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Bryant McKinnie visit could signal legit interest, or not

I was told last week by a Dolphins source the team would have no interest in Bryant McKinnie as a left tackle option because ...

1. There were weight concerns. (He was overweight much of the 2012 season before finally getting in shape just in time for the playoffs with Baltimore).

2. There were culture concerns. (McKinnie is a vet used to doing things his own way. He's had issues with coaches before. Joe Philbin doesn't love that sort of stuff).

3. There were off-field concerns. (McKinnie hasn't been consistently in trouble with the law or anything. In fact, other than an arrest in 2008 in Miami for getting into a fight and then resisting arrest without violence while at a local club during a night of partying, he's been clean lately. The issue is McKinnie's penchant for partying. He has been known to drop $100,000 on liquor in one night. And, as a reminder, the Miami Dolphins are headquartered very near to Miami and South Beach),

3. He's going to be 34 years old. And if the Dolphins want him on a one-year deal, he's going to cost at least $3-$4 million.

So I was pretty confident the Dolphins wouldn't be interested in McKinnie because I was told as much and because of the reasons outlined above.

Well, Bryant McKinnie visited the Dolphins on Monday.

And aside from making me look dumb, the fact the Dolphins are kicking the tires on the veteran left tackle speaks to a handful of possibilities -- not all of them obvious to the average observer.

Possibility 1. The team is simply kicking the tires to see if McKinnie is even a remote option. The visit Monday was said to include a physical. It's called due diligence. It's a date. It's not a marriage.

Possibility 2. The team is trying to gain leverage as it prepares to take another run at Branden Albert. If general manager Jeff Ireland is going to go back to the Chiefs (again) he can't be perceived as having no option other than landing Albert. So getting McKinnie to visit is good for everyone. It gives the perception that McKinnie is an legit option -- even if he really isn't. And that's good for Miami. And it gives the perception that teams are interested in McKinnie -- even if they really aren't. And that's good for McKinnie's market. So feeler visits help everyone.

Possibility 3. The team is trying to gain leverage on Eric Winston. Remember that aside from looking for a left tackle, Miami has a choice of signing a right tackle and putting Jonathan Martin at left tackle. That would mean needing a right tackle. Winston is the most viable right tackle choice out there but the club and he haven't seen eye-to-eye on what it would take to make the idea work. A little leverage doesn't hurt that process.

Possibility 4. The Dolphins are seriously interested in McKinnie. If this is the option, then the Dolphins see McKinnie as a stopgap guy that played well in the playoffs even as he approaches the end of his career. They would be banking they can milk at least a year out of the guy. By the way, if this is the truth, then the Dolphins are seriously down on Martin as a left tackle option.

McKinnie, by the way, texted the Baltimore Sun and told reporter Aaron Wilson that the visit in Miami went well. Yet, no offer was made and McKinnie might take other visits, namely with San Diego.

Me?

I still find it hard to believe Bryant McKinnie is a Joe Philbin kind of guy. I find it hard to believe that Jeff Ireland, who doesn't like adding 30-somethings, much less 30-somethings with a checkered history, hasn't learned his lesson that it rarely goes well.

Remember Chad Johnson. How'd that turn out?

And having said that, the Dolphins indeed signed Johnson. So maybe they haven't learned a darn thing from such experiences.

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The Fins Look Like A 10-6 Team Right Now.

Depending On The LT We Get. The Fins Can Go 12-4.

If Carpenter Stays On The Team? 9-7.

Hireland..absolutely correct...shows a lack of understanding from Wallace...


...BUT..for some to advocate forbidding Tweet accounts because an athlete MIGHT say something stupid just isn't fair to the other guys who won't....

Competitive? WTH does that mean?

We were competitive in 2012 and only finished 7-9. 7-9 is competitive.

dusty,

A whole lot more than a LT has to happen to be 12-4. Mainly having an offense that's no lower than top 6 in points scored.

tannehenne = sophmore slump = 5-11 with mm winning the final 5 in a row after tannehenne is sent packing and the phinz will pix 10-15 again and still won't have any talented playas as usual and ross sells the team.
lol

WNP...right..that's why I am advocating a wait and see approach....

....I have difficulty understanding some of our fans who are down on Ireland, and seem to want his choices to fail..

...do they understand that if Ireland fails, the Dolphins fail along with him?

Just seems self defeating to me....

Competitive is only a hidden word that means "middle of the pack losers".

new gm pix jonny football and the phinz will now have a qb 2 win a sb since griese.
lol

If Tannehill throws only 20tds is highly likely we finish no better than 9-7, then narrowly miss the playoffs. To be a team that makes the playoffs and makes noise while in the, Tannehill needs to thro at least 25tds.

YG,

I said AT LEAST 20 TD's. Luck threw 23 TD's & 18 INT's & they won 11 games last year w/o a good running game. If Tannehill throws over 20 TD's & our running game is as productive as I hope it will be, then I believe have a good shot at making the playoffs.

kkk is pushing 2 make sept. white history month.

And maybe Armando you have no idea of what you're talking about but at least you lay out the scenarios and I think it's food for thought. Dolphins are desperate in a variety of levels, ie Fan base, Players wanting a winning season, Ireland his job on the line and Ross a totally clueless successful businessman who needs to go back to Real Estate....Dolphins need to sign McKinnie as he will no doubt help and maybe bring us over the top and we can forget the last terrible years...

db, 12:19. ditto

9 out of 10 of our draft picks will definitely make the 53 man cut. The only one I possibly forsee not making is 7th r'er Don Jones.

However, even he falls no further than practice squad. Possibly st's.

1-15 = 9-7 = no p/o's = no diff.

I just hope they don't plan on keeping Jerry at guard...He's not a guard...He's a tackle...

Posted by: #1 Dolphin Fan in Montreal | April 30, 2013 at 08:21 AM

He's also an undisciplined eater who can't pass up a tray of Big Macs, unathletic w/ poor feet (bad for a pulling guard), and a somewhat below average NFL O lineman, at best. He doesn't scare any D lineman or D coach. Hear he tried to drop a little weight coming in this season because he was reportedly in danger of being cut, but it's not enough and doesn't compensate for lack of ability. Cut him, Ireland, when u get the right side settled.

Left Tackle

At this same point last year, after free agency and after the draft Miami had glaring needs at WR, TE, CB, they were switching to a 4-3 and lacked athleticism and playmakers.

FAST FORWARD:
1. WR - check. Mike Wallace and Brandon Gibson
2. TE - check. Dustin Keller and Dion Sims
3. CB - check even if unproven. Jamar Taylor and Will Davis
4. Athleticism - check. Upgraded athletes and speed across the board at LB, WR, TE, CB

Now I understand how unproven we are at both Tackle spots but with the way this offseason has been handled, which I give Ireland credit for, I feel the spot will eventually be filled by one of these stop gap vets. Give credit where it's due this team has come a long way in just 1 year, upgrading.

NO YG..that's not the definition of competitive..


...why do you find a need to qualify words that other s choose?

I try to enjoy your psts, but you consistently seem to find a way to irritate me.

I'm going to blame that on my limitations, just as long as you realize that limited as I may be, I still have a right to choose my own words.

thanks...just wanted to clear that up.

new gm pix jonny football and the phinz will now have a qb 2 win a sb since griese.
lol
Posted by: 2 watt | April 30, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Do you often stroke yourself while stroking your keyboard? LOL...

WNP...right..that's why I am advocating a wait and see approach....

....I have difficulty understanding some of our fans who are down on Ireland, and seem to want his choices to fail..

...do they understand that if Ireland fails, the Dolphins fail along with him?

Just seems self defeating to me....

Exactly. It's f#cking dumb. And btw--If Ross wanted Ireland gone then trust me, he would have been gone already. Sparano took the hit for the team failing & Ireland got a pass.

Ross made a new start when he & Ireland were both involved in hiring Philbin. Now Ireland & Philbin are tied at the hip. Fans may hate this but we're not the owner & barring a collapse I don't believe Ireland (or Philbin for that matter) are going anywhere.

I said AT LEAST 20 TD's. Luck threw 23 TD's & 18 INT's & they won 11 games last year w/o a good running game. If Tannehill throws over 20 TD's & our running game is as productive as I hope it will be, then I believe have a good shot at making the playoffs.
Posted by: We Have Playmakers | April 30, 2013 at 12:20 PM

2 Things:

1. Indy should have been 10-6. Sean Smith lose a pick turn td in the lights. Dansby drops for certain pic 6. Fins should have won that game.

2. 23tds and Luck gets bounced from playoffs 1st rd. Royally schooled by Ravens playoff D.

"Free agent RT Tyson Clabo will visit the Dolphins Tuesday night."
Source: Jason La Canfora on Twitter
Apr 30 - 12:21 PM

Well, at least no one can say that Ireland isn't considering all of his options @ Tackle....

Tyson Clabo visiting the team tonight.

Not sure if this has been mentioned already. I saw Jason La Canfora put it up on twitter about 20 minutes ago.

Why do some fans so overcome themselves with what certain other fans think anyway.

Rooting for a team to fail doesn't caused them to fail. Their play on the field does. Exactly why its said:

"That's why they play the game!"

1. Indy should have been 10-6. Sean Smith lose a pick turn td in the lights. Dansby drops for certain pic 6. Fins should have won that game.

2. 23tds and Luck gets bounced from playoffs 1st rd. Royally schooled by Ravens playoff D.

YG,

I'm not denying what you're saying BUT the Colts did in fact make the playoffs. If we can MAKE the playoffs I don't see us faring any better than the Colts did.

Most athletes are Dumbasses.

I would much rather be searching for a LT or RT right now, than searching for a qb. Guess which one youre most likely to find sooner?

Again, how long has it been since trying to find Marino's replacement?

WHP,

Even with Luck throwing 23 tds, the Colts were still only a few lucky breaks away from not making the playoffs too. Two of them happened in our game alone.

PLAYOFFS??? LMFAO!!

If we make the playoffs, that is a milestone.

That would be changing the culture. We need to see a culture change on our team.

GO FINS!!! GO PHILBIN!!! GO PLAYOFFS!!!!

A few lucky breaks don't go the Colts way in 2012, and theyre easily 9-7. if not less.

Andy,

Do you understand why we're even looking @ RT's like Clabo or Winston??? If Ireland went into discussions with Albert's agent then my guess is that we're not sold on Martin @ LT. Is Ireland just playing poker & waiting for the Chiefs to bite on accepting a 3rd round pick??? The Chiefs may have to cave on this b/c Albert is going to be a MAJOR distraction there...

YG4E:

You mean Bob's replacement.

Well, we have questions at QB, LT, RB, and TE.

"If we make the playoffs, that is a milestone.

That would be changing the culture. We need to see a culture change on our team.

GO FINS!!! GO PHILBIN!!! GO PLAYOFFS!!!!"

Buster,

Agreed. Need to f#cking win to break the cycle. Again, a LOT will depend on Tannehill's progress & if he can take advantage of what's been added around him.

Yes..Playoffs!! Why can't that be possible?

Last year has NOTHING to do with this year. NOTHING!!!

That's why they make a new schedule every season; that's why you can't just show up. You have to play the 60 minutes.

NO ONE here, or ANYWHERE knows what the outcome will be, not Joe Philbin, not Steve Ross nor Jeff Ireland, and not the players or the fans.

That's why they play the game, to compete and determine a winner. Why not give this season a chance; why not give this revamped squad a chance?

To do less is merely closeminded and counterproductive.

GO FINS!!! BE ALL YOU CAN BE THIS SEASON!!!!!!

The Colts had 5 victories of 4pts or less against not so good teams. They were also completely destroyed by the Jets and Pats.

As I stated before, the Colts are easily 9-7 or less with a few "lucky breaks" going the other direction. In the nfl, you don't stay a good team for very long living off of "lucky breaks".

YG4E:
You mean Bob's replacement.
Posted by: JUSTIN CREDIBLE | April 30, 2013 at 12:39 PM

Ditto. LOL...

We need to see a culture change on our team.
GO FINS!!! GO PHILBIN!!! GO PLAYOFFS!!!!
Posted by: Buster | April 30, 2013 at 12:37 PM

Maybe it should begin with taking new fan applications. LOL...

I think the main complaint of Us who do here is that the Dolphins do not have a Polamalu, a Brady, a Ray Rice, a Star Gamechanger. And this Draft does not appear conducive for Us getting one of those, again.

The Colts had 5 victories of 4pts or less against not so good teams. They were also completely destroyed by the Jets and Pats.

As I stated before, the Colts are easily 9-7 or less with a few "lucky breaks" going the other direction. In the nfl, you don't stay a good team for very long living off of "lucky breaks".

YG,

What's your point??? You need lucky breaks. Didn't the Seahawks get lucky against GB last year.

And btw isn't Andrew Luck just going to keep getting better??? The kid is DEFINITELY for real so my guess would be yes.

I think the main complaint of Us who do here is that the Dolphins do not have a Polamalu, a Brady, a Ray Rice, a Star Gamechanger. And this Draft does not appear conducive for Us getting one of those, again.

Oscar,

How do you know that??? And who is to say that one of our rookies from last year won't REALLY step up this year???

Oscar,

I beg to differ. I believe we drafted two game changers on defense this year in Jordan and Jamar Taylor.

We signed one game changer on offense in fa(Wallace). Possibly drafted a future game changer in 2012 in Ryan Tannehill.

uhm, pass rushers are game changers...

This is an expansion team with 12-13 new starters. Expansion teams dont come near playoffs. GEEZ!

I mean now, People. Sure, THill has the potential to become a very good QB, but no Brady or Manning. In this Draft, I see Dion as a big Star or a big Bust, and the other guy is not the second coming of Revis. Of course, all this imo, but I'm sure many feel like I do.

Ok, maybe "turnstile" was the wrong word to use for Eric Winston. But like dusty can attest, he was HORRIBLE last year. Now, I'll defer to dusty since he's probably watched him more, but I think he was pretty good in Houston (and they use a zone blocking scheme too). So maybe he had a down year (I just know 2 QBs got killed last year in KC). But I still don't want to pay him top dollar.

Oscar

I think Austin is that game changer.

I also feel Hartline is bad for this team.

He just doesn't make plays.

Yes he catches the ball but every wr can catch.

My 13 year old can catch.

Posted by: We Have Playmakers | April 30, 2013 at 12:50 PM

You brought Luck into the comparison. My point is that you cant live off of "lucky breaks" even if youre Andrew Luck.

My point is, with less than 25 tds from the qb position, even if you make the playoffs youre not primed to do very much in them.

Didn't the conversation start because you said if Tanne throws at least 20tds, we make the playoffs, and my reply was 9-7 and narrowly missing them?

While also saying, I believe a qb needs to at least throw 25tds to make the playoffs and make some noise while in them. Luck did make the playoffs with 23td passes. But was as quiets as a church mouse pissing on cotton once in there.

YG, its just as possible that none of the 4 you mentioned are "game changers". Remember Chad Henne, P Merling?

We Have Playmakers

From everything I've read and heard is that Clabo was hands down Atlanta's best Olinemen all year. The reason teams have stayed away is because of age. He turns 32 fairly early in the season next year and with the way vets have had a tough time landing this offseason it's not a surprise. He supposedly wanted to be paid which is the same thing that blew up in Winston's face and almost blew up in Andre Smith's face. A Right Tackle is just not given the same priority as Left Tackle. The Left Tackles fly off the shelves where RTs are looking for homes still.

Please YouTube Hartline's highlights.

Lol

Then tell us what any of you see.

I will answer quickly.

A loser

Martin at LT is a turnstile.

YG, its just as possible that none of the 4 you mentioned are "game changers". Remember Chad Henne, P Merling?
Posted by: mike | April 30, 2013 at 01:01 PM

Its also possible that in another life you become a Dolphin player. How can you judge the "UNSEEN"?

Posted by: JUSTIN CREDIBLE | April 30, 2013 at 01:02 PM

I believe the line of thinking with the offensive coaching staff and fo is that Hartline should do greatly better against #2 corners this year.

Wallace stretches the field, so does Keller, and our big new TE also has ability to stretch the middle of the field. So Gibson and Hartline should consistently have "free lunch" because of these things.

After last season, Im not crazy about Hartline against #1 corner, but this year after that experience, Hartline should find operating against #2 cb's a breeze.

Why do some fans so overcome themselves with what certain other fans think anyway.
Rooting for a team to fail doesn't caused them to fail. Their play on the field does. Exactly why its said:
"That's why they play the game!"
Posted by: Yesterday's Gone 4Ever | April 30, 2013 at 12:32 PM
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Exactly YG...and to answer your question...simply put:
Because it is negativity. It is self-defeatist. A sports "fan" (short for fanatic) is a supporter, in the traditional sense of the word, not a detractor.

While it is true, one may be fanatical about their hatred for a team, or its owner or its GM, or even the entire organization, that, for me, seems an excercise in futility.

It makes me wonder if those critics even enjoy the game of football, because if they did, surely there is a team somewhere which they enjoy watching play that game, and whose play they would support.

Why, then, aren't they at THAT teams' blogsite, joining with other fans of that team, instead of spending time here knocking our team?

The only possible answer to that question, for me, is because they have a negative frustration over football itself. They take comfort in irritating others who really enjoy the game. And this is what is bothersome.

Their purpose is not to discuss Dolphin football on its merit the way you and I and others here do. Their purpose is to disrupt, denegrate and deflate the enthusiasm of others. And this is what annoys, this is what frustrates the enthusiastic fan who wants only to share support for their team with others of similar interest.

Certainly, they are to be ignored; most of us are able to ignore them most of the time. But this would be such a better FOOTBALL experience if those detractors would simply stay away.

But they don't; they remain, a constant irritant. And that is what annoys the true fan, that is what causes frustartion, and that is why we sometimes respond.

I said it before, and I'll go to my grave believing it; We are a truly a banel civilization.

GO FINS!!! BEAT THE ODDS!! SILENCE THE DETRACTORS!!!!

Also with Hartline, Im sure Sherman and Philbin had great input into resigning him. So I'll just greatly respect their opinions of him for now.

YG4E

Makes sense.

I will try not to bash him until I see other wise.

Go Fins

It's banal and in my case not true. I just happen to like the Best.

Posted by: Buster | April 30, 2013 at 01:10 PM

These are miserable fans. That's a choice. If someone chooses to be miserable that's on them, not on us.

don't be miserable because these bums choose to be miserable. No one and no things "MAKES" us miserable. Its all in choice.

We have to "personally" choose to be miserable about what we see our hear. They don't make us miserable. Saying a thing makes me miserable is nothing but a cop out.

So I got to you guys with this one. That's because it's true and the Truth is what most hurts.

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