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Brady's doing it, but Tannehill and his WRs working also

The NFL was aflutter for about a day this week when the University of Southern California athletics department tweeted a photo of Patriots quarterback Tom Brady working out with new slot receiver Danny Amendola at the USC facilities.

Somewhere, Peyton Manning probably got to thinking about flying to see Wes Welker and matching Brady throw for throw.

Everywhere around the NFL fans were both impressed and depressed -- the first with the idea that Brady is already working on his craft four months before the start of the preseason and secondly, that their hometown QBs might not be keeping pace.

I know some Dolphins fans got worried.

I got emails from a couple.

I had some ask me on twitter if Ryan Tannehill is also working with Miami's receivers or whether he's vacationing and playing tennis as he did last week.

Well, relax.

Someone asked Tannehill about Brady putting in work and Tannehill responded:

"Been having throwing session (sic) w my wideouts for weeks now," Tannehill tweeted.

Within seconds of that tweet, one of the receivers apparently joining those sessions jumped into the fray.

"Ya! Check yo self!" Brian Hartline added in some unremarkable English.

(Just kidding, Brian).

And although I cannot tell you how many Miami receivers are involved in these sessions, or how frequent they are or whether new additions Mike Wallace, Dustin Keller and Brandon Gibson are involved, at least you can know that folks aren't just standing around watching Brady gain chemistry with his newest receiver.

By the way, Brady on Thursday did a session with Terrell Owens.

I would be surprised if the Patriots are going to sign Owens, 39 and two years out of regular-season action, to a contract. And I know the Dolphins aren't going to do it, either.

I say this because I expect those are the next questions someone is bound to ask.

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Orlando,

Not bad, what you've posted above. Not bad at all. I think I'd rather have a guy like Okafor in the 2nd than Montgomerie (who I think will be gone before the third) and I'm not sure I love Ertz. I'd also take a shot on Lattimore rather than Ball.....but all in all, not bad at all.

Craig,

Saying that Rhodes has the talent to be a #2 corner in this league does not mean he has no talent. However, #2 starters can be found in the second or third round. The distance between Jamar Taylor, Darius Slay, Jordan Poyer, Blidi Wreh-Wilson or Jonathen Banks and Rhodes is not significant and some of this guys are a better fit to play zone.

You have to put value on players. If he is available in the second round, then we should seriously consider him. At 12, I want a chance to get an all pro. The only ones that I see for us at that point are Warmack, Cooper, Vaccaro, and possibly Ansah (he may not be available).

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Bobby,

I'll trust Coyle to make that call. If they decide that Rhodes can't do what we need him to do then I'll be onside with that. But he's the superior athlete and I'm not sure why we would pass on a guy like that. I think this whole 'system' talk is way over-hyped. The guy's either a good football player or he isn't. Could be that the Seminoles asked him to do some very different things than what we would ask him to do. Doesn't mean he's not capable of doing it.

Orlando,

He won't be available to us in the 2nd. Who is saying that? I think a team like Atlanta would snap him up in a heartbeat in the first and I'm sure they'll be other teams.

I'm not why you feel he's a 2nd round player or a second corner back. This guy is a day one starter as far as I'm concerned and has the athleticism to be a top corner in the NFL. We're obviously not seeing this guy the same way.

Dashi, virtually EVERYONE expects the Ravens to be a much lesser team than they were a year ago. No idea why you'd be proclaiming the 'I told you so' mantle over something expected by most.

Craig,

You are probably right that Montgomerie may be gone before the 3rd round. However, Montgomerie may be off the board for a while for some teams though, there is a lot of concern by the fact that he admitted not to playing hard in all of his games. I am just hoping that he falls to us somehow in the 3rd round. I saw several LSU games and I actually liked him more than Mingo. I don't know much about Okafor.

I also like taking a chance with Lattimore, given the that we have good depth at that position (Miller, Thomas, and Gray), we can afford to wait a year for him to heal. However, when you look at Ball's highlights he was a work horse for Wisconsin. My only concern with Ball is that he has a ton of carries (but may be worth selecting in the 4th round).

Ertz may actually be gone at the slot a put him in but this is a good draft year for TEs. Escobar, Simms, McDonald and Reed are other options. I do like Ertz, he had great measurables at the combine and very good college year.

...Is it possible that the team is ok with Martin at LT? I'm not. But it is a bit bizzare that we weren't more aggressive trying to fill the void at this spot with quality vets. I know some of you think that Albert is flawed, would be expensive..The whole shebang. But if we were really desperate..I think we would have made a deal by now.

This brings us to the draft. Of course LT may come into play. Perhaps Ireland is comfortable with a guy outside of the first round(if we do not have an opportunity to draft a LT in the first round).Perhaps the teams evaluations say that if there is an available LT @ 12 that another position has graded out higher and that is the direction we will go? Tons of scenarios.

..Ireland has talked about adding difference makers. I know LT makes a difference by protecting your quarterback. But I'm thinking he means guys who can turn the tide of a game by making a play. To me, this comes down to 4 positions. Corner, pass rusher, Saftey, WR. These fit the criteria for what Ireland has been talking about all offseason.

Any of these positions I would be Ok with. WR being the least, and most unlikely. Especially if the pick is WR Patterson. I just don't see it. I know the "experts" say different. But from what I have seen. He drops a ton of balls, he wasn't the go to guy in big situations(Justin Hunter)..He was a guy that made big plays at inconsequential moments. Not worthy of our 12th pick. Just my opinion.

Know not much about CBs. Never liked them. They are not Big Playmakers. Anybody remember the CBs from the Dolphins SB Teams? How about their Safeties? Ahhh...

I think dashi also predicted Buffalo won't win the SB this year.

Orlando,

I will agree with you that the secondary could be improved with the addition of a guy like Vacarro. He's a dynamic player. I like this guy a lot. I wouldn't be disappointed if we added him at 12. He would help the CB play. But we would still need another corner at some point too. I'd be OK with this but I also think Rhodes is going to be a very good player too. We lost two athletic guys in Smith and Davis, nothing wrong with adding another one. Grimes is on a 1 year contract and we're pretty thin back there. So we could go a number of different ways.

We want no boring Players here even if good. We want Gamechangers.

Jake Scott?????

Craig,

Rhodes does not fit what we are trying to do here which would worry me if Ireland does pick him that high. He is a man to man cover corner. Again, I don't see a huge difference between him and 10 other corners. Here is what NFL.com scouting report had to say about him:

“Just don't ask him to play in zone, because Rhodes shows tight movements when forced to pass receivers to a separate area.”

Dashi is Claiming They Will Suck. Worst Team In The Division.

Not Just They Will Be Worst.

I'm Being Modest With 8-8!! I Did Say 2 Years. Not Just This Season.

If The Ravens Go 5-11 This Year. That Would Be A Good Season. If they go 8-8 Next Season that will be a Miracle.

Again, I'm done Speaking About The Ravens. Because Some Of You Think when Dashi Criticizes Something He Is Just Hating. Dashi Just Knows.

And Dashi Knows That Flacco Can't Carry A Team.

For LT we won't settle for anything less than another Anthony Munoz. For CB, we might do with Revis.

Rhodes does not fit what we are trying to do here which would worry me if Ireland does pick him that high.

Posted by: Orlando Dolphan | April 07, 2013 at 03:18 PM

Do you really think you know better than Ireland as to what we are trying to do? Do you really think Ireland doesn't know every single thing you know about these players abilities and 10 times more?

We ARE the Best of the Very Best here. We expect =.

The reason I say that I worry, is that if Ireland takes a man to man cover corner, he would not be picking the players that fit Kevin Coyle's defense. That would seem to indicate that Ireland and the coaching staff are not on the same page.

Again I am going by what the draft experts are saying. I also don't remember Rhodes being considered elite during his college career. He only had 3 interceptions last year and had very few high tackle game outings. His size and speed elevate his draft status but as Philbin said about Clyde Gates, can he play?

I think it was actually Armando that 1st reported that the Dolphins aren't interested in Rhodes because he doesn't fit what they're trying to do now.

Seriously though, I woudn't listen to what any of these teams are saying right now. No telling what they are actually thinking.

Btw, the Raiders release former 8th overall pick Mcclain today. Just goes to show there is no such thing as can't miss.

Some of you act like Ireland lives in a cave with no resources for information.

He is light years ahead of all of you. There is not one single thing any of you ever think of that he hasn't already analyzed 100 times. He is at this 60 hours a week 365 days a year and not to mention he has his own personal scout team with tons of inside sources.

All's you guys have is a few media heads that get paid to write analysis, not pick players for any team.

If Ireland picks a guy, you can be absolutely certain the player has been discussed thoroughly with the coaching staff.

The very last thing anyone should be worrying about is Ireland not understanding what we are trying to do. He knows better than every single person on earth outside the organization.

I just find it absolutely preposterous that some of you could actually think you have a better idea of what we are trying to do than our GM does. Or that you could be concerned our GM doesn't know what we are trying to do.

I mean really. Think about that.

Orlando,

I trust Coyle, Philbin and Ireland to make the right call on guys like Rhodes and you should too. What you gave us from NFL.com is just one person's opinion. There are a TON opinions on these guys out there and not all of them correct. For example, I just read Omar's take on Vacarro, while there are many who love him. Somebody's going to be right nad somebody's going to be wrong. It's all just opinion at this point. I for one happen to think Rhodes would be just fine playing in a zone system but if the team passes on him we'll know why.

Orlando,

That Does Look Like A Good Mock. It Allows Ireland To Hit Needs While Also Getting Value.

Not Big On M.Ball. He Ran For A Bunch Of Yards But That Is The Offense They Run.

Agreed On Rhodes. I Love Watching Him Play. But Zone Coverage Might Be His Weakness. Athletic/Physical Ability Is Only Half The Equation. Smarts Is The Other Half.

Philbin has a Saying, We want Good Smart Football Players. Smart Being One Of The Key Words.

T-Hill Is Pre-Med. Martin Went To Stanford.

The Ability To Retain Info (Being Smart) Is Important To Philbin.

I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night.

I agree that this is Ireland's job but GMs get fired too and this is a show me year for him. Just about every draft expert out there is saying the same thing about Rhodes being just a man to man cover corner and that he struggles or may struggle playing zone. This would mean that Ireland is going against the grain and taking Rhodes because he thinks that he can learn to play zone. That sounds like a gamble.

BTW- We have the right to give our opinion if we want. We actually go by what we see on TV, and what draft experts say. This is all for fun, if we are wrong about players who cares and most will not even remember. Most of us have our day jobs and this is just a hobby. I am not a huge fan of Rhodes but if we draft him and he turns out to be the next Dion Sanders I will be his #1 fan.

Dolfan Rick,

Great post @3:36pm. A lot of great points.

I was really high on McClain when he came out. I gotta be honest, I still like the guy. I know he hasn't delivered as an 8th overall pick, but stubbornly I'd still want to take a chance on him. It's the Raiders and it's not exactly the best environment for players. Problem is, I'm just not sure he'd fit here. But I still like the guy.

Hey, Ireland is as clueless a GM as there is.

I agree we can only make guesses, not even educated guesses, as to what our system really is. These coaches have said time and again you make the system fit your players and not the other way around. Philbin said that early on.

When was the last time any of us have sat down to discuss player acquisition with Philbin, Coyle, or Sherman? I'd have to believe Ireland and some of his scouts do all the time.

I don't worry for a second that Ireland doesn't know what the coaches want. I'd bet my dime all of these FA moves were made in total cooperation with the coaching staff.

The Dullfins change systems as often as they change players. Nothing works with Irescum lol.

Orlando,

I'm not sure why you say 'Ireland is going against the grain with Rhodes'. Has he even expressed that he has an interest in Rhodes or that he might be the pick? We have a need at the position, I'm not sure why we wouldn't be interested. He's considered one of the best avaialble at the position. Should we not look at him because people say he struggles in zone?

And I don't even understand that point? Don't the Seminoles play more of a man coverage? So that's what they've asked him to play. Where's the proof that he'd struggle to play in a zone if he's never played in it. I've read this more than once from the experts too and I'm not understanding how a guy 22 years old is already stereotyped.

Most likely my issue is with these so-called experts but I'm addressing it with you.

Maybe Rhodes cant play zone defence because he's never been asked to play that scheme?

If Rhodes isn't a great fit,why are alot of analysts predicting he goes to Miami at #12?

Personally,i think he's gonna be a star in this league and i'd be ecstatic if he's the pick...

Orlando,

Yes, our opinions about players is all for fun, and the pro's are wrong about it a lot too.

I just take issue with the suggestion that Ireland is not totally aware of a players skills far more than we are, or that he might not understand our system.

Dashi,

Like you, I am a big Vaccaro fan. I usually think that this is high for a safety but Vaccaro is special. I think that there is only 1 corner worth taking in the top 20 and that is Milliner. Vaccaro gives you a great leader that will help improve the secondary. I do not want to reach for a corner because it is a need. We can have the same value in the second or third round.

Mark@3:57pm,

I'd echo those comments exactly. I think this guy is going to be a star too. I don't get all the 'doesn't fit the system talk'. Does that mean the guy can't learn to play in a system? Happens all the time in the NFL.

Craig M,

I'd be surprised if Mcclain is unemployed long. Someone will give him a look.

He has struggled in coverage so far so I'm not sure he would be in our best interest.

Mcclain was not a good lockerroom guy and had issues with the coaches. Pass.

Craig,

I did not say that Ireland is going to pick Rhodes. I said that he would be going against the grain by taking a guy that is considered stiff by some of the experts and the consensus seems to be that we are going to more zone defense this year. Therefore, IF Ireland takes him he would be going against what the experts say about Rhodes. Or the fins are going to be playing more man to man. Again we'll see. I vote for Ansah, Warmack, Cooper, or Vaccaro with this pick but this is my opinion. I may be wrong about Rhodes but all I am saying is that none of the experts are saying that Rhodes is a shut down corner and that is the value that I would place on the 12 over all pick. If I am going to take a corner that high he better be Darrel Rivas or a shut down corner.


I think dashi also predicted Buffalo won't win the SB this year.

Posted by: Todd | April 07, 2013 at 03:09 PM
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That's not as funny as the time you claimed one of your predictions came true but you couldn't remember which sign in name you used.

Silly Troll.......Tricks are for Kids ;)

What experts? Who is an expert? Those in the media are nothing but entertainers. They are not accountable. They are wrong more than they are right.

The experts loved Jamarcus, best pro day they ever saw. The experts loved Aaron Curry at #4, another bust that was let go for nothing. Remember Gholston? The experts had Brady Quinn a top 10 pick. The list goes on.

Every season I scratch my head as to why the fans put any stock in the opinions of the experts. The media is powerful. They just need to flash the same few names often enough in the top 10 and everyone starts drooling for them.

The experts are those that have participated in drafts before or that get paid to evaluate players. Guys like Bill Polian, Casserly, Pioli have done this before. Kiper and McShay do this all year round. Yes they are wrong sometimes but the draft is not an exact science. Many pro teams make mistakes (not just the tv experts). Jamarcus Russell, Rick Mirer, Rolando McClaine are all examples of mistakes by the professionals. I still remember how my friends and I were celebrating when we drafted Yatil Green and he turned out to be a huge bust. Those experts are the best we have to help us debate but yes it is still a crap shoot.

Rick,
Staley indeed is a first rounder but the Niners were pretty bad until Harbaugh came on board. I remember Alex Sith running for his life a few years ago, so I don't put much value in Staley but rather the coaching staff. In the case of McKinnie, he wasn't drafted by the ravens, so someone didn't saw the value in him and he just happened to play nicely this year.
Not saying that we don't need solid LT play, but it seems that we're reaching too much and saying that Lane Johnson will save this franchise or tthat we're lost with Martin or whomever. My guess is that we'll pick OL for depth in later rounds but won't trade up or overpay for Albert.

We are all so hungry for football. The heat season is so long and it seems like there is nothing to play for right now for them. Baseball, well we don't really have a true pro team in S. Florida. So we are left talking about the same football prospects every day. This is the way it will be until the draft.

I can't wait until the NBA playoffs.

I'd take Irelands opinion well ahead of any media talking head. Those ex GM's are not involved with it day in and day out like they were before. Agreed though, it's a crapshoot for everyone.

I thought we'd go OT first. Now, I wouldn't bet on anything. I could see it being any of the obvious choices OT, DE, TE, WR, CB or S.

I still like Patterson. We need more playmakers than just Wallace and maybe Miller if we are going to compete with today's high scoring offenses. OT's you can find in every draft and every FA. Special WR's are rarely available.

Omar says Vaccaro puts him to sleep. Probably watching the wrong tape on him.

That's not as funny as the time you claimed one of your predictions came true but you couldn't remember which sign in name you used.

Silly Troll.......Tricks are for Kids ;)

Posted by: odinseye | April 07, 2013 at 04:18 PM

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This is not as funny as you thinking anybody here ever believes you have a hottie, maybe an old hag, maybe an old scag, maybe a fat cow...but a hottie???

Now that is FUNNY!

CraigM what I am saying is Trufant can b had later in the draft and some say better suited for our zone cover now Rhodes may b a great CB but there r at this point 20 or more better players than him. It is a crap shoot to say whos what but by most boards it would b a reach for Rhodes at #12 ( though I Hav seen a ton of mocks having him there at #12). I think we need a OT but the top 3 should b gone meaning we would need to reach for that position . There will be a top 3 passrusher and that would h my pick hope ur ?s were answered.

Where is he from, the Virgin Islands? That's why he makes so many mistakes.

BOYCOTT THE FINS UNTIL IRELAND IS FIRED! WE'RE SICK AND TIRED OF THE LOSING! WE'RE SICK AND TIRED OF THE INCOMPETENT CLASSLESS GM! BOYCOTT AND HELP MAKE THE CHANGE!

Ansah will b gone at #12 if the draft falls the way I Hav ( a draft expert and all lol) I do like a few passrushers in this draft the great thing is we can get the BPA and still hit a need lol.

You think these Dolphins media guys purposefully deceive on the Players they like? Not that most GMs around the League wipe their asss with their opinions, but the Media is a powerful Force. The Fourth Power.

DOLPHINS ZONE COVERAGE STINKS.

OUR SECONDARY HAS BEEN A JOKE SINCE WE LOST, SURTAIN, MADISON & BROCK.

KEVIN COYLE, TIGHTEN UP... NFL MEANS (not for long).

The Dolphins change players more often then oscar changes underwear.

Which zone is that, the loose one or the tight one?

But I do agree there are several pass rushers worthy of taking notice in this Draft. So do all of the GMs around the League agree.

The Dolphins change players more often then oscar changes underwear.

Posted by: Just Sayin | April 07, 2013 at 05:57 PM


THATS BECAUSE THEY BOTH STINK!!!!!!


What experts? Who is an expert? Those in the media are nothing but entertainers. They are not accountable. They are wrong more than they are right.

The experts loved Jamarcus, best pro day they ever saw. The experts loved Aaron Curry at #4, another bust that was let go for nothing. Remember Gholston? The experts had Brady Quinn a top 10 pick. The list goes on.

Every season I scratch my head as to why the fans put any stock in the opinions of the experts. The media is powerful. They just need to flash the same few names often enough in the top 10 and everyone starts drooling for them.

Posted by: Bodine

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Great Point.

This Is The Reason People Think T.Austin Is A Top 10 Pick. Or That Any Of These TE's Are First Rounders.

Only a Fool would think that Teams do not distribute the good Players among themselves BEFORE the Draft. That's Capitalism for you.

Not Defending Oscar.

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