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What must happen for the Dolphins to be Super Bowl good?

The NFL season ends today with the crowning of the Super Bowl 47 champion.

Tomorrow we begin a new season. As I write here many fans and even some teams will study the Ravens and 49ers to see if they can find clues or reasons both those teams are Super and everyone else, well, isn't.

So I gave you my opinion. What's your's?

What must happen for the Dolphins to become a Super Bowl team? No, I don't believe the distance between them and the playoffs is that great. Three or four more wins and the Dolphins are a playoff team. But a Super Bowl team?

That gulf is wide, in my opinion.

Still, can the Dolphins bridge that gap in a couple of years, as the 49ers went from 6-10 in 2010 to the NFC championship game in 2011 and the Super Bowl today?

What must happen for that to happen?

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M.I.T, 1st pick is hard to swallow, or maybe our 2 2nds? I think Cruz is a versatile receiver and would fit into our offense a little better...

I don't understand this word 'elite' either. Not sure who made it up but I'm uncomfortable with it. Flacco and his team won the Super Bowl yesterday. He deserves all the accolades that come with it. Thjis 'elite' crap means nothing to me. I think it means different things to different people. He's a good QB with a championship ring. After that, I have no idea.

Craig,

I couldn't agree more when it comes to Flacco.

The media has created this term 'ELITE QB' b/c they have been selling the fans the idea that you MUST have an ELITE QB to win a SB which is bullsh#t. Tom Brady was not an ELITE QB before or directly after he won his first SB. He played well that season & he had a great team. Since then Brady has proved--by continuing to raise his level of play--that he wasn't just a guy who got hot at the right time & that he's ELITE.

Flacco just so happened to be drafted at the right time by a good team with an excellent GM. Would Flacco be an ELITE QB if he were the Jaguars or the Browns or us for that matter??? No f#cking way. You put Flacco in our offense & how many more wins would he have given us??? Maybe two??? Maybe we would have finished 9-7 last year??? Still not a playoff team. If a QB is truly elite then he should be able to win with teams that aren't so great like Peyton Manning & Marino had to do most of their careers.

IMO--The next QB that I believe will become ELITE is Luck. When you go 11-5 with a team that totally sucked the year before with an O-line that was not very good, not a great running game, & a pretty bad defense then you're a special player. Flacco is a good QB but special??? Elite??? Not yet if ever. Andrew Luck??? If he continues to improve--look out b/c he's the real deal.

No, not a first round for Cruz. We don't have Eli manning throwing to him, we have Ryan Tannehill. He's great but I'd rather offer a 2nd and 3rd. If Marshall goes for 2 3rds Cruz has to go for (at least) slightly less

mARK IN tORONTO, There is Jimmy in the clouds waving his pixie wand and extending his hand downward to Earth offering Burt's Bees lip balm to all. I want you to think about five parrots and Bea Arthur today.

..Delani Walker is going to be a bigger factor then Vernon Davis. Boy I nailed that one??? I am as hung over as I have been in a while. I barely remember the game after the power outage. I did win a nice sized wager last night. The most I have ever bet on a gamme in my life..Feels better then my head this morning!

Daryl,

I'd make an offer to Delanie Walker that he couldn't refuse. The Niners are paying him about $1.5 Million a year. I'd double that to get him to Miami. We need players like that who bring it!!! Love the physicality he brings to the game.

I'd also call Cary Williams' agent & say how much man??? Sean Smith couldn't shine this guys's shoes.

For the Dolphins to catch up they need to:

1. Solidify the oline.

2. Add a tackle breaking rotational back to go with Miller should they choose not to resign Bush.

3. The wr corps needs a "HUGE" overhual. Basically both Bess an Hartline need to go. You need "mismatches' playing in sb championship games. I dont see Bess nor Hartline as tis going into a championship game.

4. TE. You may not consider Pitta and Dickson as pro bowl TE's alone. But as a tandem, they are absolutely huge.

5. Defense. Not a whole lot wrong with our defense, but they do need to find a way to get many more turnovers. Even if it means bringing in 1-2 more players to accomplish this.

It finally dawnd on me yesterday that none of this stuff means a damn thing. That it's all just a moronic GAME that the vast majority of the planet could care less about.

I can't believe how many years I wasted actually worrying about this garbage as if it actually mattered.

Jesus. It feels like I've been released from bondage and can actually live as a sentient, thinking human being who understands what truly is and isn't important.

And football sure as hell isn't important!

You guys are so caught up in "ELITE QB". Yes, it greatly helps, but if you noticed Sunday, all of the rlite qb's sat at home and watched to "NON_ELITE" qb's with "great weapons" shot it out for the nfl's greatest prize.

Elite qb refers to the top 5 qb's in the league. So it means very little when only 2 qb's can play for the sb. Oh, yeah, Joe Flacco beat 2 elite qb's(Manning/Brady) to get here. 3 if you want to count "Andrew Luck".

Proving very good can trump elite when that very good qb has a helluva oline and very good weapons.

MiamiD20,

Cruz isn't going anywhere. Trust me on this one. I live in Manhattan & the kid is LOVED here. Not sure how well you know his story but he's a local kid from a rough part of NJ (Patterson which is real sh#t hole) & he's really a GREAT kid & a heck of a talent. Assuming the Giants don't give him a new contract--which I think they will--they'll certainly match ANY offer that another team will make.

It finally dawnd on me yesterday that none of this stuff means a damn thing. That it's all just a moronic GAME that the vast majority of the planet could care less about.

I can't believe how many years I wasted actually worrying about this garbage as if it actually mattered.

Jesus. It feels like I've been released from bondage and can actually live as a sentient, thinking human being who understands what truly is and isn't important.

And football sure as hell isn't important!

Light,

Good. Then go away & don't come back.

Yogurt, I love parrots. Partial to the African Grey myself. I will think of parrots. But in no way shape or form will I spend much time thinking about Bea Arthur.

So the NFL is obviously desperate to make more money by now drawing more women into watching the game.

A. Stupid rules preventing hard hits. B. Commercials with naked men doing stretches. C. All woman half time show including dancers, musicians, and the crowd at the stage front. D. More than one commercial depicting a father as a complete imbecile including one where the Father is so stupid his daughter has a fantasy that he's dead and the genie degrades him as he runs laps behind their car with a dog dressed in purple.

I miss old time football when the most feminine thing was Namath wearing stockings.

WNP, 12:48, agreed on both (and I actually like Sean Smith but still - for an extra $2M - I take the playmaker)

Football isn't important, agreed, but like most men watching I enjoy the latent homerotic psychosexual feelings it releases fos us in a socially acceptable way.

WNP, when I was in Jersey for the Steeler/Giant game - I was overwhelmed with the love for Cruz when mingling with the locals. There was a point in that game where Cruz got dinged up and several people went into a state of panic. Yeah, I agree, he's a centrepiece for that team. Not going anywhere. They may play hardball - but when push comes to shove, they will pay him.

I would offer the Giants our first 2nd round pick for Victor Cruz. I'm 95% sure they would tell me to take a flying leap, but a man can dream.

Phins, not to mention a Keap pre game segment when he's shirtless for the entire thing. Like I give a fack what he has tattoed on his upper body. I guess that was CBS cashing in their chips on Marino to get him to do that stupid bit.

Playmakers, I live 30min outside of NYC and 15min from Paterson (I have connections to prostitues and drugs if I ever need them lol - I know people and have friends in every surrounding town: Clifton, Wayne, Haledon) Cruz is a huge NJ/NYC guy and is beloved by everyone here. My family is full of Giants fans and two of them have Cruz jerseys. I agree he isn't going anywhere they're just playing hardball right now.

But for the sake of arguing I'd say Cruz would cost a 2nd and 3rd, but I'm not getting any hopes up for him I'm certain he's a Giant for a long time

Football isn't important, agreed, but like most men watching I enjoy the latent homerotic psychosexual feelings it releases fos us in a socially acceptable way.

Ted,

I hate to burst your bubble but watching sports has nothing to do with being gay or not. You're gay b/c you're attracted to men instead of women. Not that there's anything wrong with that...Good for you!!!

I think YG'S point is valid. The problem is too many people watch football now which has dropped the football intelligence curve considerably.

I constantly debate posts that give all of the credit for a win to one player, or all of the blame for a loss to a player or coach. It's ridiculously ignorant to ignore the multitude of factors that play into a win or loss.

Elite QBs, like pointed out, all sitting home. BECAUSE,,,,,their TEAM didn't do enough to win those games. It's a team sport more than any sport in the country. You win and lose as a team.

A well put together team can win a Super Bowl without said "elite" QB IMO.

I wouldn't give up any of our first three picks for a player that has a reasonable facsimilie available in free agency. In this case I'd just give the same money to Mike Wallace. Similar enough player, same salary outflow and keep your pick to select a starter at another position of need.

post at 1:12,,,,,LMAO!

WNP, 12:48, agreed on both (and I actually like Sean Smith but still - for an extra $2M - I take the playmaker)

Mark,

Come on...If Smith gets $7 Million a year (which he won't) then Cary Williams is worth $14 Million. We need a physical CB on our defense in the worst way possible.

Oh, I sleep with ladies but am just more honest about what's really going on than you allow yourself to be. That's ok.

Anyway, yeah, obsessing about young guys wearing tight pants and grappling with each other is TOTALLY macho, lol. Riiight.

Has a women ever actually told you how "gay" they find our addiction to football to be? Because they do.

Football isn't important, agreed, but like most men watching I enjoy the latent homerotic psychosexual feelings it releases fos us in a socially acceptable way.

Posted by: ted |

Priceless, can't stop laughing.

If Hartline is expected to get the same amount of money as Boldin for 2013,I say goodbye Brian and hello Anquan. Wallace,Boldin,Patterson,and Bess. That would be a MONSTER WR corp!!

Meh. So a lot of football fans are closet queens. Who didn't know that?

Not exactly breaking news, dude.

Didn't see that Mark but it's pretty funny. It's so obvious what they're doing.

Hey they're a business and they sell one of the top products in our country for a reason. They know how to market.

I just like them to know ,,that I KNOW, what they're doing. So many sheep in this country don't even see these things. And many will argue I'm wrong without giving any examples as to why.

Were screwed.....
Posted by: Kris | February 04, 2013 at 11:55 AM
lol

I suppose next you'll be telling everyone that the WNBA has a bunch of lesbian fans, too.

Who knew?!?

Ummmmmm dude, I don't know what you're watching football for but I watch for the game. The chess match, the hard hitting, the incredible catches, the huge runs, the kick returns for tds, the record breaking moments, etc. I could go on and on because there are so many reasons to watch football.

Like your reason. What did you say? You obsess with young men in tight pants grappling each other?

To each his own. ;)

WNP, I agree. I think one of the keys to beating the pats is to find CBs who are physical, press the LOS, and don't allow Brady to execute those four yard slipscreen passes that turn into 8 yard gains all day. Smith is too timid against the Welkers of the world. Cary Williams just kept punching the Pat wrs in the face all day. Sure they got yardage but he sure did put sugar in their gas tank and got them out of their comfort zone. If we find guys that play like Cary Williams or Cortland Finnegan - we would surely increase our chances. But if SS is asking for $7M, Cary was reportedly askign for $9M - I give SS the golden handshake and put Williams' signature on the contract ASAP. Even with the Ray Lewis cap relief, the Ravens will lose someone - raid that team!

Also don't be surprised if Terrell Suggs becomes a cap casualty. Don't know what the cap ramifications are but it's so clear that at this point Paul Kruger is a much better player and to lose him to keep Suggs doesn't sound very smart.

I LIVE IN PENNSYLVANIA.

"Playmakers, I live 30min outside of NYC and 15min from Paterson (I have connections to prostitues and drugs if I ever need them lol - I know people and have friends in every surrounding town: Clifton, Wayne, Haledon) Cruz is a huge NJ/NYC guy and is beloved by everyone here. My family is full of Giants fans and two of them have Cruz jerseys. I agree he isn't going anywhere they're just playing hardball right now.

But for the sake of arguing I'd say Cruz would cost a 2nd and 3rd, but I'm not getting any hopes up for him I'm certain he's a Giant for a long time"


LOL@MD20!!! Patterson is no joke!!! I worked in NJ for over seven years & that was the ONE area that I had major concerns whenever I had to drive through there.

I'm probably in the minority here but I believe that Cruz is DEFINITELY worth a first round pick. Not only is he a playmaker but he's a great kid off the field. The draft is a crap shoot & Cruz has proven that he's more than just a one year wonder. Yes he has Eli throwing him the ball but what makes him special is that he's slippery & tough to bring down.

BTW--What town do you live in?

Posted by: JOHN | February 04, 2013 at 01:31 PM

lol

The women who think it's "gay" do so because when they turn the game on they immediately start checking the guys out and can't understand that we can watch sports without lusting after penis.

They don't have a mans mentality therefore are clueless to why we watch. They don't understand so they make fun. HEY, just like some of the people in here!

I totally agree, Mark. It was fantastic for Baltimore to have won the SB, but everyone in that locker room's pricetag have just gone up. Deserving or not. Raid the Ravens and 9'er's rosters.

he's ghey?

WNP, when I was in Jersey for the Steeler/Giant game - I was overwhelmed with the love for Cruz when mingling with the locals. There was a point in that game where Cruz got dinged up and several people went into a state of panic. Yeah, I agree, he's a centrepiece for that team. Not going anywhere. They may play hardball - but when push comes to shove, they will pay him.

He's a special kid. I watched one of those ESPN specials about him & the amount of adversity he had to overcome in his life was ridiculous. There's no 'punk' or 'thug' in this kid.

Rage that's why I'm so surprised that the media still write stories about dynasty's. It just doesn't seem likely with the high salaries of top players that you can sustain dominance for more than three or four years.

obamas black?

And those three or four years seem to be playoff years, one Super Bowl win if you're lucky. Dynasty's to me were the teams who win a few Super Bowls in a row. Not teams that simply make the playoffs every year.

If that's the current definition of a dynasty then they need to come up with a new name for the Dolphins, Steelers, Cowboys, and 49ers of old.

what do u call a 6-10 7-9 7-9 7-9 team.?
lol

WNP I would give a 1st for Cruz in a heart beat. If we spent the first on a WR he isn't going to be nearly as good as Cruz. I just don't see any kind of trade like that happening.

What is the basis of this topic? Is this a hypothetical you guys were talking about?

Phins78, you're right. Especially with the new CBA, teams HAVE to spend 90% of their cap space, no matter what. This leaves perenial cheap skate teams (CLE,CIN,ARI)having to spend the dough that they would usually sit on.

cheap ross?
lol

...WNP..Yeah, I really like Walker too. I had made a "prediciton" that he would outplay Davis Sunday. Just aknowledging that I missed that one. Walker did some nice things though. He just wasn't as involved in the pass game as I though he would be. Good all around player though.

Phins, not to mention a Keap pre game segment when he's shirtless for the entire thing. Like I give a fack what he has tattoed on his upper body. I guess that was CBS cashing in their chips on Marino to get him to do that stupid bit.

Mark,

Totally forgot about that....The strangest thing is that I woke up with verses from the Bible all over my body & I had like five empty cans of GNC's power drinks & a video of how how to get washboard abs in 30 days.

BTW--Go Navy, Army, Airforce, & the Marines!!!

I think someone said the Giants were putting a priority on Nicks instead of Cruz.

2 Watt, you should take your act on the road, might be a big hit. You can stand up on stage and say things like,

"boy the Dolphins really suck".

cough, cough

"Really folks, Tannehill equals Henne".

Ahem, cough, glass breaks.

"What do you call a 7-9 team?"

WHAT?

"No seriously, I'm asking you"

You suck! Get off the stage!

"Wait, wait, I have a good one!,,,,"CHEAP ROSS"! "Right folks? (CRICKETS CHIRP IN THE BACKGROUND) Come ON, this is comedy gold!"

WNP,

Exactly why this will stay an average ate best franchise. Giving away #1 draft picks for other teams talent. The guys wasnt even drafted for goodness sake. Giving the Giants a 1st rd pick for him is win-win all around for them.

Yes, I admit he's very good. But if we spent our own 1st rd pick to draft a wr. At least we get a very good wr, at pennies on the dollar for what it takes to sign Cruz, let alone giveaway a 1st rd pick for him. Plus the drafted wr, we probably get at least 4 more years out of him than what we would get from Cruz,whose entering his 4th-5th season.

Cruz is at best a 7-10 td a year wr, he had 10 this year alone. But you have to remember he also had "HAKEEM NICKS" to help take some of the pressure off of him. Last I checked we have nothing in the same universe on our wr corps remotely in comparison to Hakeem Nicks.

With this alone you can take away at least 2 tds a year fron Cruz if you brouht him to Miami. And it only costs a #1 draft picks and at least 50- 55 million to make that happem.

78, go to 7-11 and pix ^ some chlorine + ammonia,
mix it up in a hall closet and shut the door behind u.
lmao

"Yes, I admit he's very good. But if we spent our own 1st rd pick to draft a wr. At least we get a very good wr,".

YG this is where our opinions differ. I don't believe there is a better wr in the draft. I just don't like this class and don't have a lot of faith in their ability. Each one seems to be good at one or two things but lack in other areas.

I'll say this now and lets see if it comes true in a couple of years. The best WR from the 2013 draft will be found in rounds 3 through 7. There will be a player who no one talks about that becomes that guy. Just a feeling, I could be dead wrong but lets see how it plays out.

And for the record I'm still a HUGE advocate for spending our first round pick on a CB,S,DE, or LB. Preferably CB.

Guys,

I'm chiming in on the cruz for a first conversation. Great player....no question. But when it comes to gving up picks for players and then spending $8-12 mil on them, it just doesn't make any sense. We did this with Marshall, we did this with Ricky Williams. It didn't make us any better.

Let's stop taking the wasy way all the time. Let's do it the way Ozzie Newsome would rather than the easy, lazy way. It's never worked for us. Even giving money to a guy like Wallace in Fa is a better answer than this.


I think someone said the Giants were putting a priority on Nicks instead of Cruz.

Posted by: Rage | February 04, 2013 at 01:47 PM

Yeah, unlike some of our posters in here, the Giants realize that Cruz may be the beniciary of attention paid to Nicks. Not vice versa.

You bring Cruz to Miami for a 1st rd pick, you still need to add another very good wr. People, regardless of what your visions of fallacy may lead you to believe. A wr corps of Cruz, Hartline, and Bess are not going to get it.

Cruz is a #2 wr, so is Hartline at best. So we would then have 2 #2 wr's and Bess. Yet we paid in exess of $50 million dollars, not to mention what resigning Hartline costs, and we still wouldnt be "quite" good enough as a wr corps.

Dream on! LOL...

I understand the need for offensive play makers but I don't think one will be there with value for us at #12

"..WNP..Yeah, I really like Walker too. I had made a "prediciton" that he would outplay Davis Sunday. Just aknowledging that I missed that one. Walker did some nice things though. He just wasn't as involved in the pass game as I though he would be. Good all around player though."

Daryl,

I thought they'd use Walker in the passing game more as well. Some of the blocks he made last night were unbelievable & he had tackle on special teams was perfect. The guy is battering ram. Bruce Miller is a damn good blocker as well.

I find it odd that we drafted Clay as a FB/TE considering I can't recall one significant block he has made in two seasons.

Craig that's a good point. I didn't even think of the salary ramifications. It's a moot point anyway, I don't think there's a chance in hell the Giants part with Cruz. The fans would revolt up here, that guy is becoming an icon in NY.

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