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Dolphins still vying for Jake Long even as he visits St. Louis

Jake Long, who has a gift for his economy of words when speaking with the media,also has a very vivacious and outgoing wife named Jackie.

That's right. Jake and Jackie Long.

Anyway, while Jake guards his privacy about as jealously as he does his quarterback's blind side, Jackie is more open. Jake has declined to speak with local media throughout his free agency period, selecting only national outlets to get out his message. Jackie, meanwhile, has a twitter account.

And that twitter account has been informative as to what's going on and how torn the couple is as they decide their future -- either with the Miami Dolphins or St. Louis Rams.

"Great dinner last night. Hoping to get everything figured out soon. No matter what happens we feel so fortunate." Jackie Long tweeted this morning from St. Louis where she and her husband awoke to a second day of a free agency visit.

Long spent nearly seven hours getting his physical from the Rams on Wednesday. Yes, perhaps the longest physical in the history of NFL free agency was probably a thorough investigation of the big man's multiple  former injuries -- biceps, triceps, knees, back, shoulders -- as the Rams decide how much they're willing to invest in Long.

As that physical was happening yesterday, Jackie Long had to correct an erroneous report in the South Florida Sun Sentinel that Long has agreed to terms with the Rams.

"Alright hold up everyone," Jackie Long tweeted minutes after the report went on the newspaper's website. "Nothing is official yet."

The report was vehemently denied through sources by the Rams who said not only was there no agreement, there were no terms that had even been discussed. The report was eventually taken down.

The Dolphins, meanwhile, remain hopeful they can get Long back. They have discussed contract details with Long's representation multiple times. They see Long taking trips as a way to set the market for his worth.

Long returning remains so important, the club was worried a tweet from Bryant McKinnie announcing he was on a plane to South Florida would be interpreted as him visiting the Dolphins and that would upset Long.

So the club made clear that no visit from McKinnie was scheduled so Long might not get upset and move on.

I don't read tea leaves. So I have no idea which way Long is going to go on this one. I know if the Rams had blown the Longs away on a contract, they were prepared to go that direction.

That obviously has not happened, at least not yet. And so the Dolphins are still vying to keep their left tackle. Their offer, which obviously wasn't what Long believed he was worth, is holding up so far.

[Update: NFL Network is reporting the Rams are negotiating a contract with Long.]

I'm told the Dolphins have a "Plan B" if Long bolts. They obviously will not implement that until Long makes a decision.

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KaPOW

Stop pouting and come back down ... just how much money is a left tackle think he's worth exactly. $100M should be enough for a family to eat during a career, even if one of the men weighs 300 lbs. You don't belong in St. Lou, jake.

Long is a good LT, not elite (anymore). At times I felt like I was watching a different player last year. Then factor in the injuries. The guy can't finish a season. And what are you worth if you're on the sidelines? I'd like to have Long back, even more so if he would entertain playing on the right side, but the Dolphins can not throw money at this guy. He's just not reliable enough.

Geez, no one knows what's in the Dolphins plans. Is Jake Long that important it will throw a monkey wrench into everything they have planned to do in FA and the draft? Is this why they haven't signed Keller or moved on to CBs?? Long has been selfish and extremely greedy IMO throughout this process. I hope this isn't hurting us.

This Conference is very much up for grabs over the next 2-3 years. The best teams right now are Denver, Houston, Cinci and soon to be Indy. Baltimore, NE and Pitt have all regressed. The time to rise up is now.

Now before people twist what I'm saying (on here, really?), it doesn't mean I think we have the team to do it. It means we'll have never have a better chance. Ravens have been raped this offseason and I'm looking forward to seeing 'Mr. Elite', Joe Flacco, carries this team, as so many here would have you believe.

Not impressed with Keller, but I guess he's the best of what's left.I would have spent the money on Cook or Bennett but I guess Ireland thought it got too rich. Not sure if his next move will be Keller or a guy like Gibson and I'm not sure why we're still messing around with Long. I'd get a deal done with Winston and focus on addressing CB.

Posted by: Craig M | March 14, 2013 at 09:36 AM

Bring back McKinnie !

Winston!

For those people who don't want Jake Long, my question is then who do we replace him with. Jonathan Martin does not have the power to handle the bull rush as evident from last year, put on the tape. I like Eric Winston at right tackle. If Jake did not have the injuries , and he is healthy again he will be a pro bowler again. We need his leadership also, if you look we have lost most of our captains of this football team. Plus Jake is still young, and we will be making a huge mistake to let him go. Mark my words on this. We got Wallace, but if Tannenhill is sitting on his butt he then can't make any throws. We need our Oline to be strong.

I'm torn about bringing back Long even if he does take a "lesser" contract. I mean, can't we find a basically equal player (now) in the early round(s) of the draft, at atleast a third of the price??

Long returning remains so important, the club was worried a tweet from Bryant McKinnie announcing he was on a plane to South Florida would be interpreted as him visiting the Dolphins and that would upset Long.

So the club made clear that no visit from McKinnie was scheduled so Long might not get upset and move on.

Mando,

Schefter--who is one of the ONLY people that I trust--said McKinnie was in Miami for a visit. So I could care less what 'the club' said.

And btw--the Dolphins made Jake an offer so why do they need to sit on pins & needles about whether a FA visit from another LT is going to hurt his feelings??? Who gives a sh#t??? If this is REALLY true then you can understand why we're still a losing franchise & why NE continues to make the playoffs every year. NE doesn't coddle their players or care about their feelings. They make the player an offer & if they don't like their offer then they find someone to replace them. If Jake was so GOOD & irreplaceable @ LT then a contract would have been done already.

I disagree that Jake Longs leadership is a huge factor. He has been a leader of this team and the OL since he got here, no doubt. And that is important to a degree. But Pouncey established himself as the leader and BEST player on the Line last year.

I sense FA slipping away. The stench is unmistakable.


Long must already have quite a lot of money right? Sure he wants more (don't we all) but in my opinion the Dolphins are in better shape than the Rams, play in an easier conference, an easier division, and with the Dolphins Long can be a one-team man. Finish what he started etc and become a Dolphins legend.

The Rams have two picks in the first rd. they can pick up O linemen. If they go for Long they must have confidence in him, that should also increase our confidence in Long and perhaps increase the offer whilst asking for a home town discount.

Sign Garner & let's get ready for the draft. If the coaches are on the fence about moving Martin to LT then we'll draft someone who is capable of playing both Tackle positions like Lane Johnson or Flueker.

We oughta draft up for Joeckl.

This is very telling in the fact that obviously the Fins do no trust Martin at Left tackle AND they have not made plans to draft anyone at this position. So far the Fins have looked and acted very confident in FA. This shows weakness and a little desperation on our part waiting for Long.


Craig M,

Sadly I do not think the Patriots have regressed. Perhaps less production on offense but their defense should improve.

But I agree with the AFC, I 'd rank the Dolphins 5th, up from 9th last year with Denver the only team clearly above the rest.

See, bobbyd12? Despite wanting me run over by a train, we are on the same page re Long drama.

Small World, Huh?

Post was deleted....my view is Jake Long was getting knocked (literally) on his butt last year multiple times. For a offensive lineman, that's as bad as it gets. Long can say whatever he wants about being recovered from his injuries. But the truth is he's just a shadow of what he used to be.

One more thing, Bobby mentioned greed...the Dolphins made him a multi-millionaire. More money than he'll ever be able to spend. But does he appreciate it? Ha!

bobby,

I don't think the team does trust Martin at the LT position and this in itself is a problem. I think Ireland's loyalty to Long probably cost us Cook and that's a shame. Five years in Miami and this is still the achilles on Ireland's record. TE position continues to be under-valued by this regime and it's costing us. I'm not excited about Keller at all. His stats are very similar to Fasano's. So some of you guys can throw a parade if you like, but I'm not satisfied with how they've addressed this. If Long balked at our offer, I would have snapped up Cook and Winston and moved on. Costly mistake, IMO.

WNP

Craig, generally agree with what you're saying and I'd even throw Denver in that regressing pile. Their window closes this year. Peyton benefiteed from an easy schedule and every time he faced a tough team last year bar the December Baltimore game, he wilted. They will be in teh playoff mix because their division is so shite but juggernaut? Naw...

Long made a ton of money last few years especially when you figure how many games he played. Have to get an insurance linemen anyway because of injury history. Long should have not been greedy and taken what was offered by fins knowing his injuries. Shows what kind of team player he is. As much as I hate pats, Brady restructured deal and they screwed him by letting Welker go. If Long is true Dolphin he should leave St. Louis and take offer on table.

Bobby, I agree.

I actually think Ireland is ruining his FA by waiting for Long & Smith.

The Pats were willing to let Welker leave. It was a take it or leave it offer for 1 of the most productive players over his span in the history of this game. He left, they quickly moved on.

Ireland is sitting at his desk with his tail between his legs hoping Long comes back. That's not how condident GM's operate.

Ireland is risking CB's & TE's which this team REALLY needs, for a broken down LT. Almost too hard to fathom!


This is perhaps a truer test of Irelands mad GM skills than paying Wallace lots and lots of money.

Every winning team must have players who are paid less than they're worth, either due to rookie contracts or to over performing. Can ireland get those players? Arguably Ellerbe can be one of those guys whilst Dansby obviously wasn't. we hope Miller and Tannehill are two more. Long will need to be convinced to play for Miami for reasons unrelated to how much he'll be paid - can Ireland make the sell?

Pete,

I don't think Welker and Amendola are a fair trade off. I think it will hurt them short-term and while I realize Amendola is younger and will fit what they want to do there, I think they've pissed Brady off again, which I don't get. They still have to resign Vollmer and Talib, just to get back to where they were last year. On top of all that, they only have five picks in this draft. So while I'm not writing them off, and they are still the Champs until be beat them, they most certainly have holes.

long get upset? what an f'n baaabaaaay.
lol

WNP, problem is, remember how Darlington said the Dolphins draft plans were intriguing? Al that goes out the window if all of a sudden we have to move up or draft an OT.

Sadly I do not think the Patriots have regressed. Perhaps less production on offense but their defense should improve.

But I agree with the AFC, I 'd rank the Dolphins 5th, up from 9th last year with Denver the only team clearly above the rest.

Pete,

I agree with you on the Patriots but how are we 5th??? B/c we added Wallace & replaced two mediocre LB's with possible upgrades??? Until we show otherwise this season we're a 7-9 football team as far as I'm concerned. We don't have a starting TE, we are missing a starting Tackle (either RT or LT depending on what we do with Martin), need AT LEAST one starting CB, & we can't count on Thomas so we need a RB.

Ireland can still bury himself & this team by re-signing Long & Smith. 5th best my a@@.

You can't let Long hold you hostage. The fins need to move on. Find another tackle. Look at Keller, F Davie and Brandon Myer or draft a te. Maybe they're waiting to see what happens in Denver with Dumervil before spending the bucks...


bobby,

I don't think the team does trust Martin at the LT position and this in itself is a problem. I think Ireland's loyalty to Long probably cost us Cook and that's a shame. Five years in Miami and this is still the achilles on Ireland's record. TE position continues to be under-valued by this regime and it's costing us. I'm not excited about Keller at all. His stats are very similar to Fasano's. So some of you guys can throw a parade if you like, but I'm not satisfied with how they've addressed this. If Long balked at our offer, I would have snapped up Cook and Winston and moved on. Costly mistake, IMO.

Posted by: Craig M | March 14, 2013 at 09:59 AM
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Have to agree. While improving LBs, nothing was done at critical needs. OT, TE, CB. With Fasano leaving, we're in a real bind.

Mark,

I'm not saying they are a juggernaut but they have a nice team. I liked the adding of Welker, the guard from SD and the adding of Cromartie from Philly. All sound moves and they didn't really break the bank. This adds to the team they had last year, which was stong. Right now, they're the best in the AFC, as things stand right now.

But you're right, their window is small, which goes back to my original point.

WE'RE GONNA WIN THE SB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Long is gone, though in free agency, he might not get the offers he thinks he will.

Long is bad news. Hope he takes the Rams to the cleaners.

We have two leaders on the OL: Pouncy and Incognito.

homer,not win, host.
lmao

bobby,

I wouldn't be heartbroken if we took Lane Johnson at 12. I really like this guy and I'd be more comfortable with this guy playing LT than Martin.

We still need to address TE and CB and that's my real concerns right now. I'd also take a flyer on Kerry Rhodes, depending on his price. I'm not convinced Clemmons starts the season for us at FS, depsite the signing. Call me skeptical but that's how I feel. Good depth signing, IMO.

Tanny better not lose Bush AND Long.

bobby, I think it's rather obvious the Dolphins have other plans for their first pick other than OT or TE. Either going to be CB (Xavier Rhodes or Milliner in a crazy trade up which i wouldn't do personally) or plainly just BPA regardless of position.

Considering the Dolphins are coming off 4 consecutive losing seasons, I'm going to go ahead and say his monetary value isn't worth anything near 10 mill when translated to wins. It would be nice to have him back, but there are more pressing areas that need addressed in free agency like corner(s), and a TE.

Craig M, gonna be honest with you, I don't believe this has anything to do with Cook. We have plenty of cap space in which we could have signed Cook and Long. I believe Cook, who was drafted by Fisher was more comfortable in that relationship. Add in Armando said they offered him a boatload of money, I see why Cook went to the Rams.
Now Keller, has had a decent career playing with a bad team. He is still young, is a huge seam threat and can run. I wanted Cook to but I see nothing wrong with Keller in this offense. He was rated 3rd best TE FA behind Bennett and Cook. I would have preferred Cook to but sometimes things actually work out better in the long run.

The problem with moving on from Jake is the same problem we currently have at Tight End.

There's no guarantees we can get one of the top tier O-Lineman or Tight Ends in the Draft.

That makes these next few Free Agency moves EXTREMELY important. You have to look at our options OBJECTIVELY. Forget what Jakes done in the past, forget the interest by other teams. Forget he was even a Dolphin altogether. Focus on whats left, whats the best options available.

Jake or Winston? Jake or McKinnie?

And Keller, like it or not, is the next best option available.

Ink a Keller, settle on a Lineman and lets start focusing in on some secondary upgrades.


WNP,

I'm projecting a bit, andit is too early but...Improvement from our rookies, 5 picks in the first 100 picks. 2nd year of the program. We we're 9th in 2012 but on an upward trajectory. Wallace and Ellerbe are improvements and we're not finished yet (I hope).

However, its not so much improvement by us but a lack of improvement by other teams. The Steelers are regressing, The Ravens are now rebuilding. The Chargers were above us and have a new coaching set up and have not improved in FA thus far. I consider the Bengals 6th at the moment but it really depends on how they stranghen in FA, they have cap sapce but haven't done anything yet.

the Patriots, Broncos, Texans and Colts are better right now but I think that's it.

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I actually think Ireland is ruining his FA by waiting for Long & Smith.

The Pats were willing to let Welker leave. It was a take it or leave it offer for 1 of the most productive players over his span in the history of this game. He left, they quickly moved on.

Ireland is sitting at his desk with his tail between his legs hoping Long comes back. That's not how condident GM's operate.

Ireland is risking CB's & TE's which this team REALLY needs, for a broken down LT. Almost too hard to fathom!

LOL,

Just when I was ready to start giving Ireland credit for turning the corner--he regresses to his default state. I always believed that at the end of the day Long would return to Miami. Why??? B/c no other team wants to pay big money for a LT that is injury prone & coming off his worst season.

As for Smith--it seemed that SOME team would be dumb enough to overpay for him BUT again the only team that has any legitimate interest is Miami. Why??? B/c Ireland thinks he's getting 'value' but what he's really getting is sh#t.

For those of you saying that we can't replace Long, let me ask this....."Did you watch the games last year"? Jake got BLOWN UP so many times it was sad to watch. He wasn't even a solid LT. I'm okay with keeping him if he's cheeeeeeeep, but no way for more than $6mill a year. And....I'd have some injury clauses in there too. I like Jake, but he just isn't elite at all, and if he gets hurt again..OMG. If Martin can add some strength, he'll be a solid LT.

Craig, denver is in the same situation as us but for different reasons. We are both being held up by our QBs. Ours is green and we hope he continues to progress - there's is fighting father time - a battle everyone eventually loses. I wouldn't be surprised if this is Peyton's last year.

Bobby not sure if anyone mentioned this but reports are saying CBs are in limbo because teams are waiting for Revis to land somewhere and teams not interested in him are waiting for the market to be set.

bobby, I think it's rather obvious the Dolphins have other plans for their first pick other than OT or TE. Either going to be CB (Xavier Rhodes or Milliner in a crazy trade up which i wouldn't do personally) or plainly just BPA regardless of position.

Mark,

I don't believe anything is obvious right now. If we sign Keller &/or re-sign Long then that changes.

Dolfan from St. Louis. All I can say is the weather here is cold in the winter and darn hot and humid in the summer. Might want to consider that Jake. The state of Missouri, though, is very beautiful.

Posted by: We Need Playmakers | March 14, 2013 at 10:11 AM

Exactly. I was a big fan of his on day 1. This sitting in a holding pattern over a broken down oft injured LT & an over rated soft Cb is absurd.

If Ireland brings either of these 2 back for ANY money, he shows how bad a GM he is.

There was LOADS of talent at both positions when FA started. He has passed. He will now be stuck having to pay to bring these bumbs back because he can get "value".

I agree with you, he is mucking this up by returning to the Ireland we know...BIG TIME!


Craig M,

I agree they have hole, esp needing to sign Vollmer.

I respectfully disaress about Amendola - assuming he can stay healthy. I think that if he plays 16 games he can match Welkers production. I rate him highly if only he could stay on the field.

On the other hand Brady's done in my opinion. QBs should NOT take a pay cut to recruit other players to win the game for them. They should take the money because they know they will win the game themselves. I think on some level Brady has given up.

If the money is even close it is a no brainer, living in St. Louis or Miami, DUHHHH, who wants to live in St. Louis???

I don't think the Rams are a dumb team. Please prove me wrong...

Pete,

I just don't get the logic for not signing Welker. It's what Brady wanted. It wouldn't have broken the bank. I have no problem with Amendola, EXCEPt he can't stay healthy. So that's a big questions mark to me. TO me, just based on what they had with Welker and the chemistry he had with Brady, is a step back. Still the tema to beat in our division but they've got question marks.

Exactly. I was a big fan of his on day 1. This sitting in a holding pattern over a broken down oft injured LT & an over rated soft Cb is absurd.

If Ireland brings either of these 2 back for ANY money, he shows how bad a GM he is.

There was LOADS of talent at both positions when FA started. He has passed. He will now be stuck having to pay to bring these bumbs back because he can get "value".

I agree with you, he is mucking this up by returning to the Ireland we know...BIG TIME!

LOL,

Like I said--you can't be YG b/c you have an actual brain.

I'm sick to my stomach...I just had a feeling that no one wanted Long.

Anyone else have a sad cuz FA sliding away?

Hard to carry on today.

WNP, agreed, I said that basically on the premise that they sign Long/Keller

Craig, Lane Johnson ... wow ... that's my boy.

I'd take him first overall in this draft. Serious mancrush.

Craig,

I don't get all the Cook love from people. Not just you, but many were acting like he was the second coming.

As ALoco would say: WHAT HUS KOOK EVAH WON?
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Also.....

People are posting about Long being a Millionaire and not appreciating it. I think that's just silly talk. How many Left Tackles go into Free Agency **PLANNING** on giving their team a GREAT DEAL because of what they were paid the PAST 4 years?

I'll answer that: N-O-N-E!

It's a ridiculous comment and a non-argument. **ALL THESE GUYS** are seeking gigantic new deals and MAINLY interested in getting themselves and their family the best possible deal.

Just stop it with the silly talk!

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