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Dolphins officially interested in Wallace, but ...

The Miami Dolphins have done what everyone expected them to do during this free agency signing period and have officially shown interest in prospective Pittsburgh Steelers free agent wide receiver Mike Wallace. (That is now fact).

So, as I write in my column in Sunday's Miami Herald, the question is no longer whether the Dolphins actually want Mike Wallace. We're past that.

The question now is whether the Dolphins can land Mike Wallace?

I have no tangible information what it will take. Presumably a deal for Wallace is going to hit at least $12 million a year. And presumably, it will be done sometime next week. (That part is speculation).

More facts, you say?

Well, check the column because it discusses how the Dolphins have shifted their approach this free agency -- at least somewhat. Let's just say that their interest in 36-year-old Charles Woodson is significant because it shows the team is more willing to expand its search for talent.

Older guys are not out of bounds any more as long as they offer significant talent.

By the way, because it will take a good amount of money to sign Wallace and eventually a good amount of the salary cap you should know the Dolphins are at approximately $30.5 million in available cap space.

And, as many of you come to this blog or follow me on twitter to ask my opinion, I tell you exactly what I think of Miami's chances of getting Wallace ... in the column.

 

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.......Yet, many still want to disregard history in favor of fantasy.

If Irescum had half a brain he would've drafted Dez Bryant.....12 TD's last year.

Well it's never worked before....but let's believe it will work for us....and pay a fortune to take the chance.

Vegas should crank out some odds on this.

bush stayed healthy here,lol yeah for bush maybe. every week we had to listen to garbage on him

Can someone tell me how many times in the last 30 years a star WR free agent helped a team win the SB?

Posted by: Legume | March 10, 2013 at 09:02 AM

about 20 times

dez has become very very good

Just look at the 49er's tape, Martin got steam rolled by Aldon Smith, and Smith weighs in the 265 to 270 lbs range. Sure he can get stronger, but there's a reason he lasted until the 2nd round and Jake was the 1st overall pick in the draft. I think we need to re-sign Long, franchise LT's don't grow on tree's, and I don't trust Martin.

smith steamrolled most everyone. the worst moments were long getting destroyed by bills and colts

long is way past the franchise lt part. hes in decline big time and always hurt. no need for him and his 11 mill salary, colts can have him

Just saying ...try listing some names, bet you can't think of more than one in NFL history...go ahead...

John,

No interest in Harrison, IMO. He's washed up. Injured and just not the same guy. I think the Steelers said that. Might end up with the Pats and squeeze another year out. But not a fan any more.

I'd much rather have Freeney or Abraham, again depending on the price.

Can someone tell me how many times in the last 30 years a star WR free agent helped a team win the SB?

Posted by: Legume | March 10, 2013 at 09:02 AM

Why do you Wallace fans avoid this question? At least preface your 'gotta have Wallace at any price' posts with - "Even though it has never before worked in NFL history...."

We have so much cap space they better sign Long.

Sign Wallace And Long.

I can think of only one FA receiver that helped his team win a SB. One. Maybe there are more, but I can't think of them.

lobo,

Was Plaxico a FA WR that helped them win a SB? Pretty sure he was there at that time.

It's not really a fair question becaue FA hasn't been prominent in the NFL for 30 yers. Not to the extent it is now. I get the question that was asked but the more important question is, what do you think the team should do with the $30 mil+ it has in FA? If we don't spend it on a WR (biggest nedd right now, IMO), then what does that say about the team? You follow?

From The Last Post

The Qb Keeps #17 Over The Wr.

As Long As Wallace Doesn't Pick #19! We Are All OK!!

Tannehill is developing into Chad Henne 2.0.

Posted by: Steve in Ottawa

So he's running alot slower and checking down to his running back constantly. Didn't notice that myself last year.

Craig M....

if I may answer Legume's question....

There really haven't been a lot of TOP FLIGHT FA WR to hit the market....i'm quite sure that lower tier guys who it the FA market may hit the jack-pot and win a SB with a team already ready to win....

but the truth of the matter is...TOP TIER WRs don't hit the FA market that often....

The Ravens dont win the SB without Boldin.

Craig

Overpaying players doesn't make them as good as the price you paid for them. His team chose Antonio Brown, his coach called him a one trick pony. Wallace is not a #1 receiver. The team that knows him best are saying so loud and clear.

The draft has plenty of WR options and we have picks. Use FA for our other needs, DE, S, CB, TE

Just Saying

Take 5 seconds to do some research before you post.
Boldin was traded.

My opinion isn't worth fertilizer. I'm listening to the Steelers opinion.

Wallace is the key, last year teams loaded up the box on us and didn't have anyone to fear that they could get behind them. He will make teams play honest, and he will open up all the underneath stuff that Hartline and Bess are so good at. That is why we need him. He brings big play potential, something we never had even with Brandon Marshall. You can't teach speed, either you got it or you don't.

Wallace came to camp late last year and was off his game. Wonderful, just what we need to look forward to.

Past behavior is the best indicator of future behavior.

More often than not..if a team has a STAR quality WR...and he becomes a headache...or becomes expendable...he is traded...NOT allowed to walk.....

IE...Boldin

Marshall

Moss

T.O. (while he was still relevant)...

Bowe was locked back up by his team.....

even Ocho cinko was traded from cincy to PATS

SO top tier WR just don't hit the market that often....

why was boldin open so many times, wasnt cause of his slow speed. it was torrey taking the top off

I hope that answers your question....

"I have no tangible information what it will take. Presumably a deal for Wallace is going to hit at least $12 million a year. And presumably, it will be done sometime next week. (That part is speculation)."

All signs point to a deal with the Dolphins. Ireland was prepared to break the bank on the best available WR after last year & Wallace is that player.

lobo,

I'll add to Kris' point. There have very likely been many times over the years where a team has resigned their WR's preventing them from going to FA and gone on to win a Super Bowl. So that would fall into that category. Kris is right, teams don't let their top WRs hit FA. Can't argue that point.

And I believe the Steelers would have liked to have resigned Wallace all things being equal but he forced their hand by holding out. They wouldn't negotiate with him while he held out and they went on to resign Brown.

One other point....he's not gone from the Steelers quite yet.

Building a team through free agency is generally for losers. A lot of fans want to sign and overpay for players that are not wanted by other teams. The Redskins and the Eagles tried this and failed miserably. I like a plan where you keep most of your free agents, add 1 or 2 good FA from other teams but build mostly through the draft. Woodson, Jennings, and all this other old players everyone is discussing is not the way to go.

Remember Namdi Asamouga? How did that turn out? He was supposed to be the best corner in pro football. Ireland and the fins have to be careful and choose wisely.

Boldin has been a great receiver since he arrived in Arizona, well before he played with Torrey. He is a more sure handed Marshall. He doesn't need anyone's help.

Add Wallace and Boldin, now that would be something, we would have the deep threat and the man that can beat DB's with his physicallity and win in the redzone.

yes lobo when he had fitz u mean,lol oh and warner

SO top tier WR just don't hit the market that often....

Posted by: Kris | March 10, 2013 at 11:26 AM

not that often = never. Wallace is not a top tier WR.

I don't profess to know better than the Steelers FO, they've proved very well they know what they are doing. I'm listening to their opinion.

boldins good but at 32 he def needs torrey taking defense off

Guys, if we still had Marshall we wouldn't most likely not be dipping into FA for a WR. The brass (rightly in my opinion), decided that Wallace wasn't worth the headache and money. So they traded him and freed up the cap space.

So for the guys that are saying no to Wallace, how would you spend the money. That's the real question. Do you ignore the real problem and leave your hands in our pockets and wait 2-3 years for the WR to develop?

I like Tavon Austin too, just think if we drafted him at #12 and signed Wallace. Sorry Davone Bess but a speedier quicker version of you would be something to behold.

Craig and Kris,

I think you are making my point, not countering it. Teams rarely let top tier receivers get away. And when they have, those receivers have NEVER helped their new team win a trophy, which leads one to think they many not have been top tier after all....when the team that knows them best are letting them walk.

lobo are u drunk or just really dense?

lobo,

If you're saying Wallace isn't a top tier WR, then why does every publication out there have him listed as a top ten FA avaiable and in some cases THE top FA out there. Are they all wrong? Was Polian wrong when he said he checks off most of the boxes? I don't get the hate for Wallace, man.

Craig I answered you.

Overpaying a player doesn't make them any better. No matter how bad you need them, it doesn't make them any better. If the best option is the draft full of WR's, and you have plenty of picks, then that is your best option for that position. Use FA for your other needs.


Can someone tell me how many times in the last 30 years a star WR free agent helped a team win the SB?

Posted by: Legume | March 10, 2013 at 09:02 AM


Why do you Wallace fans avoid this question? At least preface your 'gotta have Wallace at any price' posts with - "Even though it has never before worked in NFL history...."

Posted by: lobo | March 10, 2013 at 11:13 AM

A. Boldin. JUST THIS LAST SEASON! Don't even have to look deep into history to find an answer.

Enough with this stupid pointless question!

It's the same as asking how many FA Rb's ever helped a tema win a SuperBowl? Or a TE. Or a DE. Pointless argument you're trying to make & using pages upon pages of blog space to do it.

lobo,

Come on man! Have you looked at the Steelers cap situation? They just chopped Harrison and Mendenhall. They're getting older, need to rebuild the OL and find a running game. They just spent all that money on Brown. Are there a lot of teams pout there spending $20 mil combined on their top two WRs?

And again, they haven't let him go yet. It's not complete yet. They've only let him hit FA at this point.

lobo I agree with you that there is lost of risk awarding Wallace a jackpot contract to join us via free agency. He is widely regarded as the best WR available because of his speed, youth, production and injury history. With all the talk now about us making a play for him (I've read it could already be a done deal in the 11.5 million range/year with 30 million guaranteed.). Arguing about why not to get him might be moot at this point.

If Philbin and Sherman can game plan specifically for his strengths to shine, and he's motivated, it could work out well. Fingers crossed.

Just FYI | March 10, 2013 at 11:38 AM

Pay attention...someone already tried that. Boldin wasn't a FA.

why was boldin open so many times, wasnt cause of his slow speed. it was torrey taking the top off

Dusty,

That's not it. Boldin is an amazing player & there's not many players I'd rather have on my football team than him. He's never been a burner but he's always been extremely productive & very hard to defend. If you re-watch the SB, you'll notice that Boldin wasn't even open on several plays. He's so physical & has such great hands that he bailed Flacco out.

I really don't understand how the Ravens paid all of that money to Flacco & then had the nerve to ask Boldin to take a pay cut. That's a joke. If anything Boldin should get a raise after the way he played in the playoffs. Unfortunately the Ravens will learn that Flacco is not so 'elite' w/o his elite WR.

SO top tier WR just don't hit the market that often....

Posted by: Kris | March 10, 2013 at 11:26 AM

not that often = never. Wallace is not a top tier WR.

I don't profess to know better than the Steelers FO, they've proved very well they know what they are doing. I'm listening to their opinion.

Posted by: lobo | March 10, 2013 at 11:31 AM
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Lobo....

I understand your counter-point....and the same thoughts occurred to me when typing what I did....

However...for me....

I'm all about thinking outside the box....and just cause it hasn't worked for somebody else...is no reason for me not to try it....

I understand your logic...but i'm about pushing the envelope....

Wallace has had 2 consecutive 1,000 yard seasons, he was on pace for a 3rd consecutive 1,000 yard season but Ben Rothliesburger missed like 5 games last year. And he had Leftwitch and Batch throwing him the Ball. Batch didn't have the arm for the deep routes Wallace was running so they got him involved in shorter passing plays because of the limitations of Batch. Plus he has 34 touchdowns over the last 4 seasons. Our WR managed a measly 3.

John,

Tavon Austin is the man. He is the most dynamic and explosive receiver in the draft. He ran a 4.3 in the 40s and is just a playmaker. I hope that we pick him.

Lobo- I totally agre with you. Teams do not let talents like Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, or Andre Johnson go. Hec, teams don't let guys like Dwayne Bowe hit FA. Wallace is fast but not in a league with those guys.

Can someone tell me how many times in the last 30 years a star WR free agent helped a team win the SB?

Posted by: Legume

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2013/03/dolphins-officially-interested-in-wallace-but-.html#storylink=cpy

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Boldin and Jacoby Jones just helped Baltimore.
Plaxico helped the Giants.
Moss helped Pats almost win it and led them to 18-0.

late breakfast this morning...later men....

and lets hope the reports on Wallace are TRUE for once....

unlike...

Harbaugh

Manning

Fisher (THANK GOD)

lets see if the football gods smile on us for once....

So lobo,

The part you HAVEN'T answered yet, is what do you propose the team do with the $30mil + they have available? Can you tell me that please?

Can you also tell me which WR is the surefire answer in the draft, cause I can't tell.

Mike Wallace on this team makes the team better. That's all I know right now. And if you're not interested in making the team better then I don't know what to say.

Bears have made an offer to Jake Long

Craig

No hate on my part, none. I just think the price for Wallace is ridiculous. Who gives a flying hoot what the polls say. If you want to quote Polian, he also said Wallace is never your first option on any down, he will always be your second option. Also he said he is not your move the chains guy, he doesn't have the best hands.

Wallace is benefiting from no competition in the WR department.

Brandon Marshall is MUCH better then Mike Wallace.

Broncos/Falcons all over Steven Jackson

I have to admit us signing wallace is a rumor that I hope isn't true. I think the remaining 28 million on cap can be spent on more upgrades than just one player.

I have been reading that ST WR Gibson is a much better fit for the west coast system that the fins currently have. He is a big dude to that can catch the ball. I would rather give him a Hartline type contract and then go hard after SF S Goldson, and NY TE Bennett. I really don't see Philbin wanting to spend 12 million a year on a receiver.

"Come on man! Have you looked at the Steelers cap situation? They just chopped Harrison and Mendenhall. They're getting older, need to rebuild the OL and find a running game. They just spent all that money on Brown. Are there a lot of teams pout there spending $20 mil combined on their top two WRs?

And again, they haven't let him go yet. It's not complete yet. They've only let him hit FA at this point."

Craig,

Wallace is gone from Pittsburgh. They have serious cap problems & if they were going to keep him they would have tagged him. I'm 99% certain he already has a deal in place with another team. Come Tuesday we'll know which one.

disagree playmakers, torrey was killing teams deep early in season. they started to adjust which helped boldin all season long

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