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What must happen for the Dolphins to be Super Bowl good?

The NFL season ends today with the crowning of the Super Bowl 47 champion.

Tomorrow we begin a new season. As I write here many fans and even some teams will study the Ravens and 49ers to see if they can find clues or reasons both those teams are Super and everyone else, well, isn't.

So I gave you my opinion. What's your's?

What must happen for the Dolphins to become a Super Bowl team? No, I don't believe the distance between them and the playoffs is that great. Three or four more wins and the Dolphins are a playoff team. But a Super Bowl team?

That gulf is wide, in my opinion.

Still, can the Dolphins bridge that gap in a couple of years, as the 49ers went from 6-10 in 2010 to the NFC championship game in 2011 and the Super Bowl today?

What must happen for that to happen?

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dusty, I agree. Wanny was better then Saban, Cameron, Sparano, and probably Philbin.

not like ireland wants hartline to leave, he could offer hartline more money and still have hartline loeave gor the pats,etc

Dusty,

After Ricky 'retired' that team completely fell apart. IMO--That team that got Wanny fired was worse than the team that went 1-15. In other words, the worst Dolphins' team EVER!!!

WNP, point taken but watch the free agent pool shrink before it's an open market and then re-assess.

Dusty, Wannstedt wanted Fiedler. He could've had Brees for a song and said Brees wouldn't be an upgrade to Fiedler ... that says it all there.

But wait, he then drastically overpays for Ricky. I mean for that price, he could've hauled in a franchise QB. He wanted to play without a QB - he made his own bed. F*** him!! Wasted a superbowl defense.

"wrong craig, he won 9 or more game his first 4 seasons here, his last and only losing one he went 1-8. shula or jj, neither left hoim a qb. he had to find ways to win with jay fiedler"

Dusty,

It's true. 11-5, 11-5, 9-7, & 10-6.

But...Wanny has sucked everywhere he has been since.

oh i agree they were worse than the 1-15 team. cam cameron worst coach ive ever seen

mark getting brees has nothing to do with his coaching

that so called super bowl defense wilted all the time late in games

playmakers dont muix up the debate here. im not saying wanny is a great coach. all i said was he was better than any coach we have had since

dusty, Shula73,

Mark is right what planet are you guys on!

Wannstedt took over a fairly talented group on D in Buffalo last Yr. and IMO was largely responsible for the implosion that followed. He got the job as a payback favor from his Fins OC Gailey and I bet old Chan regrets the HELL out of it today.

In analyzing the body of work as a H.C. it is worth noting that his best Yrs. were his 1st at both NFL stops. His players Coach approach and player evaluation eroding both Miami and Chicago to bottom of the barrel when eventually shown the door at both stops.

You guys make it sound as if the man was an alright Coach and seem to forget just how progressively badly each NFL season seemed to get with him were ever he was. If your 1st campaign is a 10 or 11 win Season with inherited players (In Chicago from Ditka and in Miami JJ) from good Coaches who seemed to flame out and 3 to 4 Yrs. in your winning between 4 to 5 games a Yr. then in my book your not even worthy of middle of the pack conversation!

I dont understand some dolfans at times. We want a "GREAT TEAM" yet we get "OVERLY ATTACHED" to some of our "BlANDLY PLAIN" talent that we have on the roster.

YG you're certainly entitled to your opinion but in no way should you mistake it for fact. How many slot receivers are td machines in the NFL? That's not what the position is about, it's nice, it adds, but it isn't a prerequisite to the slot IMO.

It sounds as if you expect us to have pro bowlers at all three wr positions.

Bess is playing the slot with NO TRUE TALENT ON THE OUTSIDE OR AT TE. He is our best pass catcher, therefore YES, I absolutely believe defensive coordinators plan for him because he is routinely double covered while Hartline and the other shmos run around with one defender completely covered.

Bess was asked to play the outside for a large part of the season, was injured, and STILL put up great numbers. He was out of position.

Just because you don't think he's one of the better SLOT receivers in the league doesn't make it true.

"Even in lesser passing offenses like Jacksonvillle and Miami, players like Devone Bess and Cecil Shorts are shining."
Peter Bokowski, senior analyst, NFL the magazine.

NO, but it has to do with his talent evaluation skills

And the defense wilting - had plenty to do with his coaching. he had 7 pro bowlers on his defense - Bowens, Gardner, Taylor, Thomas, Surtain, Madison, and Marion.

Let that sink in for a minute.

"I would replace Bess for a "Bailey or Swoop" in a heartbeat if available 3rd."

How? He's signed through next season and would cost the team 2.6 million if they cut him. Certainly they can not trade someone who is such a huge disappointment on a 7-9 team.

Smith is middle of the road. At times a little above average. Starks is a decent player.
Long is becoming middle of the road. He was pushed around like a beeatch at times last year. I don't like watching that.
We need winners. Doesn't matter the position. If a player always plays on a losing team he for the most part starts to accept losing. The Dolphin players to man accepted losing as a way to play football. This is not the coaches fault.
To change Ireland should be focusing not on acorns but on guys that have been on winning teams.

dusty,

I'm not disputing Wannstedt's coaching record while he was here. But is he a good coach or did he have good players on his team. Actually JJ did a pretty nice job of stockpiling talent while he was here. If he'd been fortunate to have someone like a young Troy Aikman here when he took over, he might have stuck around for a big longer and had more success.

I think if you go back and look at some of the moves that were made while Wannstedt was here as HC, you'd cringe and see why this team began to regress. Give him credit for his record here if you like (I believe he was 4-12 the year he was fired, which I think was his record when he was fired in Chicago) but he did what Switzer did when he took over for JJ in Dallas. He coached JJ's players.

yes he had solid defense. they wilted cause they always choked, not because of coaching. that d was great in early season games. by end of year they al;ways choked in big games

Wanny was a good HC. He suffered from not having a productive GM just like Sparano and Philbin.

he was 1-8 year he was fired. fired mid season. well he had better seasons than jj did with jj's players if u want to say that. plus he had a bad qb instead of marino

dusty,

So if a team did well it was because of coaching but if they did poorly it was on the players and 'they choked'. Come on man....you're better than that.

Let that sink in for a minute.

Mark in Toronto | February 04, 2013 at 04:50 PM

You forget he also has Trace Armstrong for one Yr. with unsung Kenny Mixon and Lorenzo Bromell as his rotation guys on the DL who would both get signed away together to Minnesota were they were instant bookend starters at DE and your really forgetting the heck out of Agunleye or the fact when he finally quit mid-season after his JJ D couldn't lead the charge anymore we were 1-8 losers at home to the lowly Cards.

The Fins cheaped out on paying Ogunleye....

durty, think about that. They always did well in the beginning but got beat at the end of the year. Is it because Wannstedt always had his defense on the field? Was it because he had the most vanilla defensive system in the history of mankind that just solely relied on talent to succeed?

It surely wasnt for a lack of talent as 7 pro bowlers suggests. I don't believe that defense choked. If anything they were hung out to dry. Were they as good as the Ravens defense of a few years earlier? No, but they were more than good enough to win with.

Back to back 4-12 seasons in Chicago before he was fired. 41-57 overall in Chicago.

Never given another HCing job in the NFl after he was fired here. I think there's a lot of debate that this guy was a good HC in the NFL.

ROFLMAO!!! WANNY SUCKED!!!! He had a really well built team with a top 3 defense and couldn't get out of the divisional round winning only one wild card game! Hahahahahaha Wanny! The same idiot who hung lobster traps in the locker room to show the players they were in a trap game? The same guy who forced Ricky into retirement because he told the media they would work him, "like a race horse." the following season?

Dude please, that guy was garbage. He had the same team as Rex had in NY, Rex took them to 2 afc championships, Wanny let the team get worse every year until he was fired.

NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT NO ONNNNNEEEEEEEE HAS even interviewed him for a head coaching position since he left the Dolphins and had a mediocre run in college.

Man, please.

Wanny was a good HC. He suffered from not having a productive GM just like Sparano and Philbin.

Shula 73 | February 04, 2013 at 04:58 PM

Undoubtedly SCAPEGOATED throughout his career to the point of taking the H.C. job at the Univ. of Pitt. in a WEAK BIG EAST CONF. after UM and Va.Tech left to the ACC and was fired after his recruits got blown out by NCAA Football juggernaut Conneticut.

I think the Dolphins will try to get the Long deal done if he will agree to a reasonable deal. Martin didn't really set the world on fire at LT last year.

It's a bummer that Long has been paid as a top LT the past 2 seasons and he hasn't played that way.

I guess they need to decide if healthy if he can return to his old form.

Mark,

He was outcoached when it mattered. Plain and simple. You're right, his defences were vanilla and he never adjusted. Same thing this year in Buffalo.

He was recently just hired to be STs coach in TB btw, in case anybody missed it. This is how far he's fallen.

ELITE QB.......

FLACCO
TOM BRADU
ELI MANNING


OK QB......
P.MANNING
BREES


PS....... THE PROVE THAT FIN FANS ARE UNEDUCATED IS,THAT THEY CONSIDER DAN MARINO ONE OF THE GREAT QB'S.WHEN HE SHOULD BE FORGOTTEN FOR GOOD LONG TIME AGO..

I told you guys the out of towners were CLUELESS! They prove it over and over again everyday. Armando, cant we get rid of them they provide no revenue to the Herald or to its advertisers.

Sorry, I forgot that Wanny also ruined the Bears for years.

There have been numerous stories about how Wanny ruined the Dolphins for years. We were still paying the price for Wannys mistakes when Parcells got here!

Acquire talent on both sides of the ball. simple.

Aloco why are you talking about Marino? He hasn't played football in almost two decades. Time to cut the chord man. :)

BEST QB'S IN HISTORY....

I CONSIDER FLACCO ONE OF THE BEST ....HE HAS SHOWN THAT HE'S IMPROVING EVERY YEAR,WHILE WE R MIRED IN THE CELLAR.,ALL THESE YEARS ...

Was it because he had the most vanilla defensive system in the history of mankind that just solely relied on talent to succeed?

Publicado por: Mark in Toronto | February 04, 2013 at 05:03

Hey it worked at UM and Dallas for him nicely when JJ picked his players!

Ogunleye was actually a nice find by Wannstedt but in typical Wannstedt fashion, he shipped a guy away in his prime for Marty Booker and a draft pick. Ooof.

PHINS 78,


IF FLACCO HAS TAUGHT US ANY THING ,
IS HYPE DOESN'T PAY ,LIKE THE CASE WITH MARINO....OR IN THE CASE OF TEBOW ..


FLACCO IS ALL BUSINESS ,LIKE TOM BRADY.


Wannstadt has accomplished a lot more the Philbin has.

Home @ 4:57, you're not allowed to post here. Go home

Bills defensive coordinatory Dave Wannstedt made his reputation as the defensive coordinator for the great Dallas Cowboys teams of the early '90s.

In the minds of some, he is still living off that reputation.

In an interview on WGR 550 Sportsradio, Yahoo! Sports Jason Cole says Wannstedt is "not a leader of men" and wonders whether he is fit for the job.

"Dave is probably one of the worst coaches I've seen who rose to that level. There are a lot of position coaches who are not very good who I've seen around this league, but they never get into positions of authority. Dave is very unimaginative, uninspiring guy."

"He was a great foil in Dallas for Jimmy Johnson, because Jimmy would come in and play the bad cop role, and then Dave would come in and be the nice guy ... but Dave has no ability to inspire people to play harder. I think he's a very unimaginative guy."

Mark you are dead wrong bubba. Wannstadt wanted Ogunleye. The Dolphins were too cheap to pay him....

I guess Bush, Long, and Starks are the 3 FA's we could afford to lose and not neccessarily have to replace them.

Although we're not certain that Martin, Vernon, and Miller will be upgrades, they are our back ups with the most upside.

Fasano, Smith, Clemmons, and Hartline will definatlely have to be replaced by someone not already on the roster.

I'm sure the Dolphins have a plan but it sure seems like waiting to see what market for some of these guys will be is risky business.

OK this ought to be funny.

What has Wannstedt accomplished, AtlFin. I'll wait while you look it up.....

That Ross is a cheap SOB.

I actually didn't mind Wannstedt when he was our HC. However, when you look back, it's clear that the team regressed under him and he did a poor job replacing the pieces. What was left behind was a mess we're still trying to recover from.

Out of touch out of towners = CLUELESS

ANOTHER PROVE THAT FIN FANS ARE UNEDUCATED ANR BEHIND THE WORLD WHEN IT COMES TO THINK THE FUTURE ,IS...

THEY R TALKING ABOUT ONE OF THE MOSTY FAILED COACHES OF ALL TIMES........


WANNSTEDT ..................TRAGDY .

You guys may have already mentioned it but Wannstedt is now the special teams coach for the Bucs.

Canadiens talking football? Hilarious!

"Wannstadt has accomplished a lot more the Philbin has."

Very, VERY true.

It is also right to point out that Philbin has been a head coach in the league for exactly one season and took over a VERY BAD team.

Where as Wanny had 9 years to post an 82-86 record. And also took over a very good Dolphins team.


PLEASE,BLOGGERS ,

PLEASE CHANGE THE CRAPPY SUBJECT OF WANNSTEDT .

Mark you are dead wrong bubba. Wannstadt wanted Ogunleye. The Dolphins were too cheap to pay him....

Shula 73 | February 04, 2013 at 05:15 PM

Not entirely true, the team was reeling from the Williams situation and had just the Summer before given JT a whopping 7 Yr./70 Mil. deal and felt they needed to address the money on O while adding someone opposite possession WR Chambers with, DRUM ROLL PLEASE! Another possession type WR and of course giving him the Ammo to replace Ricky with that pick trading for Lamar Gordon!

Both teams looked horrid last night. Last year's Fins could have beaten either team on a good day. We're not that far off.

It also seems to escape everybody that when we traded Ogunleye to Chicago given the JT Contract we had a VERY game David Bowens take his spot only to watch him walk to the Jets in 05 but that was understandable given Saban signed Kevin Carter.

When and if Philbin gets 95 NFL wins as a HC and wins a HC of the year honor.... then he will equal what Wanny has accomplished.

(( WE'RE NOT THAT FAR OFF ))'''''


WHO'S THE DONKEY WHO SAID THAT ?????

Aloco I agree to a certain extent. And I understand your annoyance with Marino. But you shouldn't use false facts. You say they are all business? Marino was all business when he played, the guy worked his tail off and even stayed later than everyone at practice just to sign autographs. He would also take a lot of the kids out on the field and toss the ball with them after camp days.

Say what you want about Marino. He cheated on his wife (along with 99% of athletes on the planet). Hell Ty Cobb spit on black people and once slapped a black man for saying hi to him but he's still in the hof. Babe Ruth slept with hookers in the home he shared with his wife.

He also was never on a team that won a Super Bowl. There are a lot of hall of fame athletes that never got a ring. A lot of athletes who in spite of their tremendous play, for one reason or another the team couldn't get it done.

But the guy is a hall of famer. The guy is in the record books and will be forever. The only reason qbs are now beating some of the records is because the game has turned into a pansy version of it's former self where receivers aren't allowed to be hit hard and qbs aren't allowed to be touched. If you think for one second that Marino wouldn't have done far better in today's game with the new rules you're lying to yourself.

Marino changed games, like Peyton. Only the great ones can accomplish what he accomplished.

But I'm sure he gives a crap what anyone thinks about him in a football blog.

Craig M | February 04, 2013 at 04:56 PM

Craig,

I will admit we were both wrong about that game last night, really felt the younger 49ers would eventually take it from the older Ravens but plays were left all over the field and while some say Kap was shell shocked early (and was) I felt one of the keys was how badly D.Wittner and D.Goldson played last night. Out of Pos. caught inside a ton and even got run over some on Tackles which for me was the most shocking.

PLEASE,BLOGGERS ,

PLEASE, THE CRAPPY WANNSTEDT .

Posted by: ALoco | February 04, 2013 at 05:23 PM

See, even ALoco knows Wanny was crap and he lives in Boston!

PHINS,

I LIKE DAN MARINO,I DIDN'T SAY ANY THING ABOUT CHEATING,I GO OUT WITH A MARRIED WOMAN RIGHT NOW.I SUPPORT MARINO ON THE CHEATING ISSUE ,IT'S A GREAT FEELING TO CHEAT..


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