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A look at Miami's tackle auditions

Eric Winston.

Tyson Clabo.

Bryant  McKinnie.

Winston Justice.

Let's play pick the offensive tackle!

The Dolphins have basically conducted an open offensive tackle tryout this week in order to try to fill their most glaring need remaining this offseason.

All of the players they've brought in to audition for the part have been excellent to good NFL players at one time. All of the players they've brought in are no longer the players they once were. All of the players they've brought in have been cast off by other teams now, some of them by multiple other teams. All of the players they've brought in want significant money -- at least $3 million for one season. All of the players they've brought in are probably just one-year solutions, in the Dolphins' mind. All of the players they've brought in had to work during their visits.

This is a tryout, not a classic free agent visit. Yes, there are meetings with the coaching staff and meals and so forth. But all the players have been or will be put through a work out on the field.

So which player will the Dolphins pick?

Which is the best option?

Obviously, we're not allowed to see the workouts. So assuming all the players are in relatively equal shape (probably a bad assumption) the Dolphins have to also judge a variety of factors.

Injury history.

Contract demands/desire.

Character/Culture fit.

Right off the bat if one of these players is willing to play for one year and relatively cheaply, he has an advantage. I don't know that any will do that, but that's out there. I would assume that the most expensive of the bunch would be Bryant McKinnie because he's the only actual left tackle of the group. Left tackles are more valuable.

The problem is McKinnie is clearly the worst character and culture fit. He's not Chad Johnson, as I mentioned in a previous blog post because he hasn't really been in constant legal problems. But he has been known to be a headache to coaches -- even last year in Baltimore. He is also an unrepentant partier. He has even recently hosted a party at a local club in Pembroke Pines as recently as two weeks ago.

Now, there's nothing wrong with partying. But even if McKinnie isn't the king of all partiers, he's royalty. And as the Dolphins are within 12 miles of Pembroke Pines and South Beach is down the coast a bit, this can lead to some distractions and negative example setting.

Just saying.

Winston, Clabo and Justice are not saints. But they're not in McKinnie's league at all.

Injuries?

McKinnie is clean in this regard. He didn't start a game last season during the regular season but that wasn't due to injury. He was overweight (another red flag) and out of shape (red flag) and it took him much of the season to get back in shape. He started every playoff game at left tackle.

Clabo last season managed a hip injury but continued to add to his 101 starts with the Falcons. He has not missed a game in five seasons. The chart below is missing a start in 2012.

Justice is not quite the iron man. He has started 16 NFL only once in his seven previous seasons, that coming in 2009. He was limited to 12 games last season with Indianapolis.

Eric Winston, like Clabo, answers the bell. He has started 16 games every year since 2007.

The age issue isn't really one. Look, the Dolphins know each man's age. They still brought them all in. This signing won't be a long-term affair. Even if the eventual contract signed is a multi-year deal, in all probability this will be a one-year rental.

Sidenotes:

The Dolphins are not the only team searching for tackle help. The Chargers need help at left tackle. The Ravens do also.

All are relatively interested in McKinnie. The Dolpins are really the only team trying out right tackles because they believe Jonathan Martin on some level can play left tackle. The Raven have Michael Oher and still would rather have a left tackle. The Chargers just drafted D.J. Fluker to play right tackle.

It should be interesting to compare and contrast how the three teams address the same need going forward. To me, however, this is starting to feel a bit like a Marc Colombo redo. I've seen this scenario before.

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Oscar,

I ask you to view 'Clambake' and behold its majesty!

I KNOW Clambake.

Has anyone ever seen D Thomas break a tackle? Me neither.

I know Clambake, and You, Sir, are NO Clambake!

Jordan will be asked to put on 15-20 pounds of weight (muscle) and will play the same type of 'hybrid' DE/OLB position that Jason Taylor did so effectively.

Really no need to pigeonhole him as one or the other. It's simply a variation of BOTH positions that some athletes are able to accomplish.

The only question is whether Jordan will be able to do at a high level for years. As a rookie, I suspect he will be mostly a situation pass rusher--but hope for more, obviously.

There's still many problems to solve between Internet and the Commercial World(the Era of Commerce has passed but we have to help them adapt). All these paywalls in different digital newspapers will not work. Advertisements apparently are not sufficient either. Then?

L. Miller consistently Ran A 4.3

He Is Gillislee If The Kid Was Fast.

Or R. Bush Without The Dancing.

RB Is Actually A Strong Position For Ireland.

Even D. Thomas. He Is The 2nd Or 3rd Best RB Out Of His Draft. It All Depends On This Year.

That Position Is Sort Of Wide Open. Even Though The Coaches Favor L. Miller.

L. Miller Is Actually Bigger Than Gillislee. So All Of This Big Back Talk Is Ludicrous.

The Good Thing Is That We Have RBs.

I See Thigpen Getting Cut Before D. Thomas.

So All This D. Thomas Hate Like He Is The 2nd Coming Of R. Brown. Fans Should Just Give It A Break. The Guy Was A Low 2nd Round Pick RB. Not #2 Overall.

Heck D.Thomas Has Had Almost As Productive Rushing Career As R. Bush Had His First 2 Seasons. And Reggie was A Top 3 Pick.

And Ireland Knew That Was Spo's RB. He Drafted His Replacement A Year Later. L. Miller.

L. Miller Averaged 5.6 yds In College. 4.9yds His First Year In The NFL.

L. Miller Is 4 Years Younger Than D. Thomas And 1 Year Younger Than M. Gillislee.

He Is The Prodigal RB.

He Is Even Younger Than E. Lacy.

Well, you may "know" Clambake in the way we know "chocolate cake" or "orangutans" but only through repeated viewings can you truly become ONE with Clambake.

Let Clambake enter your soul.

Finally,
someone recognizes the value of Venom (Vernon and Shelby).
Jordan will be used in a plethora of applications.

I see Clambake everyday, pal.

3 picks for D Thomas was MORONIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

D. Jordan Will Be Used As A Weapon.

He Has About 2 Years Before He Is Exclusively A DE. By Then He Should Be 6'7" 265lbs.
As Of Right Now He Is Our 3rd Best LB. And Our 3rd Best Pass Rusher.

I Would Put Him On The Field Standing Up With Odrick In Front Of Him On 1st and 2nd. Protecting The Run. Then Make DJ Play DE From Time To Time On 3rd Down. Have Him Splitting Time With Misi On 1st and 2nd. And Splitting Time With Vernon On 3rd Down His 1st Season.

Next Year Odrick Will Be Playing DT And Misi Will Be Gone. DJ Can Switch To Full Time DE Then. Plus We Can Draft The 6'6" OLB From Alabama(A. Hubbard). OK Thinking To Far Ahead Right Now. But You Get My Point. DJ Shouldn't Be Limited To 1 Position. The Coaches Will Be Doing Him A Disservice.

I like our RB situation. As I have said before, bring in football players first, then speed and athleticism are secondary.
Miller=football player
Gillislee= football player
My favorite RB in this year's draft was Le'Veon Bell, as I am sure some will remember. Unfortunately Bell flew up the rankings and went higher than we could address. He will, definitely, be on my fantasy draft board.

OMG! I have a clip for you below.

Was it Gruden that called Dion Jordan a one trick pony?

If it was, Gruden gets the "Idiot Pundit" award!

I don't care what So-Called expert says this or what So-Called expert says that. Don't take my word for it either, trust your own eyes.

Jordan has moves and gives effort like I've NEVER SEEN BEFORE!

Hint: Pause the Youtube clip and use your side to side arrows for frame by frame breakdowns(if you're using a good PC).

One of Jordan's big strengths is his long arms and his ability to hand fight, swim and rip! He takes full advantage of these skills. Fvck what any of the So-Called experts say about any of it.

Bonus: On the clip, Jordan lines up wide as a Receiver and catches a Wide Receiver screen for a score. It's not really all that amazing......until you realize it's a 6-7 250 lbs DE/OLB. That and the fact everybody in the stadium knows where the ball is going, including the DB's!

Philbin and Coyle better not Fvck with this Kids career. If used properly, this Kid going to be "Super Special".

Like I said above, don't take my word for it, just trust your own eyes. Break it down. The more you do, the better it gets! Jordan is Fvcking Amazing!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEi7AB8yGI8


Has anyone ever seen D Thomas break a tackle? Me neither.

Posted by: Steve in Ottawa | May 02, 2013 at 12:01 AM
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No!

But I saw him Break Duh-rell Revis' ankles, spirit and pride!

ALL with just one move too!

Now What........STEVIE?

GTFOH-ROTFLMAO!!!!


As a rookie, I suspect he will be mostly a situation pass rusher--but hope for more, obviously.

Posted by: tjt | May 02, 2013 at 12:01 AM
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I agree with your entire post and then some Brother!

If they even TRY to hold him back any(like easing him in as a situational pass rusher), they should be FIRED on the SPOT! What a complete waste of talent and draft picks it would be.

They went up high and got a Beast!

JUST TURN THE BEAST LOOSE!!!!

If, for ANY REASON, Koa Misi is on the field and a healthy Dion Jordan is on the sideline, Philbin and Coyle should get a Beat Down and then be FIRED!

ON THE SPOT!!!!

Thomas has the talent to play big time football, but he is missing the rest of the package.

odinpoo,

are you going to be cutting and pasting until dawn again? can't you find a better way to entertain yourself or have you lost functionality?


3 picks for D Thomas was MORONIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Stevie | May 02, 2013 at 12:12 AM
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STILL Whining about the 2011 Draft only a week after the 2013 draft....?

ULTIMATELY MORONIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now What.......STEVIE?

NOW WHAT!!!!

Dashi,

Excellent post at 12:03!!!!

There's a role for Daniel Thomas as illustrated by that first down run(or was it a catch)in which he Trashed Revis!

If Thomas can stay healthy and hold on to the ball, he's a solid power back.

He's on the edge though. Another concussion or timely fumble and he could easily be toast.

I couldn't believe how talented Gillislee is. I think he runs very similar to Miller. Gillislee runs with his pads a little lower which is good, especially for a smaller back.

Miller though........Miller has "It". He has everything Gillislee has with advantages in speed, power and size.

They **BOTH** remind of Thurman Thomas though. I can't help it. That's the "It" I'm talking about. Thurman Thomas like running style as well as patience, great cutback ability and most of all, what makes backs like this great: **VISION**

You can see "IT" in the way they set up blocks. The way they find the excellent cutback opportunities. They create themselves and they do "IT" with Great VISION".

I thought our RB stable was Very Good last year. And I think it has the *POTENTIAL** to be even better this year.

I'm not cutting on Daniel Thomas or Giving Up on him. It's just simply the fact that I think Gillislee is going to be THAT GOOD. There will still be a need/spot for the Big Back like Thomas. But I believe Miller and Gillislee are easily and already no. 1 and 2 on the depth chart.

Valhalla!!!!


My favorite RB in this year's draft was Le'Veon Bell, as I am sure some will remember. Unfortunately Bell flew up the rankings and went higher than we could address. He will, definitely, be on my fantasy draft board.

Posted by: Fins of Fury | May 02, 2013 at 12:47 AM
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I agree, The Steelers knew a Good Back when they saw one. Can you believe a lot of the Pundits were condemning Pitt for drafting him so high?

I saw a lot of Bell being here in Michigan. The Kid is a straight up "Football Players" as you say-LOL!

I know what you mean by being a Baller First! Couldn't agree more.

Matter of fact, that's what I like so much about most of our picks. Especially the first two. Jordan and Taylor are Ballers First, Athletes Second!

That's why I'm so convinced they'll do so well at this level! I think they wer both drafted into great situations and system/scheme fits that will help their careers rather than hinder(Like SpOrano and Hennings did to Henne).

Valhalla!!!!

odinpoo,

are you going to be cutting and pasting until dawn again? can't you find a better way to entertain yourself or have you lost functionality?

Posted by: leme | May 02, 2013 at 01:28 AM
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C'mon Troll.......

You can do better than this. You've posted this a hundred times already. Then something about meeting mygirlfriend at a Pharmacy or something. You've posted that a thousand times too.

God......Man........even for a Troll, you.......

S-U-C-K........Suck-Suck-SUCK!!!!
- - - - - - - - - - -

Post something at least slightly coherent about Football once in awhile. Jeesh!!!!

Since we don't need Bess, who is our boy to replace him? I have been throwing this out there in several fashions, but I guess it must be said plain and simple. Everyone's kicking dog, will replace him. Egnew will play every position at wideout. This is, yet another deception from our ambiguous game plan.
Egnew is not an inline TE, as many have postured. Watch and behold as his true intentions are revealed.

Monkey Boy,

I have a Doctors appointment early, so I won't be here.

Could you please keep copy/pasting this for me all morning and at least till noon?

I don't care about my post, but I want to make sure the morning crew can see this clip. I want to see if they have the same type of opinion I do.

Come on, you usually post a bunch of dumb garbage over and over again anyways. How about it? I'll make you a deal too. You can use as many different sign in names as you like and I won't point them out. For ah.......lets say, for a WHOLE Day?

Ooooooooooooooooooooo! You like that? You do, don't Cha? YEAH!

OK Then!
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OMG! I have a clip for you below.

Was it Gruden that called Dion Jordan a one trick pony?

If it was, Gruden gets the "Idiot Pundit" award!

I don't care what So-Called expert says this or what So-Called expert says that. Don't take my word for it either, trust your own eyes.

Jordan has moves and gives effort like I've NEVER SEEN BEFORE!

Hint: Pause the Youtube clip and use your side to side arrows for frame by frame breakdowns(if you're using a good PC).

One of Jordan's big strengths is his long arms and his ability to hand fight, swim and rip! He takes full advantage of these skills. Fvck what any of the So-Called experts say about any of it.

Bonus: On the clip, Jordan lines up wide as a Receiver and catches a Wide Receiver screen for a score. It's not really all that amazing......until you realize it's a 6-7 250 lbs DE/OLB. That and the fact everybody in the stadium knows where the ball is going, including the DB's!

Philbin and Coyle better not Fvck with this Kids career. If used properly, this Kid going to be "Super Special".

Like I said above, don't take my word for it, just trust your own eyes. Break it down. The more you do, the better it gets! Jordan is Fvcking Amazing!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEi7AB8yGI8

Posted by: odinseye | May 02, 2013 at 01:01 AM


Fins Of Fury,

That's pretty Fvcking interesting.

IT's CRAZY! So CRAZY it just might work(A Dr. Evil: Bhwaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaa!!!!).

OK, SERIOUSLY, I have been wondering myself. Gibson and Hartline don't seem like slot types. I even wondered if Philbin/Sherman were going to tweak the offense to where there were no real slot types. Just all interchangeable Receivers(Now that's REALLY crazy).

But yeah, that would be an idea: Egnew replacing Bess.

But is it Feasible? Do you think Egnew can handle the slot? I mean, at this level? He did basically play the slot spot in college.

Ok, so how do they measure up? What were Egnew's 40 times and all that. Is he as fast as Bess?

WAIT A MINUTE! You're Yanking My Chain.......aren't you?

The Jordan move exploited a weakness in an opposing teams need to acquire more picks and to drop from a draft position considered a liability.
The diabolical plan of Parcells to debilitate this franchise is failing. The Mickey Mouse coach he instilled has been removed, and the greenhorn GM is developing quite well.

I am not saying Egnew will be just a slot man, but that he will be moved from each WR position depending on circumstance. That is why WR was not more aggressively pursued in the draft.

I can see Egnew playing in a WR position with Sims and Keller playin in a two TE set near the goal line. We have a lot of versatility there.

Exactly Woodshed,
Also think about the possibilities on other downs. Egnew was never a liability in the passing game, that is what his strength was coming out. I think he has been groomed to a new position.

look everybody just needs to chill and the dolphins need to just stick with what they got and stay in house! and let everybody battle it out for the right tackle position johnthan martin to me is going to be a great left tackle maybe not elite like jke long was in his prime but he is going to be very solid so let the man stay at left tackle which is what they are planning on doing he improved towards the end of the year and he also played against some strong deffensive ends at the end of the year the best in the league and he played very well against them espically since it was his rookie year this is why we did not make the trade with the chiefs for brandon albert because we are going with martin at left tackle so all we need is a right tackle but guewss what guys we drafted a guard slash tackle in the 3rd rouund so he is probably going to stay at guard and replace john jerry at guard so right now we need a right tackle but we have a couple guys that can play right tackle on teh roster right now we have like 3 tackles on the roster for right tackle they might not be great but guess what i say we just stick with the right tackle we resigned and his name is nate gardner! so i say let nate gardner will yeatmen and john jerry battle it out at right tackle becauser we know that the right guard we drafted dallas thomas is going to start at right guard over jerry! so i say we stay in house and let gardner battle it out with john jerry! or we can just sign eric winston for a year like we were going to before and let him duke it out with garder,and jerry so gardner,jerry,yeatmen,and winston can all battle it out in practice and the 5 preseason games we have and see who wins the job! it's not a big deal it's the right tackle not the left tackle martin will man that spot and as far as right tackle i think 1 of them 4 guys i just said can handle the job and besides ifthey are just average and need some help that is what dutin keller is there for at TE and can throw a chip block every down on passing downs when they need some help he can throw a chip and then go out for a pass and if he don't hit him hard enough on the chip that is what lamar miller is there for in the backfield protecting tannerhill and he can lay a chip shot block to protect tannerhill if thgat don't work that is why we have tannerhill he is fast and a former WR and he is faster then any deffensive end in the league because i don't think any deffensive end can run a 4.4 40 yard dash lie tannerhill which he runs like i think a 4.58 40 yard dash so no worry he is a scrambler just as much as a pocket passer so who cares chill out

robert,
I read your post, as difficult of a chore as it was. You made some points that I agree with. I have one thing that I wish to impart to you; please use punctuation and sentence structure.

Fins Of Fury,

Again, I couldn't agree more!

Roberts post made my eyes bleed and my head spin!

I'm hitting the shower, getting ready for the Doctor and then making the Kids some Breakfast!
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PS: If you want to **SEE** why Jordan should be a Day 1 - 3 Down Starter, checkout this youtube link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEi7AB8yGI8
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If you want to **SEE** why he won't be a DE exclusively, checkout this youtube link of him playing against Stanford in 2012:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMoel8E3HaE
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I did my Dion Jordan study tonight(this morning).

Coyle needs to play him at OLB so we can take advantage of his awesome skillset from day 1. Using him on situational blitzes FOR SURE!

I think he'll eventually be a Great DE, but it won't be this year. And if we don't play him at OLB, it'll be a great waste of talent and high draft picks.

You just don't use the 12th and 42 picks on a situational anything, a developmental anything, etc, etc. You use those kinds of picks on somebody that's going to come in and start Day 1.........ALL 3 Downs!

Valhalla!!!!

Odin,

I agree, play him at OLB and DE. Move this guy around and dictate what the offense has to do. IMO, he is a complement to Odrick, not a replacement. You have Odrick who is a DT/DE tweener that can stop the run well but has some pass rush skills. Put Jordan behind him to play zone and delay blitz when he (Odrick) and Starks occupy blockers. You can also line him up behind Wake for an overloaded blitz.

Another way we can utilize him is to line him up at DE and send LBs in on blitzes while he drops back in coverage. It scary what this D might be capable with the added speed and the retention of our D-line guys.

gang,

IT'S ALMOST 5.00 AM WHEN YOU POSTED THIS POST OF YOURS.....

DID YOU HAVE COFFEE THEN,OR YOU JUST LIKE ODIN ,WHO GOES TO SLEEP AROUND 5 AND START POSTING AROUND 2;00 PM .????

Sign someone already. Does it take 4 months to breakdown the left tackle situation? None of the players we even tried out are left tackles other than mckineee. Not looking forward to having Jon Martin at left tackle. Tannehill will be hurt by week 3. The guy had enough trouble at right tackle. I love all the offseason moves, but waiting to get a left tackle at the last minute could be verrrry risky.

Just a though here to on the Martin at LT thing....he was good enough to play for 4 years for this coach named Harbaugh,we all might know of him...Oh and by the way,didn't he also protect a guy named Andrew Luck for 4 years who had a pretty good college career and ended up first pick correct????They said Martin showed up stronger,bigger and in better shape.....Give the dude a chance....his bosses seem ready to....Pick up a RT and move on....We should be happy with the facy we aren't on here all pissed off and conceededing first place to the jack-dick Pattsies again before the season even starts...Go Fins!!!!!!!!!!

I see the whole picture. Next year's draft, the Dolphins will be heading for a OL LT as first rnd pick. Honestly, this is boring. Every year the Dolphins needs an OL. It's amazing that the staff cannot solve this issue for once and for all at least for 2-3 years.

let Martin play left tackle and use that big TE we just drafted on the left side to help out if needed. solidify the right side already....

they should have takin L.Johnson instead of D.Jordan. We all knew who Johnson was, Jordan was a roll of the dice. We would have been better of taking Johnson and getting a DE in later rounds.

After reading this, I am not too confident. Sounds like we need to pay Albert.

Marc, you clearly have no clue how the NFL works. You say "throw the Chiefs a 5th rounder", really, really. The Chiefs have Albert under control for the 2013 season, period. If he leaves in the spring of 2014 via free agency, the Chiefs will receive a compensatory pick in either round 2 or 3 of the 2015 draft, either way they win. Conversely, Tannehill is is going to get destroyed with Martin at LT and we will all wish Albert was at LT. Go fins.

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