't connect the dots between the Marlins or Heat to the Phins. The invisible tax plan for the upgrade is almost a no brainer. If anything it was a lesson on what NOT to do.

And while some fans may get concerned or continually spew sarcasm and get near a panic state regarding the offseason. I optimistically look forward to the opportunity of significant improvement. I believe in these coaches and FO until proven otherwise. There will be addition by subtraction and a retool but this is necessary to get to the next level.

"If you renovate my stadium, I promise the players will try harder to win".

- Stephen Ross


Yes! Signing Wallace does exactly that. It helps everyone else score TD's. While watching the dolphins games this year, the announcers kept pointing out the fact that the dolphins play offense in a 20 yard window. That allows the corners to cheat down as well as the safety's. This makes everything in that window so much harder to complete. And to add to that, with the safety's cheating down, it makes running that much more difficult. Signing a deep threat like Wallace doesn't allow teams to continually put 8 in the box. They would have to respect his speed. Which will open up the game for the other receivers (hopefully Harline) and Bess. Now they will have the same issue when they get in the redzone, but by doing this I expect at least more YAC because there will be less defenders around to tackle players. Now to address the redzone comment, look at most teams successful in scoring in the redone, what do they have in common? A huge playmaking TE. This is no longer a luxury. These are matchup nightmares that are the difference between 7 or 3. I am very comfortable resigning Hartline, getting Wallace, and signing Cook, Bennett, Finley, or ever Lewis (yes, he might be cut. Excellent blocker and TE machine). This will dramatically improve the offense's issues. I stil draft a WR in the 4-7 round to groom IF I believe Matthews, Moore, or Fuller are not the answers.

Be gentle... don't post here a lot and understand everyones opinion is different, while all wanting the same result.

Ireland's Republican Army says:
So explain to me why is is a good idea to load more pressure and stress on this fine family values man, Jeff Ireland.
Well it's not a good idea, he should be given a break. That said last offseason Jeff traded away 2 players without replacements (WR and CB). That was a mistake costing the Dolphins the playoffs as things played out. Moreover Jeff was looking for an acorn in Michael Egnew. It did not work out although it may still. Everyone should be positive at having two picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds but the cost could have been making the playoffs this past season. Ireland is getting another year to prove himself and the bottom line here is that Jeff and none of his supporters should complain about that.

Mike Dee says it makes good business sense to rape the tax payer and not have a carpet bagging New Yawk BILLIONAIRE spend HIS money for his benefit. Unphcuking believable. Vote this in at your own peril taxpayers.

Manod, stop trivializing the role of the offensive line. You can't win if you can't keep your QB upright and you can't win if you can't give your playmakers time to run their routes. By the way, the OG's you think were nobody's in this year's super bowl. On the winners, marshall Yanda is a pro bowler and highly paid. Oseleme was a 2nd round pick from the Ravens last year. You don't think it's important, Ozzie Newsome does and I take his word over yours every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Isolated to baltimore you say? Nope SF alos has a guard they spent a first round pick on in Iuapati from idaho (Sounds similar to that dark room guard from New Mexico you were talking about, no?)

Not saying the Dolphins need to search for OL more than anything else, nope that is not it. Spending $10M on Wallace is probably a sound move. But not spending money in free agency or one of their first three picks on an OT is just as important.

O line doesn't score touchdowns so it's not important ... pff ... I haven't heard anything so stupid by someone who gets paid to cover the game.

Hey Mark,

You might want to share that with #1 Fan in Montreal. Apparently he disagrees with you.


I think Mando just didn't communicate the position well. What he should have said (IMO) is that we've put way too much priority on the lines, and not enough on skill positions in years past, and we need to get some balance. The teams in the SB seem to have that balance (they have 2 superstar WRs, have 2 pretty good TEs, have a great RB, have a 1st-round QB to go along with the oline). Miami has used their high-round picks almost solely on the oline, and we're STILL tinkering.

So, I agree, we need to find a better balance, and understand you need a good oline to block and protect, but you also need a good group of skill position players that make that oline useful (and not blocking and protecting a Henne pass to Clyde Gates).

That SHOULD be Mando's position (I believe it is).

By the way I was describing Baltimore above, SF did it a little different, but basically have the same pieces.

But yes, oline is important, as are 21 other positions on the field.

Mark in Toronto says:

Spending $10M on Wallace is probably a sound move. But not spending money in free agency or one of their first three picks on an OT is just as important.
Your correct on this however after spending so much to have a great offensive line fans and bloggers are frustrated with the results. An expensive LT that wants out if he does not get huge money, and an OL that has had issues. Draft picks and much money was spent on the OL in free agency to only have many released causing a cap mess. So Armando most likely feels with some good offensive linemen on the team. Let's get some playmakers in Miami first.

Mark's point is well made. It's not a coincidence that teams like the Ravens and Niners are there in the Super Bowl. It's not JUST about the playmakers. It's ALSO about opening up lanes to run and protecting your QB. The top teams in the NFL get it. Doesn't mean we should try and invent the wheel.

It's also coaching. There was an olineman in Washington (Lichtenstieger, sp?) who was here before Shanahan. They hated him. Then Shanahan brought his zone blocking scheme and made much better use for him. Last year Washington was a great run team (thanks in due part to the line).

So maybe this staff gets more out of the guys we're going to keep. Let's add that into the equation as well.

Whats the point of drafting OL's if you cant draft the right ones? For the last 5 years mangement has been concentrating on the OL and please check the Dolphins record the last 5 years. The 49ers and Ravens have more playmakers than dominating OL's Craig M

DC, part of me believes that is Mando's view too but he's not saying that. he's been on record saying we should get Jennings and Wallace and re-sign hartline. Where does that leave money for anything else? That is not balance.

He is speewing this nonsense then when the Dolphins spend a lot of money to sign Jake or his replacement or use a high pick on that guy, the sheep will come out and type nothign but hate on this franchise for doing the right thing.

Both teams in the Super Bowl invested quite heavily on their o line and skill positions. No point having only receivers if you don't have the line to protect. Then you end up like Detroit and New Orleans slinging the ball all over the place and also turning it over because they big fat slugs insted of athletic big men holding down the fort.

You're right baltimore and SF have the ferraris in flacoo and kaep and VD and Crabtree and Smith and Boldin but SF and Bal have 6 combined o lineman that were 1st or 2nd round picks.

Mark, remind Armando that o-linemen don't throw pick-6s and game-losing interceptions; don't fumble away the game, either. They don't take sacks, moving the team out of field goal range; they don't stop the clock when it needs to run; nor do they throw the ball away on 4th down. They don't catch or throw passes short of the marker on 3rd downs; and they definitely don't run straight into their teammates' butts.

Took this off of PFT this morning:

'But for the Steelers, it might just be the natural progression of the roster after they used a 2010 first-round pick on Maurkice Pouncey, a 2011 second-round pick on Marcus Gilbert, a 2012 first-round pick on David DeCastro and a 2012 second-round pick on Mike Adams'.

The Steelers. Most winningest franchise in the NFL. What is it now, 7 titles? Yeah, I'd say they know a thing or two about winning Championships. Two first round picks and two seconds on their line. Do you there's a bunch of Steeler fans sitting around saying, 'Enough with the high draft picks on the OL. What's our GM doing? Idiot!'.

There might be something to this strategy after all...

By the way, I also agree has frittered away resources on both the skill positions and O line. They drafted o line ok but Jake breaking down too early has really thrown a wrnech in things.

On the skill side, the trading of two good picks plus a huge contract on the idiot Marshall really set this process back. They would've been further ahead if they just spent those two 2nd picks on WRs or TEs in the draft.

Rob Gronkowski, Gelden Tate, Kyle Rudloph, Torey Smith, and Randall Cobb were all players taken in the 2nd round in 2010 and 2011. This is what happens when you make stupid "John Madden" moves.



the Saints will be back...I woudn't be using them as an example of ineptitude to make you're point....

Detroit is much safer...they are the NFCs Bengals....having to get past the PACK and the Bears to win a division.....everything will have to fall just right....

The Saints have only the inconsistent Falcons to deal with...Saints aren't done by a long shot....

It's seems to be a pattern in the NFl that the teams we most envy (Pitt, Sf, Bal, etc) seem to have three guys on their line that were first or 2nd picks. It always seems the OTs and one interior guy are premium talents. We have one OT (although he must get stronger but is at minimum a good RT) and the interior guy (who is all world)... sucks but we need one more OT that is a premium player or pick.

After the Marlins, the voters would be crazy to vote to help billionaire Ross. He's run the team into the ground already.

Kris, the Saints got their arses kicked by the 'Hawks and Niners in back to back playoffs since winning it all. matter of fact, i remember Brees throwing turnovers all over the place in both games.

Stephen Ross, the worst owner in sports?


I gotta agree with Mark on this one. There's nothing that makes me think the Saints will be what they won the year they won the Super Bowl. In fact, it's just a matter of time before the Bucs and Panthers catch them too. Their defence is a disaster and unless Ryan becomes Houdini in a hurry they ain't winning anything any time soon.


Craig M and Mark...

I look forward to conrtinuing this conversation on the Saints in DEC and January....cause most likely the news on the FINS front will have turned to the 2014 draft....

we'll @ least have this...to poke each other with....

I have no problem with one of top five picks being an o-lineman. Or signing a free agent like Levitre. The WR and CB positions need to be addressed as well. The WR position is rather glaring because it wasn't really addressed last year. I'm not sure why we need to act like we're doing something unique by trying to add playmakers. Isn't the idea to win?

Maybe Kris. Or maybe next year will be my year to call for 11-5....LOL. We'll see.

Ross, has little chance of voter support without replacing Ireland. Maybe he'll rethink that before the vote and the draft.

Trying to make things happen on behalf of the team? Will McDonough would be proud.

Interesting read this morning on Peter King's MMQB. He's actually suggesting the possibility of what I talked about last week, the idea that the Ravens would only franchise Flacco, thus leaving another team able to sign him and give up two first round picks for him. They're already over the cap, without taking Flacco into consideration and signing him to an 'exclusive' franchise contract would add an additional $6 mil to the $14 mil they'd have to give him if franchised.

Interesting read. No one is saying it's going to happen but it is a possibility. Kris, is it possible the Ravens miss the playoffs next year all together?

Fin 77, Ross has NO chance for public money without replacing Ireland. And even then it will still be iffy. Ross is WORSE then Loria.

Agreed. Agreed! Agreed!!

The Fins/ Ireland Has To Do Big Things!!

Ireland's Job Depends On IT!! HIS LIFE!!

The Fins Need The Upgrade For The Stadium! Not Just For Games! But Also For Superbowls!! C'mon! New Orleans? New York? Arizona?

Superbowl Should Be LA, Dallas/Houston, Miami! Yes, LA NEEDS A FOOTBALL TEAM!
$200 Mil On Ireland's Head!!

Make The Right Decisions!! Staring With Free Agency!!

How Much Is Clady Going To Get?

That And Maybe $1 Mil More Is What Jake Will Get!!

Sign Wallace!

Pickup A Free Agent TE! Keller I Guess!! Keller Can Be Had For Less Than Finley!! Even though J.Lane Is Finleys Brother!! Either Or Better Than Fasano!!

While We Are Taking From The Jets!! Take Their RG! He's A Free Agent! Pro Bowl OG! That We Can line Up With Long, Cogs, Pounce, and Martin!

On RB's! We Can Sign Bradshaw For Less Than Bush! And He Knows To Share Carries!! Plus He Runs Hard!! If L.Miller Can Beat Out Bradshaw And Thomas! Next Year!! We Know We Have A RB!!

On Wr's! Hopefully Ireland, and Having Philbin Now!! Get A Couple Veteran Acorns Right!!

Signing Lloyd For 1 Year! With The Addition Of Wallace!! Means The Fins Will Only Have To Draft 1 WR!!

So The Offense Seems Simple Ireland!!
Resign Long! Or Get A Player Of Equivalent Value To Play LT OR RT!

Sign Bradshaw! Or Another Veteran RB To A 2 Year Contract!! As Long As It Is Not Reggie Bush!!

Sign 1 Good Guard!!

Sign Mike Wallace!! And A Veteran Wr For $4-5 Mil!! Whether It Is Lloyd Or Jennings!! Forget Hartline!! He Doesn't Score TD's!!

Oh, And Get A Faster TE!!

Kris, I hope the poking is metaphorical!!!


I hope so. You're soon to be a married man....LOL.


Craig M....

the Ravens looked so bad without Ray Lewis....I woudn't be surprised if they did miss the playoffs...I think they were 0-5 without Ray on the feild...

On Flacco...

my guess is if he gets franchised....Flacco will be with a NEW team in 2015...maybe us....two years will be enough time to decide Tanne is a starter...or a clipboard holder....

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