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Coaches digest the scrimmage buffet

The Dolphins coaching staff will meet today and go through Monday's night's scrimmage to see which players took steps forward and which stumbled as they prepare for three more days of practice starting Wednesday before they head to Canton, Ohio this weekend for the Hall of Fame game.

One of the issues the staff must manage is the wide receiver situation.

Brian Hartline and Mike Wallace were held out of the scrimmage. Hartline seemed to tweak a lower leg muscle, possibly a calf, in the warmups and drills prior to the scrimmage. Wallace was held out for an undetermined issue, although signs point to him also nursing some sort of minor injury. (Remember, the Dolphins do not comment on injuries and coach Joe Philbin didn't even address the media after the scrimmage. He addressed the crowd after many of them had already walked out. And he gave the media relations department two quotes about the scrimmage, neither of which addressed Wallace's absence. This, by the way, is not typical of NFL teams. Head coachess speak after practices and scrimmages and preseason games and regular season games and playoff games and Super Bowls. Win or lose).

At any rate, Philbin is expected to explain the Wallace absence Wednesday in some fashion because he is also not available to the media today -- a day off for the team.

It's really a shame about Wallace. No, I'm not too worried about the player's injury if that is what kept him out. Again, if he's injured it's minor. I'm sad for the franchise that is trying to increase a lagging season-ticket base and a growing disconnect from local fans. Last night the club had 22,876 interested fans in the stands -- more than the Patriots had at Gillette Stadium for a practice on the same night. All of those fans are potential season-ticket customers. I'm certain they all expected to see Ryan Tannehill (3 TD passes), Dion Jordan (one sack and one pressure), Cameron Wake and Mike Wallace.

And Wallace was only there to roam the sideline in his uniform but out of action. Shame.

That's not anyone's fault. It's just tough luck for the organization.

As to the rest of the wide receiver corps: Even as the team engages in talks about adding a body -- Laurent Robinson and Austin Collie are on the radar among others -- there will no doubt be a longer look at undrafted free agent acquisition Chad Bumphis.

Bumphis had two catches for 41 yards on Monday night. One of those was a 28-yard catch and run down the right sideline that showed both burst and field awareness. Bumphis has been mired on third and fourth teams so far in camp. If the scrimmage performance doesn't earn him more reps and perhaps some with the second team, it certainly puts him on the radar pior to the HOF game.

Bumphis wasn't the only back-of-the-roster type who caught the eyes of coaches:

AJ Francis, another undrafted rookie, was very active. He collected a sack. He batted a pass at the line of scrimmage. The Maryland kid showed up.

Will Davis, who frankly had struggled during practices, came through with a huge interception in the end zone during a goal line situation. (By the way, the Dolphins scored one of the TDs in goal line on  a pass and another run TD was questionable whether the runner got in although it was awarded. What's the point? I don't know).

The Dolphins are putting a huge emphasis on turnovers this season. Joe Philbin wants to be plus-16 this year as a starting point. The club was minus-10 last year. That means more turnovers for the defense. It's a great way to get in good graces.

And on offense a turnover is a good way to make a place in the doghouse.

Today, safety Kelcie McCray, Davis, defensive end Olivier Vernon, and Francis are in good graces. Mcray returned his interception of a Matt Moore pass 50 yards for a TD. Vernon had a sack and caused a fumble that Randy Starks recovered. Francis batted a pass that offered another interception opportunity. And, of course, Davis not only saved a touchdown but got the ball back with his interception.

By the way, this turnover emphasis is real. Consider what defensive coordinator Kevin Coyle said:

“We constantly look for better ways of teaching, from little things like we’ve got footballs hanging from the walls in every defensive meeting room that they have to go in, when they walk in and out of the meeting rooms, they’re stripping and punching, just reminders," he said.

" We’ve shown them tape from around the league of teams that cause the most fumbles, how they were caused, what situations we may have had an opportunity to strip the ball and we didn’t.  We’ve talked about sacks, sack fumbles, we got a lot of sacks, but we didn’t get a lot of sack fumbles.  We like to believe there were opportunities at times last year to get a fumble as well as a sack, so we’ve showed them players throughout the league who have done that consistently and it’s an awareness factor. 

"So we’ve looked at the teams that create the most fumbles last year, it was New England, Chicago, and Cincinnati, we’ve studied every one of those fumbles, we’ve showed them those things on tape, and hopefully it will start to translate onto our play."

Conversely, losing turnovers is a no-no. So who's in the doghouse today?

Mike Gillislee was good against second- and third-team competition running the ball. He rushed for 21 yards on six carries. But he had a fumble that he lost. And he dropped a pass that would have gone for a first down.

Quarterbacks Moore and Pat Devlin also made key mistakes that turned otherwise mediocre nights into a problem. Neither threw a TD pass. Neither looked exceedingly comfortable. Both threw interceptions that cost his team TDs. Devlin's interception obviously was in the end zone. And Moore's interception was returned for a TD. Moore also had a fumble so two turnovers for him. Yuck.

Ryan Tannehill, meanwhile, played a lot better than he's been practicing. He threw three touchdowns without and interception and that was without his two top wide receivers available. He completed 8 of 11 passes for 72 yards. His throw to Dustin Keller for a TD was a thing of beauty in that it was placed where only the TE could catch it for the score.

You know that mantra Philbin has about everyone is fighting for a job and there are no starters? It's doesn't apply at QB.

 

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If the draft were held today, Teddy Bridgewater has clearly surpassed Manziel as 1st qb chosen.

Manziel as PR'd himself clearly out of the 1st rd if the draft were held today. At the very least he wouldn't be 1st qb taken.

Guys what do you all say we drop the BS and talk some Football?? I was at the scrimmage and can tell you guys that our DL will be something fearsome this Yr. We had on sme plays a formationwhich I bet will be on the field as much as whoever the starters are Philbin names.

From left to right Misi, Wake, Starks, Odrick, Vernon, Jordan and we also had Jordan next to Wake with Wheeler o the field. The pass rush will be awesome and the constant subbing will keep our guys fresh into the 4th without mentioning how much help it provides our DB's. It was what impressed me the most.

One more thing Dustin keller may catch 80 to 90 passes in this O from the amount of times Tannehill targeted him they seem to have hit there comfort zone for sure.

If R.Wilson was a 3rd Round pick. Where do you think Manziel will go?

Someone please tell Cellar dude you have to be REAL to be a Dolphin fan.

I've been on this planet 36 years, life long fan.

AND IM DIE HARD DOLPHINS, CANES and HEAT.

Even if I'm 0 and 7, I still want to beat the Pats, lol.

You must never compare yourself to anybody else. Going lower than your Self will only bring you Misery. And the most you can do with People who are obviously above your Self, is admire them.

FOOTBALL IS BACK BABY!!! Here is a cold one on you "MAD DOG"

F4L,

From the scrimmage.

What did you see formation wise on Offense?

3-4 Wide?

Or

2 TE?

And did the defense play some 3-4?

How can you judge our DL going up against a rag tag OL with very little experience together?

Everything here, suddenly, changed back to Football. hehehehe


The pass rush will be awesome and the constant subbing will keep our guys fresh into the 4th

Posted by: fin4life | July 30, 2013 at 08:57 PM


One of the primary reason for te evolving of the hurry up to become a more staple part of a team's "normal offense". To eliminate substitutions and packages on defense.

That's why the next evolution for defenses is to become far more athletic and faster. Seems Philbin addressed this this offseason with the additions of Grimes, Wheeler, and Ellerbe.

In today's nfl, its getting increasingly tougher to rotate players and send in different packages. Offenses are now trying to line and snap before players are fully on or off the field. Which could also draw "too many on the field" penalties.

Dashi, what happened to capitalizing the first letter of every word? No more? Are u posting under other names too?

Posted by: Harold | July 30, 2013 at 08:39 PM


Dashe slipped up again!

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Dashe sure was Defensive about it. Doth protest too much daSheWeed

You guys are pathetic with your beefs on a Miami Dolphins blog. Grown men smh I hope none if you guys have kids

The hury up offense is also designed to keep you from getting the right personnel on the field to "create mismatches".

That's why today's defenses will have to have a premium on "faster and more athletic". Then you can better deal with "hurry up offenses".

I think the worse thing you can look at during a scrimmage and preseason are which plays and formation are being run...this gives you little indication for the season...

The important stuff???

1 on 1's...explosiveness and athleticism...cohesiveness...consistancy...

No playoff win in 12 years. And counting.

It would have never occurred to me to name myself after fermented seaweed, but hey, whatever rocks your boat.


Also, at present rate, Johnny Manziel will come "FAR CHEAPR" too. If he continues at the rate he's going, by draft day he'll be a 5TH RD pick. .

Posted by: LOVE FAKING 17-0-IN-YUR-ASS! | | July 30, 2013 at 08:49 PM

He may Party himself out of the draft all together somebody should have Maurice Clerett have a talk with this moron.

I feel that is very true on 17"s part. The reason for the quick O is not to let the D set up.

AJ McCarron tried waking Manziel up for the morning practice at Manning passing academy and couldn't get him up Johnny Coke was in a semi-dope induced COMA!

Ryan Tannehill would be a backup on his college team this year.

What is smh?


My older Son says that the speakers on his Audi are worth alone the price of the Car. Could that be true?

Posted by: oscar canosa | July 30, 2013 at 08:54 PM

I DON'T KNOW BUT TELL HIM TO GET A GOOD ALARM SYSTEM, LOL!

Some folks say the People want to see high flying football and huge scores...I think we just want competitive football with a group of dedicated men...trying to improve their self...and their team...pursuing perfection while obtaining excellence...

Sports is life...no???

The hurry up becoming a staple offensive weapon was genius and born over more and more defenses converting to 3-4 defenses. 3-4 defense accentuate bigger stonger, but slower less athletic.

4-3 came of neccessity to stop the run. When teams were running 4-3, which is better equipted to stop the pass. Offenses began loading up to run against them.

Then, to better deal with running teams, the 3-4 was born. That's why the Hurry up has evolved. To catch these bigger faster guys on the field create mismatches in coverage.

Kevin Coyle has basically put us back into the 4-3 defensive era. Although now we have the personnel to run a bit of a hybrid of both while keeping the same personnel on the field.

That's what I like most about the defensive personnel we now have.

Bose perhaps, Oscar...very expensive...but more so than an Audi???
Well...I'd have to dig in the pudding for that...


Ryan Tannehill would be a backup on his college team this year.


Posted by: NJPHIN | July 30, 2013 at 09:16 PM

He'll be a backup to Matt Moore on the Dolphins by seasons end too. He doesnt have the accuracy or the poise of an NFL QB. BTW, I told you guys Mando was THE BEST and he proved it last night with real time updates. Thanks again Mando.

So objective on his part...

So if O's are becoming more dominate than D's...and The Shield gears and may continue to gear...rules towards O advantage...does not the competitiveness diminish???
Maybe a D should be given the opportunity to match an O's subs...in a timely fashion of course...

My question is, where will all this enthusiasm be if we lose to Cleveland?

Basically, 3-4 defenses are better to pass against, not run against.

4-3 defenses are better to run against, not pass against.

The 4-3 defense may be the greatest culprit in the boom of pass happy nfl offenses. Just like 4-3's creating the 3yds and a cloud of dust run era.


My question is, where will all this enthusiasm be if we lose to Cleveland?

Posted by: Brainless | July 30, 2013 at 09:25 PM

You mean when we lose to Cleveland. They beat us all the recent games.


F4L,

From the scrimmage.

What did you see formation wise on Offense?

3-4 Wide?

Or

2 TE?

And did the defense play some 3-4?

Posted by: Dashi | July 30, 2013 at 09:03 PM

Dashi,

Apparently Philbin wanted to work almost exclusively on the redzone O because about 80% of the scrimmage was played from he 20 yardline in to the endzone. We played alot of double T.E. sets (Egnew and Sims split there snaps with Keller in on every play) Egnew missed badly on a block that would have sprung Miller for 6 and did little in the pass game as 2nd option. Keller lived in shallow seam and/or crossing routes and didn't drop a pass!

Sims was not targeted but suspect we see him again splitting time in the fomation with Egnew during the Pre-Season. There was also a new wrinkle in rezone with double T.E. and Clay also in the backfield. On the one long drive there was 4 and 5 WR sets but in honesty outside of McNutt you needed a program to know the players on the field and the ral reason IMO that Wallace didn't play because the Coaches were determining who would get snaps in the Pre-Season and who was providing an extra body in Camp.

What Year is the Audi?

Should be the question.

Just make sure he takes care of the transmission. I know a couple people who have had Audi's and the Transmission goes bad. That is a $7k-$9k repair. On any Audi. I doubt speakers are that expensive.

Weeden > TanneHenne

Or perhaps...if a guy is busting his ARSE to get off the field...don't throw a GD flag because his shoelace was on the wrong side of the white line...
If the 'ol boy is making an effort to get off the field...and isn't possibly distrupting game play...

Let...It...Go...

Or hold count for a second...game on...

Jack!,

Yes, they won't throw all their formations out there on a scrimmage. But all the Base Sets will be ran. The Bread and Butter Plays. The Easiest Plays In The Book. The Money Plays.

Bose are only ordinary speakers. They have years of marketing and name recognition. It's a brand you are paying for. They are nothing special. Bose is the budget rout for clubs needing to disperse small but sound carrying speakers. They do well to cut through chatter and noise. They are not great speakers to the audiophile.


In today's nfl, its getting increasingly tougher to rotate players and send in different packages. Offenses are now trying to line and snap before players are fully on or off the field. Which could also draw "too many on the field" penalties.

Posted by: LOVE FAKING 17-0-IN-YUR-ASS! | | July 30, 2013 at 09:06 PM

It has become a game of miss-matches the group I posted out of our front-7 will more than likely be on the field in this scenario.

Bose have become popular in cars in recent years. It gives the automaker more leeway in charging more for the 'upscale' feature...which of course isn't upscale at all.

Give credit to the Bose marketing team. Not many people can name another brand of speakers.

A man of the year: In 2011, Bess was selected by his teammates as the Miami Dolphins Walter Payton Man-of-the-Year candidate. This honor is not emphasized or appreciated enough by media and fans.

Bess was honored for his Bess Route Foundation, which provided funds and opportunities for underprivileged youth in south Florida. He intends to establish a similar foundation in Cleveland.

“It’s my journey, my story, what I’ve been through,” Bess said. “I feel I’ve been put through my situation to share my story and help others to not make the same mistakes I did when I was young.”


Jack!,

Yes, they won't throw all their formations out there on a scrimmage. But all the Base Sets will be ran. The Bread and Butter Plays. The Easiest Plays In The Book. The Money Plays.

Posted by: Dashi | July 30, 2013 at 09:32 PM

We ran alot of looks last night that I'd never seen from our O under Philbin. If you have some trick plays or gadgets you practice to catch teams off guard then you save them for the Season but in large part you give repitition to the formations you plan on employing. Hey Carpenter was practicing onside kicks, QUICK ALERT EVERYONE! Carpenter's best onside is sort of like a POOCH type kick! The only time we probably save it for the bubble will be with all the disguises we'll run on D.

F4L @9:28,

Thanks for the insight. We asked the question to mando yesterday and got no answer.

I was rooting for Egnew. But will be happy if we hit on Sims.

I believe Clay is our FB. He is smaller than our other TEs. But Big enough for FB. Plus, He played RB in College.

I like Clay more than Lane. Clay is more dynamic. He can play FB, play TE, and even line up in the slot on certain formations.

Agreed, with your opinion earlier. Keller will be T-Hills new security blanket. Keller working the Middle and Hartline the Sideline, Wallace going Deep, and Gibson working the other side in the slot. With L.Miller working the Flats. Each piece feeds off the other.

Of his 321 catches, 130 came on third downs – the second-most in that five-year period to Atlanta Pro Bowler Roddy White. Bess was amazingly consistent under two head coaches, three offensive coordinators and four starting quarterbacks.

After Sunday’s practice, quarterback Brandon Weeden said, “I asked him the other day how many option routes he’s caught in his career and he said a lot. That’s what he brings, that consistency. He is an absolute football player, a pro. I’m glad to have him.”

Posted by: fin4life | July 30, 2013 at 09:28 PM


Could be, Philbin already knows what he gets in Wallace. Since Wallace is here to primarily stretch the defense, amy as well get "other wr's" snaps if predominantly redzone.

Plus, with Binn's injury, Philbin may want to get a longer look at these "other wr's". No question, the 1/2/3 wr positions are filled. It wans necessary to play Wallace in a predominantly redzone "scrimmage games.

Philbin needed to see if any of the "other guys" can step up when the lights are on. For the same reason, it could be that Hartline's supposed calf tweak was bs too. With Binn out, Philbin wants a longer look at who that 4th wr might be. It adds just a little more decision making tape.

Agreed!!!

It was more filler to lead into the second half...which was the preface...
I liked YGs comments about D's switching up their tactics...and liked finfers comments on football talk...which engaged the bloggers...I liked that you had legitimate football inquiry...

So I Jeff Ireland 'married' them all together...into my own rambling story!!!

One must rely on their self for joy...yes???

Posted by: Brainless | July 30, 2013 at 09:35 PM

So brainless...what is your recommendation for top line vehicle audio equiptment???

Top line? For car speakers? Well, if you have a real job, I'd say the Focal Utopia series. If you can't swing that price, Focal, Helix and Kicker all have some fine products in the midrange.


Each piece feeds off the other.

Posted by: Dashi | July 30, 2013 at 09:42 PM

Seems that way.

Infinity and Alpine are plenty good for most people too, but not in the same league as those other brands.

Paging Dr. Tannehill, Dr. Tannehill...your Quacks Hospital patch is coming apart at the seams.
Inaccurate
Tannehill will be inconsistent and a bust. Hope all you want, Dolphins fan losers. 2-5 start...can't wait to read your pissing and moaning. Ireland and Philbin will be fired at some point and the Phins will be drafting a new quarterback to start a new (2008) new (2013) new (2015) beginning. Someday Ross will be dead and the nightmare will be over.

My job is very real...though I am not inquiring for personal reasons...curiosity I suppose...I am one who will never pay high prices for car audio...just not my thing...

Bess went on to say that Weeden is more accurate than any of the Dolphin QB's he played with.


With Binn out, Philbin wants a longer look at who that 4th wr might be. It adds just a little more decision making tape.

Posted by: LOVE FAKING 17-0-IN-YUR-ASS! | | July 30, 2013 at 09:42 PM

Originally everybody in the section I was in was like OMG! Wallace is hurt! But not so he was up-n-down sidelines signing autographs (doing team P.R. work to counter Mando's point about team loss because he didn't play) It all looked scripted and your point was what came to mind right away. It was a bit of a tease cause we all wanted to see Wallace run a few wheel routes but like you pointed out no need in type of O w were practicing and I figure the Coaches were determining who was going to get good minutes in the Pre-Season.

Catch you guys later!

Dashe never trolls! Except for when he does!

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I guess we could use Bess now with all these injuries.

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Dashe standing his ground looks like a bubblegum wrapper on a windy day!


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fin4life says goodbye but never leaves? insecure?

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