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GM Salguero: Put Jared Odrick on the trade block

Watching from the sideline as NFL teams are beginning to divest of talent for salary cap reasons, I assume you know the  Dolphins don't have to cut any players for cap reasons but might want to do that with a couple of guys anyway.

I posted that potential Dolphins list right here a couple of weeks back.

But as this is a lead-the-pack blog not a catch-up blog we move forward to my next thought: And that is this is the time of year teams begin to inventory their talent and see how it fits and where it is lacking and how to make that which does not fit pay some sort of dividend.

And in pondering that, I look squarely at Jared Odrick.

Odrick is a Dolphins defensive end who just finished his third season with the team.

And he is interesting because he simply doesn't fit right now.

Although defensive coordinator Kevin Coyle defended Odrick during the season and made the point the kid is fine as a 4-3 defensive end, the truth is Odrick is not fine as a 4-3 defensive end. Odrick was drafted in 2010 by a team that ran a 3-4 defense to play five-technique. The five technique in the 3-4 is called the defensive end, but he's really more like a tackle.

The 3-4 defensive end has to be a great run-stopper and generally is a 300-pounder. If that player can rush the passer that's a huge plus, but it's not the end of the world if he's more of a run-stopper. And for that assignment Odrick is well-suited.

Odrick is a good run-stopper and has 11 sacks in 33 NFL games, which would be very good for a 3-4 DE.

But the Dolphins no longer run the 3-4. They are primarily a 4-3 team and the requirements for the defensive end in that alignment are different. A 4-3 DE must be a pass-rusher because that scheme doesn't employ linebackers to be the primary pass rushers. The ends are the primary pass rushers. And while the 4-3 DE should be solid against the run, that is not how they make their big money.

So to recap: A 4-3 DE must be a fine pass-rusher and run-stopping comes second. A 3-4 DE must primarily be an excellent run-stopper and pass rushing is secondary.

Everything about Jared Odrick screams 3-4 DE.

And having him out there as a 4-3 DE tells me the Dolphins don't have a legit 4-3 DE as a starter opposite Cameron Wake.

So what to do?

Well, the Dolphins will be looking to add a better fitting 4-3 DE somewhere in the draft. If they don't, something is wrong. And if that draftee becomes, well, a player then perhaps the Dolphins can toy with the idea of moving Odrick inside as a defensive tackle, where he's probably better suited.

But ...

If I were running the team or helping the general manager run the team, I'd be standing on the table suggesting the team trade Jared Odrick.

Why?

He's not a fit for the scheme. He was an investment for the last scheme and the last scheme is long gone. He's still got value around the NFL because a lot of NFL teams run 3-4 defenses. But his value is greater to those teams than the Dolphins. Remember that the St. Louis Rams paid $6 million per season to Kendall Langford to sign as a free agent 3-4 DE. If Randy Starks hits free agency, he'll be asking upwards of $8 million per season.

Odrick is going to cost $700,000 next year and only $765,000 in 2014. That's a long way from $6-$8 million.

It makes sense to put Odrick on the trade block because perhaps a team such as Denver or San Francisco might give up a very low first-rounder for him. Or a team like Oakland might give up a very high second or third rounder for him -- assuming it has that ammunition.

I cannot be certain this is true because he's not on the trade block right now. But you put him there to gauge interest. Let's see what happens. One cannot catch fish unless you dangle bait.

(And now the peanut gallery complains that Odrick is a former first-round pick and giving him up for anything less than a first rounder is bad value).

Look, it's not a great situation. But did you read the part where he's not a fit at DE for a 4-3 team? Remember that part? This is a huge year for linemen in the draft. Perhaps giving up some value to get a pick that will bring a legitimate 4-3 DE is better than using a shoehorn to try to make a 302-pound 3-4 end fit the 4-3.

The Dolphins can take the draft pick it gets for Odrick and use it or add it to other ammo they already have in the first couple of rounds of this coming draft to trade up for a better player.

And that player might actually be a fit for the schemes the Dolphins now run.

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It doesnt hurt to throw Odrcks name out there and see if anyone would pay a 3rd for him.

WNP, difference between DUI and DWI varies state to state (I think) but generally its the BAC (blood alcohol level). Like 0.5-.10 might be considered DUI, and then everything above is DWI (DWI is always worse). DC actually has an OWI (Operating While Intoxicated) which can be as low as 0.02 (under the legal limit).

People think they're ok if they blow under a state's legal limit, but depending on the circumstances (and the attitude of the officers) you can still be charged and booked.

"WNP, I also agree that Misi played his best season last year. But to me, he still looks like a guy who doesn't fit. I mean, he's kind of too big to be a LB, too small to be a DE in a 4-3. He's not a great pass rusher, is a little stiff in coverage. But he is a good tackler. Looks more like a guy plugging a hole than a keeper. Although I agree we couldn't have asked more from him last year.

Also faced with the opportunity to draft a Dion Jordan or jarvis Jones, do you really pass based on the fact that we have Misi playing that pass rush role from an outside LB???"

All good points. I'm just saying that Misi impressed me this year. Maybe it's b/c we had a bunch of players where tackling was a MAJOR issue that I appreciate Misi, Jones, & Clemons.

As for Dansby....The missed tackles were embarrassing this year. I'm not saying I'd cut him b/c the tear in his biceps probably had something to do with that BUT one of the things we're going to need is for Dansby to tackle better or this defense won't be able to get off the field.

WNP, there's a lot of details that have been left out or never explained from the Kindle incident. He was in "a home" in Austin Texas? Who's home? His, friends, huerhouse, crackhouse?

His college coach also said his fall had to do with narcolepsy? Really??? I'm a conspiracist and just as I watch Ronald Whathisname publicly selling out his public image on various talk shows just to hide T'eo homosexuality, I also believe there's a good chance Kindle wasn't just walking out of the shower. Not many 21 year old super athletes just fall down stairs so bad that their heads break.

They have Vernon who produced some blocked kicks and etc. this year, let starks go move odrick inside and take the $

Mark...

I think kindle as in a Lighthouse....

I mean how else to you fall down so many stairs....

Yeah, Misi is a good player for sure - all heart and hustle - but not enough big plays. Maybe if they didn't have Burnett or Dansby ...???

I also agree Dansby should be doing a lot more. He's regressed pretty badly ...

Kris, no kidding ... a lot of cover ups in that story.

"WNP, difference between DUI and DWI varies state to state (I think) but generally its the BAC (blood alcohol level). Like 0.5-.10 might be considered DUI, and then everything above is DWI (DWI is always worse). DC actually has an OWI (Operating While Intoxicated) which can be as low as 0.02 (under the legal limit).

People think they're ok if they blow under a state's legal limit, but depending on the circumstances (and the attitude of the officers) you can still be charged and booked."

DC,

Interesting. Glad I no longer drive. LOL.

They have the technology to prevent people from operating a car if they are under the influence right??? Don't people who get busted for DWI's have to blow through a tube or something to get their car started??? Look into it Lindsey Lohan...

IMO--Like the seat belt I see this as a necessity as opposed to being a 'nuisance' for drivers. The facts are that people don't always make rationale decisions under the influence of alcohol.

'Rationale' is a word with an entirely different meaning. You meant to write 'rational.'

lets put Ireland on the trade block except nobody would want him, He will get rid of Reggie this coming year and then we won't have a running to go along with the passing game which has under performed to say the least. Pleas fire Jeff and let Philbin pick the players he has got to better!!!

It doesn't hurt to throw Odricks name out there and see if anyone would pay a 3rd for him.

Posted by: Just Sayin | February 07, 2013 at 01:21 PM
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Jstsyn....... Can't help but agree. Also can't help but feel Miami will do just that. Doesn't mean they will pull a "Trade Trigger"... but getting a sense of Odrick's value across the NFL cannot be a bad thing. If I were Odrick... It would be exactly what I would want Miami to do. If Odrick can bring a more scheme worthy alturnative while moving to a team where he can maximize his abilities and get paid... Everyone wins.

Here's the kicker.... Even though Odrick's salary is favorable to teams... you only get a year of that. If I'm not mistaken, Odrick starts his contract year in Spring. Teams may figure that drafting a low 1st or 2nd as Armando valued Odrick would get a player with significant talent and 4 years of 2nd round money as opposed to 1 with some experience... Odrick is a solid player... If he lay's down a favorable contract year, he's a $4.8 thru $5.5 Million Dollar player. Betcha Miami Keeps him....

"WNP, there's a lot of details that have been left out or never explained from the Kindle incident. He was in "a home" in Austin Texas? Who's home? His, friends, huerhouse, crackhouse?

His college coach also said his fall had to do with narcolepsy? Really??? I'm a conspiracist and just as I watch Ronald Whathisname publicly selling out his public image on various talk shows just to hide T'eo homosexuality, I also believe there's a good chance Kindle wasn't just walking out of the shower. Not many 21 year old super athletes just fall down stairs so bad that their heads break."

Mark,

I think that there's a good chance that Kindle was drunk.

As for T'eo you think he's gay??? Hmmmmm....That would actually make perfect sense & is probably the only way to explain that ridiculous scenario & the subsequent stories.

'Rationale' is a word with an entirely different meaning. You meant to write 'rational.'

Editor,

You're correct. I apologize for the error & it won't happen again sir...LOL!!!

'DUI' and 'DWI' are the same thing. They are simply different terminologies. DUI is the acronym for 'Driving Under the Influence' and DWI means 'Driving While Intoxicated.'

The terms themselves are irrelevant to the BAC restrictions in individual states, with .08 being the most commonly used standard.

You are most welcome.

31 other teams would give Miami a 3rd rounder for Odrick. He's a very solid, imroving young player who is versatile enough to play inside or at end.

You guys talking about him as if he's a bust are woefully misinformed.

Either that, or...

Does anyone know if we're going to be getting a compensatory pick for Langford in this draft??? He was a 3rd round pick & was signed by a team where he became a starter. I really don't know the formula of all that works. Anyone???

Great article Armando! If the Dolphins can lock up Starks first then they should definitely trade Odrick if they can get a low first or a high second round pick for him. I wouldn't trade him for a third round pick though. Even though he would be a lot cheaper than Starks for the next few seasons we have no idea if he will be as good of a tackle as him.

'DUI' and 'DWI' are the same thing. They are simply different terminologies.

Posted by: The Editor | February 07, 2013 at 01:45 PM

Uhh, that's actually incorrect. At least in my state. The penalties might be similar, but that are different offenses.

And WNP, yes, they now have breathalyzers for some offenders. But (at least in DC) you have to have been a multiple offender and already had your license suspended for a year. It's not like you can be a 1st-time offender, and get the breathalyzer in your car to avoid not driving for a 6-mo. suspension. And then you have to pay to have the contraption installed, by a licensed dealer, and then bring your car in every 30 days for inspection and calibration. It's pretty onerous (and expensive).

My advice, if you're gonna drink, take a cab.

"31 other teams would give Miami a 3rd rounder for Odrick. He's a very solid, imroving young player who is versatile enough to play inside or at end.

You guys talking about him as if he's a bust are woefully misinformed.

Either that, or..."


Blind,

He's not a 'bust' but I also don't think he's shown enough to be worthy of a first round selection. To be fair he's only been healthy for the last two seasons but this is a critical year for him to take the next step.

"And WNP, yes, they now have breathalyzers for some offenders. But (at least in DC) you have to have been a multiple offender and already had your license suspended for a year. It's not like you can be a 1st-time offender, and get the breathalyzer in your car to avoid not driving for a 6-mo. suspension. And then you have to pay to have the contraption installed, by a licensed dealer, and then bring your car in every 30 days for inspection and calibration. It's pretty onerous (and expensive).

My advice, if you're gonna drink, take a cab."

Agreed!!! Better for everyone concerned except for the poor cab driver...LOL!!!

DT are not the easiest position to fill and the most important position on the DL in a 3-4. He was drafted to be a tackle so put him there. We might not be getting Starks back so we need depth at that position. We should also draft anothe DT to build for the future at that position. I don't trust Solai either. He was so inconsistent his first few years then picked it up in a contract year. Let Odrick compete with him for DT so we have a strong rotation.

You know who is not a good fit? Kevin Coyle is not a good fit. He is a hack DC.

LOL,


WHAT HAPPND TO XYOUR SKILLS IN WRITING ?

I dont even have to read this dumb ass article, the title alone proved GM Salguero doesnt and never will know wtf he is talking about!

WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR

"The league has changed - a stout run defense doesn't mean as much as it used to anyway.

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I think the giants ,ravens and 49'rs disagre. Wvwn the jets made back to back championship games with an elite defense

I think this is a very valid idea. But if we only got a 3rd rounder for Brandon Marshall then Odrick's worth an 8th rounder at best. Do they even draft guys in the 8th round anymore???

The Browns are changing to a 3-4 and recently released players. I think Odrick would be a great fit there

Soliai will be a free agent after this year as well. So it may come down to which set you want to go with in the future. Starks and Soliai this year with Starks and Odrick starting next year or Odrick and Soliai starting this year and try and resign Soliai again. Personally, i'm going with Odrick and Soliai. I think Randall showed enough promise to elevate into a more prominant back up role to spell either of them. Depending on how the draft goes, maybe Star Lotulelei is there at 12 and you let Soliai walk after the season as well.

700,000 is cheap 4 a pass rushing dt. don't forget soliali is a free agent next year

Yeah, why not. I so agree with you. Based on this man's performance, he can do it there better than the other. It is definitely best when it comes to putting someone in the position he is best with.

Langford is a 4-3 DT in St. Louis...

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