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Coaches digest the scrimmage buffet

The Dolphins coaching staff will meet today and go through Monday's night's scrimmage to see which players took steps forward and which stumbled as they prepare for three more days of practice starting Wednesday before they head to Canton, Ohio this weekend for the Hall of Fame game.

One of the issues the staff must manage is the wide receiver situation.

Brian Hartline and Mike Wallace were held out of the scrimmage. Hartline seemed to tweak a lower leg muscle, possibly a calf, in the warmups and drills prior to the scrimmage. Wallace was held out for an undetermined issue, although signs point to him also nursing some sort of minor injury. (Remember, the Dolphins do not comment on injuries and coach Joe Philbin didn't even address the media after the scrimmage. He addressed the crowd after many of them had already walked out. And he gave the media relations department two quotes about the scrimmage, neither of which addressed Wallace's absence. This, by the way, is not typical of NFL teams. Head coachess speak after practices and scrimmages and preseason games and regular season games and playoff games and Super Bowls. Win or lose).

At any rate, Philbin is expected to explain the Wallace absence Wednesday in some fashion because he is also not available to the media today -- a day off for the team.

It's really a shame about Wallace. No, I'm not too worried about the player's injury if that is what kept him out. Again, if he's injured it's minor. I'm sad for the franchise that is trying to increase a lagging season-ticket base and a growing disconnect from local fans. Last night the club had 22,876 interested fans in the stands -- more than the Patriots had at Gillette Stadium for a practice on the same night. All of those fans are potential season-ticket customers. I'm certain they all expected to see Ryan Tannehill (3 TD passes), Dion Jordan (one sack and one pressure), Cameron Wake and Mike Wallace.

And Wallace was only there to roam the sideline in his uniform but out of action. Shame.

That's not anyone's fault. It's just tough luck for the organization.

As to the rest of the wide receiver corps: Even as the team engages in talks about adding a body -- Laurent Robinson and Austin Collie are on the radar among others -- there will no doubt be a longer look at undrafted free agent acquisition Chad Bumphis.

Bumphis had two catches for 41 yards on Monday night. One of those was a 28-yard catch and run down the right sideline that showed both burst and field awareness. Bumphis has been mired on third and fourth teams so far in camp. If the scrimmage performance doesn't earn him more reps and perhaps some with the second team, it certainly puts him on the radar pior to the HOF game.

Bumphis wasn't the only back-of-the-roster type who caught the eyes of coaches:

AJ Francis, another undrafted rookie, was very active. He collected a sack. He batted a pass at the line of scrimmage. The Maryland kid showed up.

Will Davis, who frankly had struggled during practices, came through with a huge interception in the end zone during a goal line situation. (By the way, the Dolphins scored one of the TDs in goal line on  a pass and another run TD was questionable whether the runner got in although it was awarded. What's the point? I don't know).

The Dolphins are putting a huge emphasis on turnovers this season. Joe Philbin wants to be plus-16 this year as a starting point. The club was minus-10 last year. That means more turnovers for the defense. It's a great way to get in good graces.

And on offense a turnover is a good way to make a place in the doghouse.

Today, safety Kelcie McCray, Davis, defensive end Olivier Vernon, and Francis are in good graces. Mcray returned his interception of a Matt Moore pass 50 yards for a TD. Vernon had a sack and caused a fumble that Randy Starks recovered. Francis batted a pass that offered another interception opportunity. And, of course, Davis not only saved a touchdown but got the ball back with his interception.

By the way, this turnover emphasis is real. Consider what defensive coordinator Kevin Coyle said:

“We constantly look for better ways of teaching, from little things like we’ve got footballs hanging from the walls in every defensive meeting room that they have to go in, when they walk in and out of the meeting rooms, they’re stripping and punching, just reminders," he said.

" We’ve shown them tape from around the league of teams that cause the most fumbles, how they were caused, what situations we may have had an opportunity to strip the ball and we didn’t.  We’ve talked about sacks, sack fumbles, we got a lot of sacks, but we didn’t get a lot of sack fumbles.  We like to believe there were opportunities at times last year to get a fumble as well as a sack, so we’ve showed them players throughout the league who have done that consistently and it’s an awareness factor. 

"So we’ve looked at the teams that create the most fumbles last year, it was New England, Chicago, and Cincinnati, we’ve studied every one of those fumbles, we’ve showed them those things on tape, and hopefully it will start to translate onto our play."

Conversely, losing turnovers is a no-no. So who's in the doghouse today?

Mike Gillislee was good against second- and third-team competition running the ball. He rushed for 21 yards on six carries. But he had a fumble that he lost. And he dropped a pass that would have gone for a first down.

Quarterbacks Moore and Pat Devlin also made key mistakes that turned otherwise mediocre nights into a problem. Neither threw a TD pass. Neither looked exceedingly comfortable. Both threw interceptions that cost his team TDs. Devlin's interception obviously was in the end zone. And Moore's interception was returned for a TD. Moore also had a fumble so two turnovers for him. Yuck.

Ryan Tannehill, meanwhile, played a lot better than he's been practicing. He threw three touchdowns without and interception and that was without his two top wide receivers available. He completed 8 of 11 passes for 72 yards. His throw to Dustin Keller for a TD was a thing of beauty in that it was placed where only the TE could catch it for the score.

You know that mantra Philbin has about everyone is fighting for a job and there are no starters? It's doesn't apply at QB.

 

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Wr's, whose names I've never heard of, would have their career games against Sean Smith. After this, we would never hear these wr's names again.

I will never miss Sean Smith.

Those of you making the ridiculous argument that A&M got better after T-Hill left. Seem to forget A&M was Horrible before Sherman arrived. The New Coach is winning with Players Sherman Brought In and Developed.

The Larry Coker Effect. Larry Coker is the Winningest Coach in UM History. But Once All the Kids B.Davis Recruited Graduated the U started falling off.

It is like Someone comes and starts Coaching UM now after All Golden brought the program back from Obscurity. And you give the credit to the new guy.

Some of you just talk, just to hear your own voice.

Nobody turns around a program in 1 year in College Football. The Difference between Freshmen and Seniors Is Huge.

No Free Agency in College Football.

Dashi | July 30, 2013 at 07:38 PM

Agree with you here believe some or overstating supposed weaknesses were I happen to see team strengths. The problem is some here are out of town Fins fans and Canes (in Miller ERA) had very little coverage outside S.Fla. Until last Seasons Sat. Night game Vs. N.D. we hadn't seen the Canes in prime time for a few Yrs. If only Dorsett doesn't drop sure TD's early we may have shown better! Still wait this Yr. with Canes fighting ACC Crown as well!

Fin4life,

Good points above and I get your logic but I gotta tell ya, there's nothing about the running game that I'm all that excited about. Now I think we're transitioning to being a passing team but there are also times where you have to be able to run and I just don't see it with this team. Miller is hit and miss for me and Thomas looks good but the fumbles or gets hurt. Who are putting our stock in? Gray? Giliselle? Thigpen? Lane?

I fully expect there will be times this year that the rushing line will be really ugly and the pressure will be on Tannehill and company to get it done.

Posted by: Craig M | July 30, 2013 at 07:43 PM

Yeah right, so convenient to think Im using aliases to say what I have to say about you. Then you can dismiss the "REAL FACT" Im not the only one thinking youre the piece of sh-t you really are.

Forgive me if I disturb you from your slumber. But, this means I also have to be under alias on Twitter, and pulled my greatest troll work of all, by marrying and putting you out.

Again, wakeup dude, youre a perennial dick and rub people wrong both personally and thru internet media.

CHANGE..........................

Craig M,

When as a kid, grocery shopping with your mother, I'll bet my last bottom dollar several times she intentionally tried to lose you in the store.

But, you were far too stupid to stay lost....

Jack!,
Mich scored 5 Tds that game with Henne leading all of the drives. He put Mich ahead for the 5th time with 2 mins left.
Then the ST and D gave up another TD to make it 37-35 ASU.
Henne brought them back again, for the 6th time, and the final play of the game was a Mich field goal attempt for the win that was blocked.

App State at the time was back to back Div II champion and it was the 1st game of the season but you're right they lost and all of the Mich players paid for it in the draft except for Jake Long. The HC was fired after the season ended.

All I can say is if Henne had been playing defense as wll as QB Mich would have won.

That's all water under the bridge.
You left off that the final game that season was the Orange Bowl against Tebow's Gators.
Mich won and Henne was MVP.
He was also MVP of the Sr. Bowl a month later.

You can look up the past on Google.

I will keep you up to date on the present: every 2013 pass attempt/completion/TD/300 yd game/win.

Craig M,

You even saw Armando tell you that Im not the troll names attacking you. I guess your conspiracy theory now is that I am also Armando.

You are beyond mindfucked......

Also, many of you that were here whn Armando said Im not the troll names, choose to live in mindfuckedville too.

The silence on the status of Wallace and Hartline is deafening.

They wouldn't have been held out of the opportunity to practice under scrimmage conditions if something wasn't seriously wrong. And we would have heard something if they were OK.

Only logical conclusion is serious injuries to both of them, with their availability this season highly doubtful.

Funny YG.....you just described yourself to a T.....and there are MANY on here who would agree. Start with you Club of Queens or whatever crap you the making up now. But there are many more who feel the same way. The difference between you and I is that while I can disagree with others on here, it doesn't become a name calling contest and I don't hold a grudge until the end of time.

There would be MANY that wouldn't miss you for second were you to be gone from this blog. I'm sure you're used to those conversations in your life.

Since you guys enjoy talking about Henne as much as I do put this in your pip and smoke it:

In 2012 Henne started 6 games and put up 2100 yards 1 Tds. In 2011 he started 3 games and put up 900 yards and 4 Tds.

So in Henne's last 9 starts he's put up 3000 yards and 15 TDs. And 7 of those starts were against teams that made the postseason that year.

So with all that in mind look what he has this season:
-New GM - spent last 5 years as pers director for Atl
-New HC - spent last 4 years as D-coord for Seattle
-Starting WRs: Blackman + Shorts + Shipley
-Starting TE: Mercedes Lewis
-Starting RB: MJD
-Thier top draft pick in 2013: Luke Joeckel LT

Correction: 2012 was 6 starts 2100 yards 11 Tds


It is like Someone comes and starts Coaching UM now after All Golden brought the program back from Obscurity. And you give the credit to the new guy.

Some of you just talk, just to hear your own voice.

Nobody turns around a program in 1 year in College Football. The Difference between Freshmen and Seniors Is Huge.

No Free Agency in College Football.

Posted by: Dashi | July 30, 2013 at 07:44 PM

Great point and argument I had Yrs. ago regarding Dennis Erickson and his 2 National Titles with JJ's team when the Seahawks made the BAD decision to plug him as their Coach in the Mid-90's.

Great point on state of A&M before Sherm were there last relevant claim to NCAA fame I can remember was in the Quinten Coryatt ERA. I went and looked it up before Sherm they went to the Holiday Bowl and get this the "Gallery Furniture.com Bowl" I C H I T you not given I NEVER heard of such a stupid sounding Bowl game!

During his time they managed a BCS Bowl game going to the Cotton Bowl with Tannehill at QB, so give credit were it's due and they repeated that same feat last Yr. with Sherm's squad beating Oklahoma in agame everybody remembers because of Doug Flutie the 2nd wh will FLAME out from what we've seen in his character. Fluite made it to being a serviceable NFL QB after learning the ropes in Canada because1st go around in N.E. and Chicago were horrible!

It is extraordinarily likely that Henne will pass for 5000 yards and 30 Tds this season.
He is 28.
He is also and UFA after this season.

YG,

I know you'd like to keep this argument going all night because you've got nothing else going on in your life but I've got better things to do. When you use the same old style lines about me that other users have used its the biggest giveaway. You know NOTHING about me buy you pretend you do. Like you've got the Rubix cube all figured out but in reality you haven't even taken it out of the box yet. You're just a dumb hick who pretends he's got life all figured out but in reality you've got nothing figured out.

I don't need Armando to tell me you don't use other names, I KNOW you do and so do most of the regulars here. You think you're fooling people but you're not fooling anyone, that's the sad reality.

Fin4Life,

The U will also be back this season.

ACC Title game is easily obtainable. I believe UM will the end the Season as a Top 5 Team. BCS game.

Also, agreed. UM hasn't been in the national spotlight in a while with the restrictions and Coker and Shannon destroying the roster.

You and Dash-I know that L.Miller is the Truth. Miller can run Inside, He can run outside, and He can score from anywhere. C.Portis Jr. In my Book.

If there are 2 people here that I will listen to on assessment of players are F4L and Odin. You guys give honest Assessment of what you see. Objective Opinions.

1. Toilet Scrubber Dashi
2. GM Odistank
3. Fin4Losers
4. Darkoak wants to be split
5. Mark In Toronto
6. CRAIGM
7. KRISSY Girl
8. PHONY78
9. Woodfloor Trailer
10. More To Be Named


Craig M,

Many of the people on this list aren't nearly as bad as you and Mark. You would be top 2.

Many on this list are here because they make the terrible mistake of taking up for you two.

Fin4life and I got along decently until he began to take up for a troll that attacked me first in the brginning. I never stick my nose into other posters disputes, it isn't any of my business.

As for Dashi and Odin, we have our moments, yet can still as time passes and have great football talk. We don't harbor ill will to a terminal degree.

Hey Fraud,

I'll take that bet. What would you like the bet to be? Loser never shows his face on the blog again?

I'd make that bet but I know you're another one of those multiple sign in guys. Sad but true...


I fully expect there will be times this year that the rushing line will be really ugly and the pressure will be on Tannehill and company to get it done.

Posted by: Craig M | July 30, 2013 at 07:49 PM

Maybe I'm still HIGH off the Kool-Aid I sipped last night at the scrimmage but feel you will be pleasently surprised. The key will b the OL and there cohesivness more than the RB's in the zone blocking scheme to be honest. Remember in this scheme fleet footedness and athleticism trump size plus playing in concert more than any other run blocking scheme and the reason were tinkering now and not in 2 weeks.

Craig M always has original inspiring thoughts. I'd like to meet him someday but it is just not that often I make it to the city zoo.

Can't imagine why they brought Julius Pruitt here after they cut him. Are STs looking that bad? He's a mediocre receiver.

Yes!!

Yes!!

Yes!!

I'm Still #1¡¡

That is 25 list in a row. That has to be some sort of record right?

Posted by: Craig M | July 30, 2013 at 08:06 PM

Boy do you sound stupid. Then are trying to drag the "others" down with you.

Probably why your wife got rid of you. You probably perrenially accused her f cheating when she really wasn't.

Its called, "paranoid schizophrenia" bonehead.

Dashi,

I actually like you. Its just that you can be a pain in the ass jerk at time. I'll admit, I suffer from the same condition at times too.

YG,

You're just saying that because of whatever day of the week it is. The reality is that neither Dashi, Odin, Kris, Mark, Phins78 or myself can stand you. You're pathetic! There may be more but we can let them speak for themselves....

I'm going to go because like the drivel you try to pass of as football analysis you're boring me.

Ciao

Craig M,
First of all let's face it you are posting under every name on this blog except for mine (which you will now proably start doing.

Second of all the institutionalized cannot pay thier debts, gambling or otherwise.

Third of all your wife didn't leave you because you never had a wife or a girlfriend or a job or a college education. You're not a veteran or a homeowner. You own neither life insurance nor mutual funds nor a car.

In fact you sound a lot like Odin Lloyd.

Go phuc yourself.

2012 Preseason Stats

T-Hill

78 att
41 Comp
414 yds
52.6%
1 TD
1 INT
4 Sacks
66.9 Rating

M&M

51 Att
20 Comp
234 yds
39.2%
0 TD
2 INTs (Probably 2 Fumbles Also)
4 Sacks
37.5 Rating

Devlin

49 Att
29 Comp
246 yds
59.2%
1 TD
1 INT
O Sacks
70.6 Rating

From now on Craig M is not allowed to read my posts.

Kris is a huge mystery. We can get along fin for 3-6mth stretches. Then out of the blue he'll revert back to the same Kris bringing up the same stuff we feuded about nearly a year later.

Just like the recidivism in convicted convicts. Mirroring it in unexpectedness too.


Fin4life and I got along decently until he began to take up for a troll that attacked me first in the brginning.

As for Dashi and Odin, we have our moments, yet can still as time passes and have great football talk. We don't harbor ill will to a terminal degree.

Posted by: LOVE FAKING 17-0-IN-YUR-ASS! | | July 30, 2013 at 08:08 PM

There wasa time when Dying Breed and I would have some good Football related conversations and debates on who the best Fins in History were ect... Remember our discussion on the best #22? I was gone for a while and now it seems Football is the least of your topics, if your interested in the reason long time posters are fed up with your act.

Posted by: Craig M | July 30, 2013 at 08:15 PM


Hate to be the one doing the late breaking to you. But on the internet none of us are really friends.

Unless there are those like you who have burned all of their "REAL FRIENDSHIP BRIDGES" in the "REAL WORLD".

It's then that "CYBER FRIENDSHP" becomes your lifeline.

It's plain to see why some here DESPERATELY need CYBERFRIENDSHIP. Especially you. The only real friend you had left changed the house locks on you. That's VERY TELLING.....

Fraud,

You're a funny guy. Another guy who thinks he has me all figured out but in reality knows nothing about me. Hmmm....where have e sen that before?

'I post under different names including yours'? Don't flatter yourself, pal. Any post I made under your name would post your credibility immensely. Never going to happen, pal. I've never once posted under another name on here. I leave that to cowards like you and YG.

So what's the matter coward?.....you don't want to step up and take your Henne bet?

Irony at its best @ 743...


From now on Craig M is not allowed to read my posts.

Posted by: ExposingTheFraud | July 30, 2013 at 08:21 PM


Be careful, Craig M will now begin accusing you of being me. Seriously....

Later fellas...it's been a blast......

I'll let you gouge out each others eyes.

WHO CARES ABOUT SOMEONES STUPID EX WIFE.

CHIC IS PROBABLY PSYCHO ANYWAY.

JUST MOVE ON TO BETTER DAYS

In fact you sound a lot like Odin Lloyd.

Go phuc yourself.

Posted by: ExposingTheFraud | July 30, 2013 at 08:19 PM

WOW!! Very uncalled for and waaay over the top dude! Nobody came at you in a way that merited your reply!

Dashi:"Those of you making the ridiculous argument that A&M got better after T-Hill left. Seem to forget A&M was Horrible before Sherman arrived. ...Nobody turns around a program in 1 year in College Football. The Difference between Freshmen and Seniors Is Huge."

Except that they won more with a freshman QB last year than they ever dreamed of with Tannehill.

Posted by: fin4life | July 30, 2013 at 08:26 PM

Exactly why I say, and especially if you've been gone for a while, don't take sides in other posters personal disputes. You don't know what ignited it, and other will draw you into their distorted views of what happened.

I never get in the middle of any posters disputes whether I like them or not. I attack when attacked. I stick to that at least 95% of the time.

Fin4life, many of the posters here that would have you believe others are trolls. They themselves are trolls too. They themselves are using aliases to attack other posters then lying about.

I've just becoming their scape goat. Its popular for them to blame their sins on me. That's the truth brother.

When you fight you are just contributing hits to TMH and this Blog. Do you really want that? Would you be desolate if this Blog closed?

YG,

You know I can Care less about our back and forth. I don't take it serious. I was raised with the Saying If you can dish it, You better know how to take it. Dash-I have pretty thick skin. Plus, I can really dish it.

I know it isn't you always Trolling Dashi. I have my other "Fans"(Remember I dislike Spo). But you will take the grunt of it. Since I won't even Acknowledge the 2 other Low Lives that Constantly Troll Dashi. And you actually stand up for what you say sometimes.

Haven't you notice there is ALWAYS that one guy trolling Dashi that keeps saying I'm Not YG. I KNOW FOOL YOU ARE JUST NON IMPORTANT TO DASHI.

Some people say why do I still talk to YG. Because at the End of the Day our Beef isn't Real.

We use to get along real well. Heck, I have even offered you a Truce a Couple Times. But you renigged on it.

I want Johnny Manziel.

Fraud,

You're a funny guy. Another guy who thinks he has me all figured out but in reality knows nothing about me. Hmmm....where have e sen that before?


Fin4life,

See what I mean? He's already ready to begin accusing this guy of being me. CraigM will be friendly with these people, as long as they continue to agree with him, then as soon as its no longer that way.


Well of course, they have to be me.

You truly don't know what I put with here with the likes of Craigm and Mark In Toronto. Something's truly wrong with these two. Others, we more or less have "sparring disputes" and as time passes disappears.

Dashi and Odin can best tell you this.

YG

Dashe has your ip and your physical address. So I'm sure he knows for sure that you use 10 different names a day here.

Dashi, what happened to capitalizing the first letter of every word? No more? Are u posting under other names too?


The silence on the status of Wallace and Hartline is deafening.

Only logical conclusion is serious injuries to both of them, with their availability this season highly doubtful.

Posted by: Calvin | July 30, 2013 at 07:58 PM

I was there both were on the field moving around perfectly during drills. Hartline came up walking a little gingerly and the trainers were looking at him but during the scrimmage was all smiles barking things at the players on the field running around, he was fine! Wallace was held out to get a look at the younger guys while the Coaches decide who they want to get a better look at in the Pre-Season. If you made ZERO impression last night chances are you'll get little minutes in the coming audition.

Reneged

Tannehill pales in comparison to Johnny Manziel.

I don't dislike anyone, personally...though I choose to not speak to some...mainly because of allegations...
Jack! Does not like being accused...of shyt he doesn't do!!!

Dashi, what happened to capitalizing the first letter of every word? No more? Are u posting under other names too?

Posted by: Harold | July 30, 2013 at 08:39 PM


Dashe slipped up again!

Bwaahaaahaa Haaahaaa!!!!!!!

"Well not desolate, Oscar, but more poor", The Blog.

HOHOHO!

Posted by: Dashi | July 30, 2013 at 08:35 PM

I fully agree with 95% of this. I only renig when I come in and read of you telling someone Im using troll names.

41 years without a SB win. And counting.


Except that they won more with a freshman QB last year than they ever dreamed of with Tannehill.

Posted by: Calvin | July 30, 2013 at 08:32 PM

Who happened to be a Sherman recruit and playing behind a couple of high rated bookend Tackles (Jake Matthews will be a #1 in 2014 draft)


Tannehill pales in comparison to Johnny Manziel.

Posted by: #49 | July 30, 2013 at 08:40 PM


Also, at present rate, Johnny Manziel will come "FAR CHEAPR" too. If he continues at the rate he's going, by draft day he'll be a 5TH RD pick. Regardless of how well he looks on the football field. Every GM will consider him a HUGE RISK and HUGE DISTRACTION.

At this rate, shortly before draft 2014, we may hear of Manziel holding up a Seven Eleven for a couple bottles of MD 20/20.

The MD is for mad dog, not the Miami Dolphins.

If the draft were held today, Manziel's stock drops to at least 2nd rd by all of the nfl GM's.

Presently, Manziel looks clearly in "self-destruct" mode.

My older Son says that the speakers on his Audi are worth alone the price of the Car. Could that be true?

Dash I only uses 1 name at a Time here. And I make it pretty Obvious when I type.

Also, Dashi loves bringing up real stats to make his points.

Like I said, You Act Normal and I will type normal.

Caps on the first word? Then you must've forgot my schtick before that was ending every sentence with "!!"

And Once You Catch Yourself Typing Like This On A Company Memo. You realize you need to go back to normal. You don't want your underlings Complaining. The reason I also stopped the "!!" Schtick.

And Fact,

You can have both my IP and Physical Address. Mando probably has all my Info also. I've been a Member of the Herald since before you had to pay. Close to a Decade now.

And I live in Florida Baby. Step in my Front Yard and I have the right to stand my ground. Heck, walk on the sidewalk across the street and I have the right to stand my ground.

I don't know if you are some Psycho from Hialeah.

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