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Team of free agents can win, but will they?

I watched the replay Saturday of the infamous Tuck Rule game from back in January 2002. (Yes, I have no life). Anyway, that game between the New England Patriots and Oakland Raiders which the Patriots won in overtime and used as a springboard to beating Pittsburgh in the AFC Championship and St. Louis in the Super Bowl got me thinking.

As I watched, it seemed everywhere I looked I saw players that the New England Patriots did not draft. I saw free agents all over the field. I saw a team that clearly stomped all over the theory that championship squads must be home grown via the draft.

Consider the free agents on the Patriots:

RG Joe Andruzzi: He was picked up on waivers from Green Bay in 2000. He signed with the Patrtiots. He started every game at right guard in 2001.

LG Mike Compton: He left the Lions and signed with the Patriots as an unrestricted free agent in 2001. He started all 16 games and in the playoffs. So, yes, the Patriots starting offensive line had a couple of free agent starting guards.

Linebacker Bryan Cox: Yes, that Bryan Cox. After leaving the Dolphins and the Bears, Cox spent three years with the Jets. Then the Patriots picked him up in 2001 and he started seven games and played in 11. He had three fumble recovers and two forced fumbles and he scored a TD. The guy was in decline but he always had been a playmaker.

Running back Antowain Smith: He was originally drafted by the Bills. He was added as an unrestricted free agent and led the team by rushing for 1,157 yards. He'd been considered something of an enigma in Buffalo. He was a locker room leader in New England.

Linebacker Mike Vrabel: The Pittburgh Steelers drafted him but let him go to New England as an unrestricted free agent. So much for that theory that the Steelers don't let good players go in free agency. Vrabel started 12 games and had three sacks with two interceptions in 2001. He got better later and had three Super Bowl rings with New England before he went to Kansas City in 2010.

Linebacker Roman Phifer: Originally the 31st overall pick in St. Louis in 1991, Phifer went to the Jets as a UFA and signed a three-year deal through the 2001 season. He was, however, cut after the 2000 season and the Patriots signed him to a one-year minimum salary deal. Phifer started all 16 games. He was re-signed after the season for three more years. He was a Pro Bowl alternate two of those three years.

Cornerback Terrell Buckley: The former Packer and former Dolphins joined the Broncos for one season in 2000 and then went to New England when he was cut. He played with the Patriots in 2001 and 2002. He was the team's nickel cornerback and had an interception in the AFC title game against Pittsburgh that helped New England go to the Super Bowl.

Tight end Jermaine Wiggins: Another Jets castoff, Wiggins signed as a free agent in 2000 and lasted through the 2002 season. He also had a big game in the Tuck Rule game.

Cornerback Otis Smith: He played for the Patriots in 1996 but left to join the Jets for three years. Then he returned as an unrestricted free agent in 2000. He started 15 of 16 regular season games and throughout the playoffs.

Linebacker Larry Izzo: He was an undrafted free agent who made the Dolphins in 1996 and stayed through 2000. The Patriots signed him in 2001 as an unrestricted free agent. There he became the special teams captain and won three Super Bowl rings. He recovered two fumbles in the Tuck Rule game. Two.

Wide receiver David Patten: The Cleveland Browns cut him after 2000. The Patriots picked him up in 2001 and he started 14 games. He was the club's leading receiver in the Tuck Rule game.

No, this is not a Patriots blog. But I happily use the Patriots to prove the point that a team can be brought together from other teams and turned into a cohesive, high-caliber ballclub.

And, yes, that leads me to the Dolphins.

As you know they've been doing work this offseason in free agency. No, they probably haven't done as much as I'd like. The flirtation with Elvis Dumervil which I reported last Tuesday and the Denver Post reported Friday didn't bear fruit. Dumervil signed with Baltimore Sunday and his salary cap number for 2013 is, get this, $2.5 million.

So the Dolphins still have work to do finding more pass rush, adding a cornerback and possibly a defensive tackle. The offensive line is still in need of an upgrade, too. Eric Winston is still a possibility. He'd like to play for the Dolphins, according to his agent Drew Rosenhaus, but would also like to get paid so there's that. The Dolphins may be waiting for the price on Winston to drop somewhat.

The Dolphins may add one or two more free agents.

And that brings up the question whether a team can win with a bunch of recently added veterans? Obviously, I just showed you the Patriots did it.

But I saw Don Shula not only fail to do it in 1995, it was something of a chemistry nightmare. And the following year I remember Jimmy Johnson cleaning house and telling me he didn't want veterans who learned to do things under different coaches to come to him and expect him to do what they were used to.

"I want rookies and players I draft to learn to do things the way I want them to," Johnson said. "I don't want to deal with fighting the veterans."

Well, the Dolphins have some new veterans now. And now it's up to coach Joe Philbin to get them to do things the way the Dolphins do things or he'll have to adjust to them.

Philbin isn't talking like he's the one who will be making the adjustment.

“They’ve got to get acclimated," he said. "We hopefully, in 13 months, we’ve been able to establish a culture and environment, an atmosphere of how we do business when they walk into that door. While these guys are veterans and we’re certainly looking for them to put their stamp on things and make an impact, they’ve got to kind of fit into how we do things. So I think it’s more them, at least, understand these are responsibilities, the obligations that come with being a Miami Dolphin and kind of fall in line and then let their football stuff care of itself."

It'll be interesting to see how that goes.

 

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Odins hit th crackpipe again, You see the cut paste and drivel assaults cranking up. LOL....

This is my real name. I'm from Cabo Verde. You pronounce it like this WunTooTooFyVeeTree.

That was my version of what I see in Kelce. I have been posting on here for several months of players that I like. I like to look at player rankings and then try to find film on them to make my own opinions.
The thing on Hayden is just something I read, but I am excited about trying to find footage on him to watch.
One thing about Kelce that I did not mention and that he plays the game like he really loves it. When he make a play, or even when a team mate; does he gets excited. He has passion.


Father of the year takes the kid out shooting while he's high on morphine. Lucky you Child Protection Services doesn't blog here.

And you wonder why youre called CRACKHEAD! LOL...

Posted by: Yesterday's Gone 4Ever! | March 25, 2013 at 10:31 PM
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YG, tell everyone how long Mando banned you for this shyt, the first time you impostored me.

Tell the truth too, not your fantasy land bullshyt.

If you going all the way back there, you must be traveling back across hundreds of your fake names. I must have really pushed your bottons-LOL.

In Tony Speak/YG Speak, that means......Dooh!

Seriously you simpleton, look at what you do here by ruining the blog. It's not even sophisticated or hard to dream up names and Fvck with people.

Oh looky-look, you're doing something an inbred 5th grader can do. Props to you tough guy.

You sissy but pluggin punk. I would slap that last tooth right out of your mouth if you hide in your Mommy's basement you simpleton Troll-ROTFLMAO!

You sissy but pluggin punk. I would slap that last tooth right out of your mouth if you hide in your Mommy's basement you simpleton Troll-ROTFLMAO!

Posted by: odinseye | March 25, 2013 at 10:54 PM

Isn't this more garbage posting from you? How do you see this as contributing to the blog and not dragging the blog into the sewer?

Will odin ever ever see that 85% of his posts are tasteless elementary drivel?

Kris, you are a frequent converser with odin. Tell us in your humble opinion, what percentage of odins posts fall into the sewer drivel category? Dare you respond? It is for the good of the blog.

Crack has really fried your brain. You've had been endlessly cut paste and driveling about me the past few days before I launched my retaliatory strike last night.

Posted by: Yesterday's Gone 4Ever! | March 25, 2013 at 10:48 PM
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A retailiatory strike?

ROTFLMAO, yeah YG, except the things you post are made up fantasies. Have you lost ALL TOUCH with Reality?

The things I've posted were all true. They were all in respoinse to posts you made.

Did you not say SpOrano would be the most sought after Head Coach in the NFL? LMAO, see......YOU DID.

So you Retaliate(ROTFLMAO)by making up a bunch of Crack Ho Bullshyt? Can you get a peek of your idiocy yet?

Did you not tell posters that except for Odricks rookie year, that he had BEEN a top 5 3-4 DE?

Guess what Fantasy Land Boy, YOU DID.

So you biggums Tough MAN....YOU(snicker, snick).....you retaliate(LMAO)by making up bullshyt about Morphins and a Hunting trip.

Bhwaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaa!!!!

You may not see **It** YG, but I see **It** and all the other posters here see it. You got mad because I called you on your bullshyt Odrick Post. I even said, NO DISRESPECT and then untangled the bullshyt you were seeling the other poster.

So Mr. Biggums retaliates(Thats hilarious)by making up a bunch of bullshyt? I'm posting **FACTS YG-LOL**

And all you got is your drug and drunken induce fantasy land. One so sophisticated a 5th grader can do it.

The ONLT thing that would make this any better, is if I could get my hands on your cowardly punk a ss in real life.

What's your Mommy's address YG? I'm coming for you Biggums-ROTFLMAO!!!!

These are the FACTS YG, now go ahead, dive back into your delusions and denial.

Bhwaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

Kris, please, your opinion....Does odin's post at 11:05pm contribute anything positive to the blog or is it just more putrid base and vile drivel?

Here's YG's line of reasoning:

What? Someone just caught me making up total bullshyt claims about Jared Odrick?

Quick, make up something about Crack and all kinds of BS. Try to distract everyone away from my complete bullshyt lies.

Oh I hate it when I get totally exposed as a fraud.

Quick, make up some fake names to agree with myself on some more made up fantasies.
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But them again YG, it IS what all of us expects from someone idiotic enough to claim/believe that SpOrano would be leading Teams to Super Bowl victories.

PS: Look at that YG, I didn't even have to make up one fantasy Land Lie to make you look like the idiot you are.

Hey EVERYBODY, "BODINE" is really REALLY not YG using a Fake Name.

I just wanted to make sure everybody knew that.

(ROTFLMAO, even an inbred 5th grader-SMH-LOL)

Odin very well may be an 8yo in an old geezers body. It is kinda scary. Like a kid he is in this mode 'well you said this because I said that and blah blah blah I'm right' - followed by high school locker room types of immature perverted attacks.

YG seems to need psychological evaluation, but he's not the only one.

Bodine, why would you care?

Why are you sticking up for YG?

Why have we never seen your name before.......well, before YG disappeared a few minutes ago?

(SMH at the Inbred 5th Grader-lol)

By best estimation says YG shows back up right about.....NOW!

ROTFLMAO!

Dolphins are a team based on and run by money/power grubbing rodents that care little of winning and a lot about filling their pockets and enlarged egos.

Sorry about earlier Fins Of Fury. Those were some good posts. Good enough to make me want to check Kelce out.

If you're still out there, I'll get you my YOUTUBE view of him shortly.

The TrollTard here tries to Box Me out every time he sees my posts. I call him on his REAL-OWN posts. So he......watch out........watch out now......he retaliates -ROTFLMAO, by making up a bunch of squirrely nonsense.

Let me know if you're there?

Amazing how you seem so blissfully unaware of this even though Salguero has called you out and COMPLETELY ignores your questions whenever he has a live blog.

Posted by: You Would Go First | March 25, 2013 at 10:43 PM
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Give this crap up too. First off, I don't have the Hots for Armando like you obviously do. So I wouldn't care if he responds to me or not.

For the record however, he has ALWAYS responded too me from time to time during the live blogs.

The fact is, and this destroys your insinuation, I have Hopper on my TV system so I can pause and fast forward through commercials. I haven't live blogged games for over a season and a half because I'm often not in "Real Time".

All the regulars here know this as well. Sooooooooo......NOT EVEN a nice try Fella.

I like Kelce at TE. I have favorites at the other positions of need for our boys.

Hi there OdinDashi!

I made a post, but it did not make it through.
It was a benign comment it perspective to the recent commentary. Perhaps this line of commentary is what the current clientele are drown to.

The more I read these comments, the more I am convinced that this is the best blog in the AFC East. I see a bunch of undercover Patsies, Wets, and HillBillies fans infiltrating our Fins blog.

I'm not defending anybody. I'm trying to get your blindeye to recognize just how much you pollute this blog with drivel and waste. You don't get it. Your constant cut and pasts and monkey buoy's and bwaaahas in response to countless posts are terribly annoying and plain stupid. You bring the content level of this blog way, way down...along with some of your loverboys.

Bodine, you know what goes on here and you seem to have my nuances down perfectly.

Yet we've NEVER seen your name before.

Bhaaaaaaaaaaaant! Proof positive you're a Fvcking idiot right there.

Dude, your ignorance is epic, your sign in name alone is a testament to your trolling bullshyt. Sorry butt munch but the good posters here are not as STUPID AS YOU.......OBVIOUSLY.

You and your fake names are whats bringing the blog down, you are the waste and drivel, YOU are the pollutant.

Grow up and grow a pair. Christ almighty......are you an INBRED 5th grader?

STFU with your old, tired boring crap.

Puh-Fvcking-Lease Already. Your obviously a Glutton for punishment. They way I hand you your ass every night and you're still here? A sadist no doubt.

(PS: Suck My Monkey Punk! Bhwaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaaaaa - ROTFLMAO - LMAO and a LOL too!)

I'VE BEEN ONE OF IRELAND(JEFFY)'S BIGGEST CRITICS BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW I THINK HE HAS DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB OF SIGNING GOOD YOUNGER VETERANS AS WELL AS GETTING 11 DRAFT PICKS. DE,OT.CB STILL REMAIN A NEED BUT THOSE POSITIONS HAPPEN TO BE DEEP IN THE DRAFT. IF HE IS HEALTHY I HOPE THEY SIGN GRIMES BECAUSE THIS IS AN UPGRADE FROM SMITH. NOW AS FAR AS THE PATRIOTS GO! I AGREE THAT THEY HAVEN'T WON SH.. SINCE THEY GOT BUSTED CHEATING. THE ONLY REASON THEY WENT TO THE SUPER BOWL BACK IN THE 2001 SEASON IS THE NFL HAD IT OUT FOR AL DAVIS AND WAS NOT ABOUT TO SEE HIM GET TO A SUPER BOWL. THEN TO MAKE UP FOR IT THE RAIDERS COULD DO NO WRONG THE NEXT YEAR, MADE THE SUPER BOWL,BUT THE COACH WHO LEFT AL DAVIS JUST SO HAPPEN TO WIN THE SUPER BOWL. EVEN THE RAIDER COACH THAT YEAR SOLD THE TEAM OUT BY CHANGING THE GAME PLAN DAYS BEFORE THE SUPER BOWL!! ALL IS THIS IS CONSPIRACY? MAYBE!! BUT IT'S IS POLITICAL!! THE PATRIOTS HAVE ONLY BEEN GOOD AT SIGNING FA FROM THE AFC EAST TEAMS.ALL OTHER SIGNINGS ARE NO BETTER THAN DOLPHINS! IT'S BEEN HIT OR MISS. IT'S EASY TO HIT WIN YOU STEAL THE PLAYS FROM THE OPPONENT. WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THEY STILL DO NOT CHEAT! DIDN'T THEY WIN WITHOUT BRADY? YES! WHO WAS THE QB? CASSEL! WHY COULDN'T HE WIN IN KC? BECAUSE THE CHIEFS DON'T CHEAT!IF THEY DID THEY WOULD HAVE A BETTER HOME RECORD THAN THEY DO AND CASSEL WOULD NOT BE GONE! SO IF YOU WANT TO KNOW IF A TEAM OF NEW FA CAN WIN? THE ANSWER IS YES IF YOU PUT THOSE FA TOGETHER WITH OTHER GOOD PLAYERS AND ARE COACHED WHERE THEY ARE PUT IN POSITION TO SUCCEED. OR YOU CAN DO LIKE NE! JUST CHEAT!

Funny how I've been able to make Odinouche Bark on command..
Odindouche, You sir are a true "TOOL"
LOL At the "OLD COOT"...

BARK ODIN,BARK..

LOL


As a "hottie" I could have my pick of any number of intelligent, successful men. Guys who are really accomplished and lead fascinating lives.

The problem is, that's not what I'm looking for. What I want is to find a middle-aged (or older) jobless alcoholic who hasn't said or done anything even remotely interesting in the past two decades. The kind of boring, overweight putz who collects disability checks, drinks excessively and spends countless hours every week posting on an internet football blog. If they have the sense of humor of an 8-year-old, even better! Mature, witty guys who have their lives together are SO overrated!

I was told I might find the kind of loser I'm looking for here. Fingers crossed one will respond!

Posted by: A Hottie | March 26, 2013 at 01:17 AM


Now we know were Odinstanks beendinse 1:154AM..

Kellen Winslow, Please JEFFREY IRELAND!!

Winslow AND KELLER sounds good to me.

I still believe Ireland will use the $14m he has remaining in cap space to pick up one or possibly two free agents. Don't know why he would leave the money on the table. I know there are some 'experts' saying the Fins are making a mistake spending too much in free agency.

I disagree. The team needs improvements, big ones. The team managed its salary cap well and now has money to spend. As long as they manage the cash per year spend correctly and don't create problems for future years with the cap I am all for what Ireland is doing.

The keys to winning in the NFL: The ability to pass the ball and the ability to disrupt the passing game.

But....lets assume no other FA's are added until AFTER the draft. I would want to see Ireland take 'best availalbe talent' in rounds 1 and 2. Then turn to 'need' in rounds 3 and 4. Then turn to 'projects with upside' in rounds 5 and 7.

I'd like to see them land the following positions in the direction of the rounds mentioned below:

Round #1 - Tackle or CB

Round #2 - Tackle or CB

Round #2 - CB or DE

Round #3 - DE or TE

Round #3 - TE or G

Round #4 - G or RB

Round #5 - RB or DT

Round #5 - DT or S

Round #7 - DT or RB

Round #7 - RB or S

Round #7 - S or OLB

If we go LT, CB and RB first 3 to replace Long, Smith, Bush then we will have 8 picks in rounds 3-7 to try and improve last years team.
8 players from rounds 3-7 is an upgrade right?

I don't think they will go RB in first three picks. I think it will be:

T, CB, DE

or

T, CB, CB

I do think they upgraded this year in WR, ILB, OLB, and TE.

I think they will upgrade in T as Jake was on the decline with injuries.

I also think they will upgrade at CB as Smith the rest of the unit were pathetic last year.

Bush leaving hurts short term but I think the Miller, Thomas and Gray will prove OK. I'd like to see them add a RB in later rounds as a bruiser for 3rd and short conversions.

Based on the 'expert' optinions....I see these top rated players being available at #12. Who is the best fit for the Fins at that spot? I put a ** next to the three I hope they select.

Xavier Rhodes, Florida State (CB)***
D.J. Hayden, Houston (CB)
Zach Ertz, Stanford (TE)***
D.J. Fluker, Alabama (T)***
Menelik Watson, Florida State (T)
Ezekiel Ansah, BYU (DE)
Damontre Moore, Texas A&M (DE)
Sheldon Richardson, Missouri (DT)
Jarvis Jones, Georgia (OLB)
Kenny Vaccaro, Texas (S)
Eddie Lacy, Alabama (RB)
Jonathan Cooper, North Carolina (G)

sign more FAs now!

Has IRELAND lost his way & his nerve so soon after an initial, well-received flurry of activity?

MUST SIGN MORE FAs pronto, or fire Jeffy!!

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We do not have 1 starting CB on the roster.
We do not have 2 starting T on the roster.
If Tanne has no time he will never find Wallace.
Without CBs we won't stop anyone.
This is already shaping up to be a disaster. Again.

JPAO,

I believe Joeckle, Fisher, and Johnson are all rated higher thasn Fluker. I think we may have a shot for either Fisher or Johnson if a run on qb's happens like it usually does.

I personally like Desmond Trufant better than the corners you have listed. I could see him going to the Bucs at 13.

My personal fave would be Ansah but I wouldn't be upset with Lane Johnson, Dion Jordan, Jonathan Cooper, or Trufant.

Dolfan Rick,

I know that there are top/better T's (and other positions) available than those I listed. But I think they will be picked and gone before the 12th spot. I don't know that a run on QB's will happen. They may go in round #2.

I like Joeckle, Fisher, Johnson, Trufant and Ansah. Not sure if most of those will be around at #12. Maybe Trufant and Ansah....maybe.

Very good article in the palm beach post about Long's contract with the Rams (and all it's intricacies). Ireland was basically doing the same thing, trying to protect the team in case Long breaks down.

So, the choice at oline is to sign Winston as the RT (makes the most sense) and leave Martin on the left side, and I guess grab a RG to replace Jerry in the Draft. Or build the line through the draft alone. Few weeks now and we'll have the final pieces to this puzzle.

Definetely an exciting time fo be a Dolfan! Haven't felf this good about an offseason in quite some time. Winston (or Grimes) to go with 2 sure fire starters from the draft along with 2 or 3 other guys who, maybe dont start, but contrubute and develop into starters next year, and Jeffy will have hit a Giancarlo sized longball this offseason! Can't wait.......GO FINS!

DJ Fluker???

Big fat slow RT?? Not a chance.

Of the players listed, the ones that I think are a really solid fit are Sheldon Richardson, Johnathan Cooper, and Damontre Moore.

And I agree with Rick on Trufant over Rhodes given the defense we run.

Odin....

After I posted I didn't stick around....so I wasn't ignoring you....I just wasn't here...

Losing 7 starters....the worst offseason ever?

lol losing 7 losers that have been part of a losing tradition... BEST OFFSEASON EVER!

Posted by: Dr. Haywood Bates, LLC | March 26, 2013 at 07:55 AM

Yeah over pay for FA that are still out there 2-3 weeks into FA... think theres a reason that theyre still in FA 2-3 weeks into it? asking price too high? hmmmm Im glad youre not running the show

Hopefully i read that wrong and it was sarcasim

To all he thinks Matt Ryan is not good

So you claim he's not because he hasn't won a Superbowl but not many teams won a Superbowl with a young qb.One person said "how many weapons does he need" I guess it's his fault that the Falcons D couldn't hold a 20 point lead?

People it's a team sport

If we go into this season with Wallace and Hartline the season is already over.

Problem for the fins was their veteran players were producing subpar loosing seasons after another. Now at some positions they are younger, faster, cheaper. Do not go by the patriots cause they have this guy named Tom BRADY who is one of a guy type player at the most important position. For once I believe Ireland has done a good job, now if he could only keep it up!

The strength in the upcoming draft is precisely on what the Phins are in need. Linemen and DB's. So maybe, just maybe Ireland isn't such a Duma_ _.

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