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Coaches sometimes hurt the personnel process

During the Bill Parcells era the Dolphins did what most teams do this time of year. The personnel department tried to mesh with the coaching staff and come to a consensus agreement on the worth of draft eligible players.

This is an interesting shotgun wedding that occurs every spring because, let's face it, it's at some level dumb to do this. Coaches are paid to coach. They are paid to develop talent that is right in front of their faces. They are paid to maximize an individual.

They're not paid to project. They're not paid to evaluate.

Indeed, most coaches are not great talent evaluators.

Yet, year after year, NFL teams ask coaches to do the very thing they are not specifically paid to do: Evaluate talent.

And it has become quite clear to me in recent days that while the Dolphins personnel department of 2008-2010 had its share of misses, that was augmented by the fact the coaching staff was generally not great at evaluating college talent.

For example:

In 2010, the Dolphins were asked to serve as one of the coaching staffs at the Senior Bowl. Me, being a dummy, assumed this would give the staff firsthand knowledge of the players they were coaching and that would be a draft-day advantage.

Wrong.

During that week of practices, both head coach Tony Sparano and offensive line coach Dave DeGuglielmo fell in love with a guard/tackle from Mississippi. His name is John Jerry.

They liked Jerry's aggressiveness. They liked his punch. And because they liked his awareness and intelligence so much, they tried the player who played right guard and right tackle in college on the left side because he was smart enough, they reported, to handle the move.

Moreoever, Googs also reported Jerry had no issues learning quickly.

And so on draft day 2010, the Dolphins looked at their board in the third round -- the one that had tight end Jimmy Graham from Miami still sitting there -- and picked Jerry instead.

In training camp the team tried him at left guard. He was actually the starting left guard the first day of camp. And that lasted only one day because Jerry was a disaster there. He couldn't figure out the position at all.

And later in the year when Jerry's inability to get on the field came up in a conversation with a Miami personnel man, DeGulielmo, the same coach that months earlier had said Jerry was bright and had no issues picking up the system, reported that Jerry's problem was he wasn't picking up the system.

And thus Jerry couldn't do either of the things Sparano and Googs reported to the personnel department that he would be able to do. He couldn't make the transition to left guard. And he couldn't learn seamlessly.

Coaches hurting the personnel evaluation process.

Two years earlier, the Dolphins had been searching for a quarterback. And as I've recounted to you before in this blog and in my column, the Dolphins sent out Sparano, offensive coordinator Dan Henning as well as general manager Jeff Ireland to see, meet with and work out three quarterbacks.

Matt Ryan.

Joe Flacco.

Chad Henne.

And Henning, who fancied himself something of a quarterback guru, came back convinced, CONVINCED, that Henne was and would be every bit the equal of Ryan and Flacco. CONVINCED!

And he reported this to his close friend Bill Parcells. Sparano and Ireland had some misgivings but generally went along with that opinion as well.

Obviously, in hindsight, we now know that Henne isn't the equal to the other two because despite his fine arm and great work ethic and prototype body, something just doesn't click for Henne as an NFL QB. Something inate is missing. And so he is and will always remain a backup type while Flacco carried his team in the playoffs and won the Super Bowl and Ryan is among the top 10 QBs in the league.

Coaches acting as personnel men.

Why do teams do it?

It's interesting to me that personnel men don't don whistles and go try to coach players during training camp. Why do coaches get to play personnel men in February and March?

I will say this:

Recently, on my way back from the NFL annual meeting in Phoenix, I shared a flight with ESPN insider Chris Mortensen. We chatted about a number of issues and shared and compared notes on different things and one thing he told me perked my ears.

He reported that in talking to various NFL people the word he was getting was that current Dolphins coach Joe Philbin was gaining respect as a solid talent evaluator.

One source told Mort that Philbin is the best coaching evaluator he's ever worked with.

Now, that doesn't mean Philbin is ready to take over the Miami personnel department. Indeed, he still has to prove he's a good head coach because today his career record is 7-9.

But if the opinion relayed by Mort's sources turn out to be fact, perhaps the synergy the Miami coaching staff and personnel staff are forced to share this time of year won't be a hinderance.

Not like it was in previous years.

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Now this is an interesting article! Followed up one of your worst blogs with one of your best.

Good job Armando

If that doesn't make you feel good about the future, I dont know what will.... It's about time something went right for this organization!!!

Armando,

Parcells really didn't want the Miami job. Huizenga flung so much cash and disastrous terms at him, he would have to be brain dead to say no. Hence we ended up with;

1. Bill Parcells the lame duck football czar

2. Tony Sparano the oline guru, we found he's not only hc material, he really isn't oline coach material either.

3. Dan Henning the primordial ooze that came before the caveman offensive guru.

Just looking at all 3 of these situations alone was a marriage made in hell. There ou have it.

Oh, and Jeff Ireland. He seems to be doing his best work now that the above hinderances are now gone.

I echo Rdubs sentiments ...

Jose Jose ... sheesh

Matt Ryan? Joe Flacco? Chad Henne? Paaalease! Jake Long will have a better career than all of...oh wait...

Is This Mando's Way Of Apologizing To Ireland?

I'll Take It.

Mando, You Are Wrong Though.

Coaches Are Supposed To Be The Best Talent Evaluators. They Coach The Game!!

Who knows what a Football Player is Suppose To Look Like More Than The HC?

If You can't Evaluate Talent, How Do You Know Who To Start?

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Great Post and Better Than The Last One. I'm Starting to think the Meaning of the Last Post is to Show the Fins Aren't just interested in Choir Boys. They Are looking for Football Players First.


Sounds a lot better than what that blow hard Warren Sapp was predicting yesterday that Philbin and the Dolphins would have a sophmore slump and would not be able to beat the Patriots. I hope Philbin proves them all wrong.

How many coaches that are also in charge of personnel have won Super Bowls? I don't know but I doubt there are too many.

Case in point - Bill Belichek can't draft DB's to save himself. He has been a total disaster on the defensive side of the ball despite being a defense 'guru'. With Brady, he really has only himself to blame for not winning another SB in recent years.

Long may he last as the head honcho on picking players!

Where's all the 'Fireland' crap and 'Ireland has more busts than Dolly Parton'?

I've been saying for a long time on here that Sparano was part of the problem. It doesn't mean Ireland gets a free pass but as I've said for a very long time, 'he's not nearly as bad as people make him out to be'.

Sparano had first hand knowledge coaching the Senior Bowl and STILL f*cked it up! Henning had the experience and supposedly the knowledge to assess Henne and they STILL f*cked it up!! I've been saying for a very long time 'it's not all Ireland's fault'. Seems people are FINALLY starting to see that. Doesn't mean Ireland's a star GM or anything like that. He has the potential to be one of the better GMs. Most of you would have run him out of town 2 years ago and missed it totally. Who the Hell knows who would have come in and who knows what kind of job he would have done. We're on the right track.

And The Fins Have 2 GM's.

Ireland

And

Shermanator!!

Big advantage over the other teams. Remember what Philbin Said. The Coaches(Sherm) Already Scouted the College Players and they were just sharing/comparing Notes at the Combine.

We Did Bring Everybody To the Combine. Maybe Sherman wanted to fix a Couple things in Ireland and His Staff Process. Show them what to look for. Each Coach with 1 Scout, Sharing Knowledge.

Sherman doesn't want to cut Draft Picks. Unless, he has to.

It goes much further than that. Henning absolutely ruined Chad Henne. It was the inability of Sparano to hire an OC that forced Henning to work two years past his expiration date. Henne was actually doing pretty good his first year. He won a few games in the 4th qtr. He was never able to recover from the experience with Henning.

'SOUNDS' good...let's see if it translates. We're all so gun shy of good news here that winning the Lottery would be met with trepidation.
I bought into JJ initially - even at the expense of the greatest Coach EVER. And I knew that with JJ would come payin' the devil his due - there's an aftermath to everything he's ever touched. I didn't care - just wanted a SB title again. Well, he started the fall...quit & left us Wanny, which turned to lil' Nero Satan the liein', quittin' scumbag. Cammeron who was just lost & Fatcells who also quit after realizing he STUNK the franchise up for years to come and was too big a pussata to face the music.
There 'SEEMS' to be hope with Philbin, hope for the future...let's hope so. But today, it's all still met with VERY GUARDED optimism. I never thought the Dolphins I grew up with would fall to the depths they have - now it almost seems like even if they do something right it'll turn out wrong somehow. I sure hope the tide is turning, there certainly are good signs abounding.

I think Philbin is a great evaluator of people. Since football players are people, he should do well.
Listening to Finsiders interview our new players it strikes me that they all sound like intelligent adults.
So, if we lose, maybe it won't be because of stupid mistakes. A good blend of athleticism and intelligence should win. I hope we find it fast.

Mando, I found the Jose Jose article very interesting and Ravensinsider just reported it like he knew it first. I read it here this morning. So kudos bro.

Don't mind the haters. Only thing they can do is hate.

Difference between Spo and Philbin.

Philbin knows Dansby Sucks!!

I disagree with Henning ruining Henne. I watched henne play 4yrs at Michigan. Never understood drafting him at all. Gave it a pass only because I thought Parcells must know better than me.

Henne was not ruined. The same Chad Henne that showed up for at Michigan, showed up for 3-4 yrs at Miami. What Henne truly lacked could not be coached up. Something in Henne's mental makeup is what's lacking.

He has the tools and enough athleticism, but a mental connection to the game suffers somewhere.

Armando,

C'mon man you know the Parcells regime was horrible. Sparano was way over his head regarding personnel, talent evaluation, coaching or anything in the NFL. Look what Sparano has done since he was fired in Miami. Parcells is a dinosaur, enough written about big Bill.

Even when Henne did interviews, after listening it always felt like something was still out to lunch with this kid.

Yes, I believe he can be a capable backup, still I wouldn't trust him starting a 16 game season.

the moron leading the moron. = fatcells and spazano,
ya'll 'member dat pos st's coach boneregmo?.
lol

Spo was a Puppet to The President Of Operations. Sound Familiar?

Only Difference One Has Lebron James!! And Basketball can Be Dominated By 1-2 Player.

The Heat Are Loaded!! You can Tell by How Competitive they are even with The Big 2 Out.

Yet, The Rainbow Clown Of A Coach Plays Lebron and Wade 40 Minutes A Game The Whole Regular Season. And Wants To Offset it by having them miss a couple games at the End!!

That Is Like Having a Pitcher Throw 120 Pitches A Game For 30+ Games and Then Giving Him 2 Starts Off For The Post Season!!

When Lebron Is Catching Cramps In The Playoff's. Dashi has 2 Words For you. Blame Spo!!

Mando doesn't need to apologize to anyone, Dashi least of all Ireland. He's reported fairly the good and bad of the Dolphins. Until lately it's been mostly bad. Not Mando's doing. It's Ireland's doing.

Stephen Ross did not become a multi billionaire by accident. He knows what kind of people to help him build a business or an NFL franchise. Even with all of the bad press and negativity,he sood by Jeff Ireland,and now it looks like it will pay off. Ony time will tell.

athur blank, happiest owner in the nfl,
that fat pos balked at atl.
lol

armando, my crystal bong says that mccown would have lead the phinz to an 0-16 season and that fat pos would have resigned after just 1 season.
f'n farve u dik.
lol

Agreed With YG.

Henne Lost To Appalachian State!!

That Should say it all.

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FC@12:24,

Mando is Responsible for You Clowns Starting the Whole Fireland Theme!!

Mando wasn't allowed to Speak with Ireland Til This Past Season.

S.Ross has Publicly Called out Mando.

Mando, has Admitted To blaming Ireland And Not Spo'!!

Mando, has Always Been Extra Critical Of Ireland.

Yet,

Explain Your Side?

Dashi, you are usually on the mark. Today you are on drugs.

Just saying!

Where's Soiled Bottom?

H-ray @12:25,

Great Post.

Ross is a Business man who understands what it takes for a business to succeed.

We All know Wayne Huizenga Earned his Money by Other Means.

Mybible.com @12:40.

I thought you had to leave?

You've been doing a Good Job, Since Dashi put you in check this morning.

GO FINS!!!!!!!

"Me, being a dummy, assumed this would give the staff..."

Armando.... and you're paid by a newspaper to write in coherent English.

Here's the thing: I think we have the same problem at QB as we did with Henne. The "innate" ability is completely missing in Tannehill. He has no instinct for when to release the ball, throw it away or blindly put it where it needs to go. You could see that in guys like Flacco, Ryan, Brady and both Mannings from Day One. Tannehill also has no passion (I nearly passed out when he said on HBO he didn't really follow pro football and couldn't name which teams were in which divisions). Where's his intensity and complete refusal to lose? You see guys from the past like Marino, Elway, Kelly who relentlessly attacked no matter how far behind they were. Current players like Luck, Rodgers and Kaepernick have a spark you just don't see in Tannehill. Ithink we'll be burdened with a mediocre QB -- who wins enough to eek out holding onto his job and make us hope, but never wins the big, important games -- for at least two more seasons before he is deemed a complete failure and we have to start over with a new coach, an early draft position (hopefully) and perhaps, a shot at getting a real QB.

What's up Dashi !!!

We missed you over at Cote's blog amigo..hehe

are you guys finally realizing that Ireland is not as bad as you make him out to be?..Parcells ruined the Dolphins, that much is clear.

When Ross hired Philbin I was a bit skeptical of the guy since I didn't know him but I must say the guy seems to be the real deal.

Dashi stated this before we signed him, but now that we have Keller.

What Will Happen To J.Lane?

Keller and C.Clay can both Play FB. And Are Faster.

Keller and Clay give The Fins More Position Flexibility. Which we Need Running The No Huddle. We can Go From Shotgun To The I-Formation without Substituting anybody with Those 2 On The Field.

Do We Keep J.Lane Or Keep 4 RB's On The Roster?

Cause If We Draft A TE like Some of You Want. 1 of the Other 3 Won't Be on The Starting Day Roster. Unless, Clay or Keller play FB.

Did any Of you think of that while wanting a TE?

Or Are you just Playing Madden with the Fins Roster?

Philbin tells Ireland what kind of players they need. Ireland and scouts go out and find the best players to fit and be dependable and not have red flags....

FZB,

What's Up Bro.

The Road Was Rough, but People Are Finally Seeing the light.

You know its a War zone whether here or there at Cote's Blog.

Doesn't Matter Whether Talking Football or Basketball. Someone is always saying Dashi is Always Wrong. At Least Here People Come to an Understanding.

The Most Difficult People To talk to on The Herald are the Basketball fans. You know My Plight.

Not only is Sparano stupid, he was dumb enough to listen to the dinosaur Henning. You can listen to Philbin for two minutes and realize he is far more intelligent than either of those former bozos. I hope Mort's source is right and he is that good at evaluating talent. Maybe not all coaches are good at it, but it seems to me they should be since they put the lineup together and have a large say in the cuts.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the difference with this team right now is because of Philbin & his coaching staff. They've changed the culture with this franchise b/c they're competent. Wannstadt, Saban, Cameron, & Sprano were all buffoons as HC's & finally the clown car has left Miami.

1) Not overpaying for Flynn & drafting Tannehill who Sherman coached at A&M. That's Philbin. If we can keep Tannehill clean & he stays healthy I believe the naysayers in our fan base will look foolish.
2) Going after Wallace instead of Jennings. Who knew Jennings better than Philbin?
3) Replacing Dansby & Burnett with Ellerbe & Wheeler who are younger & better tacklers. Our coaches identified that our LB's were soft, missing too many tackles, & lost a step. I said it all season that our best tackling LB was Misi.
4) Letting Bush, Long, & Smith leave. All great decisions.
5) Signing Brent Grimes who is a smaller CB that excels in a zone scheme b/c that's what Coyle wants to run.

ROBERT....TANNEHILL DRAWS ALOT OF PRAISE FROM ANALYTS ON NFL AND ESPN NETWORKS. THE GM'S THEY HAVE ALL LIKE HIM....I NEVER HERD PRAISE FOR HENNE. T-HILL WILL BE VERY GOOD...

Craig, it would be interesting to know if Ireland (starting last year) while still trying to blend the talent to the system Philbin employed, took the reins, motivated from Ross' support, and took full ownership of all decisions. You're right, there were too many cooks in the kitchen in the past (Parcells, Sparano, Henning, etc). And especially with Parcells, his mentor, I can't see Ireland dismissing his suggestion and going a different direction.

But now, Ireland is the senior (at least in Ross' eyes) leader in the organization. He has the last word. Maybe he's dismissing suggestions he disagrees with and only accepting those where he's on board.

Very, very interesting times for this GM. He could come out of this year as the savior of a rotting team (if we turn things around, Ireland at the VERY LEAST gets as much credit as Philbin).

"are you guys finally realizing that Ireland is not as bad as you make him out to be?..Parcells ruined the Dolphins, that much is clear.

When Ross hired Philbin I was a bit skeptical of the guy since I didn't know him but I must say the guy seems to be the real deal."

FZB,

I'm realizing that Philbin will most likely save Ireland's job. If we can get the Tackle position shored up & stay relatively healthy I see no reason why we can't make the playoffs as a Wildcard team. The Steelers are a mess, the Ravens have lost too much, the Chargers have issues & KC is not ready to truly compete.

I think Cincy, the Broncos, the Pats, & the Texans will win their divisions. After that I believe the Colts & us will be the two Wildcards.

I really think this year is VERY Important. This is really the first full year for Ireland and Philbin to work together. First full offseason together with a full coaching staff selected by Philbin and a full scouting unit run by Ireland. First free agency and first draft where they worked together to determine team needs, identify talent and work the cap. First offseason with a QB they both selected.

Clearly Ross felt that Ireland should not be fully blamed for the combo of him, Sparano and Tuna. Ross wanted to pair him with Philbin. Let's see the outcome of their Free Agent and Draft selections.

Based upon their FA selections I am hopeful. Can't wait to see what they do with 11 picks and $14m of remaining cap money available.

Feeling optimistic....Go Fins!

Where's all the 'Fireland' crap and 'Ireland has more busts than Dolly Parton'?

I've been saying for a long time on here that Sparano was part of the problem. It doesn't mean Ireland gets a free pass but as I've said for a very long time, 'he's not nearly as bad as people make him out to be'.

Sparano had first hand knowledge coaching the Senior Bowl and STILL f*cked it up! Henning had the experience and supposedly the knowledge to assess Henne and they STILL f*cked it up!! I've been saying for a very long time 'it's not all Ireland's fault'. Seems people are FINALLY starting to see that. Doesn't mean Ireland's a star GM or anything like that. He has the potential to be one of the better GMs. Most of you would have run him out of town 2 years ago and missed it totally. Who the Hell knows who would have come in and who knows what kind of job he would have done. We're on the right track.

Craig,

B/c he didn't blow it by re-signing Jake Long or Smith plus he cut Dansby & his bloated salary. You tortured me for months about Long but guess what--in the end you wasted a lot of time on here defending a player that is CLEARLY on the decline & will turn out to be a costly mistake for the Rams. He's gone for a reason & when it comes to the O-line I trust Philbin's pedigree. Don't know who the starting LT will be this year BUT I'm confident that Long was not the answer.

WNP, I am no longer convinced that the Pats are sure locks. I think they have hurt themselves this year and have fallen back. Replacing Welker with a guy who has played 5 games in two years doesn't inspire confidence. I also believe they are going to miss Woodhead. Teams have proven how to beat the Pats and that is with pressure on Brady. I wouldn't bet money on them not winning the Division, but I'm starting to smell drop off from elite status.

NFL NETWORK saying Dolphins need another receiver and Hartline is just OK.

BRADY IS PRACTICING WITH AMENDOLA RIGHT NOW ON A COLLEGE CAMPUS.

TO TANNEHILL, PUT IN THE EXTRA WORK WITH YOUR RECEIVERS, U NEED IT FOR YOUR TIMING AND ACCURACY.

With the 12th pick of the 2013 NFL Draft the Miami Dolphins select Jose Jose!

Feliz Navidad Dol-fans

Is is just me or is the Dolphins new logo compared to the rest of the NFL Logos look completely out of place and as ghay as a unic in a whorehouse.

Mia has potiental to be superbowl contender.


How much do the Chiefs want for Albert?
Is it just a matter of buying out his contract?
Does Albert want the same or more than what Long was asking for?

Fins should get Albert IF they can get him for what they offered Long (or less).

Losing Long would then be a WASH.

Then get a top DE to finally complement Wake.

Parcells seemed like a winner before coming to Miami.His decaying/horrific negative metamorphosis was shocking.He did more to waste the Dolphins money on him and lots of bad picks.He seemed lazy,out of touch,indifferent, a poor communicator and arrogant...all combined as 1 entity.His demise in front of us was painful to be forced to take as fans.He had become clueless and old before our very eyes.He left quietly too too soon and seemed like he could care less and has never looked back after stopping off at the bank first...of course.He Parcells left as a "loser" and left the Miami Dolphins in major disarray.....to say the least.HE was a HUGE mistake and so so glad he s now gone forever from being involved.THAT is the current blessing Dolphin fans have now......that the Big Tuna is gone.It was good riddance and hope he stays out of sports.He s washed up and got nothing left anymore.

ROBERT....TANNEHILL DRAWS ALOT OF PRAISE FROM ANALYTS ON NFL AND ESPN NETWORKS. THE GM'S THEY HAVE ALL LIKE HIM....I NEVER HERD PRAISE FOR HENNE. T-HILL WILL BE VERY GOOD...

In fairness to Henne--he did play well in his first season as a starter. Unfortunately he never improved. This was the book on him at Michigan as well. Very good QB right away but never took the next step. Apparently not enough people in the Dolphin organization read that book.

Tannehill has more things going than Henne did in his 2nd season as a starter like better coaches, better weapons, & hopefully better protection.

jo jo,

You nailed it bro! Word for word.

I was always a Parcells supporter and big believer in him and admired his coaching style. He was a throwback but at the end he took the money and sucked at his craft and again Im still a huge Parcells fan but he was washed up in his last go around.

Miami need to select TE Eifert or Ertz... the rest are average or garbage. This guys will score touchdowns, win games, give first downs... what else do u need? This is PRIORITY.

1st Tyler Eifert TE Notre Dame
2nd Jonathan Cyprien S FIU
2nd David Amerson CB North Carolina State
3rd John Simon DE Ohio State University
3rd Ryan Swope WR Texas A&M
4th Xavier Nixon OT Florida
5th Bennie Logan DT LSU
5th Lonnie Pryor FB FSU
6th Eric Herman OG Ohio
7th Nathan Williams OLB Ohio State University
7th Knile Davis RB Arkansas

WNP, I am no longer convinced that the Pats are sure locks. I think they have hurt themselves this year and have fallen back. Replacing Welker with a guy who has played 5 games in two years doesn't inspire confidence. I also believe they are going to miss Woodhead. Teams have proven how to beat the Pats and that is with pressure on Brady. I wouldn't bet money on them not winning the Division, but I'm starting to smell drop off from elite status.

Bobby,

They've dominated this division for over a decade & until we knock them off the mountain they're CLEARLY still the team to beat. The Pats have lost CORE players on offense before like Branch, David Patton, Daniel Graham, Ben Watson, Green-Ellis, etc. but have always found ways to reload. It would appear that not re-signing Welker was a terrible decision but they continue to pull rabbits out of their hats.

We Need Playmakers,

You're right on with what you heard on Henne and Tannehill.

I watch a ton of college not to mention Im a Michigan man. Henne was so promising as a freshmen. I thought Michigan was going to win a championship his Senior year and the more the book was out on him the worse he got. He was good for demolishing bad teams and losing to good teams but would put up garbage time numbers to make it appear he still had good numbers. Was a failure vs ohio which is all that matters and lost the most embarrassing game in Michigan history which was vs Applachian St his Senior year.

When Miami drafted him I remember the feeling and it was just a feeling of nothing sort of like his personality. He did the same thing at Miami he did at Michigan which was great arm, size, but something like Mando said just never clicked. Lack of leadership? "It factor" ? I dont know and dont care. He got worse every year to me.

Tannehill is going to be good IMO. I don't know if he'l be Romo good or Rodgers good which is obviously a big gap but the talent is there the athleticism and "IT" is there. I just don't know how good.

Posted by: Dashi | April 03, 2013 at 11:59 AM

The more I think about this the more I like this article.
I played with coaches that fell in love with a player in camp but realize he wasn't the best player to be on the field. Look at college programs with coaches that recurit well, lots of time they don't coach all that great and vise Vera for great coaches. No disrespect to my college coaches but he was a hell of a recruiter/Motivator but his OC and DC where the one's good with the X's and O's

TE is one of the most important positions nowadays. See Dallas and Steelers have great TE's. Bellichick understands it and drafted Hernandez and Gronkowski.

We need to draft Eifert or Ertz... PRIORITY. No more old fashion Fasano or average. TE score touchdowns in red zone, move the chains... isnt it exactly what we need?

"You're right on with what you heard on Henne and Tannehill.

I watch a ton of college not to mention Im a Michigan man. Henne was so promising as a freshmen. I thought Michigan was going to win a championship his Senior year and the more the book was out on him the worse he got. He was good for demolishing bad teams and losing to good teams but would put up garbage time numbers to make it appear he still had good numbers. Was a failure vs ohio which is all that matters and lost the most embarrassing game in Michigan history which was vs Applachian St his Senior year.

When Miami drafted him I remember the feeling and it was just a feeling of nothing sort of like his personality. He did the same thing at Miami he did at Michigan which was great arm, size, but something like Mando said just never clicked. Lack of leadership? "It factor" ? I dont know and dont care. He got worse every year to me.

Tannehill is going to be good IMO. I don't know if he'l be Romo good or Rodgers good which is obviously a big gap but the talent is there the athleticism and "IT" is there. I just don't know how good."

Andy,

It's not what I heard about Henne--it's what I watched from Henne in college. I didn't go to Michigan but I watched a LOT of his games. Thought that taking Henne was an odd pick b/c he was inconsistent but after watching him in his 2nd season when he got a chance to play I thought MAYBE he can be the guy. Obviously I was wrong there. I also thought Brandon Graham would be just as good as Lamar Woodley. So go figure.

I think one of the true steals in this draft can be Denard Robinson. He can return punts or kick offs, he can catch the football, he can be used out of the backfield, & maybe on some gadget plays. If you have a creative coach I think the team that takes him is getting a HECK of a football player that is extremely versatile. B/c of his 'rawness' in the first three rounds but after that I'd certainly kick the tires.

TE is one of the most important positions nowadays. See Dallas and Steelers have great TE's. Bellichick understands it and drafted Hernandez and Gronkowski.

We need to draft Eifert or Ertz... PRIORITY. No more old fashion Fasano or average. TE score touchdowns in red zone, move the chains... isnt it exactly what we need?

Posted by: Jaimesolera | April 03, 2013 at 02:44 PM

Why do we need a TE to score TD's, move the chains? Are WR's, and RB's not doing that anymore?? Why are Ertz and Eiffer the only 2 TE's that can do this for us?

Tanne has 10 x the football it then Henne ever did any fool could see that last year. Give the rookie a break.

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