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Ross: Tannehill-Moore as good at QB as anyone

PHOENIX -- The Dolphins are making a ton of moves in free agency and have more to make, accoriding to general manager Jeff Ireland who today opened the door on more signings, trades and then the draft as serious possibilities for upgrading the team in the coming months.

But, let's face it, the Dolphins are going to be only as good as their quarterback.

It's on Ryan Tannehill to improve dramatcially on a 12-TD, 12-interceptions season for the Dolphins to be a playoff team in 2013.

But count club owner Stephen Ross as very excited about Tannehill's prospects. Indeed, Ross spent part of his time on his private jet to these annual meetings watch Tannehill play at Texas A&M -- as a wide receiver. 

"This guy's an athlete and he's a very bright guy," Ross said in a meeting with the South Florida media. "You put those skills together, that's what really excited me about it. He as a person and what he's capable of, you put it as a package and people recognize this guy is winner. And complementing him with Matt Moore, I think we have as good a one-two punch at the quarterback position as anybody. He's going to get there. I feel confident."

Ireland wasn't ready to be quite so effusive but he didn't want to contradict his owner.

"I'm not going to put expectations on a young quarterback," Ireland said. "It's a continued development."

So I asked Ross if he really believes Tannehill and Moore as as good a combo as, say Tom Brady and Ryan Mallett. Are they as good as Alex Smith and Matt Cassel? Russell Wilson and Matt Flynn?

"I didn't say that. I said the comination," Ross said. "I don't know what they have behind [Brady] but the combination of working together and knowing we have depth and two fine young men, I'm very excited about that. Is that wrong?

"I said he's developing," Ross continued. "[Tannehill] is not there. It's only his second year. I see him doing it. I'm not saying he's going to be Tom Brady or Peyton Manning next year but he's developing."

Whatever he meant, it is clear the Dolphins are excited about the prospects of having Ryan Tannehill and Matt Moore back for 2013."

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Superphin, Jake's agent wanted 11 million, what did he sign for?? The longer FA goes on, the more their price drops. No one knows what Osi will sign for but you certainly just don't not bring him in.

use the money, we have a ton of holes. sign some more free agents

Agree Dolfan Rick.....

I usually forget to watch TV...and as a result...miss some shows I might have wanted to see.....so I have had the tube on the tube on NFLN for about the last 30 min....

just my luck...they are doing a behind the scens on the BROWNS....

talk about boring....

this is EXACTLY wh I rarely watch this stuff....

I dont want a quick stop gap fix Bobbyd12...I want someone that miami can build a future on and im not convinced that Osi would be anything like he was in NY....maybe his price will go down,maybe it wont but if im miami, and thus far they proven as much in their signings, getting younger is the way to go!!!!

The roster is what, 52 or 53? How many FA's do you want? What about our draft picks? If you field a team with a 50 percent turnover in players, you will not have success. And if those signed FA's are short term contracts, well you will be forever turning over your core roster. It's a recipe for failure.

I agree with Ross, we probably do have as good a 1-2 combination as anyone in the league. The problem is, that's not how the game is played. The elite QBs generally stay on the field and excel while they're out there, and lessen the need for a strong backup (nor does their heavy contracts allow teams to splurge for one). We have a rookie QB, with POTENTIAL, therefore making the team want to give themselves insurances he won't cost them too much, thus getting a quality backup.

All being equal, I'd rather be in the situation of having an elite starter, and a huge drop-off backup to having a starter/backup that are not that far off in talent or production.

But Tannehill has time yet, he's only in Year 2.

This is the Green Bay WCO , some pieces fit and some don't. Long , while talented is not a mobile WC OT. The Fins valued Jake but at what price. Last year they could not score because of no speed at WR and TE. They have taken some steps to correct those problems.

Manigold, feel sorry for people you man if you think that's how life is. I've known people who have served their Country their entire lives out of loyalty to their Country even though they would have made more and been much safer in life. Not all businesses and people are how you speak.

Posted by: Mongoloid | March 18, 2013 at 05:57 PM

100% agree...miami will just become a revolving door of taking other people off of rosters that have a 50-50 shot at filling their needs going foward...I have no problem with who miami has brought in at this point but with as much draft picks as they have..its time to look at future prospects rather than expensive or quick fix ones...

This team isnt all of a sudden going to be super bowl bound next year...Improved??? Yes!!!But dont go overboard especially at every bargain choice in FA that may or may not appear....these guys out there are available for a reason!!!!Just sayin!!!!

The music on this show suck....

my have to DVR it and then skip o the FINS part later....

The music makes me think somebody is about to ring a door bell....and then ask if somebody needs there pipes cleaned....

go finssssssss


use the money, we have a ton of holes. sign some more free agents

Posted by: dusty bottoms | March 18, 2013 at 05:55 PM

Dusty,

I love the way Ireland's doing this. He's filling a few holes with 1 yr vet contracts(like Clemons/Keller).

This way he can have a more permanent plan by using the draft. It gives the rookie replacements a full season to come up to speed.

I expect to see we could have 1-2 more 1yr deals where we use the draft to try and find the permanent replacements. Great job by Ireland thus far.

Superphin, signing Osi to a one year deal will be no different then signing Clemmons to one year. Doesn't stop you from drafting a replacement but it does give you a year to develop that rookie. No problem with that

ok yesterday now go sign grimes to a one year deal then


All being equal, I'd rather be in the situation of having an elite starter, and a huge drop-off backup to having a starter/backup that are not that far off in talent or production.

But Tannehill has time yet, he's only in Year 2.

Posted by: DC Dolfan | March 18, 2013 at 06:02 PM

DC,

When paying an elite qb 15-20 million dollars, you have no choice but to have a "HUGE DROP OF VET QB".

It's not by design, its what your salary cap situation demands.

We're paying Tannehill peanuts right now, so we can afford to have a "quality backup" like Matt Moore. There's good and bad to having a highly paid elite qb vs a qb in his 1st rookie contract.

IT'S CALLED GREATER FLEXIBILTY!

How can you count Ellerbe and Wheeler. That was an "OFFSET EXPENDITURE". We actually saved MILLIONS in 2013 cap money dumping Dansby/Burnett. So why are you people continuing to see this as a FA cost?
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Even if we sign a LT in fa, its going to cost 2-3 million less than signing Jake Long. Overall, our 2013 salary cap decreased as a result of these moves.
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So where the hell is the spending spree you guys keep harping about. Your arguments are totally baseless.

Posted by: Yesterday's Gone 4Ever! | March 18, 2013 at 04:51 PM
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YG slams the point home. Nice way to start off a new board!

Excellent Post and Point!

ValHalla!!!!


ok yesterday now go sign grimes to a one year deal then

Posted by: dusty bottoms | March 18, 2013 at 06:11 PM

Its going to take a minut to sign Grimes, dusty. Because of last year's achilles injury, we're palcing him underneath electron microscope before we get his name hancock in ink.

We need to be 100% certain he's at least 90% ready to go right now and will not be back on IR by game 2-3. That's the only holdup and we cant rush this.

Grimes does us no fking good if we'll only have him for 2-3 games next year. So the exam has to be very thorough and very complete.

Lots of crapologists here now.

thank u doctor

Dusty I agree about Grimes but the Achilles injury is a big worry. It takes a long time to heal. That said Dr. James Andrews seems to do all this repair work these days and he's making bionic men (Peterson) out of these injuries so who knows.

If they could sign Osi to a one year deal???Maybe..., but my price for his services would be a lot lower than what his value would be...and it was rangly known that he wasnt always the best teammate in the world for the Giants...I guess we'll see bobbyd, but I still think theres better talent and money spent in this years draft at DE.....

what happened to deciding between long and dumerville,lol


Posted by: odinseye | March 18, 2013 at 06:16 PM

Odin,

Ireland actually saved 6-8, maybe 10 million in 2013 cap space with the Dansby/Burnett, Long, Smith, Fasano moves. Yet all you hear here is "SPENDING SPREE".

Obviously those crying this are not math majors. LOL...

yesterday im not on board with them, but be real here dude they are talking total money spent. 26 mill for a mediocre guy wheeler, 36 mill for a guy who has started 6 games. pretty sure they are talking about the totals of the contracts

Too many dropped passes prevented Tannehill fron getting more than 12 passing TD's & I'm sure there was mass confusion rotating WR's trying to find what WR's could catch causing some of the 12 interceptions!!! Don't foget Tanny got 2 rushing TD's too!!! Now Tanny has some weapons to fire too!!! GO FINS!!!

Ant word on our compensory picks from the league


Posted by: superPHIN | March 18, 2013 at 06:21 PM

superPHIN,

Thats exactly why you sign players like Umenyuri and Keller to 1yr deals. They are a stop gap to develop your draft picks. Its never a guarantee rookies come in and make gigantic impact right away.

and many many dropped ints on thill, could of been 20 goes both ways

i get the whole get paid capitalist mentality and a understand an nfl players window to get paid is short, but why dont we hear MORE, " i went to the _______s because i just grew up lovin that squad." seems to me a love for the game brought a lpt of them to football in the first place. What gives? Does it happen and our negative media doesnt show it or what?

doubt it mark we didnt lose anyone good, maybe some 6th rders

This years BOLD prediction...

Tanne will be the NFL's most IMPROVED player.....

you heard it here first...

I'm ALL IN...on Tannefinn....

Posted by: Yesterday's Gone 4Ever! | March 18, 2013 at 06:27 PM

True..but i dont want guys like Osi to paid 6-7 million in a one year deal to be backing the bench for a possible rookie outplaying him in training camp thru the regular season either...it really would depend on his asking price and what miamis FO values him at....


Posted by: dusty bottoms | March 18, 2013 at 06:25 PM

Im sure Ireland and Coyle have gotten together and watched plaenty of tape of Ellerbe/Wheeler to decide if both are a go or not in Coyle's system.

Also Ellerbe's performance excelled at the highest level, the playoffs and sb. You absolutely can not discount that. I believe these moves are far from knee-jerk reaction.

But dolfans reactions to these moves certainly is.

Mr. Ross,
With all due respect, just shut up. You've already qualified yourself as a complete boob by endorsing Chad Henne and saying "I think in February, we will be playing in the Super Bowl,'' Jun 7 2010 USA Today.


I could accept your fanboy optimism in that regard, but I realized you were a complete fraud when the national tv cameras panned on you like a deer in the headlights eating in the owners box while your team was being dismantled by your division rivals in prime time that year.

Man you suck.

@ClaytonESPN: Updating from owners meetings, I think the Dolphins could offer a No. 2 pick to KC to land LT Branden Albert. They have 2 No. 2s
Plan B??

yesterday wheeler has never done a thing,. ellerbe looked great in those 6 starts but by far hes no sure thing

Manigold, feel sorry for people you man if you think that's how life is. I've known people who have served their Country their entire lives out of loyalty to their Country even though they would have made more and been much safer in life. Not all businesses and people are how you speak.

Posted by: bobbyd12 | March 18, 2013 at 06:05 PM


Bobby, then you've known some very stupid people. It's not likely any of them served their country if it was post WWII. They served Haliburton, GE, Monsanto, ConAgra, Pfizer, IBM...ect.

u serious bobby, ill have to get on kc radio here see if any talk about it. i know alberts isnt happy

Posted by: superPHIN | March 18, 2013 at 06:31 PM

If the rookie outplays these 1 yr vets, the vet get cuts before the cap hit kicks in. If these guys get cut before the seasons starts, its no cap hit to the team and these players dont get paid a dime.

i agree that miamis QBs are better than any combination that includes matt cassell or ryan mallet. if not for mark sanchez cassell would have been the worst QB in the league

not true yesterday, most of these guys like osi would want some guaranteed cash

kevin, brady-mallet is 1000 times better than thill-moore. lose the bias

The Fins Have The #2 And #3 Qb In The Division!! Agreed With Mr. Ross!! We Have The Best "Group" Of Qb's In The AFC And Possibly The Whole NFL!!

Love That Mr.Ross Is A Dolphin Fan First!! NFL Owner Second!!

Wish Gloria Was The Same Way With The Marlins!!

Posted by: bobbyd12 | March 18, 2013 at 06:34 PM

If thats true, I would definately be interested in that scenerio given that it would be a 2ND round pick!!!

agree with Dusty....@ 6:38....

yeah alberts would want multi year contract but he could be worth it, kc franchised him cause they are worried about his back problems. hes pissed

Good Lord, Just checking in like I usually do and I see YG4L has been on since noon(Will continue to post till Midnight)And Drunken Odinstank must have just woke up from his drunken stupor,Odinstank, Who were you talking to from 1am till 6 am this morning,Dude Get off welfare and foodstamps and get a job, And take your girl YG4E with you.

not true yesterday, most of these guys like osi would want some guaranteed cash

Posted by: dusty bottoms | March 18, 2013 at 06:37 PM

Exactly why it isnt a given Ireland would sign him. Thats why I said that Ireland would be willing to have a guy like Umenyuri come in, talk, kic the tire, then weigh value vs cost. You saw that Bennet quickly left town and he's younger.

I legitimately think Ireland believes in Vernon. Ireland also said that you can never have enough pass rushers. To me this means they have to come at a good value.

Mongoloid, I've served my Country in the military and I continue to serve by working in the civilian capacity. If you think money is the most important thing in life, well that's on you. I wake up and LOVE my job and know I make a difference in keeping drugs out of kids hands. I am proud of what I do. That beats a bigger paycheck any and everyday of the week IMO.

Hsd to put the TV on mute...and hit the CC btton...

horrible music....like playing a video game...

so wheres dumerville?

learned Nothing....

but wasted a lot of time doing it...

wht did I fall for this NFLN garbage...

later...

dusty,

What's Albert's franchise number?

Also, if were talking more expensive than Jake Long for a player with "known back issues" thats a greater gamble than Jake Long to me.

Then youre giving up a 2nd rd pick to boot? This sounds like terrible value in my opinion.

9.8 mill he signed it today


Mongoloid, I've served my Country in the military and I continue to serve by working in the civilian capacity. If you think money is the most important thing in life, well that's on you. I wake up and LOVE my job and know I make a difference in keeping drugs out of kids hands. I am proud of what I do. That beats a bigger paycheck any and everyday of the week IMO.

Posted by: bobbyd12 | March 18, 2013 at 06:43 PM


HOW DOES A PLUMBER STOP DRUGS FROM GETTING INTO HANDS OF CHILDREN?

BOBBY,TELL US HOW TO SIGN UP FR THE "DIRTY AMIGO GANG"////

Mongoloid, I've served my Country in the military and I continue to serve by working in the civilian capacity. If you think money is the most important thing in life, well that's on you. I wake up and LOVE my job and know I make a difference in keeping drugs out of kids hands. I am proud of what I do. That beats a bigger paycheck any and everyday of the week IMO.

Posted by: bobbyd12 | March 18, 2013 at 06:43 PM

You are lost and brainwashed. This war on drugs is a total farce. The government is 100% behind the drug trade for various reasons. You've served nothing but illusions.

Even if none of that were true, we are talking football. The entertainment industry. Jake Long is not saving lives at work no matter what. Can't knock anyone for going to the highest bidder...as I mentioned, these teams don't show any alleiiance to players so why should players show it to them?

I know, too hard for you to comprehend.

the big difference is alberts is actually good, long isnt. but i agree its risky, he missed 3 games last year

Albert has accepted his franchise tender, Mike Garafolo of USA Today reports. That means Albert won’t be a training camp holdout and will play this season for a guaranteed base salary of $9.828 million this season if he doesn’t get a long-term deal done or trade in the next four months.

Dusty bottoms, I wouldn't be surprised if that type of deal happens. KC can draft who they want and Fins and KC seem to have a good working relationship. If we going to use a pick to move up for Lane, certainly wouldn't be a big jump to just give up the pick and get Albert.

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