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Dolphins four-wide package a big upgrade

OTA days don't directly translate to regular season success. Players that look brilliant in shorts sometimes fade in the padded violence of games. But OTA do speak to alignments and the vision of a coaching staff. They do serve to provide a glimpse of what may be coming in those areas.

And that's why the Dolphins four-wide set during Tuesday OTA was intriguing.

Mike Wallace. Brain Hartine. Brandon Gibson. Dustin Keller.

Two speedy receivers who have both had 1,000-yard seasons. A proven big, physical reciever that can work the middle and occasionally get deep. And a seam-threat receiver who has a reputation for uncovering quickly and making himself available to his quarterback.

Boom.

We've come a long way from Hartline, Anthony Armstrong, Davone Bess and Anthony Fasano“Yeah you know we’re still learning, but I’m excited about what I see from those guys. They’re all getting a grasp on the offense and we’re starting to get a lot of reps with each other, so (we’re going to) continue to work that to .

If this group stays healthy, there is little reason to doubt that Miami, 26th in the NFL passing the ball in 2012, can become an efficient, effective and scary pass offense that threatens a defense in multiple ways.

"Yeah you know we’re still learning, but I’m excited about what I see from those guys,"quarterback Ryan Tannehill said. "They’re all getting a grasp on the offense and we’re starting to get a lot of reps with each other, so (we’re going to) continue to work that to get better. I'm excited about what they bring to the team and what they showed today."

There wasn't tons to show during Tuesday OTA because it happened in mostly slippery, wet conditions. In fact, that's the first thing Wallace addressed.

Yeah I forgot about that part when I came here, but it’s all a part of it so it’s fine," he said.

That's perhaps the reason everyone looked a step slow to Wallace -- particularly Keller and Gibson.

“I learned about those two guys that they look a lot better on the field than in off-season drills," Wallace said. "They looked a little slow out there but then they get on the field and they’re a lot faster on the field than in workouts."

Part of playing fast is knowing what you're supposed to do. Wallace, Keller and Gibson are still figuring that out to a degree.

“It’s fairly different, fairly different," Keller said comparing the Miami system to that of the New York Jets. "I think pretty much everything in the NFL is all related, but you have different terminology and just different ways of running these things. All in all, it’s fairly similar."

When the players get the system figured out, when they get in proper shape, when they find a comfort level for their roles, then the four-wide package in Miami might become a staple of the passing game. At least, I hope so.

 “I’ve always kind of said it’s a passing league, you have to run the football but you have to be very multi-faceted, but you have to be able to throw the football and do it effectively," Hartline said. "Have depth have guys that can do many different things brings a lot to the table."

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Good times indeed Jack!, who among us can say he's had billionaire snapper?

Not me .. I had one millionaire ... maybe two ... but no billionaires

Dashi, you know how bullish I am on Jamar Taylor. I'm more excited about him than anyone else we drafted. He will start fast and soon.

To That Guy,

Blocking?

So You Are Telling Us, You Are Blitzing Or Stacking The Box When We Go 4 Wide.

Love To See That Happen. And Keller As A Slot WR Can Help With Blocking.

Teams Can't Even Have 3 LBs On The Field If We Go 4 Wide.

5 Linemen Versus 4 Down Linemen. Maybe 2 LBs. And 1 LB Is Going To Worry About Keller Or Egnew Running A Route.

The Dolphins Pass To Run The Ball. Not The Other Way Around.

oh and clemons has good speed but hes a 4.4 guy

Posted by: Mark in Toronto | May 22, 2013 at 02:00 PM

Ditto Mark. I think he'll come out of the gate faster than any of the other rooks

SNAPPER...HAHAHAHAH
I havent heard that in a minute...

woooo...

No millionaire snapper over here...mainly just psychosnapper...

Bad Karma for the niners....Michael Crabtree tears Achilles during 49ers OTAs...lets hope everyone makes it out of dolphins otas with no injuries which is a win itself regardless how people look

4 WRs vs Pro Style ground and pound

It's funny because what made me a Miami fan in the late 80's and early 90's was Marino throwing all game, all the time. It was fun and exciting football.

In the same breath what made me a fan of Michigan football actually had more to to due with the Fab 5 but then the ground and pound, Pro style approach became what I loved about the program (until Rich Rodriguez of course).

I really like the idea of 4 wides on the field in a non-traditional set with a TE slotting out or split wide. Green Bay does it, Saints do it, Falcons do it. They all have great QBs which makes it look great and thats what Miami is obviously banking on. I believe in Tannehill and I haven't believed in anyone except in Miami since Marino. There was a hope but with a long pause going into year 3 for Henne but that faded very early in that season.

I'm ecstatic with the new group at WR and TE and with Tannehill leading the way. I'm expecting a coming out year for Tannehill in Miami with his new receivers and a year under his belt.

Got some good OTA summary from the Sun-Sentinel.

Best news is that Grimes sounds healthy breaking up 3 passes in the 11 on 11 drills.

Thank god they dumped Smith.

Still need a legit #2 Wide Receiver

SuperPhin, that's a huge loss for the niners. Ouch. More passes for Vernon and Boldin I guess. Nice to have that kind of depth though.

Last Year We Ran Alot Of 3-4 Wide. We Just Had A Bunch Of 4,5,6s.

Lord knows I know psychosnapper ... and golddiggingsnapper ... and I'mhavingyourbabybutI'mreallynotsnapper ... wait, think that's a subset of psychosnapper.

JPAO,

I second that. Sean Smith didn't have much a of a market but for all the criticism Miami has gotten for over paying some guys they targeted what on earth were the Chiefs thinking? 3 years $18M with $12M guaranteed for a guy who's never put together a full season of consitancy.

AndyNJ,

I agree...entirely too much for a CB who will have very few INT's and pass break ups. Tackles like a wuss too.

If Grimes can return to his pro-bowl form that would be a huge upgrade for this defense.

You got to love President O'Brien second term.

LMAO Mark...total subset of psychosnapper...

Positivity outweighing negativity? Must be at the wrong blog. Hmmm.........?

Well mando hasn't caught on to the good vibes yet but most of the posters are in a good fram of mind

What a foot in the ass for Sean Smith and Vonte Davis. Both 2013 starting corners may both be wearing #21 and #24.

#24 Jamar Taylor
#21 Brent Grimes

Show them what a real cb combo looks like boys!

The #19 need be permanently retired in Miami.

Well, got admit, my Brandon Marshall jersey does allow me to represent the dolphins while changing my car oil.

Una momento por favor....................

Smith & Davis were the Parcells/Ireland picks imagine that!!! Ireland is just trying to cover up his prior FALIURES!!! Love the idea of the long lost passing game FINALLY, might be able to get some fans to go to the game!!! BOYCOTT ALL ROSS' FEMININE LOGO PRODUCTS!!! GO FINS!!!

I sport a BM hersey when I have the temptation to slap some hoes around...you know, just for sport...no malice...

jersey

Salgo, Dios este contigo!


I sport a BM hersey when I have the temptation to slap some hoes around...you know, just for sport...no malice...

Posted by: Jack! | May 22, 2013 at 02:45 PM

Is it legal to slap some hoes while changing car oil?

Offense will be dynamic this year IF and only IF the O line gels properly and is able to provide good run blocking as well as pass protection. To all who don"t think we have any running game cause of running backs, that's not what is going to determine it< the talent at running back is plenty good if not well above average and the talent at receiver and QB is not i question either. It all comes down to the O line as always in this league if you want a complete and balanced offense.

Jack,

When are you going to do something about your immense girth? It is unhealthful and disgusting to observe.

I must tell you there is also an 'odor issue' because of your inability to 'reach everywhere' that needs to be cleaned, wiped, etc.

Please take control of this situation.

4 wide makes run game better. Spreads the defense. Especially for zone blocking and O line that can quickly hit second level blocking.

THe reason why we didn't address the RB posistion any further than releasing Bush, can be seen at the link posted \/ (below)...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7khPECxIbxY

Hmm...only if they interfere while changing the filter out 12

Because I Care...I don't.

Jack,
When are you going to do something about your immense girth?

Posted by: Because I Care | May 22, 2013 at 02:56 PM

That's what she said...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7khPECxIbxY

Posted by: GulfDolphin | May 22, 2013 at 02:59 PM

Video showed about 25 of Miller's 2013 runs. Only saw a couple less than 4yds. Still we're talking at least 40-45% of Miller's 2012 runs were 4ypc or more. Very nice!

Relax these are only OTAs. I would like to see them in 4 wideout formations more often this year.


The #19 need be permanently retired in Miami.

Posted by: 12-IN-YUR-ASS! | May 22, 2013 at 02:34 PM

I'd prefer burning it..

Two things I find ridiculous... The "Dolphins have no running game" and "The line is terrible" comments. They lost Bush and Long. Not exactly game changers, fins didn't have a winning record with either, and Long finished the last two years on the IR.

Please point out a game where Bush or Long put the team on their back.

Personally I think Miller will be a better RB than Bush. Martin should be better this year, and Long wasn't exactly stellar for the Dolphins last year (if you actually watch the games).

To be fair, Bush did have a couple of days that he was the entire offense and resulted in victories. 2 years agao against Buffaloa nd last year v the Raiders. Howeveer, I don't have any concern going forward with Miller.

And Long was a four time pro bowler. Is he the same player? Who knows right now. That is a question mark but the early indications from Martin are good.

By the way, apparently Odrick completely falmboozled nate Garner on one play in OTAs playing DT. Blew him right back up into the RB. I will keep harping on it, this defense will be a lot more dynamic with him playing more snaps at DT than DE.

Just a 4 wide set? We already have more on the roster to even compete with these four new FA's. Last year-at least 2 games lost by missed FG's, but we should probably be glad how that came out--once the reality bug bites, the record is what it is. Whether we have more wins than last year doesn't matter to me if the Phins, as a team, don't improve overall. We will know it if we see it (doens't mean we won't feel disappointment if we don't get at least 7 wins). We could end up with same record, but be very much improved. Of course, no one will be happy to say that if it happens, but we have to give the process time to continue to develop. The FO has made efforts to redesign this team into a winner. The players have to justify the trust thrown into their wallets to make it work, and the coaches need to recognize how best to use the talent. We can go deep in the PO's but, let's not kid ourselves to think we are (yet) a SB level team. Gettin there, though, and I feel more genuinely excited to watch it all unfold., but I think I am still being a tentative realist.

So Martin has made progress physically on a personal level in the off-season,will Egnew be able to duplicate this off-season self-interest, and stay in the business and prove all the nay-sayers wrong.

What killed it for me regarding Long was watching him get SCHOOLED by Freeny last year...4 years ago I could be a little more forgiving...but 2012 Freeny??? C'MON MAN!

That Wasn't L.Millers Highlights. That Was Basically His Whole Season. 30 Some Carries. And All 6 Catches.

Rarely If Ever He Got Tackled For A Loss. L.Miller Falls Forward. And You See On The Stretch Play What I Am Talking About. Even At The NFL Level. Guys Have Trouble Catching Up. Even If They Have The Angle.

Only 1 Cut In The Backfield. No Shimmying. Plant And Go. Make Them Catch Up To You. And Rarely Will Someone Catch L.Miller With A Stop And Go Move.

Mark, the Raider game did come to mind for me as well, but the whole team was clicking in that one. Bush did have the one run that sealed it (I believe after the Raiders finally scored). Though still 2 games out of 32. The Sky is falling :)

Mark, where you reading this other info?

So according to Mickey Shuler this is basically what the Jets were running last season only now it is with our much better athletes?
Yeah right.
Like that's gonna work better for us than for them.

Think Sergio would invite me over for some fried chicken?..

Im hungry...

Common sense, that's a great question. Isn't it something our beloved reader Mando should be spilling out here?

Instead I have to lift it from james Walker at ESPN and Omar Kelly at the SS and bring it over here because Mando is too concerned with who gets the Super Bowl in the year 2567.

R.Brown Was Supremely Talented And Highly Inconsistent.

R.Bush Was The Same Way.

R.Brown We Actually Drafted By The Fins. R.Bush Was Signed(Traded) For Peanuts By Ireland.

Both Only Ever Had 1-1000yd Season. (K.Abdul-Jabbar Also Had 1-1000yd Season)

Only 1 RB In Fin History Has More Than 2 - 1000yd Seasons. Ricky Williams.

All Other Dolphin RBs Should Be Considered Like The QBs After Marino. Nobodies.

Armando, please get your hand off your c o c k and write some blogs wasnt this OTA open to media members?

Dashi,
Are you saying all of the QBs after Marino are nobodies including Tanne & Moore?
Or are you saying that Henne is the last nobody and we finally hit it correct with Moore and Tanne?

Last year, most NFL pundits said we'd be lucky to win 3 games! Well, we did better than that and the words "playoffs" were actually used in the same sentence with the Dolphins towards the end of the season. But, there's been so much Doom-n-Gloom associated with the team, some fans don't know how to act when the team begins looking improved. (Some beat writers too, apparently). We're better in all areas right now (at least on paper) and it won't be long before the Pre-season games begin. And, then the regular season! Anyone who thinks we will have a losing season this year isn't paying attention! Or, you're just another stupid troll...and, they seem to get dumber every year...

Last year, most NFL pundits said we'd be lucky to win 3 games! Well, we did better than that and the words "playoffs" were actually used in the same sentence with the Dolphins towards the end of the season. But, there's been so much Doom-n-Gloom associated with the team, some fans don't know how to act when the team begins looking improved. (Some beat writers too, apparently). We're better in all areas right now (at least on paper) and it won't be long before the Pre-season games begin. And, then the regular season! Anyone who thinks we will have a losing season this year isn't paying attention! Or, you're just another stupid troll...and, they seem to get dumber every year...

Correction to JoseCuervo @4:02:

Since the Phins drafted Tannehill they obviously felt Moore was a nobody also. Keep in mind that first Ireland tried to get Payton, then Orton, the re-sign Henne, then trade up for RG3 or Luck and then reached for Tannehill and pretended that was who he wanted all along.

So Dashi the only question is: Is Tanne a somebody or a nobody?

Also I don't share your opinion of Marino.

why are some so down on the running game? running game by committee works for plenty of teams, and we have 3 talented guys with young legs that have flashed at times and all look to have good potential......Thigpen looked ok too with limited carries--this group will be fine.

Cuervo,

You Got It Right The 2nd Time.

All Qbs Til Tannehill Are Nobodies.

Moore? Seriously.

The Only Reason Moore Has A Following Is Cause Henne Sucked. Same Reason Some Think Gillslee Has A Shot, Cause D.Thomas Sucks.

Other Than That They Wouldn't Waste Any Time Discussing The 2.

They tried to re-sign henne and sign Orton after the 2011 season? Was I asleep for those 15 minutes?

Peyton yes they tried and I remember a short inquisition regarding RG3 but never a serious attempt. I mean, how can you top that offer they got from the skins.

Benz,

Agreed.

L.Miller
D.Thomas
M.Thigpen

Make A Solid Young Trio With Some NFL Experience. All 3 Are Good Recievers Also.

Miller And Thigpen In The Shotgun With T-Hill. You Can Motion Either One Out Wide.

Keller lining up in a 4 WR, talk of Egnew and Yeatman as starters. This sounds bigger than just 4 WR sets. It sounds like Philbin and Sherman have built the kind of team to run that fast pace offense they talked about fielding last year. They have the kind of versatility to quickly sub in guys anywhere to take advantage of however the defense decides to play us.

I could also see us lining up with Egnew, Keller, Sims and Clay in goal line situations.

Ireland Signed M.Moore Instead Of Wasting A Pick To Get Orton.

Peyton Manning. Enough Said. It Is P.Manning. Greatest Qb Of All Time. Who Wouldn't Try?

And T-Hill Was Always In The Fold. Sherman Was The Only One That Didn't Go To T-Hills Pro Day. The Jags Were Basically Giving The #7 Pick Away So The Fins Couldn't Draft Him. People Wanted The Fins To Trade With Cleveland So They Can Draft T-Hill At #4.

But You Know Best.

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