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Dolphins open some draft possibilities, close others

Practically every day, someone who follows me on my twitter feed asks me what the Dolphins are going to do in the first round of the draft even though the draft is one month away.

Last week, I said the Dolphins were heavily interested in Florida State cornerback Xavier Rhodes.

I jumped the gun.

Rhodes is a fine player. He looks the part at 6-1. He plays with some nastiness. And the Dolphins do indeed like him. But that has to be measured in degrees and I was told recently that he probably isn't the guy in the first round because he's not a 100 percent system fit for the Dolphins.

Me: :-(

Rhodes needs to be in a system where he's getting his hands on a receiver. He might be able to learn the discipline of combo coverages that inlcude a lot of zone work and playing quarters. But that's not his game. He's more a press corner, folks.

So there's that.

I also said early on in the process that I would scream if the Dolphins used their first overall pick on an offensive or defensive lineman. Since general manager Jeff Ireland arrived with Bill Parcells, the Dolphins have tried to upgrade those two units in the first round three out of five drafts -- with Jake Long, Mike Pouncey and Jared Odrick as first-round picks.

Well, guess what?

The Dolphins are open to upgrading those two spots in the draft again -- perhaps even in the first round. Ireland wants to sorely keep the defensive line, a team strength, very strong. Two days ago, I reported to you the club has parted ways with Tony McDaniel. Well, the Dolphins want to add a defensive tackle. And, as you know, a pass-rusher is something the Dolphins continue to consider in free agency and will consider in the draft.

And this is supposedly a great year for defensive ends. So that is a serious possibility.

The Dolphins also will look at offensive line, particularly offensive tackle. Indeed, even if the team signs Eric Winston to play right tackle, I don't believe the club sees him as a long-term solution. Even if the left tackle job is handed to Jonathan Martin, the Dolphins want a fallback.

Well, drafting a left tackle and moving Martin back to right tackle is a possibility.

I've mentioned Oklahoma's Lane Johnson on twitter as a possible first-round selection. The Dolphins like him. They don't love him. Yes, they agree he's a first-round talent but what I'm hearing is not at No. 12 in Miami's eyes.

So where does that leave the Dolphins in the first round? Well, that's the point. The Dolphins have worked this offseason with the idea of filling in as many gaps on the team as possible. No the cornerback spot is not filled, but I believe the club will get serious in the next day or so about trying to sign Brent Grimes or some cornerback option so that cornerback is no longer a glowing, ominous and obvious need.

Basically, the Dolphins want to go to the draft with a wide field of possibilities. They want to draft the best available player (BAP) and not draft necessarily for need. The club drafted for need in 2009 when Vontae Davis and Sean Smith were added in the first two rounds. Neither are on the team four years later.

Lesson learned, I think."

"I don’t know that we’re complete at any position," coach Joe Philbin said this week. "I think hopefully what’s happened with some of the free agency moves is it gives Jeff more latitude to just go find good football players.

"We’re as interested in adding, again that term, it’s a vague term, but good football players to the roster at a variety of positions. I don’t know that we’re locked and loaded anywhere. That’s not a bad thing. I don’t know that many of the other 15 [coaches] that are in the room today are locked and loaded at a ton of spots. We’ve got to add good players at every position."

Yes, I'd say every position except quarterback, linebacker, punter and kicker is a first-round option for the Dolphins.

The offensive line is an option, as I've explained. Defensive line is an option. Cornerback, but not Rhodes, is an option. Safety is an option. Running back, following the loss of Reggie Bush is an outside and long-odds options I suppose. Receiver pops back into the picture as an option. And tight end is an option -- although I do not see a tight end in the draft worthy of the No. 12 overall selection.

The Dolphins have opened the field for themselves. Smart.

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Orlando if they are all in on Austin make them think we'll take him at 12 but we are open to a trade down. Pry both those first rounders out of them.

no chance dark

QB talk starting to pick up like it always does. I wouldn't mind seeing Nassib keep climbing up the board.

Lots of teams above us need qb's. Could increase the chances of Millner, Fisher, or Ansah dropping to us.

Your right dust in that trade downs are really tough. I was just thinking of a dream scenario for the purpose of this blog. We probably won't trade out of the # 12 pick. However, I would not take a corner with this pick. You want to find a true star with this pick and the only ones I see here are Ezekiel Ansah, Lane Johnson, Chance Warmack, and Jonathen Cooper. These guys will dominate in the NFL at their position.

Dusty I kind of disagree, Getting rid of Sean Smith had to happen, The guy had worse hands then Ted Ginn.


I always have admired how teams like the Patriots are able to enter the draft and FA with a wide range of options, signing and drafting this way has always been the smart way to go,

I can't describe my excitement for this next season as at last it seems my Dolphins seem to know exactly what they're doing.


Go. Dolphins !!!!!!!!!!

In my Opinion, I think we should trade back. Trading back will still land us a later 1st round pick and then 3 second round picks vs 2 picks. There is plenty of talent and value in the 2nd round so trading back to get the extra pick will be the best thing to do at No. 12. It's too high for a CB, TE, or WR. But if we do keep it, the pick will be an O-lineman. Love the direction this team is going... Go Phins!

Win, Lose, or Tie... Dolphins till' I die!!!

agree on letting smith, go but now go sign some guys, right now we have nothing

DCPeteS,

I hope we don't draft a DT at 12. We have 2 excellent ones...just need to extend them.

I think we should draft one 4th rd or later for depth. Might get lucky and get a gem.

orlando no sure thing

need players. currently this isnt a good team

Carls. Dont forget Ireland is doing the picking for the up-coming raft, Dont let his free agent pick confuss you, He did the same thing in 2010... Rmember Marshal/Dansby..

Dusty, I hope Odin and his followers arnt reading this, otherwise they'll declear you as a "TROLL"..LOL

lol yeah guess truth hurts. im a bigger miami fan than they could ever be

Going to go against everyone of you guys. Good chance I will be wrong BUT I say the Dolphins will trade UP in this draft. Something tells me there is one player they really LOVE and will Pil the trigger to get him.

We should trade down takevtrufantblate first rd and Okafor early second round

BESS, HARTLINE, GIBSON = WORST IN THE LEAGUE IN YARDS AFTER CATCH
WE NEED THE NEW BEAST; CORDARELL PATTERSON WHO IS BETTEF THAN TAVON.

bet they stay right where they are

Some of these boys have been drinking the same KOOL-Aid that Sporono was serving 5 years ago, I agree with you, I see another 6 and 10 season.:(

Only 5 long weeks to the draft...The Phins could almost go in any direction and help themselves a lot. CB, S, OT, TE, DE...just need the best player available. I don't see a big need to move down with 11 picks. We need quality not quantity.

bobby,

I'm not a draft expert but I don't see anyone in a position of need for us worth trading away picks for..except maybe Joeckle or Ansah????

Posted by: playmakers | March 21, 2013 at 09:05 PM

I don't if it just smokescreens but there is talk that teams are seriously concerned about Patterson's intelligence.

Posted by: ( . ) ( . ) MaGee | March 21, 2013 at 09:13 PM

I don't know about kool-aid but if we go 6-10 after adding so many weapons on offense, then Philbin can't coach a lick.

Dolfan Rick, just a gut feeling for some reason.

There just isn't anyone really worth moving up in the draft for this year. Why burn a 2nd rd pick for a guy like Ansah that had 4.5 sacks last year in the lowly WAC (or whatever name that conference has now)?

Posted by: dadsmithwest | March 21, 2013 at 09:14 PM

As you said, so many positions and options in which we can go.

However, it does make sense to trade down, if planning to use that extra 2nd rd pick to trade back into the bottom 1st rd if targeting a specific player that may go top of the 2nd rd.

So trading down, picking up an extra 2nd, could also serve to trade back into the bottom 1st rd if we dont think the player we're we maybe targeting with our 1st 2nd rd pick will be there. Capiche?

Tennessee wide receiver is a beast. If he's the BAP on the board would we take him? He would take Hartlines spot and put him on the bench.

Trade down? When do we start thinking quality over quantity? We passed on at least a few great players to trade down for average Odrick and Misi. Forget economy! Let's go luxury FOR A CHANGE!

I think Joeckle would be a huge upgrade over Long but he would cost at least our 1st this year and next and this years 2nd at least.

If we were able to trade up to #6 to maybe get Ansah that would cost 400 points which is a mid 2nd rder.

dadsmithwest,

Even after doing what I suggested in the last post to you, we still have enough ammo to move back into the 2nd rd with one of our 3rd picks.

Just so many picks and so many options that can be taken advantage of. We dont neccessarily have to use a pick per player. We can use them to better position ourselves to get even better player than we would at our original position.

DO WE HAVE A NEW LOGO? Or are they just throwing the idea around? Where can I see it? Thanks.

dadsmithwest,

Exactly why our draftis almost next to impossible to mock. We have almost unheard of flexibility in the many ways to pursue what we want.

Ansah does look rather beasty though. 6-5 270 4.6 in the 40. Member of BYU track team.

With the positions of the many draft picks we can move up, down, sideways, into, and out of any round we want. LOL...

And we can even stay put and do well in this draft. LOL...

The goal should be to get 3 long term starters out of our lot of picks. This team has a despicable history of drafting for well over 10 years now. Use the ammo, trade up, get three sure fire starters. That is what I would do instead of trade down for quantity.

Hell, we dont even have to use the 2nd rd pick from Vonte. We can trade it to a team we think will have one of the five worst 2013 records for their 2014 2nd rd and 3rd rd picks.

They'll pick top 5 draft order in both of those rds.

I would like for Ireland to get a playmaker whether he moves down or not. Offense Offense Offense.

I want to be the highest scoring team in the league and have the best offense.

Senso,

So many options. We can trade up in the 1st rd and still have enough ammo to trade back into the 2nd rd.

Getting at least a top 7 pick and still end up with two 2nd rd picks. Like I said, so many different directions we could go.

Trade back into the 2nd rd using one of our 3rd picks.

Seriously all we need to do is get someone to block and add some depth at rb, draft one of the better wr's in the second rd and we'll have a pretty high octane offense.

This team is getting closer. We signed a bunch of FA's that all look like upgrades over what we had. Philbin and Ireland have both stated they believe in building through the draft. Fine. Not so fine if you have no players left from the 2008 draft. Forget this bargain basement attitude. Forget fictitious 'fair value'. Identify 3 players or a group that can be any of those 3 players, use the ammo, trade up and nab them.

I dont see our 11 draft picks as 11 players we have to pick, even though we can use it that way.

I see our 11 draft picks as poker chips and we're in the drivers seat to be king of the table.

I just saw were Dumervil's agent said that Elvis wants to play in Miami, since we don't have Longs salary anymore we should be able to acquire Dumervil;and I realize he won't be cheap but you get what you pay for and he can flat out get to the QB.

Senso,

We're kings of the poker table. We can do just about anything we want to. Including exactly what you stated.

First of all I HATE change. BUT if you look at our current logo (pretty cheesy) and take a look at the possible new logo- In my opinion the new logo looks better. Let's not forget they did make a change a few years ago to our original logo (the original logo actually looked better).

Add Sinatra Jr, to the Gang of Idiot bloggers.

PFT just said 3 teams interested in Dumervil. Steelers, Ravens,and Broncos.

Great ideas everybody!

Yesterday G

We can. But will we? Many have their criticisms of Ireland. When we traded down at 12 for Odrick and Misi later, we passed up on too many valuable players, and ended up with not enough to justify the trade down. Let's not repeat that.

Amateur and ignorant GM's seek character and integrity.

Winners seek talent.

That is just the way it is.

Matt Barkley or Bust.

Should we get a center too Gregg???

Whats wrong with wanting to buy a DE in free agency and we can afford it. and by the way, I'm not a idiot and i don't run in a gang.

If Land Johnson is there the phins need to draft him hands down. The guy was a QB in high school. Runs well there is a you tube video on him running down a CB that intercepted a pass. Plus he is a hell of a athlete. Or in the first round a pass rusher 2 rounds RB WR TE third rounds safety pass rushers or OL. Forth round speed speed speed best available talented playmakers. Speed kills.

If Land Johnson is there the phins need to draft him hands down. The guy was a QB in high school. Runs well there is a you tube video on him running down a CB that intercepted a pass. Plus he is a hell of a athlete. Or in the first round a pass rusher 2 rounds RB WR TE third rounds safety pass rushers or OL. Forth round speed speed speed best available talented playmakers. Speed kills.

Yeah, let trade down and get worse players.

Gregg is either kidding or very stupid. Barkley looks like a career back up, like Brady Quinn, Matt Moore and many others. Tanne's upside looks way higher. Plus he is already more of an offensive threat than Barnacle ever will be.

If Land Johnson is there the phins need to draft him hands down. The guy was a QB in high school. Runs well there is a you tube video on him running down a CB that intercepted a pass. Plus he is a hell of a athlete. Or in the first round a pass rusher 2 rounds RB WR TE third rounds safety pass rushers or OL. Forth round speed speed speed best available talented playmakers. Speed kills.

No, Pouncey will be fine.

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