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Studying the Vonta Leach situation

No, I'm not totally back yet. I still have a couple more days of vacation left. But I have some information I've shared with my followers on twitter -- you should follow me @ArmandoSalguero -- that I believe should be here as well.

Regarding Vonta Leach:

1. Today is a big day because it marks the first in which Dolphins GM Jeff Ireland is expected back at work after his vacation in, among other places, Australia. That return to work means he's able to actually talk to Leach agent Ralph Vitolo and negotiate a deal for the veteran if he's so inclined. The two have exchanged some text messages in the time both were on holiday during the past few weeks, but with training camp opening in less than a week and both sides at work, the stage is set for something to happen.

2. Is something going to happen at all? Well, the Dolphins want Leach for the right price. And Leach wants the Dolphins for the right price. (Isn't that always the case?) The Dolphins have made no secret of the fact coach Joe Philbin and offensive coordinator Mike Sherman seriously want Leach for an offense that could use some veteran leadership and also needs an upgrade at fullback. Leach wants to play in Miami because he sees the Dolphins as an up-and-coming team that has a chance to challenge for the playoffs this year, assuming everything goes well. Leach, by the way, also has a good sense of the Dolphins system. That should not be a problem.

3. So what do the sides want from each other? Well, the Dolphins don't want to spend a ton on Leach. Nobody does with fullbacks anymore. The position players there are endangered species. But for the Dolphins it means superior lead blocking and experienced pass blocking on early downs. That's important because presumed starting halfback Lamar Miller is inexperienced and could use some veteran help. It's important because any help the Dolphins can give LT Jonathan Martin on early passing downs with Leach blocking in the backfield on pass plays is good. It's important because Leach can be a stabilizing figure in the huddle. He's been there and done that. For Leach, he wants the opportunity of making one last solid contract. I've reported he wants a two- or three-year deal. He doesn't want a one-year deal because he wants some sort of stability. He likes the idea of being a leader. He likes the coaches and has a comfort level with them.

4. So what can get in the way? Well, Leach has a standing offer to return to the Ravens if he wishes. My sense is it's a low-budget offer and that's the reason he hasn't taken it. He wants to do better. But, the Ravens loom nonetheless because they are comfortable for Leach, familiar to Leach, they're defending Super Bowl champions, and they're proven. I remind everyone the Ravens have this way of swooping in at the last minute and re-signing players they value. Yes, they've lost talent this offseason due to cap constraints, but they have a way of pulling surprise moves  -- witness the Elvis Dumervil signing.

5. What does it all mean? The Dolphins have been trying to get better across the board at every position this offseason. They are clearly not thrilled with the work of Jovorskie Lane last year to the extent they can afford to offer him no training camp competition. If they sign Leach, Lane is in trouble. Leach would be the presumed starter and Lane's only chance of making the team is if Leach is a bust during camp or gets injured. Simply, Lane was inconsistent as a rookie. His weight, his knowledge of his assignments, his execution ... all inconsistent. It wasn't terrible. But the Dolphins simply want a chance to upgrade.

So we'll see what happens on this front ... See you later in the week. 


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Thank God Armando's back.

Now if he'll just reel in the Tard Faction.

Thank God Armando's back.

Now if he'll just reel in the Tard Faction.


Can I be back too.......?

The Dolphins are a garbage franchise. Who cares about them anymore?


1-15 again??

Armando, welcome back. You are the best and we really missed you.

My son needs to get out of the house more then once a month. He has no friends.

That cheap SOB Ross wont pay Leach fairly?

You're out of your shift, odin. Everybody has their hours here(except me, I come in wheneverTH I want). Go back.

Well, seems like it's bye-bye to Randy Starks.

Exactly, howTH do you want Us to feel? With Shula here, nobody questioned the selection of personnel, the strategy, the sidelines work, the overall decisions. Simply, this Organization has not earned our trust, yet. I hope they do.

Armando's still calling it a "vacation," lol?

Simply, this Organization has not earned our trust, yet. I hope they do.

Posted by: oscar canosa | July 15, 2013 at 05:29 PM

Yeah, exactly. We have **The Right** to be skeptical. Look at the Track Record since Shula's.......well.......since Shula.

Now, Philbin has done some things that caused me to sit up and pay attention. He did some things I didn't understand at first. Most of those turned out to be pluses.

So no, he hasn't earned my trust yet. But he has earned some confidence. I like the direction and leadership he's brought to the Franchise.

We shall see!

Armando's back? Big deal; what I am thrilled about is that Jeff Ireland is back. I can't tell you how much I worried when he went all the way to Australia, personnel geniuses don't grow on trees.

Clambake is a 1967 musical film starring Elvis Presley, and co-starring Shelley Fabares and Bill Bixby—the last of his four films for United Artists. The movie reached no. 15 on the national weekly box office charts.

If you haven't watched Leach play, you should!

It would be hard to describe him in a word. Give me two: Cruise Missile!

Armando was on vacation

Leah totally pancakes Patrick Willis!


I can't help it, give Leach whatever he wants. I want this guy on MY TEAM!

Clambake is a 1967 musical film starring Elvis Presley, and co-starring Shelley Fabares and Bill Bixby—the last of his four films for United Artists. The movie reached no. 15 on the national weekly box office charts.
Posted by: Proletariat Exploding Cow | July 15, 2013 at 05:50 PM

Are you crazy, is that your problem?

Shula went 10-4 in his first year here. We expect no less from Philbin. No ifs, ands, or buts.

Good job Armando vacation + suspension = more time off

Leach is so great his own team is low balling him.

Why do the fins always think other teams trash won't stink here? Dansby? Wilford? Columbo? et cetera

So Mando And YG Will Be Back From their 90 Day Rainbow Cruise. Yippee.

Well One Still Checks In. He Smuggled A Smartphone On The Cruise.


To the trolls, I say, the Fins will absolutely suck this season.

To the realistic fans, I say, 7-10 wins this year.

To the kool-aide drinkers with the aqua and orange rose colored glasses, I say, the fins win 12 or more games this season.

There you have it. Who said, can we all just get along!

17-0 was an elaborate hoax, ask the trolls, they believe that they can prove it!

Ronnie & Rickey were in the backfield at the same time, so there's no reason that Leach & Miller can't do the same! Duh! There are situations (and teams) where having the ability to run the ball (or shove it down their throats) is almost a neccessity (or at least highly desirable). Also, if you're up 10+ points late in the 4th quarter, you're going to run the clock out; you know it, the other team knows it, even the drunken fan in the stands knows it. So, being able to run the ball whenever you want to, against any team that you want to, opens up the passing game because your opponent has to respect it! Catch them in a dime package and scamper down the field! And, Leach is one of the best FB's in the NFL. Now, people say it's a dying position, and it may be, but I've seen things come and go in the NFL; who's to say that Fullback's make a comeback? The teams that make it in the playoffs have a balanced attack; passing & running the ball. Otherwise, you're a one-dimensional offense. Balance wins games!

I spoke with Pittsburgh Steeler lb Larry Foote about 1 month and a half ago. Told him Im a Dolphins fan and what he thought about us signing Mike Wallace.

His response was, "Y'all got a helluva player". True story, no bs.

Duh............... Tracy474, almost anytime it's going to be a running play, there are always 2 rb's in the backfield. Who the hell is going to be the lead blocker into the hold, the qb?

Usually if there's only 1 rb its a pass play. However, when defenses see this, they usually try and counter with a blitz to force that rb to become a pass blocker in blitz pickup.


Also, soley running the ball isn't the only way to run out the clock with a safe lead nearing game end. Basically, you only need plays that keep the clock moving.

Typically, you don't want to accomplish this with passing, because incomplete passes stop the clock. Still, you can also keep the clock moving with safe short passes, and the recievers staying inbounds after the catch and runs.

Running's typically seen as the safest ay to do this because of the risk of strp sack and int's. However, there's still risk of fumble and strip fumbles running the ball too.

If Leach sign elsewhere than Lousaka Polite has gotten permission to take a leave of absence from the car wash without pay. What Mando would call a 'vacation'.

Football is pretty darn basic. It simply coms down to executing what you do on your side of the ball. Better than your opponent excutes what he does on his side of the ball.

The team doing this best usually has 99% chance at victory!

So Ireland spent $200mil upgrading the offense when all we really needed was a better FB? And that was one of the positions he ignored?

The team more consistently executing their game plan, is the team most likely to win. Then it only comes down to eliminating turnovers.

Even bad teams can beat good teams, when good teams. start giving the ball away!

The Vikings just gave Jerome Felton a 3 year contract totaling 7.5 million. He was all pro, best blocking back in the league. Younger than Leach. As we are going to run the football a LOT less than the Vikings for MANY reasons, one called Ponder, the other Peterson, I would pay not a nickel more than 6 million total for 3 years for Leach, if that. Cost versus production. If we had Peterson? Different story.
Great to see y'all here, and welcome back, Mando.

Wow YG, Great post at 7:10, Also the team that scores the most Usually wins..
What a tool.

Craig M, sorry for the domestic thing.

The value of the Dolphins declined by $40 million since Ross bought the team. Ross bought the Dolphins for 1.1 billion(1,100,000,000). They are now valued at 1.06 billion(1,060,000,000). or 1 billion and 60 million dollars.

However, Ross made up for the 40 million dollar loss to his own pockets, selling minority shares of the Dolphins.

Philbins 1st year was worse then Sporano's.

*Than Milk In Your Mouth.

Posted by: Dashi | July 14, 2013 at 08:35 PM

dashe does have an obsession with jizzle and swallowing. Most likely latent fantasies trying to emerge. It is a matter of him struggling to come out of the closet.

Tannehill is not accurate enough to be an NFL QB.

I spoke with Pittsburgh Steeler lb Larry Foote about 1 month and a half ago.

Posted by: I LOVE FAKING 17-0-IN-YUR-ASS! | July 15, 2013 at 06:44 PM


I'm sure this ranks as one of the most exciting events of his life.


I have an even better idea. How about we change the name of the all-pro nominated team to the Miami Dolphins.

In over half century of nominating the annual all-pro team, they have yet to win one championship or sb title. Their record is still 0-0-0.

They have 0 wins, 0 ties, and 0 losses. Now, do ou see why a team can never have an all pro player at every position? Funny, how most dolfans think that's the kind of team we need. Hell, the salary wouldn't allow, even for only one season.

We have several chances to get to the championship,m but either a collapse by our defense, or a bad game by Marino and the offense prevented our advancing.
It's really in the last 7-8 seasons the Fins lack of All Pro quality talent has been this egregious. Add to that less than stellar performance from our HC's and GM's, and it's no wonder we've been down.
However, this season will be VERY positive if Tanny progresses to a state at least equal with a guy with half his (Tanny's) talent, such as Andy Dalton.
I believe Tanny's improvement hinges less on a Full back, and more on his reads, ability to get it out quicker, running ability, and now a REAL NFL caliber receiving group.

Sorry, I meant we HAD several chances, etc.

But I don't know Deek.

Tannehill is our most athletic qb since David Woodley. Probably much faster than Woodley. Our most cerebral qb ever is easily Bob Griese. Our qb with the most natural talent ever is easily Dan Marino.

Our qb with most guts ever is easily Jay Fiedler.

I said all of that to say this. If we can take a dash of what all of these qb's, mix them together in a bowl, and end up with Ryan Tannehill. I would become a greatly appreciative dolfan.

If Ryan Tannehill can initiate a little of what all of these Dolphins qb's did well. Then Tannehill has a very good chance to become the greatest Dolphins qb ever!


Thanks for the comments man. Things happen for a reason. Long story. I won't bore the blog with the details....onwards and upwards.

Woodshed, sorry for the long delay. I was busy with my youngest daughter today. Yes, I'm originally from Scotland and Edinburgh will be very much on the list of places I'll be going. Looking forward to it.

Tannehill now's surrounded by enough offensive talent to make a definite determination of what we really have in him. In my opinion, he has enough offensive talent to be ranked no lower than 13th best nfl qb by season's end.

If he's truly franchise caliber, he'll finish 2013 ranked inside of the top 10 qb's of the 2013-14 Nfl season.

How does a Vonta Leach go from the Super Bowl champions to the lowly Dolphins?

Ya could surround TanneHenne with an all star team and he'd still stink....

Tannehill is our most athletic qb since David Woodley. Probably much faster than Woodley. Our most cerebral qb ever is easily Bob Griese. Our qb with the most natural talent ever is easily Dan Marino.

Our qb with most guts ever is easily Jay Fiedler.

Posted by: I LOVE FAKING 17-0-IN-YUR-ASS! | July 15, 2013 at 07:54 PM

Actually, Jay Feidler was the most athletic Dolphin QB ever, having won numerous decathelon championships.

Craig M,

I stayed on Leith St when I was in Edinburgh. If you get down that way I highly recommend a takeout joint called Eatalia. Great meat pies,haggis, black and white puddings at low prices!

You Can Say the Stadium Depreciated In Value. With A New Stadium The Dolphins Value Probably Gets To $1.5B.

Just Saying. Depending On The Stadium Or The Upgrades.

He Would've Made That Up In 1 Superbowl.

On The FB. Lorenzo Neal.

Remember Him. He Was LT FB. And Eddie Georges If I Am Not mistaken. A Good Lead Back Makes Sure The RB Doesn't Get Hit Behind The Line. Usually Goes After The First LB In the Hole. A Good FB Will Even Make Mike Pouncey Look Better. (They Should've Worn A Patriots Hat, Leach Would've Advised Them.)

Not Saying he Is, BUT L.Miller has Ladanion Tomlinson Potential. He Can Be That Good. He Is Faster Than LT. LT Was A Better All Around RB Though. They Are Built The Same way. 5'10" 220lbs. They Can Score From Anywhere. At Anytime.

E.Lacy Is Like Ricky Williams. Different Back, Power Back, But Still Great. They Run You Over For 3 Qtrs, So By the 4th QTR You Are Scared To Tackle Them. And People Just Don't Chase Them.

The Dolphins have lost more then half their fan base and would never get a dime more then 900 mill these days according to Bloomberg. That means 200 mill lost from what Ross paid. The stadium is also decrepid and 2nd oldest in the league.

In collegiate comparisons Eddie Lacy couldn't hold Ricky Williams jock strap. Who the hell would be tempted to give up an entire draft for Eddie Lacy.

Again, Dashi, you only prove you've lost your faking mind!

Our most cerbral QB was Pennington. Not Greise.

Any NFL team that 'needs' a fullback to complete thier offense is pathetic.

We are not pathetic!
We do not need a FB!
Vonta Leach is a phat phuc that would phold in the sultry Miami climate!
Leach I hope you read this and sign somewhere else.
We Do Not Need You Vonta Leach!

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