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No mystery with Dion Jordan's assignment

I have gotten a handful of emails from fans wondering what the Dolphins are going to do with Dion Jordan, their newly minted first-round draft pick.

I supposed the question comes because general manager Jeff Ireland said during the draft he would let coaches figure out what the best way to use Jordan would be and coach Joe Philbin sometimes struggles to give a direct answer to a straight questions such as, "Is player X a guard or a tackle?"

So let me help you.

Dion Jordan is not a linebacker.

Dion Jordan is not a safety.

Dion Jordan is not a slot corner.

Believe it or not, it can be argued he did a little of all those at Oregon. Well, this is the NFL. This is not Oregon.

And in the NFL, on a 4-3 team, Dion Jordan will be a defensive end. If he is one of the team's best two complete ends, he'll start and play three downs. If he's more a pass-rusher early on while he learns the game, he'll play mostly on passing downs until he figures out his assignments and holding the edge of the defense on run plays and so forth.

But Jordan was drafted to get the quarterback on the ground. He was drafted to apply pressure to the passer. He was drafted to maybe cause errant throws that get intercepted. He was drafted to strip the ball from the quarterback and cause fumbles.

He wasn't drafted to cover tight ends or running backs. He wasn't drafted to patrol the middle of the field.

Hopefully the Dolphins move him around. Hopefully the Dolphins let him stand up if he's more comfortable doing that than rushing from a three-point or four-point stance. But, ultimately, rushing the passer is the thing.

He's going to get paid to collect sacks. And hurries.

No mystery.

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Crazy, 4 hours of Duchi and YG and Odin posting drivel last post.
Hopefully Mando will ban all 3.

Armando, lets get this straight: For The Record!

According to YOU then, Jeff Ireland used the 12th and 42nd picks of the draft for a Part time project?

Is THAT what you're REALLY going to CLAIM-LOL?

Tell me Armando, how many **OTHER** GM's use premiums picks like THAT on a guy that will only play on 3rd downs?

Watch the tape on Jordan. He struggled setting the edge in the Pac 12. He's 248 lbs with 3% body fat. He'll struggle to gain **OUNCES** let alone pounds.

The guys skillset is Fvcking Perfect to play a 4-3 OLB and to be a 3rd down pass rusher/blitzer.

But, for the **RECORD** Armando, you're going to **CLAIM** Ireland spent the PREMIUM Picks 12 and 42 on a part time project. A guy Philbin will basically only use on 3rd downs until he gains weight/develops/learns techniques, etc, etc.....?

Okey Dokey!!!!

Armando, lets get this straight: For The Record!

According to YOU then, Jeff Ireland used the 12th and 42nd picks of the draft for a Part time project?

Is THAT what you're REALLY going to CLAIM-LOL?

Tell me Armando, how many **OTHER** GM's use premiums picks like THAT on a guy that will only play on 3rd downs?

Watch the tape on Jordan. He struggled setting the edge in the Pac 12. He's 248 lbs with 3% body fat. He'll struggle to gain **OUNCES** let alone pounds.

The guys skillset is Fvcking Perfect to play a 4-3 OLB and to be a 3rd down pass rusher/blitzer.

But, for the **RECORD** Armando, you're going to **CLAIM** Ireland spent the PREMIUM Picks 12 and 42 on a part time project. A guy Philbin will basically only use on 3rd downs until he gains weight/develops/learns techniques, etc, etc.....?

Okey Dokey!!!!

Armando, lets get this straight: For The Record!

According to YOU then, Jeff Ireland used the 12th and 42nd picks of the draft for a Part time project?

Is THAT what you're REALLY going to CLAIM-LOL?

Tell me Armando, how many **OTHER** GM's use premiums picks like THAT on a guy that will only play on 3rd downs?

Watch the tape on Jordan. He struggled setting the edge in the Pac 12. He's 248 lbs with 3% body fat. He'll struggle to gain **OUNCES** let alone pounds.

The guys skillset is Fv cking Perfect to play a 4-3 OLB and to be a 3rd down pass rusher/blitzer.

But, for the **RECORD** Armando, you're going to **CLAIM** Ireland spent the PREMIUM Picks 12 and 42 on a part time project. A guy Philbin will basically only use on 3rd downs until he gains weight/develops/learns techniques, etc, etc.....?

Okey Dokey!!!!

Armando, lets get this straight: For The Record!

According to YOU then, Jeff Ireland used the 12th and 42nd picks of the draft for a Part time project?

Is THAT what you're REALLY going to CLAIM-LOL?

Tell me Armando, how many **OTHER** GM's use premiums picks like THAT on a guy that will only play on 3rd downs?

Watch the tape on Jordan. He struggled setting the edge in the Pac 12. He's 248 lbs with 3% body fat. He'll struggle to gain **OUNCES** let alone pounds.

The guys skillset is Fv cking Perfect to play a 4-3 OLB and to be a 3rd down pass rusher/blitzer.

But, for the **RECORD** Armando, you're going to **CLAIM** Ireland spent the PREMIUM Picks 12 and 42 on a part time project. A guy Philbin will basically only use on 3rd downs until he gains weight/develops/learns techniques, etc, etc.....?

Okey Dokey!!!!

Armando, lets get this straight: For The Record!

According to YOU then, Jeff Ireland used the 12th and 42nd picks of the draft for a Part time project?

Is THAT what you're REALLY going to CLAIM-LOL?

Tell me Armando, how many **OTHER** GM's use premiums picks like THAT on a guy that will only play on 3rd downs?

Watch the tape on Jordan. He struggled setting the edge in the Pac 12. He's 248 lbs with 3% body fat. He'll struggle to gain **OUNCES** let alone pounds.

The guys skillset is Fv cking Perfect to play a 4-3 OLB and to be a 3rd down pass rusher/blitzer.

But, for the **RECORD** Armando, you're going to **CLAIM** Ireland spent the PREMIUM Picks 12 and 42 on a part time project. A guy Philbin will basically only use on 3rd downs until he gains weight/develops/learns techniques, etc, etc.....?

Okey Dokey!!!!

Armando, lets get this straight: For The Record!

According to YOU then, Jeff Ireland used the 12th and 42nd picks of the draft for a Part time project?

Is THAT what you're REALLY going to CLAIM-LOL?

Tell me Armando, how many **OTHER** GM's use premiums picks like THAT on a guy that will only play on 3rd downs?

Watch the tape on Jordan. He struggled setting the edge in the Pac 12. He's 248 lbs with 3% body fat. He'll struggle to gain **OUNCES** let alone pounds.

The guys skillset is Fv cking Perfect to play a 4-3 OLB and to be a 3rd down pass rusher/blitzer.

But, for the **RECORD** Armando, you're going to **CLAIM** Ireland spent the PREMIUM Picks 12 and 42 on a part time project. A guy Philbin will basically only use on 3rd downs until he gains weight/develops/learns techniques, etc, etc.....?

Okey Dokey!!!!

Armando, lets get this straight: For The Record!

According to YOU then, Jeff Ireland used the 12th and 42nd picks of the draft for a Part time project?

Is THAT what you're REALLY going to CLAIM-LOL?

Tell me Armando, how many **OTHER** GM's use premiums picks like THAT on a guy that will only play on 3rd downs?

Armando, lets get this straight: For The Record!

According to YOU then, Jeff Ireland used the 12th and 42nd picks of the draft for a Part time project?

Is THAT what you're REALLY going to CLAIM-LOL?

Tell me Armando, how many **OTHER** GM's use premiums picks like THAT on a project player that will only play on 3rd downs?

Watch the tape on Jordan. He struggled setting the edge in the Pac 12. He's 248 lbs with 3% body fat. He'll struggle to gain **OUNCES** let alone pounds.

The guys skillset is Fv cking Perfect to play a 4-3 OLB and to be a 3rd down pass rusher/blitzer.

But, for the **RECORD** Armando, you're going to **CLAIM** Ireland spent the PREMIUM Picks 12 and 42 on a part time project. A guy Philbin will basically only use on 3rd downs until he gains weight/develops/learns techniques, etc, etc.....?

Okey Dokey!!!!

Watch the tape on Jordan. He struggled setting the edge in the Pac 12. He's 248 lbs with 3% body fat. He'll struggle to gain **OUNCES** let alone pounds.

The guys skillset is Perfect to play a 4-3 OLB and to be a 3rd down pass rusher/blitzer.

But, for the **RECORD** Armando, you're going to **CLAIM** Ireland spent the PREMIUM Picks 12 and 42 on a part time project. A guy Philbin will basically only use on 3rd downs until he gains weight/develops/learns techniques, etc, etc.....?

Ok ey Do key!!!!

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Odin, Why are you up Early/ Or should I say why are you up so late?

Okay, so where is the proof that he will strictly play DE? Armando says this like it is a definite but we haven't heard anything from the coaches on this!

My thoughts: If there 2 DE's better than him but only 1 or 2 guys that are more disruptive at LB, play him there instead! Whatever you have to do to get the best 11 guys on the field at the same time. That is how he will be used.

Armando, kets get this straight: For The Record.

You're going to tell us Ireland used the 12th and 42nd picks on a project player that will basically only play on passing downs?

Armando, how many other GM's use premium picks like that on part time project players that need to gain weight and develop?

Watch the tapes on Jordan. He struggled to set the edge in the Pac 12. What do you think will happen to him in the NFL?

He's 248 LBS with 3% body fat. He'll struggle to gain ounces let alone pounds.

He has the perfect talents and skillset to play 4-3 OLB.

But you're going to go on record as saying: Ireland used the TWO premium picks on a project player that needs to gain weight, develop, learn techniques, etc, etc. And only play part time on passing downs?

Okey Dokey!!!!

Why the FVCK did I have to type , this, retype it and edit before I could submit it?

Was I being a little to harsh on you-LOL?

Bark,

Why you talking shyt this early?

I haven't posted in the past 24 hours?

PS: Armando would have deleted mine, if I posted what you posted 1st up there. What's up with that?

He was probably to bust denying my original **FOOTBALL** related posts!

Fvck Me!!!!

Armando, how many other GM's use premium picks like that on part time project players that need to gain weight and develop?

Odin, Only ONE G would..
Jeff(Idiot) Ireland.

Sorry, Only ONE GM Would.

Sorry Odin.
Let me repost.

Crazy how YG and Douchi posting drivel for 4 hours last blog.
Hopefully Mando will ban both of them...

Woodshed,

I'll bet Dollars to Doughnuts Mando's wrong on this.

At Oregon, Jordan played right around 230. He bulked up during the off season and leading up to the combine. In so doing, he got up to 248, but his body fat went down to 3%.

Rookies don't come into training camp in S.Florida and gain weight. The noem has been guys come in and lose weight as the season grinds on.

With a body fat of 3%, Jordan would have trouble gaining weight just sitting on the couch eating pizza's and Burger King.

Jordan couldn't set the edge in the Pac 12 and at this level, he'll get eaten alive. And it's not just his weight either. He couldn't handle the Pac 12 tackles, but suddenly he'll be able to handle the AFC's best?

Mando has visions of a new Jason Taylor. But it just ain't happening. Philbin and Coyle know better.

Maybe, eventually Jordan will bulk up enough and learn to be a DE. But Ireland and Philbin didn't use there 12th and 42nd picks on a project, part time player.

Jordan will start from day 1 and be a 3 down player. He might line up at DE on **SOME** 3rd downs. But 1st and 2nd downs he'll be playing a hybrid 4-3 OLB.

Odin, Only ONE G would..
Jeff(Idiot) Ireland.

Posted by: Bark Odin,Bark/Sit YG,Sit. | May 13, 2013 at 04:47 AM
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That's the WHOLE Point, right there Buddy.

If he's a part time project(as Armando alludes too)then Ireland, Philbin and Coyle are ALL Idiots!

If they use him and ALL his NATURAL talents for what he's perfectly suited for: An NFL 4-3 OLB, then their ALL Geniuses!

Armando's obviously still on the REBOUND from JT! Everywhere he looks he sees the NEXT JT-LOL!

Mando, it's "DJ"......**NOT**......"JT".

Got it? Good! Now Get Over It!

Crazy how YG and Douchi posting drivel for 4 hours last blog.
Hopefully Mando will ban both of them...

Posted by: Bark Odin,Bark/Sit YG,Sit. | May 13, 2013 at 04:54 AM
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That's Better!

Thanks ;)

I had to get up Early. I'm going down to Detroit to pick up a Guitar.

I'm buying another Telecaster. This ones from a cousin of mine. It's a Black Top Telecaster with a semi-hollow body and dual Humbuckers!

The standard Black Tops go for about 500 to a 1000.

This one that my Cousin has is super rare and worth a ton because it's a semi-hollow body!

I've been trying to get this Guitar out of him for about a decade. Ash Wood Grain finish, solid Maple neck, Nickel Silver frets and machine Heads, Badass Brass Nut.....

I have to stop or I'm going to need a wet-wipe!

He was a consensus top five pick! Since when is a that a consensus top 5 pick and the top defensive player in the draft a project? The Dolphins traded up for him, not a LT or Tavon Austin. Obviously, the Dolphins see something in how to use him that the rest of us do not just yet. Regardless of where he plays (DE or LB), he will be one of the fastest guys on D. I trust Coyle will know how to use him.

we will see, but I give Ireland credit for going for an impact player, you always take a chance no matter who you draft. but Jordan he could be an awesome player, if he is Ireland will long smart if not well you already what if not. At least Ireland had some nuts this time and I would rather draft a pass rusher than an o lineman again, Just how much impact did jake long have for all the money the dolphins paid him.

Ireland will look smart I meant to say

He will play what Coyle tells him to play when he tells him to play it.

That is all I need to know.

Coyle showed last year and throughout his career that he is a solid DC. I'll trust his judgement in getting the most out of Jordan, Taylor and others.

Maybe we should let the guy play before we analyze the pick?

Not every player excels at everything, but generally speaking, with the proper coaching, superior athletes can develop and excel at new skills. Dion is a superior athlete. No doubt he now has a superior coaching staff.

Like Ticks On A D'ck. You FF! I Can't Shake You Off.

Give it a Break. 4 :00am and Dashi Is The First Thing On Your Mind.

And I am The Problem. Sure.

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Mando,,

Good Post.

But Again.

You Are Talking About Your Opinion.

Who Confirmed This For You?

It Wasn't Practice. DJ Can't Practice Yet.

Coyle Uses Multiple Fronts. So Our DEs Need To Line Up At LB From Time To Time. Even Wake.

Next You Are Going To Tell Us If DJ Doesn't Produce Double Digit Sacks. He Is a Bust.

The Fins Drafted The Best Defensive Prospect Available. I Trust If They Envision Him Like Jason Taylor. They Will Try And Use Him Like JT.

Clearly its no mystery Armando......

Most on here can see the on the writing tea leaves....the dude is a D-end....that is what he will dominate his opponents as...and that his how he will force turn over (pressures/sack/false starts) to help this team win....

Move him around to create mis-matches all over the field......but the dude is a DE.....

Like Ticks On A D'ck. You FF! I Can't Shake You Off.

Posted by: Dashi | May 13, 2013 at 07:52 AM


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Leave it to blog filth mouth dashi to start the morning off in the gutter. What a sick pod.

Sounds like he is speaking from experience. We can only imagine where he got those ticks from.

FINS get 30 seconds of air time on NFLN @ the bottom of the hour....yay.....

he has to start at OLB. with him and wheeler on the other side they're probably the fastest tandem of olb in the league. Start Odrick at DE against the run. Now we have Misi for special teams and depth. great teams have depth and thats what theyre trying to build here. They said they wanted to get younger and faster and thats exactly what theyre doing.

Cameron Wake is #88 on the NFL's top 100......

BS.....

15 sacks gets you #88 out of the top 100 last year....this team and players are disrespected on EVERY level....

WE have to WIN to change this perception.....

Philbin and crew have a MONUMENTAL task to change the way the NFL see's our MIAMI DOLPHINS.....

FINS get 30 seconds of air time on NFLN @ the bottom of the hour....yay.....

Posted by: Kris | May 13, 2013 at 08:00 AM

Are you suggesting they've earned more?

The network needs to appeal to mass interests to keep the most viewers. When a team is irrelevent for decades, you don't merit much attention.

Has Ireland been fired yet?

Goodall....

I don't disagree....see my post @ 8:04....it is a bit more clear....

Most Of Our DEs Can Line Up As A 3-4 OLB. And Our OLBs Can Line Up Inside In A 3-4.

Coyle Likes To Use Multiple Fronts.

It Would Be A Waste Of A Pick. If We Only Pigeon Hole DJ To 1 Position.

If Ireland Wanted A DE That Only Rushes The Passer He Could've Stayed At 12.

Ireland Drafted A Playmaker. The Best Defensive Prospect Available.

They Will Find Ways To Put Him On The Field. And Creative Ways To Use Him.

I Would Even Overload One Side And Have Wake At DE And DJ At OLB.

The Possibilities Are Endless With This Kid.

Zonk,

When Ireland gets fired, you will just be here all day saying the new guy is worse than Ireland.

So be happy he is still here.

Jason,

Are you a cuckold?

@7:59.

You Truly Have No Life.

You Run Your Mouth At 4:00am and Then Say The Other Guy Is Mean When He Responds To Your Senseless Allegations.

Then Add The Fact You Take Ticks On A D'ck Literal.

Give It A Break Cornwallis.

I agree he has to be a DE if he is our 2nd best pass rusher. Remember all those plays JT made from the LBer position? Me neither but I do remember him a lot more coming around the end of the line at the DE position chasing QB's.

Also no mystery that we're going 12-4 this year, dudes.

#winning

Kind of an Eric Kumerow-like vibe coming from this artcile.

Frank from PA,
Jordan was not a 'consensus' top five pick or considered the top defensive player in this draft. PFW only had him as the 2nd best OLB for crying out loud. And mock drafts having him taken by Philly was only because he played for Kelly, not because he was considered that good.
He'll get crushed at RDE, and he'll always struggle against the run.
Time will tell of course. Hopefully he'll be all that we hope he can be.

Massdolphan KC was considering three players with the first pick and Jordan was one of them. Every mock draft on the net and you can check this, didn't have him dropping past #7. McShay had him as the best defensive prospect in the draft. Maybe you were out of the country for the month of April.

Duh,,,what dummy asked Mando what position Jordan would play? IN college he played ????? , defensive RUSH end. He rushes the QB and hits him about mid trunk, knocking the ball to the ground and giving said QB contusions or at least very sore ribs. "A QB can't throw TDs laying on his back". As stated by NY Giants QB, Y.A. Tittle after the NFL championship game against I think Baltimore Colts, 1959. Date and team may be wrong.

Just real quick like... so I don't blow any very weak fuses whining about Dion Jordan....

The guy here... yeah you... saying that a pass rushing DE is a waste of a 1st round pick is an IDIOT...

BTW.... The two guys taken before Jordan... Are playing RIGHT TACKLE.... and your talking about Miami wasting a pick on a player who was the highest ranked DE/OLB in the draft.... Jesus people are stupid.

don't care as long as he makes impact plays

Everyone forgets that the 21 year old, Vernon has had a year to grow and mature. He will be a beast! Our defensive line is our strength. If Jordan was strictly a DE, I don't think he could be a starter.

Jordan will be an OLB. He will be a gap rusher on blitzes and with his speed, heigth and long arms he will be a force to deal with.

The first two players in this draft should make our defensive backfield as fierce as our defensive line.

And don't forget, the coaches are raving about Kaddu.

Last year's draft will define this football team for years to come. If this year turns out just half as good, we will be on ESPN and NFL network often.

Just check out the sports science video on this guy and that should answer the question.

Rush the QB and disrupt the passing game...period.


Dion has the longest arms in the NFL...should be plenty of batted balls if he cannot reach the QB.

I agree with the critics who say he's not good at setting the edge on rushes going outside...that's what coaches are for, to teach young minds new technique.

I'm happy we have him and believe he'll be an impact player for us and that's all you ask for in a #3 pick.

I think he will play the B U S T position.

If they wanted to move Jordan off the end for a play without a substitution, it seems to me they could move Misi to his end position and line DJ from any number of rush positions. Assuming Misi doesn't lose his job to Jenkins.

I disagree that the way to beat Brady is with pressure.You beat Brady by covering the slot receiver and the tight ends for 3-4 seconds till the rush gets there. Wake, Starks, Solei and Vernon can get after Brady just fine.

Drafting Jordan and Taylor to help Jones cover those positions is very clever.

What is wrong with having an OLB who has long arms for tipping and batting down balls, can cover athletic tight ends, and if you blink, can knock your QB out.

And for those of you who think Clemmons is a liability, remember, he had everybody's back last year. And he did a pretty damn good job. His speed and tackling ability is hard to replace.

He asked for a 1 year contract because he believes better corners will allow him to stand make plays that will make him more money.

I checked mock drafts by all the major draft publications (not the Internet) and the highest they had Jordan going was 18th.
BTW, PFW is the highest rated draft publication going. If you did not check their draft publication, you did not do your research.
Jordan had 2 passes defensed and zero interceptions his entire college career. Folk's projections of him batting down passes and covering TE's in the NFL are not supported by any evidence. And you don't draft a guy 3rd overall to cover TE's.
He was a part time player in college.
I just cannot drink the Jordan koolaid the rest of you are drinking.

I have a radical idea:

How about we wait and see how a 22-year-old rookie plays and develops before we nominate him to the Hall of Fame or consign him to bust status before the kid has played even a SINGLE down of football at the pro level?

Yeah, I know...crazy.

I think its hilarious that some here on convinced Jordan will be great and therefore the right pick. While others think he is going to be a bust and therefore the wrong pick. That would be the case regardless of who was selected by the Fin's.

If they moved up to get Johnson at #3 we would have the exact same discussion.

If they moved up to get Austin...same thing.

If they stayed at 12 and took any other player...same thing.

How about lets let the coaches see what Jordan can do in the different camps and lets see him play when the season starts? Then we will will know if the pick made sense. Until then we are all just wasting our time and breath (I mean key strokes).

My take on Jordan is different than Mando's. I don't want to peg Jordan as a pass rushing specialist and 4-3 DE only.

I would want him to shine at OLB and DE in a 4-3 and OLB when they go 3-4 at times throughout each game. If he could shine in all these positions it would only suggest that he is a top talent and well worth the pick at #3.

I agree with those who say he would be great in Misi's spot. If he lined up on the same side as Odrick (DE) and could blitz or drop back to cover TE's or backs out the backfield, it would cause every QB to have to plan for him in multiple ways.

Either way...I want to see him with 7+ sacks his rookie season, 4+ batted passes and 25+ tackles. That would be a strong rookie season showing.

Lawrence Taylor.

I'm Not Saying He Will Be As Good. Just That He Has That Ability.

LT Was Drafted #2 Overall. He Rushed The Passer And Covered TEs.

LT Was A OLB, Not A DE.

Glad to see the coaches are learning from their mistakes. If a player does something well, then don't mess with it thinking you're smarter than everyone else. Reggie Bush was a scatback that was great out of the backfield. Of course, the coaching staff decided not to use him that way until the end of the year (to very good results).

Now they have this big kid, in the JT mold, who's known to be a good pass rusher. Hmm, should we make him a linebacker? Thank you Joe Philbin for utilizing the talent you have properly.

By the way, I agree with jpao, I don't know if Jordan will be all he's billed to be. I don't know if he was worth moving up. I just feel good about it, feel good about my team, and am optimistic this move will pay off in the end. But when I see it I'll believe it.

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