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What must happen for the Dolphins to be Super Bowl good?

The NFL season ends today with the crowning of the Super Bowl 47 champion.

Tomorrow we begin a new season. As I write here many fans and even some teams will study the Ravens and 49ers to see if they can find clues or reasons both those teams are Super and everyone else, well, isn't.

So I gave you my opinion. What's your's?

What must happen for the Dolphins to become a Super Bowl team? No, I don't believe the distance between them and the playoffs is that great. Three or four more wins and the Dolphins are a playoff team. But a Super Bowl team?

That gulf is wide, in my opinion.

Still, can the Dolphins bridge that gap in a couple of years, as the 49ers went from 6-10 in 2010 to the NFC championship game in 2011 and the Super Bowl today?

What must happen for that to happen?

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oscar, he also forced shula out into the cow pasture.
lol

DC...it's the anticipation of a good off season that makes it long. Ireland knows he needs to make a big splash this off season and that makes it even more interesting for me. I want to see Tannehill get some weapons and be able to light up the scoreboard.

WE NEED 2 GREAT WRs AND A MUCH BETTER TE.

I HOPE FOR THE FIRST 3 PICKS TO BE WRs.

THIS DRAFT CLASS IS BETTER THAN THIS FA CLASS.

WE CAN GET EVERYTHING ELSE FROM FA.

PLEASE JEFF.

YOU CAN't BRING BACK THAT BUM HARTLINE.

Dolphins won Super Bowl...what...40 years ago?

They are three to five years from an AFC Championship game, counting new coaches new management and more players, which will have to happen before this franchise turns around.

Wait for new owner.

JEFF:

ONE MORE THING.

IF YOU GET WALLACE OR JENNINGS.

DON't THINK IT's OVER.

THAT's THE MISTAKE YOU DID WITH MARSHALL.

HE HAD NOBODY TO HELP HIM.

WE NEED AN UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF WEAPONS.


I recall Shula didn't want to make coaching changes as part of the reason he retired. So I wouldn't say he was forced out to pasture but they didn't stop him either with JJ campaigning for the job.

Thinking about your commentary, low intensity, it might be all true.

Hang on DC @ 8:24. There's better days ahead.

Forced Shula?? Somebody needed to. It was over for him. The fact that he had five years to figure out a way to beat Buffalo and couldn't do it once when it mattered was enough info. never would've happened to young Shula.

We want no beaver-banging, immoral, low Class element around here! Less if they are dumb as hell.

I agree...The PHins have to have 3 WR's, 1 TE and a RB if they let Bush walk which I think they should. I'm ok with Hartline coming back with him being the cheapest of FA's on the market. Jennings and Wallace are going to be expensive.

bh = 1 td.

wallace = 8 9 10 td's.
hmmmmmm?
how do u win games in the nfl again?
lol

IT'S THE QB STUPID.

but bh would probably have 8 9 10 td's with lux tho.
lol

home, is that u?
lol

Ireland knows exactly the Players that this Team needs. Now, can he get them all here? This Year? Very little room for mistakes.

Shula's mistake was sticking with Marino after he saw he was a choker.

And Gregg, how do your career accomplishments compare to those of Dan Marino?

gotta agree with Gregg on that one...Marino was a 'yeller' and was easily frustrated when things started going wrong.
One trip to the SB is not that impressive when you look back at what others have accomplished like Brady, Aikman, Favre, Mannings, Bradshaw, Kelly etc...

Yeah, Favre and Peyton made one more Super Bowl each in an era where you had a different team winning every year - they clearly laid out the map on how it should be done.

Mark, I'm a much better person then that white trash cheater.

I don't know when it became fashionable to start crapping on Dan Marino but you can count me out. he's the reason I love this team and watch the sport. Just because his team's never won the super bowl, it won't diminish what he added to my enjoyment of the game. I never had more fun watching the Dolphins and watching the NFL than when Dan played. And I know this is conjecture but if he played today - he would set the bar on how to toss the rock.

Well Gregg, he's not really white per se. European (Italian) background - more latin than anglo saxon.

Mark, Gregg is playing you, trying to get a rise out of you. You said it, Marino is the most all-time beloved Dolphin. Nothing more really needs to be said on that topic.

Marino was no choker. No true Competitior is. On the contrary, the more the pressure the better they perform. We THRIVE on adversity.

Which it is a danger also.

Former Dolphins nose tackle Brian Sochia was a Hermaphrodite, born wit both male and female genitalia.

It is most probable, that due to certain reasons, Shula softened his ways in the Football Field during his last Coaching years. He has lived longer, but not as full as before. Your pick.

Something I just read. Had no idea he was slipping in scouts eyes...
I'm getting ahead of myself, but maybe..juuuust maybe a real star once again on D?

http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftrumormill.php#jarvisjonesfall

Thoughts?

My pick: You mantain Your Self in whatever you have started, until it's finished.

I often saw Marino run out of bounds after an INT instead of going after the defender just like a sissy. He played touch football.

JS, I've read about Jones slipping to due to health concerns. Some spinal issue or something I heard in passing???

Saw the same thing happen a couple of years ago to that guy Tampa drafted in the second round that at one time was touted as the #1 pick over Cam Newton. had to look it up ... Da'Quan Bowers.

If the injury is as debilitating, Bowers has only managed 4.5 sacks in two years ....

Read something pretty weird about Tom Coughlin recently. Apparently, he's EXTREMELY well-endowed and likes strutting around the locker room showing off his junk to players and reporters--trying to get them to comment on it, etc.

So bizarre but apparently a lot of eople have seen him do this repeatedly. What a weirdo.

What good would be getting a top WR without a top QB? Didnt we learn anything from the Marshall- Henne disaster?

Mark, yeah it was a serious condition for sure. So much so that he wasn't supposed to be able to ever play football again. And he's dominated the SEC in the 2 years following the recovery.
I agree with the columnist that folks are overthinking the room.
Every single player regardless of previous health can get seriously injured at any time in their NFL career. This guy plays against NFL talent in the SEC and still dominates, and hasn't been injured in those 2 years.
I don't see a risk taking the top rated defensive player in the draft in your mid 1st round at all.
... Gotta have some balls to get a star like that at pick #12.

I've heard the same thing about Coughlin, actually going back a few years. So bizarre.

I think we need to bring in another QB. Tannehill didnt show any of the signs of being elite IMO.

orlando, I'm not sold yet on Tanny either, but who is out there that you feel is star caliber at QB?
I only see one guy, and that's Barkley, and Yes I'd love to have him on my team. But....
Are we going to keep drafting QB's until one pans out rookie year? Hard to sell.
Even without being a Taqnny fan, I'd assume it would be at least year two before we have our real answer whether he's the future or not.
If Barkley is hanging around 4th round, then ...yeah, I'd probably pull the trigger. But Holy Cow we need SOooo much that I'd be hesitant to draft the position that we "supposedly" nailed last draft with high round picks that we desperately need this year.

JS, I'm with you. If the injury concerns are not degenerative then jump all over him at #12. Buffalo did the same with McGahee at #23 and it worked well until they mismanaged the situation. U get a #1 talent at #12. ROLL the FRIGGIN DICE!!

What were the "signs of being elite" you were looking for, specifically?

ORLANDO:

WHAT's GOOD OF A TOP QB WITHOUT PLYMAKERS?

ALL HE DOES IS THROW THE BALL.

WOULDN't BE NICE TO SEE A 5 YARD PASS TURN INTO A 60 YARD TD.

ALL HARTLINE AND BESS DO IS CATCH THE BALL AND GO DOWN.

THAT's THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WINNING AND LOSING

Yeah, bringing in another high pick QB so soon is wasteful. Not like he's really going to get the chance yet. Another year before we do it again ... minimum.

PLUS THAT MARSHALL-HENNE THING WAS MORE OF NO OTHER PLAYMAKERS THEN MARSHALL.

THE D CAN FOUCUS ON HIM AND NOBODY ELSE.

WE DON't NEED 1 WR PLAYMAKER WE NEED 4

ALEX SMITH WAS A BUM UNTIL HE GOT MORE WEAPONS.

ADD A DAVIS A CRABTREE MOSS AND YOU GO TO THE SUPERBOWL.

JS, I would kill to have Jarvis Jones on the Fin's!! I live in Atlanta with my wife, who is a huge Bulldog's fan, and have seen this guy dominate. I'm not even a fan of UGA, but tuned in every Saturday to see Jones and their RB Gurly (who is a freshman that lit up the big bad defenses of the SEC)play at an NFL level.

If we even sniff a chance at getting Jones,we better pull the trigger.He would be the first jersey I get with the new logo.

GIANTS=AT LEAST 3 PLAYMAKERS.
PACKERS=AT LEAST 3 PLAYMAKERS.
RAVENS=AT LEAST 3 PLAYMAKERS.
DOLPHINS=MARSHALL.

OR THIS YEAR.

BUSH.

LOL YEAH IT's THE QB

DuH

Absolutely do agree that QB is the #1 building block. Without a top tier QB, your franchise is nowhere.
That said, we "supposedly" got one last draft. "Supposedly". So I think I'll have to have faith one more year that we did in actuality "nail" it, and Tannehill is our cornerstone. But I'm not a sheep, and I don't have blind faith. I need to see what is expected of him this year, and not just flashes.
But I just don't want to waste draft picks on a pool of rookie QBs and hope one of them works out. Draft the guy you have researched and really want.. and then give him the support he needs.
The if that fails, get rid of him.
Something the Jets haven't managed to do, and they are floundering.

oscar, no mo 3 adays from the 70's,
that's when the team got fat stupid lazy and choked,
marino never had 2 work out,
the team was pixxed,
and it showed when the games were win u'r in.

DC and Mark....

Gregg is exercising his right to free speech...and HIS opinion.....I don't think he is trying to get a rise out of anybody....I think Gregg has realized what the two of you (and many others) will come to realize later in life....perhaps after we have a QB that can lead us to two SB wins in 5 years....or 2 different QBs win SBs in 7 years....

You guys will then realize that Marino WAS....and I say again...WAS the greatest statistical QB in NFL history....but now MOST of his records have been surpassed.....and ANY MEANINGFUL record Marino held now has somebody ele's name @ the top of the list.....

Marino's time has come and gone....unbiased history is the true judge of Marino's career...NOT a bunch of BLATANTLY BIASED HOMER'S on a DOLPHINS in depth football blog (myself included)....

Marin game in 25 (or so).......on the leagues top 100 all time.....thats about right.....he's in the top quarter of the league.....but when we mention the ELITE of the ELITE.....like we like to do often times with today's QBs.....Marino fall into that next tier.....

marino would be bottom 3rd in 2days nfl.
lol

Marino DOES come in @ # 25 on the top 100 list.....

He is also the 9th best QB according to the list......

unbiased historians.....

Kris, I never said marino was the most accomplished QB ever, just my favourite player. I mean, he could've done nothing more than what he did in his career. I don't think he left anyone wanting any more. Things just didn't break his way team wise. Shite happens. But you find me here trying to tear down his career. he was truly a trendsetter and ahead of his time. I feel privileged to have watched it.

But another story is when people call him a choker. People who haven't accomplished jack shite in their lives. It's like watching a 400lbs fat guy pick apart the physique of a finalist for Mr. Olympia. Do something ... anything of note in your life before starting to tear apart the accomplishments of others was my messge to Gregg and others tearing down #13.

I don't normally care about this stuff, but apparently I'm chatty today.
I watched almost every snap Marino ever took, and I can honestly say I've never seen anybody play the position better. Plenty of equals, but he doesn't slip in any catagory to me. FOrget the statitsics, or superbowls, or whatever you wish to attribute to his legacy numerically, his impact on a game was as much and significant as anyone who's ever been called a great QB. Opposing defensives had to gameplan plan hard for him, or else he'd beat you. Even when you did gameplan him, he tended to beat you. One on one match ups - he won. Zone? - he found the holes. Last minute comebacks? When the game was on the line, his teammates, the fans, and the opposing team knew he had a legitimate shot to win it. And he more often than not did. Players, coaches and teammates all knew how significant he was, and he proved it every game, until he physically was unable to compete. SHould he ever have gotten a true running game, or more talent around him in general, then we'd have seen a few more superbowl runs.
Think of him what you like, but he's the only player I have a jersey of, and will remain so until we have a new legitimate star.
He's not a hero, I don't worhip sports figures. But he's the best Dolphin player I've ever watched. So that's about all I can say.

LIke Coughlin, I am extremely well hung & I love strutting my junk in front of the fellas in the locker room.

If you've got it, flaunt it. Taint nuttin wrong wid dat!

Apparently People read whatever they want to read. Shula never said Marino was the greatest QB he had been associated with. What he said was, "Dan Marino is the greatest downfield passer I've ever been associated with". And Shula also had John Unitas. Any argument on that one?

I don't so much flaunt it than put it in some Hole.

And that Indian girl exclaimed, Oscar, I didn't know, I didn't know!

JS and Mark....

I appreciated every moment of Marino's career....except for maybe the last 2...when it seemed he was good for a pick just about once a game.....

but now that I have had a chance to look @ his career as a whole...and not just a highlight film...i realize Marino did NOT do everything he could have done to win a SB...imo.....

under Shula he never worked out to his full potential....and he left a lot of reps in the gym and a lot of sprints on the field that may have served him during the stretches of games.....If Marino is dogging it in practice...then how can he get on the 10th man on the roster...how can he push the 23rd man...or the 53....how can the coach hold up his STAR QBs work ethic as an example for others to follow....this stuff ripples folks.....

I went to a Ravens practice last training camp.....RAY LEWIS for the 1ST MAN in EVERY drill...in his 17th season....he was leading from the FRONT.....and EVERYBODY had to follow.....thats why players...ALPHA DOGS ar saying they wanted to play FOR HIM....WIN for HIM.....he was a living example in practice....that gave him CREDIBILITY on Sundays.....ultimately.....his work ethic has resulted in 2 SBs....and a career that will be made a TV movie someday....

coincidentally....Ray Lewis was # 18 on the list....there was ONLY 2 LBs ahead of Lewis on the list...Lawrence Taylor...and Dick Butkus.....pretty good names...huh.....

Marino also fought Jimmy Johnson tooth and nail....again...bad for the team...and team chemistry.....and another reason he wasn't doing EVERYTHING possible to bring a championship to Miami....

...Kris. I agree with you 100 percent. I would say that as a passer of the football. Marino may be the best of all time. Considering the era, the rules. What he did compaired to the other passers of his time. But as far as quartebacks go. Even in his own era he isn't the best. Of all time quarterbacks, no way.

This may upset some people. And of course this is a subjective debate. We will hear all the same points that Marino didn't have a running game, the defense wasn't always perfect. He didn't have the teams other greats had. Also, the kicker for me is the lamest of the arguments that if you put him on another team he would have won. First off, nobody knows this. It is the ultimate what if. We don't know how Marinos huge ego would have meshed, or clashed in another system. How much of this played into the way the Phins built the team during his time?

I'm not taking anything away from Dan Marino. He is one of best in the history of the game. But when the question who is the best of all time? Marinos name is not the first one that pops into my head.

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