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How the trades are playing out for the Dolphins

Within the last year the Dolphins have made three intriguing (some would say controversial) trades that exchanged players for draft picks -- the present in exchange for the future.

Well, the future has arrived in the form of actual people. So now we can look at what the Dolphins got in return for trading Brandon Marshall, Vontae Davis and Davone Bess.

In the spring of 2012, the Dolphins traded Marshall to the Chicago Bears for two third-round draft picks, one in 2012 and one in 2013.

The Dolphins used the pick last year in a trade down with San Diego but the outgrowth of that trade was the selection of tight end Michael Egnew with the 78th overall selection and the selection of receiver B.J. Cunningham with a sixth-round pick, the 183rd overall selection.

This year, Chicago's third rounder was the 82 overall pick.

The Dolphins traded that pick to New Orleans for two fourth-round selections, Nos. 106 and 109 overall. The Dolphins then picked TE Dion Sims with the 106th overall selection.

The Dolphins traded 109th overall selection, a fifth-rouner (146 overall), and a seventh-rounder (224 overall to Green Bay for the 93th overall pick, which is a third rounder. With that pick, the Dolphins selected Will Davis, the cornerback out of  Utah State.

Bottom line for the Marshall trade?

The Dolphins traded Marshall, a fifth-rounder, and a seventh-rounder for Michael Egnew, B.J. Cunningham, Dion Sims and Will Davis.

The Dolphins traded Bess, a staple at the slot receiver position since 2008, plus their fourth-rounder (111 overall) and a seventh-rounder (217 overall) to the Cleveland Browns during draft weekend. The Browns sent Miami a fourth-rounder (104 overall) and a fifth-rounder (164 overall).

The Dolphins used the fourth-round pick on linebacker Jelani Jenkins and the fifth-round pick on running back Mike Gillislee. 

Bottom line fof the Bess trade?

The Dolphins traded Bess, a fourth-rounder and a seventh-rounder for Jelani Jenkins and Mike Gillislee.

The Vontae Davis trade is much easier to follow. The Dolphins traded their former first-round pick to the Colts for a a second-round pick. The trade delivered the 54th overall selection in this draft.

The Dolphins used that selection on another cornerback -- Boise State's Jamar Taylor.

Bottom linne for the Davis trade?

The Dolphins traded Vontae Davis for Jamar Taylor.

It's going to be interesting how all this plays out eventually.

Marshall went to the Pro Bowl in Chicago as he had the year before for the Dolphins. Egnew was a tremendous disappointment as a rookie and B.J. Cunningham was cut last year. It's seemingly up to Sims and Davis to redeem this swap.

But you must remember, the Dolphins got rid of Marshall because he didn't fit their culture. They didn't like him arguing with teammates (Chad Henne, Davis, Igor Olshansky) or coaches. They were concerned about his domestic violence issues.

So, I suppose, they would argue trading Marshall helped team chemistry and whatever talent it brings is a plus. I would say if Marshall, who has not had any reported problems with teammates or the law in Chicago, continues to be a solid citizen for the Bears, this deal will be judged solely on talent. So the onus is on Egnew, Sims and Davis to bring some sort of return for Miami's move because Marshall has so far done that for the Bears.

The Bess trade is interesting. He had an injury issue with the team at the end of last season that seemed to cause friction. He wasn't going to get nearly as many targets this year with the addition of Mike Wallace and Brandon Gibson. So the Dolphins were comfortable not having him.

Of course, that assumes no one is injured this year. Having Bess as a No. 4 wide receiver is a solid fall back option. It certainly provides more certainty than Rishard Matthews, or Jeff Fuller or Armon Binns. So there is a bit of a gamble here.

Meanwhile, the Dolphins got a solid special teams performer and perhaps passing-down contributor in Jenkins. Gillislee? He has the feel of a special teams guy at best. It's going to be hard for him to be on the 53-man roster, in my opinion, based on his play at the University of Florida. He is good injury insurance, however.

The trade I'm most encouraged about, believe it or not, is the Davis for Taylor trade.

People I speak with around the league seem to love the Taylor pick. Jeff Ireland really liked that pick, too. There are whispers within the organization that if Taylor is consistently for the Dolphins what he showed at times at Boise State, he can win a starting job in Miami and be better than Davis.

If that's the case, the Dolphins would be getting good value for the trade -- starting cornerback for starting cornerback. If not?

You know the answer. 

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Craig. Read before u react to everything. I said, and i quote, if he doesn't decide to become a football player this year, he is a disaster. Fair enough? Or should we give him another pass if he totally sucks again this year? How about Bj Cunningham? He was the other player we netted in the deal. Do u have an excuse for guys that dont make the team too? Which Egnew might not btw. You have excuses than Congress. And why pick a fight with me on every post? Not like I am saying Marshall was a choir boy. But we gave up two number 2's for him remember? So we were ok with his attitude then. Geez dude, get a grip

Darkoak,

I don't see the point in cutting the guy. It's not like he's making a lot of money. By all accounts he's beefed up this off-season and you would expect his blocking to better. Why give him away for nothing, when we don't need to. The team kept FIVE TE's on the team last year. With the exception of Fasano and Clay can you think of anyone who made a contribution? I don't see the point in giving up on the kid and having him make it somewhere else. With the addition of Simms, I think the odd man out might be Clay or maybe he moves to more of a HB.

Andy stats sometimes lie, like yards and TDs picked up in garbage time of a game. But some do hold true like YAC, yards from scrimmage etc.

tvegas/Darkoak,

I take exception to someone who calls a third round pick who doesn't play, a 'disaster'.

tvegas, don't tell to get a grip or to re-read. How about you get a grip? Take a look around the league and THINK for a second about how many third round picks actually make it in this league. I bet it's something like 50 per cent. So because your THIRD pick doesn't shine in his first season or after, it's a disaster.

How about buying a clue before you spew your nonsense, something you pretty quick to tell other people to do because they commented on Armando's post. Hypocrite!

I Expect Big Things Out Of Egnew This Year.

He Was Being Molded Last Year.

You Guys Still Living Off The HK Tape Are Hilarious.

That Was 1 Meeting. And Sherman Has Probably Even Told T-Hill He Will Cut Him.

Sherman Held A lot Of Things Back Last Year. He Basically Gave Egnew And L. Miller A Redshirt Season.

He Made Sure T-Hill Wasn't Going To Run Around Until He Learns How To Slide. And Even Then He Forced T-Hill To Learn From The Pocket. With No Weapons.

Sherman Knows Not Only Will T-Hill Show Improvement. The Whole Offense Will Show Improvement.

Craig, Clay produces and is more versatile than Egnew. I get where you are coming from but re-read my post. I said cut him if he shows up and is as lost as last season and doesn't give maximum effort. He needs to prove himself this off-season and there needs to be a real punishment if he doesn't. The rest of the team needs to see that as well. No more collecting a paycheck on the sidelines you push to start or you are gone. You work to improve or you're gone. It's been so long since we had any depth on the team that we think we can't cut a guy for not being a professional.

Andy,

Like most things we're not going to agree. You're a stats guy. That's OK. I'm not looking to change you, honest. My opinion is that the media and fans put WAY too much emphasis on stats. Joe Montana never had the best stats in the league but I'd take him on my team any day of the week.

It's all cool man....I was actually just laughing at it earlier. Nothing wrong with two people seeing the world in different ways. I didn't actually read in detail what you said, I just thought your stat detail was amusing.

All the football experts and armchair GM's/coaches posting thier pearls of wisdom in response to another armchair GM's crappy article. Please. LOL!!!

I really love that idiot SUPER ALPHA's comments. Wow dude , you really shed some light on the whole Brandon Marshall issue. Gee, thanks mister football!

AndyNJ,

I guess you misssed my point about D Thomas running the ball in short yardage situations. I never said he was highly efficient. My point was that guys that are put in those situations will have fewer yards per carry and tend to have more fumbles because they are always running against an eight man front when everybody in the building knows its a run play coming. Tho O-line did not block well in those situations is my point. Lamar Miller ran against very few eight man fronts and his yards per carry reflect it. D Thomas will definitly need to step his game up but he is not nearly as bad as some of you suggest and I dont think L. Miller is nearly as good. I would have preferred Reggie over both of them. However none of them are in the Adrian Peterson class.Time will tell on both of these guys...

To the point someone made on the new TE Sims...I would say he reminds me more of Algee Crumpler than Fasano. Hes not just big up top but he has a huge lower body and I think this guy will be load to bring down with great hands to boot. Im definitely looking forward to what he will bring to the Dolphins.

Darkoak,

I'm not sure I would say Egnew wasn't trying last year. Yeah I saw the stuff where Sherman chewed him out in camp on Hard Knocks. Seemed like life in the NFL was a real wakeup call for this guy. But I got the sense from reading the comments from Sherman and Philbin during the season that Egnew was working hard to get better. He was being asked to do things he'd never done before and I think he was kind of lost. I agree, if the light doesn't come on for this guy at some point then I think he needs to be cut. I just don't see the logic in doing it too early. I'd hate to see this guy shining for some other team in the NFL because we were too impatient with him.

Craig, actually 3rd rd picks have way less chance than 50% of becoming 3 year starters. Statistically proven.

Hey Craig you and I are good always man. I don't care if people call Egnew the worst TE in the history of football. It doesn't affect my opinion of Egnew. Let the guy use whatever verbiage he wants it doesn't really matter. The gist is he's not a fan of Egnew.

dad@8:52; I have been right here- lurking rather than posting- from Free Agency through the draft.

I was right with you for more offensive firepower from the draft as I felt the team should have added 2 decent WRs with their high picks in the 1st 3 rounds. The trade up for Dion Jordan, while it may turn out to be great, left me wanting. It's not that I don't appreciate defense but I expected this year to be the year of offense. Plus, the Jordan pick seems as risky as many other moves Jeff Ireland has made this year. I am concerned about Jordan's lack of production but also this on PAC12 rushers:
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-draft/2013/3/20/4123210/2013-nfl-draft-datone-jones-dion-jordan-pac-12-pass-rushers

I was good with the Jamar Taylor pick until I read the bit about his kidney and high blood pressure troubles. Dallas Thomas, because of his injury, may be slow to develop this year. Will Davis is at least healthy but his aggressive play style may produce as much bad as good. It seems to me that, while the upside is evident, the first 4 picks carry more uncertainty than most GMs would want with their top picks. Dion Simms and the picks from UF seem like able bodies but at the NFL level, who knows.

I get that Ireland is depending on the risk/reward factor in FA and the draft to be high on the reward side, however it's an optimistic level I can't reach. We were all giddy with last year's draft but how many have proven out? We're still wondering and worrying about Tannehill, Martin, Egnew, Vernon, et al. And the coaches still have to show that they can make good, finished products from the raw materials.

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pujo,

Good points on Thomas. Everyone's down on the guy because he's not a star. Fair enough. But like Egnew, what's the upside of getting rid of him? To free up a roster spot? For who? Who's going to run in goal-line situations for us? Guys please don't say Miller. He's not that guy. And none of us have any clue if Gillislee can get it done or not. Time will tell.

Darkoak. Dont tell Craig to re read your post. He will only pick up on the things he wants to pick an argument about. He still thinks i said Egnew is a bust after one year, dor example. But he and others will take exception to Mando stating the facts when disecting Irelands trades. I think i stated it clearly. Until the new guys step on the foeld and guys like Egnew get a second look the grade is incomplete. However, as i stated 3 of the guys we got in return for the Marshall trade (this after giving up 2 sexind rounders to get him) have contibuted next to nothing thus far. Those are the FACTS thus far but Craig will argue in "what if" scenarios and "other 3rd rounders are busts all the time" excuses. So Ireland should just keep whiffing on them but, no problem, everyone does. Am i missing something here?

Mark,

thanks for the update on the third rounders.

what a sad sports city Toronto has become. The fans are euphoric when the Leafs make the playoffs and the Jays are back to playing their usual crap!! Sad all around...

Problem with Thomas is the fumbleitis and the concussion history. We may need a big body that can hang onto the ball to perform short yardage for us if Thomas doesn't work out. Again a player that needs to step up big time and show he can be better and stay on the field. He can be replaced with a free agent for sure especially if his role is now blocking and short yardage only.

Daniel Thomas and Miller will split carries with Thomas starting...

I just watched Jordan get run over by the Washington QB for a TD. This guy has no Hammer. He reminds me of Channing Crowder. Runs all over the field really tall and straight up and down.
Doesn't really put guys on the ground and get driven of the line, gives ground and runs around blocks to get to the play.
I predict he will never play in a pro bowl

Rather than focus on the value of one trade for another, the emphasis should be on comparing the roster then with the roster now.

In this case, you're comparing our wide receiver, tight end, and defensive back positions when we had Marshall, Bess, Fasano, Davis, and Smith versus the new line-up.

In this light, we are now comparing Wallace, Gibson, and Clemens against the three former receivers. On paper, I'd say it looks even but with a slight upgrade at TE.

With the db's, the picture is a little clearer... Smith and davis looked good on paper but were seldom together in games. They never settled into primary positions with Davis having injury issues and Smith having ego/consistency issues. This said, we knew they would be in the line-up.

So, if Grimes and Miller receive medical clearance and return to 100%, this might be an upgrade. If not, the position has hardly upgraded.

All in all, it's nice to see new faces, but far too foggy if they were really large upgrades.

The difference maker is the coach. If the offensive scheme keeps improving it will definitely appear we upgraded, even though the skillset of each player is almost identical. Point being, it's the coach and qb combo that will sell whether or not we really upgraded.

On defensive, the db's will look better if they create more turnovers. That stat has been horrible over the last few years and has definjtely kept us out of the postseason.

I'm optimistic, but cautiously so.

tvegas,

Actually that's it EXACTLY. You want to get all bent out of shape and say because a third rounder doesn't want make it, then it's a 'disaster'. Like I said, 'MELODRAMATIC'. Third rounders miss ALL THE TIME! You want to hold Ireland to another standard because he's not hitting on his third rounders. Mark's just indicated that they make it much less than half the time. But you don't want to listen.

So keep going in your own little world....I hope we're done.

MARK IN TORONTO:

I NEVER PLAYED FANTASY FOOTBALL.

I WOULDN't DO WELL CAUSE I WOULDN't EVER PICK AGAINST MY FINS.

I WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE ANY PLAYER DO GOOD AGINST US.

ON TO BRANDON.

I'm NOT SAYING TO GET HIM ANOTHER ELITE WR.

BUT WHY NOT?

SO I GUESS CALVIN JOHNSON IS A BUM TOO?

IS THAT WHAT YOU SAYING?

OR IF YOU ALLOW ME TO TAKE IT ANOTHER STEP.

BARRY SANDERS WAS A BUM?

I GUESS TRENT DILFER WAS BETTER THAN DAN TOO ACCORDING TO HOW YOU SEE THINGS?

WHAT I'm SAYING IS IT's A TEAM SPORT.

I CAN't DENY WHAT I SEE AND HE's A GREAT (PLAYER) BUT HE's NOT A (TEAM).

THE ONLY TEAM I CAN THINK OF THAT WON WITHOUT GREAT WEAPONS ON THE OFFENSE WAS THE RAVENS FIRST SUPERBOWL.

AND THEY WERE OK AT THE LEAST

Armando,
This article makes me cry! Facts are facts. And although I believe finally Ireland had a good free agency, and I am giving him the benefit of doubt, he does have a history of selecting terrible talent and making idiotic trades. But we'll see this year. You're right about letting Bess go if one of the starters gets injured, who will come in? Ireland did do an excellent job releasing over-paid, below-mediocre talent and collecting all that cap money, but unfortunately, I don't think this was a great draft to begin with as far as talented players. Only time will tell. LUCK (and not Andrew Luck) has not been with this time now for a very long time!

Justin, glad to see you made something of yourself. You're a good example for kids who start on the wrong path. Good for you. Stay strong. Now, Calvin Johnson and Barry Snaders played in the playoffs and don't brun bridges and leave teams a heaping pile of shite when they left. Anyway, it doesn't matter. marshall is gone, my only regret is that he came here to begin with. They gave it a chance and in the end he didn't want to be here and the team didn't want him either. It didn't work.. My advice is that you forget him and embrace the current players and coaches. marshall does nothing for us now - that book is closed.

Craig, I can't be disappointed in the leafs. they are a young and plucky group and showed lots of balls all year. I don't think that series is over and even if it is ... I'm satisfied.

The Jays?? FUKK me with a hacksaw what a steaming pile of shite.

Craig M,

No there are times dont matter like when comparing guys from different isn't fair. There are times it is fair.

In the case of D. Thomas and L. Miller it's more then fair they played behind the same Oline and Thomas was given a chance to take the reigns as it seemed they already were fazing R. Bush out and Thomas did nothing because he isn't a good enough player. L. Miller was given his chances late in the season and showed enough that R. Bush was not longer a must signing when they had plenty of money even after all the new additions to do so.

L. Miller gave the front office and coaches that confidence and not D. Thomas.

pujo,

No way were going to agree on D. Thomas and L. Miller I guess because I think Miller has the ability to be a big time player. Not saying he will but with his size and speed if he puts it all together I see a very good RB.

I do however like your assessment a lot on Dion Sims. That's a very well thought out comparison. Alge Crumpler wasn't the fastest guy but was quick enough to get open at times and used his frame, size and athleticism to make plays in the passing game. The inline blocking is another reason I like it. Good stuff!

I AGREE MARK.

I'm ON TO THE NEXT HE's NOT A FIN SO FU

I JUST DISAGREE ON BASHING ANY PLAYER WHEN IT COMES TO SAYING HE DIDN't TAKE A TEAM TO THE PLAYOFFS.

IT's A TEAM SPORT. AND THE WHOLE TEAM FAILED NOT MARSHALL.

I GOTTA GO TALK TO YOU GUYS SOON

GO FINS!!!!

THAT WAS SUPPOSE TO SAY F HIM

the 12:20 correction...makes the 12:19 post funny as he!!.....

L. Miller Reminds Me A lot Of C. Portis. And Not Just Because They Went To The U.

Similar Running Style. About The Same Speed. Portis Was A Little Faster. But For A Small Back They Can Run Between The Tackles. Portis Was A Good Zone RB.

Thurman Thomas Like. Marcus Allen If You Will.

What I Am Trying To Say Is L. Miller Has A Higher Ceiling Than Any RB We Have Had. Since Ricky Williams. Higher Than Ronnie Brown.

I'm Betting If L. Miller Stays Healthy He Gains Over 1200 yds. And Maybe Even 10 TDs. Better Than Any Year Reggie Has Had. Or Even Ronnie.

Yeah, the whole one player blamed for superbowl/playoffs is bs. Those who say Marino/Sanders weren't great because they didn't get a ring are idiots...

Personally I like Marshall, but he doesn't seem to help a teams production though individually he is a beast.

Can't wait to see what happens at T, personally hoping JMart can win the job.

For those who missed the Undrafted FA Miami signed.

WR Chad Bumphis
LB Michael Clay
WR Taylor Stockemer
OL Eric Bergman
DT Chris Burnette
OLB Alonzo Highsmith
DE Emeka Onyenekwu
WR Jasper Collins
LB Brandon Ogletree
QB Clay Belton
S Keelan Johnson
RB Cameron Marshall

Marino was the biggest choke artist ever. Never could perform in the biggest games.

Ireland...lol! What a joke of a GM. Can't we trade him to NE or Buff or NYJ? Please get rid of this monumental IDIOT.

Ireland plays checkers when all the real GM's are playing chess. He sux bad. But Ross doesnt care.

Truth....

You should add another name to you 1001/1002....

why don't you call yourself RANDOM....

cause your 12:43 statement was about as RANDOM as they come.....

do you have turrets ....

Kris, I laughed too. Although he wouldn't have been the first person to give me the big FU today or on most days ..

They signed the wrong Ogletree ...

218lbs is not exactly small. He's way bigger than Portis was.


Craig. Read before u react to everything. I said, and i quote, if he doesn't decide to become a football player this year, he is a disaster. Fair enough? Or should we give him another pass if he totally sucks again this year? How about Bj Cunningham? He was the other player we netted in the deal. Do u have an excuse for guys that dont make the team too? Which Egnew might not btw. You have excuses than Congress. And why pick a fight with me on every post? Not like I am saying Marshall was a choir boy. But we gave up two number 2's for him remember? So we were ok with his attitude then. Geez dude, get a grip

Posted by: tvegas | May 02, 2013 at 11:28 AM

It's easily explained like this:

He can't read & what he is able to read, he doesn't understand.

Just accept the fact that he's is smarter than everyone else here. This is his life. Pathetic.

Trying to belittle people he thinks are inferior to him. By responding to him, you give him the attention he requires.

Accept these facts like the other sheep & you'll be just fine.

What a mess without Long. Is the OL a weakness again?

Mark in Toronto,

My cousin Dave and I are both big Dolphans. He told me after the draft that he hated what miami drafted except for Taylor and Gillislee and would have gladly taken the STL Rams draft which included Austin, Ogletree, and Stedman Bailey. Ogletree is a beast but has a penchant for trouble. I will take the best DE prospect in the draft over a 5'8 174lbs slot receiver with great speed any day. Its too bad we didnt land a Bailey or Boyce but the coaches are high on Matthews so we will see.

Of the undrafted free agents, I hear that Highsmith is the one to watch out for. Sick talent but dropped due to medical reasons.

Soooooooooo.....................

Ireland turned Grandon Marshall into 4 draft picks(BJ Cunningham, Michael Egnew, Dion Sims, and Will Davis). All Ireland need do his bat 500 and this is a smashing success.

BJ Cunningham's no longer on the roster, but the coachin staff has been visably and verbally in glee with excitement about working with Egnew in camp this season. Seems only unknowledgeble dolfans are down on the prospects of this kid this year, not the coaching staff.

Now add in the prospects of Will Davis and Dion Sims, there's great chance the Brandon Marshall trade turns to 3 for 1 player swap, with Ireland farrrr...... ahead.

Jamar Taylor, as Ive said before, looks like a a Vontae Davis clone, with a brain and minus the unwanted baggage.

I guarantee Gillislee challenges Miller for the starting rb spot. Jelani will have an impact on st's and in pass defense packages. Not bad for a wr(Bess) who had fallen down to 4th wr at best, anyway.

Seems Ireland has come into his prime as a gm, and could eventually rival some of the greatest gm's to ever arrive in Miami. Go new logo fish!!!

YG,

Miller Has A Gear Gillislee Doesn't Have.

Gillislee Will Be A Good 3rd Down Back. Since He is a "better pass protector". And To Give L. Miller A Breather.

L. Miller Is The Most Talented RB On The Roster. That Isn't Even Up For Discussion. Hartline Has A Better Shot Beating Out Wallace For The #1 WR Spot.

Or Even M. Moore Over T. Hill. Well Not That Bad. But You Get The Point.

Glad marshall is gone. He had no problem letting people know when they messed up.How many times did he yell at himself for dropping passes , touchdowns, and causing int's due to cutting off routes so his 235 pound ace won't take a hit? Oh thats right , he blamed EVERYONE else for that stuff.

And here comes 'The truth is' (wink!wink!),

First of all not sure either one of us was talking to you. I took exception to the guy calling Egnew a 'disaster'. Bit overly dramatic for my liking. Now if you want to call what happened at the Boston Marathon a 'disaster' or the school shooting, I'd agree. When a third round pick doesn't make an impression in his first year in the NFL and it's call a 'disaster', I'd say we have a bit of a drama Queen on our hands.

The turth is, if you have a problem with me taking exception to that then too bad.

MARSHALL FOR EGGNEW WAS GREAT!!!!!

During the offseason, the coaching staff was spot at Toys R Us, purchasing a "Speak and Spell" lap top to bring Michael Egnew up to par. It's going to be a great year for Michael Egnew!

Frank, I really like the Dolphins draft. Another team that had a sick one two punch was Tennessee with Warmack and Justin Hunter. I could care less for Tavon Austin. I could take him or leave him. I do like Ogletree though and as far as taking a WR - i don't think it was a must - we have good depth there - very good.

Highsmith has the genes, don't know much else about him. personally I really like Keelan Johnson. He's making at least the practice squad. Great quicks, penchant for the ball with 5 picks- but he's weak. needs to get stronger.


The turth is, if you have a problem with me taking exception to that then too bad.

Posted by: Craig M | May 02, 2013 at 01:17 PM

I take exception with you being a loud mouthed buffoon.

I could care less what you think about anything. Only socially inept loser with no life or friends would actually read & take anything worthwhile from the constant bickering, nonsensical drivel you post here.

Cleared up for you hopefully? We know you don't understand diddly.

couldn't care less...

Mark,

I'm undecided on the draft right now. Love the trade up for Jordan and excited about Taylor, assuming he's fine medically. After that I put a big question mark. I like the positions they addressed but I just don't enough to know if these are the RIGHT guys. Time will tell. Not sure what else I could have expected. He took care of everything we basically need and I'm sure they'll figure out what to do at tackle.

Titans had a very good draft. Agreed. I also like what the Vikings did and I think the Chargers will be OK too. It's early but that's kind of my take on it right now.

Dashi,

I don't know how much Gillislee you watched in college. I watched a very fair share of him. Also, Gillislee is a local hs hero, 20 miles down the road from me. so I knew of him even before his Gator days.

Want to know what was the greatest offseason shocker about Gillislee was for me? His 4.5 40.

For the life of me, Im thinking it was just a bad running day, or he wasn't 100% healthy at the time. Because if you watch him in live game ation, his play speed resembles Kenyon Barner. If Gillislee is a true 4.5 speed guy, then his playing speed seems far greater.

Anyway, I much rather have a 4.5 guy like Gillislee who seems to play much faster. Than a 4.3 guy like Swope, who seems to actually play much slower.

Wait until you see Gillislee on the playing field. Youre not going to notice hardly a difference at all between his and Miller's burst and speed.

OK FINFANS

READY FOR THE POLL OF THE DAY?


WHICH WAS IRELANDS WORST MOVE?

A) M EGNEW

B) PAT WHITE

C) D THOMAS

D_P MERLING

E) DEZ BRYANT INCIDENT

CraigM,

I believe dolfans will be excited about Dion Sims once we see him catch the football. At 6'5 265lbs, this kid is going to be an absolute load to bring down.

I believe he'll remind us of Gronk in this manner. Tough to bring down is on his scouting report.

The turth is,

Hey maroon....

Obviously you DO care 'cause you keep fukking reading my comments and then commenting on it.

Cleared up for YOU hopefully?


BJ Cunningham's no longer on the roster, but the coachin staff has been visably and verbally in glee with excitement about working with Egnew in camp this season. Seems only unknowledgeble dolfans are down on the prospects of this kid this year, not the coaching staff.

Posted by: Yesterday's Gone 4Ever | May 02, 2013 at 01:07 PM

Gotta admit, I got a big chuckle out of this. Are you gullable, naïve or both?

Philbin & Ireland also said they had a plan for Bess. What happened to him? They said the same thing about a player last year too & POOF. Gone as well.

Certainly you can't believe everything you hear & read?!

Whatever they say about Egnew is to save face because they invested a relatively high pick on him & can't give up on him this quickly.

Nothing Ireland or Philbin say or how excited they look or how big they smile when talking about him changes anything.

Please, lay off the meth pipe & join the real world.

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