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Salguero overview of Dolphins free agency

Regular readers of this blog will remember I reported last week that free agency for the Dolphins is going on hiatus for bit while the focus shifts to the draft. Yes, there are caveats in that hiatus but those are explained in the post.

Well, that means the bulk of Miami's free agency haul is over for 2013.

The Dolphins signed eight free agents, re-signed four of their own free agents, and cut or let six other starting-caliber free agents walk.

So I want to tell you what I think of all this.

I want to do it one time

I want to do it on the record.

I want to do it so that come future days when free agents boom or bust, you know how I stood on each player. (I'm doing this because fans have short memories and those that follow me here or on twitter often say I advocated something I did not or failed to stand for something that I actually did.)

I'm not saying I'm always right. Obviously not. (You read my stuff so you know that's not true). But If I'm going to be wrong, I want to do it on my own (dis)abilities and not with anybody's help.

This should also give you forum for agreeing or disagreeing with me.

Here we go:  

SIGNINGS (contract details in parenthesis)

WR Mike Wallace (5 years for $60 million with $27 million guaranteed): I stood up and advocated for this one and reported on this one to the point of being nauseating. The Dolphins had to do this. The team had no deep threat and had shown precious little ability to add a deep threat this past decade -- remember Ted Ginn and Clyde Gates -- in the draft. So Miami had to overpay. Yes, this is overpaying. But that's what people do for a Rolls Royce. Wallace has averaged 8 TDs a year for years. He's rarely injured. He has never been a problem in the locker room. The Steelers wanted him back but couldn't afford him. That all suggests he's going to be a great addition. And that's what I think he'll be. I wanted him on the Dolphins as much as anybody. I stand by that. We'll see.

LB Dannell Ellerbe (5 years for $34.75 million with $14 million gtd.): Ellerbe said it himself, he thought he was going to be the heir to the Ray Lewis middle linebacker job in Baltimore. So on the surface that seems like a great get if outstanding GM Ozzie Newsome and the Super Bowl Champion Ravens thought that highly of Ellerbe. Except, well, they didn't. They let him go. Yes, they had cap issues. But it didn't stop them from adding Elvis Dumervil. So that gave me pause. Then this: The Baltimore Sun reported that at points during his time with the Ravens, Ellerbe was late to meetings, late to practice and liked to party -- a lot. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and believe it was early on and not something he dealt with lately, because the Dolphins assured me, "we did our homework," on all the free agents before signing them and part of that was knowing how they would conduct themselves off the field and around South Florida. Miami addressed the linebackers to "get more physical" and have the defense make more plays, according to GM Jeff Ireland and head coach Joe Philbin. Me? I'm not sold. I don't see linebackers in the 4-3 being the huge playmakers in the NFL they once were. The game often creates mismatches against them. The offenses often throw right over them. So I'm not overly excited about this move.

LB Phillip Wheeler (5 years for $26 million with $13 million gtd.): If Wheeler were coming out of college, I'd look at him as a one-year wonder. Remember that two years ago, the Indianapolis Colts let him walk and he signed a one-year deal with Oakland for $700,000. Yes, the Dolphins liked him last year and wanted him on the team but he wanted to pursue a chance to start so he went elsewhere. So yes, the Dolphins saw something in Wheeler not many other teams did a year ago. But now they see something in him at a price no other team did. Can he do in 2013 as well as he did in 2012? Indeed, can he be a contributor and playmaker -- remember the Dolphins added Ellerbe and Wheeler to make plays -- the next three years or so? I have to see it.

CB Brent Grimes (1 year for $5.5 million with $3 million gtd.): I love this pickup because it adds a stable, experienced, professional, high-caliber cornerback that will be an upgrade to Miami's defense at corner if ... he's healthy. Grimes is coming off an Achiles' tendon tear. His rehab is reportedly doing well (he's doing the reporting). But in the depressed cornerback market, Grimes had to settle for a contract that forced him to prove he's returned to the Pro Bowl caliber player he was in 2011. If he does, he's a great signing. If he doesn't, he didn't break the bank. Grimes will be hungry because utlimately he wants a long-term deal. The question, again, is health. I like this signing very much.

TE Dustin Keller (1 year for $4.25 million with $2.25 million gtd.): Here's another player that was injured most of last year and had to settle for a short-term deal to re-prove his value. So the Dolphins get a hungry player in a contract year who will be playing inspired for himself and certainly for the opportunity to stick it to his former team, the New York Jets. That's not what I like most about Keller. I like that finally the Dolphins have a legitimate pass-catching threat at tight end. In that department, Keller is an upgrade over Anthony Fasano. Yes, the blocking won't be as good. But Keller is willing. That's important. And this is what I like most: Keller comes from an offense that had multiple offensive coordinators the past couple of years. He comes from an offense with a bad quarterback. And yet, he was productive when healthy. So in an offense that is more stable, with a quarterback that promises to be better than Mark Sanchez, I expect better production. This is a solid signing. I like it.

G Lance Louis (1 year for $1,603,750 with $100,000 gtd.): Bargain shopping, the Dolphins hope they strike gold here. Louis was perhaps Chicago's best offensive lineman last year before he blew out his knee. If he can return to that height by training camp, John Jerry will be out of a starting job. If he doesn't, the Dolphins can basically cut Louis with minimal risk. The middle ground is Louis provides veteran experience and can be an experienced backup on the cheap. I like the signing more than the player. The contract is the thing here. Solid job.

WR Brandon Gibson (3 years for $9.78 million with $3.75 million gtd.): Gibson reminds of a Jeff Ireland receiver. Not fast. Not quick. But big and physical. I get it. There's something to be said for that. Me? I like speed. Speed at X, Y and Z. If you're going to spend over $3 million a year I would have preferred some speed be part of the deal. My problem? I looked at the available players and the only one I would have liked was Darrius Heyward-Bey. And he's a problematic reclamation project who signed a one-year deal. The Dolphins obviously decided going with experience was more valuable than dipping into the vast pool of draft eligible receivers that come with promise but no NFL experience. I get it. But do I love this signing? Meh. Let me say this: Instead of signing Gibson, I might have added to the TE corps and solved it. I would have gotten Brandon Myers to go with Keller and drafted a wide receiver to groom. Instead, the Dolphins may end up drafting a tight end. Let's see who produces more in 2013 ... Gibson or Myers.

DT Vaughn Martin (2 years for $4 million with $750,000 gtd.): Ireland loves his defensive line. He believes it is a staple of the team. An anchor. He wants to keep it strong. But the Dolphins needed to address the tackle sport because Tony McDaniel played too high in the 4-3 and was often injured and simply didn't fulfill his role. So the club moved on from him and got Martin. This is a bargain signing. Martin is a solid player. But he will have to get used to the 4-3 because he's been a 3-4 DE the past couple of years. That means a growing period. Is this an awesome signing? No. Is this a solid addition? Probably so. Good work.

Re-signings

WR Brian Hartline (5 years for $30,775,000 with $12.5 million gtd): First off, why the extra $775,000? I know Hartline would have taken $30 million. And this deal was signed at a time the Dolphins were still bidding against themselves. So somebody cost owner Stephen Ross some money on that. Aside from that, Hartline is a good player who has already established some chemistry with quarterback Ryan Tannehill and some presence in the locker room. It's good to keep your own good players. It's bad to be a receiver needy team and let your top receiver go two consecutive years. So the Dolphins had to do this deal. Thing I like most about this? If Hartline and Wallace stay healthy, the Dolphins can put two speedy wide receivers on the field at the same time. And you know how I feel about speed, right?

DT Randy Starks (franchise tender signed for $8.45 million): This rental makes sense. Starks is very, very good at what he does but you don't want to commit four or five years to a 29-year-old interior lineman. The Dolphins approach with Paul Soliai was similar and they ended up cutting his tender in half the follwing year down to $6 million a year on a multi-year deal. Don't be surprised if Starks' price goes down next year and Miami gets him cheaper. The fact is also the Dolphins had salary cap space to fit the franchise tender under the cap so no biggie. Good job.

OL Nate Garner (3 years for $4.875 million with $700,000 gtd.): Not every signing involves a star. You have to have role players and Garner is a good one. He can play both guard and tackle in a pinch. He's cheap. He's experienced and has rarely been overwhelmed by the stage. Garner is also good people. He's good in the community and he kepts his mouth shut, which coach Joe Philbin loves. No issues with this re-signing.

S Chris Clemons (1 year for $2.75 million with $1 million gtd): Clemons wanted a longer deal after being the starter much of the past three seasons. But he's a solid player. That's the extent of it. He's not been a consistent playmaker. He's not been a major issue. Just solid. The Dolphins want to upgrade at safety but one cannot upgrade at every single position over one offseason. So the team is standing pat here this year and could upgrade in the future. Logical move. 

The "losses"

LT Jake Long to St. Louis: He went to the Rams and I shrug. Look, he's a very good player when healthy. But his health is a concern. And even when he is healthy, he's not a cornerstone that will lead any team to the Super Bowl. No left tackle is that, frankly. The best left tackles, the hot left tackles don't carry teams. They are along for the ride. The Ravens won the Super Bowl last year with Bryant McKinnie playing left tackle. McKinnie had been out of shape and out of the loop the entire season until he finally got playing time in the playoffs. So what does that tell you about left tackles? Are they valuable? Yes. Should they be at the top of your salary cap structure? Put it this way, Joe Thomas is a great left tackle and more consistent than Long. He's at the top of Cleveland's salary cap. How's that working them? Playmakers should be at the top of your cap structure. Not the grunts. And certainly not the grunts with lingering injury issues.

MLB Karlos Dansby: He was solid. But he was hired to be great. He was hired to an $8 million a year contract to make plays and disrupt offenses and change games. He didn't. He was merely solid. And if he'd been making $2 million a year instead of four times that, that would have been good enough. But he wasn't. This is a case of Dolphins cutting ties because Dansby wasn't part of the problem, but neither was he part of the solution. What does it say that Dansby still hasn't been signed by anyone?

OLB Kevin Burnett to Oakland: He was cheaper than Dansby but he wasn't cheap. He was just one grade above solid. But again, he didn't make big plays, either. He didn't cause many fumbles or step in front of passes for interceptions. He was a player other players respected. But he's 30 and he wasn't about to get any better. Interestingly, the Raiders recovered from their loss of Phillip Wheeler by signing Kevin Burnett, completing what effectively was a trade of players. The Dolphins paid a much bigger salary for the exchange. Wheeler will have to be a consistent playmaker to make it worthwhile for the Dolphins. We'll see.

TE Anthony Fasano to KC: He did a lot of little things well but did nothing extraodinarily well. He was solid. He was a 7-9 tight end. The Dolphins needed to upgrade and while their blocking at the position may be worse today, I perceive their pass-catching will be better. And, I remind, it is a passing league.

Sean Smith to KC: He wasn't a system fit in Miami. He was at his best in press situations against big, physical receivers. So he had good games against Larry Fitzgerald and A.J. Green. But he seemed lost the entire rest of the season. He gave up first downs as if that was the assignment. And he didn't make plays. Just did not. It was uncanny. The Chiefs believe he'll be great in their system and they tampered focused on Smith early to get a deal done. I believed the Dolphins made a mistake trading Vontae Davis. I don't think letting Smith walk was a mistake.

Tony McDaniel to Seattle: I'd be surprised if McDaniel makes that team.

[Update: Reggie Bush (how could I forget): He was a good player. He worked hard, played hard and was a good citizen. Nothing like what I thought when he got here. But he'll be better off in Detroit and the Dolphins will be better off without him because Lamar Miller will be just as good, if not better, if he stays healthy. And Miller will do it while earning 10 times less money. I would like the Dolphins to draft a running back on draft Saturday, however.]

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Looks good to me

..Armando..Good piece. The one free agent signing that I did not like was Gibson..You said it. An Ireland receiver. We all know that those guys have been doo-doo pie here in Miami. The signing of Lance Louis? The only thing I knew about him was seeing him called for Holding in a game V Geen Bay..

The shocker to me was Ellerbee. Nobody saw that coming(I know Dashi spent a lot of time on Dansby, I'm just saying nobody had Ellerbee on a list of free agents that they though we would sign)..The linebackers have a chance to be good this year. I think we may even draft a guy in the 2nd or third round to compete with Misi.

Nice job by Jeff Ireland but still a mediocre roster at best, only a handful of good players nobody great #ers-51-2-5-17-11-94-96-91 the rest of this team really blow
!! Ireland better draft playmakers not the usual fat a** linemeh Jeffrey boy is notorious for doing !! Jeff just get the damn job done on 4/25-4/27 no more excuses Mr.Jeffrey Ireland no excuses anymore just get the job done !!

Not a bad assessment but I think the Ellerbe/Wheeler combo will surprise many. They both play with a tremendous motor and are much more physical than Dansby/Burnett.

IMO, the Dolphins must be looking at a Pass Rusher or CB with their first round pick. IMO, a trade down is possible and then Trufant is the pick.

Uh hummm DD, I believe I trumpeted for Ellerbe long before free agency but didn't think it was a need and thought it wouldn't happen. But as far as being a fan .. nobody thumped harder for this guy than me. I loved the baltimore trio of Williams, Kruger, and Ellerbe and wanted one at least real bad.

..Mark..Yeah. I remember. I was on his train as well. especially after that Denver game(playoffs).. I just don't remember anyone who seriously thought Ellerbee was a guy we would sign. When we did, as much as some of us knew what we were getting. I was surprised.

I've noticed a lot you guys in here really loves mediocrity maybe it's because this franchise has been i n mediocrity mode for nearly 30 years now it's understandable !!

This alone makes Dansby for Ellerbee pretty much a wash and a huge cap savings at the same time. Eve4n if Ellerbee is just plain "Karlos Dansby", in the least, its a "HUGE" cap victory.

As for Wheeler, I can see the concern. However, based on last season, his 5th, he shows signs of entering into his prime. Although Burnett was cheaper than Wheeler, Ireland's rolling the dice that as a cheaper "combo package" Ellerbee/Wheeler are cheaper and will have a greater playmaking impact.

As a whole, the Dansby/Burnett combo were more expensive than the Ellerbee/Wheeler combo. However, when examining playmaking impact, its really tough to argue against the switch.

12-4

I like Gibson because he is as close to an Anquan Boldin type reciever as we were going to get. The fast recievers may have spread the field in the super bowl, But strong hands and a bad attitude won the game.
I like Bess, but he is not going to take the ball away from many safties.
If we can find a way to make Egnew angry and turn him into a Gronkowski, we will go far.

Mark,

Sorry man, I think Dashi was MUCH louder on Ellerbe than you. Just how I remember it.

Not sold on the linebackers we added. Younger and faster doesn't mean better. Let's see how it all plays out. If they're better I'll have no problem admitting it. Ireland didn't upgrade the TE position the way I wanted it. He can do something about that in the draft. I douby he will.

He gets an A- from me for his efforts so far and if he kills in the draft I'll have no problem giving him an A+.

DD, the only reason I didn't think Ellerbe would happen was because of the $6M in dead money attached to Dansby's contract this year but Dawn Aponte being the brilliant number cruncher she is (gotta love those numbers people!!!) found a way to upgrade the position and not have that dead money be an issue cap wise.

Sure the cash outlay for making the swap was significant but not the cap impact. Got to give it up for Mr. Ross for putting the money out there. Good thing about having a billionaire owner is he doesn't need one cent from this team. He is a fan first and foremost and will put the proceeds from this business back into it anytime which we can't say about certain teams like Buffalo for example. There are a lot of Wilsons that depend on Bills money to pay their lavish lifestyles...

UHm, Dashi was more down on Dansby than he was up on Ellerbe as far as I remember. I didn't think Dansby was the devil like Dashi did but I did think Ellerbe was all world and an upgrade on the majority of ILbs in this league.

whos your team mace????

marko (from the last blog),

I'm glad you're not GM of this team. Our thoughts couldn't be further apart about what we should do in the draft. I don't agree with on Patterson and he's not even close ot being worth the risk. Could he be a star? Yep. He could also be a bust. You talk about speed. I remember Heyward-Bey being a fast guy coming out too but I hated that pick for the Raiders. I'm not saying he's the next Heyward-Bey but your point on speed means nothing.

So I'd say 50/50 this guy becomes a star. He's not a guy I'd bet my job on.

Baltimore wanted ellerbe back. They were shocked miami offered that contract and ellerbe jumped and I dont blame him.And we signed ellerbe before balt had a chance at dumerville so dont make it sound like we bought their old leftovers after they made a choice of the two Armando.And before anyone jumps on me I reread the ellerbe paragraph and that's how it sounds to me.

My personal feelings regarding the LB's

1. SLOW- Is it me or did it seem like Dansby and Burnett would hit the QB, like half second after the QB threw the ball.

2. They were consistent, I wont say they were bad, but pretty unremarkable, as Armando said they rarely made game changing plays.

3. Not REAL leaders! If you are a true leader you, dont come to camp fat,I dont care if there is a lockout, you knew the season would start eventually' Dont blame the way you play on injuries, like Dansby's dropped INT he blamed on his shoulder and kept hollering about all season. I am not saying he wasnt injured, But just STFU and play

I think with Wheeler and Ellerbe we have 2 LB's that will knock the crap out of TE's RB'S and QB's. It has been proven time and time again, you beat the PATS by hitting them hard and regularly. Its fine if they make the catch, but make them feel it!! Baltimore had the PATS scared to catch the ball about halfway through their playoff game. Dansby and Burnett didnt seem very terrifying to watch play , the tackle but I cant remember and "Damn they fuqd him up!" tackles. Ellerbe hits like a damn train!!!

DD,

Not saying that Im in love the with the Gibson addition, still, I believe an efficient passing offense needs at least one "possession-type wr." That big physical guy who doesnt necessarily has to be open to be an effective weapon.

That type of receiver in whom the qb can throw the football and feel his guy will come own with the catch, covered or not. I believe these types can be very effective in 3rd and short to intermediate situations, or redzone and goal situations.

We know this isn't Hartline's strong suit, and Wallace cant be the only wr Tannehill looks to in these bailout situations. Every qb needs a "get out of jail free" card. It usually comes in the form of that wr that can actually catch over db's using his physicality as his best weapon.

Hopefully, this is what Gibson provides to this 2013 offense. A guy who can make a play that may not normally be there to be made by a less physical wr.

Nice job puttin' yourself out there Mando....I like the LB signings because they bring speed - as in coverage speed - something Dansby & Burnett just seemed a step or three off all the time. I like 'most' everything Ireland has done this off-season, though Gibson is a bit of a mystery to me. WAY overspent on Wallace but we desperately needed the guy & they can dump him favorably if he doesn't pan in 3 years. Tannehill is my biggest concern (accuracy) & the fact that they are putting all their eggs in a very unproven Lamar miller's hands/feet (I like him a lot - but Philbin didn't play the guy nearly enough last year).

Mark,

Don't you know, 'Ross is a cheapskate owner' and 'nobody wants to play for Ireland or the 'Phins'.

Come on man, haven't you been paying attention.

I hope the linebacker decisions don't bite us later. we knew what we had with dansby and burnett. Big gamble IMO

Dansby was expensive, so that was a cost cutting move but I think he was and is better than Ellerbe. Ellerbe benefited from being surrounded by great players and he has not proven it over a long period of time. Am afraid Ellerbe for Dansby is a loss in terms of performance, and only a slight gain in terms of money.
I agree with you about Gibson, would have been better to sign a TE and draft a young receiver.
Not at all convinced Miller is the answer at RB. I think Bush was undervalued by Philbin and he will regret that. And at 4 million a year, he would have been cost effective.
Miami now needs to trade up for a LT, draft a solid TE, draft a solid CB, draft a sold LB (again, not convinced the new guys are going to be enough), get lucky on a RB signing or draft pick, and perhaps sign Freeney to boost the pass rush for a one-year rental??

Gibson was a waste of money. I am similar to Mando in I like wrs to have at least above avg speed. Gibson is not big enough to be a jump ball box out type of wr nor is he fast/elusive enough to get vertical or get yac. Why did we sign him?

Much rather have taken a young dynamic wr in the draft with more tools and upside. Gibson is already hit his ceiling being a slow as he is. Also...bad comparison with Boldin. Boldin is built like a rock and is a very good route runner who can get yac because he is difficult to tackle.. Gibson doesn't have that strength or savy running routes.

Warfield42,

In 2012, I actually loved coach Philbin's "Ernest And Julio Gallo" approach to how he played certain players.

"We will serve no wine, before it's time."

They handled or developed Tannehill, whichever you choose to call it, very well. Lamar Miller was was exposed to the speed of the nfl just enough to become neither a liability, nor to hamper his future growth and impact.

Egnew, most fans are down on, but, it seems this coaching staff hasn't written off yet. Still, I believe this kid is boom or bust. I actually expect him to be slowly featured into the our 2013 offense.

I expect once Egnew gets a couple in game catches underneath his belt, his confidence will grow, and there wont be any looking back. Showing further proof Philbin's Ernerst And Julio's, "we will serve no wine before it's time" approach,really does work.

Agreed with everything UNTIL you're afterthought about Reggie Bush.

Bush was arguably the best player on offense in 2012, and you think Miami is better off without him??

WRONG. completely wrong.

Dasnby = Ellerbe??

Maybe 5 years ago. Dansby was finished the minute he showed up at 270 lbs. Shame on Sparano for not severly reprimanding him. Dansby took advantage of his contractual status to eat like a fat pig. Shame on him for not being a pro either.

Good post; I agree with the need at RB, love Giovanni Bernard with one of the 2nd-rounders; with #12 pick, a DE (Ansah ?), but much depends on what Ireland can do at OL: if he can sign Clabo, it would be a perfect scenario for the draft.

Pretty good, Armando, except for Bush. He is an exciting, and above good, Player; a back that can get you 10-15 yds in a quick hurry or go all the way, he's also a good receiver. Probably let go because of his insistence to be an every-down, premier back.

Oscar bang on re: Bush. he would've been best used like the Saints used him - as a multi use weapon - not an every down back. But Detroit wanted to give him the chance and the money so nothing left ot discuss there.

I don't think Baltimore ever saw the Ellerbe signing coming. If they did, they wouldn't have been so surprised and more active. I love the replacement of the linebackers. Keller is an upgrade but still want to see a great TE in the Draft. IE Eifert. Still laughing at the Bush crowd. Reggie was the best playmaker on a 7-9 team. Reggie wanted to be a feature running back, not happening with the WCO. Lamar Miller will be great this year. Thomas?? Not convinced. Either way, RBs are a dime a dozen in the NFL. Monte Ball, Lattimore will be there in Rds 4 and 5. Best of luck Reggie but your time was up here.

Also should be worth noting that Dumervil was not a replacement for Ellerbe but a replacement for Paul Kruger. Wait til the draft to find out who Baltimore drafts to play ILB ... my money is on Kevin Minter of LSU.

Hopefully reggie can keep his knees healthy up on that turf plus going to the metrodome once a year.

Armando is absolutely right about Dansby and the fact that he has not signed yet. Look at what we have been saying about the remaining players in FA, they are no longer the impact players...Well it appears that the league feels that way about Dansby. I guess Ireland was right on this one. I mean Burnett was not unemployed for long, yet Dansby can't find a job.

I do, however, think he is down playing the importance of OL a little. Except for QB you can make his argument of Joe Thomas not elevating the Browns with other positions also. According to Armando WR should be at the top of your salary structure. To use Armando's words how is that working out for Detroit with Johnson or Arizona with Fitzgerald. OL is important if you don't think so ask the Packers or Bears how a bad OL has hurt them the last couple of years. The fins have to absolutely address the OL at the top of this year's draft.

"possession-type wr." That big physical guy who doesnt necessarily has to be open to be an effective weapon.
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YG, everyone seems to have their idea of a possession receiver. A possession receiver can have above average speed. Required is quickness to create separation, good route running and good hands to consistently pick up the first downs. A possession receiver with great speed would be great for this team. That's why I have been posting that in the 2nd or 3rd rounds the Dolphins need to draft a speed WR. To me size is less of a need than the ability to accelerate quickly. Wes Welker is an example of why size is less of an asset than quickness and acceleration for a possession receiver.

bap.

hey mia will 13 an 3 this year.Wen draft fill the holes dis will be superbowl team.

Bobby, bernard and Johnathan Frankin are promising 2nd rd prosepcts at RB. Christine Michael and Le'Veon Bell in the 4th look good too. As you say, no reason to pay Bush if he insisted on being an every down back.

Armando,

I do agree with drafting a rb on Saturday of the nfl draft. Thursday is rd 1, Friday rds 2-3, Saturday rds 4-7.

Hopefully, rds 4-7 means Marcus Lattimore, he hopes to be ready by season's start. Even if we could start sprinkling him into the offense by 2nd half of the season I'll consider it huge steal.

Hell, even if we sat him until 2014, it could e the steal of this new decade, now only 3yrs in.

LB position is barely different from last year.Too much worry because these guys are new to the Fins.They ll adapt.The key was in getting younger players for about the same price.....generally speaking of course.Glad lead-footed Fasano is long G-O-N-E.Believe me.Actually thought McDaniel was a good back-up/cog in the middle.YOU seem to think Martin is better though I m not so sure.The receiving corp is obviously now improved.Besides CB,LT,DE,TE I d love to also see the Fins draft a RB.Miami can t get enough depth there.This season s RB corp has yet to prove they can maintain Miami s past running game with Bush.Bush they should have kept.Whatever.Miami needs to hit on their picks well in this month s draft.Hope they get 5 or 6 ral good keepers for the long haul.

WR BRANDON GIBSON DON'T NEED SPEED TO MAKE SHORT YARDAGE AND SHORT GOAL LINE CATCHES. ASK ANY DOLFAN OF THE PAST IF FMR WRS ORANDE GADSDEN AND O.J. MCDUFFIE NEEDED SPEED TO MAKE THE TOUGH ACROBATIC CATCHES? HE'S. GOING TO GET PAID TO CREATE MISMATCHES IN THOSE SITUATIONS.

KENNY VACCARO IS WHAT WE NEED.....

HE IS THE ONLY SAFTEY WORTH A FIRST ROUND PICK, WE CAN GET LOTS OF CORNERS AND OL IN ROUND 2.


When you look at film of Brandon Gibson it's clear he's a football player. He goes up and consistently beats DBs to the ball. He's a good signing and an upgrade.

yeah on vacc.

2 watt,

Please do not forget that we are meeting at the Pompano Fashion Mall today for enchiladas and pedicures.

Awesome post Orlando @ 12:47... you'll never hear Mando acknowledge this though but it does work both ways. I'm with you, OTs are extremely important. You have to amke sure you at least have very good ones ... don't need to make Joe Thomas money or be as good as him but they can't be Damion MacIntosh and 2012 Johnathan Martin either.

jim, i'll be at festival 1st. i dig that chix in the commercials.
lol

Don't know much about this Draft's RBs but if Bernard is rated #1 then that class must be very weak. Giovani is much like Bush is, more of a quick scatback but not with the power to run thru the middle consistently. I'm not at all in love with D. Thomas' performance up to now, but he must be given another chance. Perhaps a 2nd or 3rd Rounder a la Ray Rice? Uff!

Posted by: promichael | April 08, 2013 at 12:49 PM

So true, however, what you posted is ideal when looking for that guy to be your #1 or #1 wr. But that isn't what Gibson's signed on to be. I believe he's a 45-50 catch a year guy that's a supplement to the wr's around him.

I do expect we add another wr via draft. Just too many solid wr's in this draft not to add at least one. I, for one, would be very disappointed to see Ireland not draft a wr by 4th rd.

This wr class is at least 4 rds deep. Not stating a definite, but 4-5yrs from, 4 rds deep there's pro bowl or pro bowl cusp potential in a great number of these recievers.

I might be the only guy, but I liked the Gibson signing. He plays smart and physical and most importantly, has great hands!

He looks like a poor man's Hines Ward.

Guys I think you need to ease up on Dansby a bit. None of us actually know the situation. Just because he doesn't have a job right now doesn't mean he's done, as some of you are trying to imply. He was hurt for most of last year. None of quite know how badly. On top of that, none of us know what his salary demands are. It might be a hard pill for him to swallow that he's not going to get what he got from us before. Could be his agent thinks the best approach is to wait until after the draft. Could be teams don't want to commit until after the draft. There are a lot of reasons. Bottom line, none of us have any idea at this point.

Mark,

You can also argue that Cleveland's problem is not that Joe Thomas is not doing enough to get them to the Superbowl but that it is the lack of having a franchise QB. That is the story of all the bad teams, bad QB play. You still need to have the OL to protect the QB so that he can throw the ball. I'll take great players at any position I can but you MUST have the franchise QB if you are going to be competing to go to the SB.

I think Philbin described Gibson at being "good at the top of the route". I interpret that as having the hands, size and strength to take the ball away from whomever is covering him even if tightly. Yup, we need one of those, also.

Craig,

You are right that we do not know Dansby's situation. However, I think that point is that impact players do not stay on the market for this long. I mean honestly how many big impact (franchise type) players are still left out there?

But good point in that this does not mean he is out of the league and that we don't know his situation. It just means he is not an 8 million dollar a year player or else he would have signed already.

Don't know about Armando or any of the rest you guys, but I see the handwriting on the wall for Devon Bess. I feel his(slot) will be the position we upgrade in this draft.

I feel slot is the position Philbin/Sherman wants to add more speed and separation ability to. Also you need a guy there that's far more of a td threat and homerun threat at this position.

I would love to see Stedman Bailey consistently going against opposing defense's "3RD" corners. IMO, Stedman Bailey would represent the finishing strokes to a marvelous wr reclamation rebuild.

"The Dolphins paid a much bigger salary for the exchange...of Wheeler for Burnett.'

Not accurate. Wheeler's salary is slightly less than Burnett's contract was with Dolphins. Oakland paid him less because he's slow. But, an invalid comparison because he was cut.

They exchanged Ellerbee and Wheeler for under performing (relative to their salaries) Dansby and Burnett. It's simple.

My ideal running back seletction would be Bell with pick 3B or the 4th rounder or Kenjon Barner in the 5th round. I could see Barner playing that Reggie Bush and Darren Sproles role with the Saints.

But, the way is looking, the OL is the unit that needs the most work on. Aside from the obvious hole at OT, I'm not that much worried about the starters as about the depth there, plus, the 2 present starters at G are playing in their last contract year. I won't be surprised if Ireland drafts 2 or 3 of these specimens.

All I know is that Jeff was aggressive and helped this team get younger, faster, while not hurting that cap. This team is young and hungry, and seem to be ready to take the next step.

I do this think they should of kept Reggie. Now it is time for new leaders on this team to emerge!

I really hope this team takes on the personality of its head coach.

Brandon Gibson runs a 4.59 40...that isn't exactly "slow". Chad Johnson ran a 4.57.

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