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Dolphins officially interested in Wallace, but ...

The Miami Dolphins have done what everyone expected them to do during this free agency signing period and have officially shown interest in prospective Pittsburgh Steelers free agent wide receiver Mike Wallace. (That is now fact).

So, as I write in my column in Sunday's Miami Herald, the question is no longer whether the Dolphins actually want Mike Wallace. We're past that.

The question now is whether the Dolphins can land Mike Wallace?

I have no tangible information what it will take. Presumably a deal for Wallace is going to hit at least $12 million a year. And presumably, it will be done sometime next week. (That part is speculation).

More facts, you say?

Well, check the column because it discusses how the Dolphins have shifted their approach this free agency -- at least somewhat. Let's just say that their interest in 36-year-old Charles Woodson is significant because it shows the team is more willing to expand its search for talent.

Older guys are not out of bounds any more as long as they offer significant talent.

By the way, because it will take a good amount of money to sign Wallace and eventually a good amount of the salary cap you should know the Dolphins are at approximately $30.5 million in available cap space.

And, as many of you come to this blog or follow me on twitter to ask my opinion, I tell you exactly what I think of Miami's chances of getting Wallace ... in the column.

 

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There are a few bloggers here that get into it with others here on a daily basis. We won't name names, we know who you are. And it is tiresome.

Craig,

Let me guess...

You are wearing a white shirt, white pants, white boxers, white socks...or perhaps just a white gown and white slippers?

Posted by: lobo | March 10, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Oh...... but lobo, you were CraigM's buddy yesterday heling him to "try" and bash me.

So fking funny, now you learn the true idiot CraigM is really is. ROTFLMAO............................

You learned about Craig sooner than I did...you could have warned me :)

Gents if you can keep the flame wars to minimum today that would be great. Lots of Dolphins news to discuss and hopefully we can discuss it like adults.

Darkoak

No real news until Tuesday afternoon. Right now there is nothing but a media smokescreen gossip festival.

lobo,

CraigM is only your buddy if you buy into his circle-jerk of yes men hook line and sinker. You cant disagree with him even if hes wrong.

Then when he's wrong he'll twist the facts to suit his liking. I see he's making a quick learner of you. LOL...

Posted by: lobo | March 10, 2013 at 12:43 PM

I tried but you were under his spell at the time. He's a great guy when agreeing with his bs.

Oh boy, lots and lots of bs. LOL...

I hear ya Darkoak. And I agree that it can and will hamstring teams. But the cap will be going up and up over the next few years. And also this point, if we don't field a WINNING team this year Ireland is probably gone, agreed? Of course it depends on how the team is performing. But we don't make a move for proven improvement and go 6-10 or 7-9 again then Ireland is gone. Then the next guy is dismantling and creating in his own image. We are starting over, again.

Craig M....

I'll own that I wanted Carson Palmer.....

As long as your gonna come on here and own your Henne crush up until the day he was traded....

Remember...I don't think many thought Palmer was the savior....we just thought he was better than Henne.....

and I still do....

So the comparison wasn't Palmer is a TOP QB in the league.....

the TRUE choice was Palmer or Henne.....and i'd still take Palmer every time......

Henne was so bad I wanted KYLE ORTON......and I think you did too.....

Lobo it's fun to discuss those sometimes. I like hearing the differing opinions everyone has on here and I don't get the hostility or trying to prove the other person wrong stuff. Who cares what any of us think really except for entertainment purposes?

Free agency and the draft will play out like they play out.

Justin Credible just put out the stats, hard facts. Wallace has equal or better numbers then Andre or Calvin Johnson at the same point of their careers. Mike Wallace is worth the money

lobo,

You posted you answered him twice. Dont worry, if your facts prove him wrong, he's never been one to allow facts to cloud his 2yr old judgement. LOL...

Agree with Bobby D....via JUSTIN CREDIBLE....

Posted by: Kris | March 10, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Kris,

No excuse for you man. You already know CraigM well enough to know he'll never do that. LOL...

I'm hoping Armando posts something about the Mendenhall interest the Dolphins reportedly have. That could be interesting.

not traded....just not offered a new contract....

Yesterday

I think it is more serious than that. Alzheimers or BPD or some yet undiagnosed malady.

Kris,

Also, regarding Palmer, nothing evergrows in the blackhole. I believe Palmer would have had a far better chance of being a good qb had he come to Miami.

Hell, all he did was run for his life inRaider natio. Their pass protection was far worse than ours.

Justin Credible just put out the stats, hard facts. Wallace has equal or better numbers then Andre or Calvin Johnson at the same point of their careers. Mike Wallace is worth the money

Posted by: bobbyd12 | March 10, 2013 at 12:50 PM


Well he left out a few hard facts....Mike Wallace had Big Ben and the best offensive coordinator in football.

Harline had Henne and Henning.

Bidniss I agree 100%, Ireland has to make the playoffs and he will spend to do it. I woul expect he looks for players ready to contribute now in the draft as well. So not the highest ceiling guys but the most NFL ready guys.

Posted by: lobo | March 10, 2013 at 12:53 PM

All kidding aside, something is clinically unstable in the mind of that kid CraigM. There more than a few buttons stuck and breaker switches tripped.

Kris,

Agreed about Henne. I was one of the biggest defenders of the guy until it was clear 2-3 game into his last season that it wasn't going to work here. Why? Because I wanted him to have that chance. I still think his progress was impeded by Sparano and Henning but regardless, his time was up. It's clear to me now that it's never going to happen for him in the NFL.

So if you are asking me to say 'I was wrong', then yes, I was wrong about Henne. I have no problem with that.

The question is...

How well would Hartline have done on that Steeler team and how well would Wallace have done on that Miami team.

We don't know. I'd have to think there stats would be different though.

YG @ 12:52....lol....

Craig M is also quick to tell me that ONE PLAYER can't win games by themselves....

and then is quick to BASH whichever player (Marshall/Palmer/whoever)....when they have a bad game...or for Palmer...end of a career...but Palmer also finished his career in the CESS POOL of the NFL...the Raiders.....a dying Al Davis......and a rudderless organization...

Lobo you have to admit though that Wallace on a streak is something to game plan against right? That's his one trick and he's scored TD's off of it.

I really hope they do not get Mike Wallace. The price for his services are inflated because there really isn't anyone else available. He is at best a mediocre receiver. Hypothetically, if the free agents that were available were Wallace, L. Fitzgerald, and V. Cruz would you value Wallace so highly? I don't think so.

This coaching staff did not know how to use Reggie Bush effectively. What makes anyone think that any other "playmakers" will be given the best opportunity to succeed?

Heck, I am not even sure Tanny can accurately deliver the deep ball with any consistency. I can recall several times him missing wide open guys running free downfield.

I can understand the need for them to generate some excitement for the season to boost sales, but does adding Mike Wallace, or for that matter Greg Jennings make you want to run out and attend games?

I'd like to think maybe our best option is the draft, but given the GM's history, I feel about as confident as Dan Carpenter lining up to kick a 48yd field goal.

What the are they going to do?

Justin credible I'm showing your post to the dolphins and demanding Megatron money!

Craig M.....

Thats all i'm asking for....a bit of accountability.....

i'll ALWAYS give mine....

And lobo (Mr name-caller),

You DIDN'T answer me. Went back and checked and you gave a chicken0shte answer! 'Use FA to fill other needs'? Huh? Brilliant! Like what man?

You've got an answer on Wallace (too expensive) but you've got nothing else to offer. THAT'S your answer? Sorry I even started talking to you in the first place. I thought you had a plan. It's clear you got nothing.

The most difficult thing about debating players is where to draw the fine line between when it's on being a team game and when it's on being a players individual ability.

Lobo...

who is this offensive coordinator that you speak of...

Craig M stands for MORON

Dark,

Of course I agree with that. I just see him as a luxury, accessory player, not a #1 WR, not someone that can be your first go to guy every down.

lobo,

From most of the Big Ben/Wallace highlights Ive seen. Most their big td plays came when Roeslisberger extended plays outside the pocket. No secondary could keep the wraps on Wallace that long.

Good thing is, that because Tannehill also has that type of althleticism and ability, Wallace should work well for us too.

Last season, Sherman pretty much kept the wraps on Tannehill operating outside of the pocket until very late in the season. As part of his development, Sherman wanted to get him accustomed to operating inside of the pocket first and foremost.

Wallace should be a great weapon for Tannehill when extending plays outside of the pocket.

Bruce Arians former OC of Pittsburgh that went to Indy last year.

heres an idea//percy harvin wants out of minny and it would only take a third rounder if minny decides to trade him..then draft bpa/wr available and sign jennings, gibson, or welker maybe///all that for the price of wallace

billcale wake up, so far this has been a solid off season. smart moves and more to come
Posted by: dusty bottoms | March 10, 2013 at 09:09 AM


dusty, what are you basing your opinion on? Have you learned a little football? Last time we had an exchange, you were clueless:


dusty, I thought teams could sign their own pending FAs at any time?
Posted by: billcale | February 10, 2013 at 09:41 AM

no billcale
Posted by: dusty bottoms | February 10, 2013 at 09:41 AM

Agree Lobo @ 1:03....

I lean I lean more to player ability then total team game....and I point to the comments a performance of Boldin as my most recent example....but the list is far deep than that....

SPECIAL players change not only the position they play....but they also change how the position is defended.....

I love play makers....

IT IS VERY OBVIOUS THAT THE DOLPHINS ARE GOING TO BE VERY AGGRESSIVE IN IMPROVING TALENT. IF THEY LAND WALLACE AND I THINK THEY WILL, THAT WILL UPGRADE THIS OFFENSE WITH A WEAPON THEY DON'T HAVE. I AGREE WITH DOLPHINDAVE IN THAT BACK IN THE DAY THE DOLPHINS LANDED WARFIELD AND IMMEDIATELY THEY MADE THE PLAYOFFS!! GET WALLACE AND THE SAME WILL HAPPEN BARRING INJURIES!! WITH BOTH WALLACE AND HARTLINE WE HAVE TWO GOOD PRODUCTIVE 1000 YARD RECEIVERS WITH BOTH HAVING PERFORMED WELL IN THIS LEAGUE AGAINST GOOD NFL CORNERS. THAT'S WHAT SEPARATES SPEED COLLEGE RECEIVERS VERSUS SPEED NFL RECEIVERS. GET WALLACE AND WE NOW HAVE AN UPDATED VERSION OF WARFIELD AND TWILLEY! OR SPEED WISE DUPER AND CLAYTON! AND FOR THOSE WHO THINK WE SHOULD GET WELKER I WOULD LOVE THAT BUT WHY NOT A FAST SLOT RECEIVER IN THE DRAFT WHO WOULD BE CHEAPER? LIKE AUSTIN? SIMPLE! WELKER HAS PRODUCED IN THIS LEAGUE AND KNOWS HOW TO WORK NFL DB AND HE WOULD WEAKEN NE LIKE NE WEAKENED US SINCE THE STUPID ASS TRADE! BUT EVERYTHING STARTS WITH WALLACE SO ALL IS LEFT NOW IS FOR JEFFY TO CLOSE THE DEAL! SO FAR JEFFY IS DOING ....? WAIT TIL AFTER WALLACE SIGNS!

Lobo,

OH...@ 1:08...

Posted by: Rhino | March 10, 2013 at 01:01 PM

You need look at Roeslisberger/Wallace highlights. Many times Ben would sling the ball as far as possible and Wallace would run the ball down. Then some it seem were slightly underthrown then Wallace would adjust and still make the catch.

Wallace is the type wr that every throw doesnt have to be a perfect throw. When a qb has bad recievers then nearly evry throw needs to be a perfect throw.

Great recievers are also great adjusting to the ball.

Yesterday's Gone 4Ever! | March 10, 2013 at 01:07 PM

I'm inclined to agree with this assessment. It still has to happen. I don't hate the guy, sure he is an asset. I just think it is a mistake to consider him a #1 WR. His game is too limited for that.

could you imagine harvin,jennings,patterson or draft pick WR,and bess with possibly welker to boot,,then a seam threat TE

Lobo that's a fair point and every Steeler fan I know has the same opinion of him that you do now that he is leaving Pittsburgh. But free agency is often about either paying for potential or past achievements. Wallace has both those factors on paper. That's a rare case where teams will want to take him.

Secondly the Pats interest might be real, if that's the case we can't let Brady have that kind of weapon.

Kris,

Come on man! You're just after lecturing to me about how 'elite' Flacco is and now you're telling me that Boldin wins games single-handely. Which is it?

Do you see what I'm talking about when you I talk about your contradictory statements?

Lobo, at what point do we stop worrying about who was throwing to Wallace and start worrying about our Dolphins?? We have the opportunity to get a big time receiver, who everyone agrees we need. He is in his prime. Isn't it time we get some talent and make a run for the title? I'm tired of losing, your not??

Craig M ,


Why do you fight with everyone?

Consider where this offense was last year around this time. Since then we hired a competent HC, we drafted a QB in the first round, we re-signed one of the best back up QB's in the NFL, we resigned our best WR from last year who won't be 27 until Novemeber, we drafted Miller to replace Bush's speed, & Ireland has the cap room to pursue a big time playmaker. These are all good things.

By not overpaying for Long, Bush, & Smith--this is the best position the Dolphins franchise has been in for YEARS.

Lobo, it's wise to avoid some. Yrying to blog with a few here is an eercise in futility.


Posted by: lobo | March 10, 2013 at 01:13 PM

lobo,

Google Steelers depth chart. Wallace is a #1 wr. I was under the same fallacy until I checked the Steelers depth chart for myself.

Until then, I always thought that Wallace was the Steelers #2 wr myself. Wallace is a legit @1 wr.

Craig M ,


Why do you fight with everyone?

Posted by: JD | March 10, 2013 at 01:16 PM

Because CraigM is under the false assumption he can make everyone agree with him by using force. To hell with trying it by using real facts for this guy.

You dont agree with him and you become his public enemy #1.

I doubt the Steelers could pay Wallace even if they wanted to. They've been fighting their cap for 3 years now.

nobby

I think who is throwing the ball kinda makes a difference, no?

Wallace isn't a big time receiver, big time receivers are guys you can look to every down every situation. He is a fine addition to a team that already has a true alpha receiver. We don't have one, I want one of those first.

Lobo any alpha receiver types in the draft or free agency you'd consider instead of Wallace?

Lobo, at what point do we stop worrying about who was throwing to Wallace and start worrying about our Dolphins?? We have the opportunity to get a big time receiver, who everyone agrees we need. He is in his prime. Isn't it time we get some talent and make a run for the title? I'm tired of losing, your not??

Bobby,

Exactly. Ireland KNOWS he has to get a playmaking WR to win more games but they cost a fortune. This is a good thing!!! He's an explosive playmaker who is a true burner & in his prime (will turn 27 in August). What's wrong with that???

BTW--Even if we 'break the bank' on Wallace for $12 Million a year the cap hit will be less than that (b/c of the signing bonus) & we'll still be in good shape. It's not like signing Wallace kills us in terms of cap space. W

Lobo, well I guess we are going to disagree then. I certainly believe Wallace is a number one. He will make everyone around him better.

Steelers could only pony up a 10 million a year offer to Wallace, which he turned down. I beliee that was the max offer amount that their cap situation would allow.

Once Wallace turned them down, their other starting wr excepted the offer made to him. That cut the money they could offer Wallace cut even shorter.

The first offer was made to Wallace, not their other wr.

Craig M....

I told you BEFORE....

There is NO DEBATE when it comes to the worth of Flacco....

arguably the BEST GM in the NFL just made him the highest paid player in NFL history.....Newsome values Flacco more than Brady....or Manning......

I kinda thought that spoke for itself.......

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