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Update on Jerry, today's practice [Updated]

The Dolphins are hopeful that John Jerry's knee injury will respond to treatment and not require surgery but as there's a possibility the treatment won't work the team will continue searching for possible starting combinations for the interior line that obviously don't include Jerry.

[Update 1: I'm told, as clarification, there is a possibility Jerry's already had surgery and treatment would be for post-op rehab. My source declined to be specific for fear of retribution from the Dolphins who fine players for speaking about injuries, admonish agents not to speak to the media and otherwise want to keep all injury information out of the public eye. Either way, Jerry is expected to miss 2-4 weeks total.]

Think Josh Samuda as either a guard or center.

Think Mike Pouncey as either a center or guard.

Think Dallas Thomas as a left guard.

Think Richie Incognito as either a left guard or right guard.

It's complicated, folks and today I'll be writing my column for tomorrow's paper on the topic. As for the column in today's paper, that was on Cameron Wake and his continued expected excellence. Today' for example, Wake blew up two plays in the backfield, making experienced right tackle Tyson Clabo look bad on the plays.

As I write in my column, Wake started this training camp by passing his conditioning test. He didn't run his test with other defensive linemen, however. He ran with the defensive backs. Please read the column.

As for today's practice, Armon Binns injured his left knee during one-on-one drills versus defensive backs. He limped over to trainers and eventually spent the rest of the practice watching on the sideline. I'd assume he'll have an MRI but don't think it's a catastrophic injury because he wasn't carted off the field and actually walked off after practice on his own power.

[Update 2: Despite limping off the field, Binns is apparently done for the season. The Herald's Barry Jackson is reporting Binns tore his ACL and MCL. The Dolphins should be looking for more WR help this evening.]

Rishard Matthews, meanwhile, was something of a mystery. He was around for stretching in the Nick Saban Memorial Bubble but then was not present when the team moved practice outdoors. Coach Joe Philbin declined to speak about either Binns or Matthews as is his policy about injured players and players not present at practice.

[Update 3: The Herald's Adam Beasley is reporting Matthews will be out for several weeks, citing an NFL source. Not good for a player that needs repetitions in practice to make the team.]

Kicker Caleb Sturgis (groin), running back Cameron Marshall (hamstring) and defensive back Jamar Taylor (hernia), were all held out of practice.

On the bright side for the Dolphins, today was the first day first-round pick Dion Jordan participated in all the drills. He was in during the team period. He got into the one-on-ones versus offensive linemen. He also worked on special teams, as he's been doing for several days now.

My initial impression?

Jordan is lean and long but I didn't see any explosiveness from him in pass rushing. Obviously it is only one practice. Obviously, it is his first getting physical. So This means practically nothing. But if you want to know what I saw from him today ... not a lot initially. He's got to pick up steam.

As to those one-on-one drills between the OL and DL, allow me to share one full period of padded, helmeted, big man football:

Jonathan Martin vs. Dion Jordan. Win to Martin.

Josh Samuda vs. Randy Starks. Draw.

Mike Pouncey vs. Paul Soliai. Win to Soliai.

Richie Incognito vs. Jared Odrick. Win to Incognito.

Tyson Clabo vs. Cameron Wake. Clabo jumps, so illegal procedure.

Jeff Adams vs. Dion Jordan. Draw.

Dallas Thomas vs. Vaughn Martin. Draw.

Sam Brenner vs. Kheeston Randall. Draw.

Lance Louis vs. Tracy Robertson. Win to Louis.

Nate Garner vs. Koa Misi. Win to Garner.

Will Yeatman vs. Olivier Vernon. Win to Yeatman.

Randy Starks blew up somebody but I missed the number of the Olineman.

Andrew McDonald vs. Tristan Okpalaugo. Win to McDonald.

Martin vs. Emeka Onyenekwu. Win to Martin.

Samuda vs. Starks. Draw.

Brenner vs. Chris Burnette. Win to Burnette.

Incognito vs. Martin. Win to Martin.

Clabo vs. Derrick Shelby. Draw.

Chris Barker vs. Jordan. Win to Barker.

Thomas vs. A.J. Francis. Win to Francis.

Burden vs. Randall. Draw.

Louis vs. Robertson. Win for Louis.

Yeatman vs. Onyenekwu. Win to Onyenekwu.

Brian Thomas vs. Burnette. Win to Brian Thomas.

Brenner vs. Francis. Win to Brenner.

Barker vs. Randall. Draw.

Andrew McDonald vs. Okpalaugo. Draw.

Martin vs. Vernon. Win to Vernon.

Samuda vs. Tracy Robertson. Win to Samuda.

Burden vs. Burnette. Bad snap and win to Burnette.

Pouncey vs. Randall. Win to Pouncey.

Clabo vs. Misi. Win to Clabo.   

By the way, today's practice featured the first fracas of training camp. Samuda and Odrick had a little difference of opinion and that resulted in a wrestling match that had the offensive lineman on top of the defensive lineman. When the pair got untangled, Odrick snapped off his helmet and wanted to go back for more but by then the coaches and other players had stepped between him and Samuda. No harm done.

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This pretty much proves the team sees Jerry as a valuable starting player. Of course, some of you will continue to say Jerry doesnt really fit Philbins system, as though you would know better than him.

Come on, what about the important stuff, anyone wearing any hats with naughty sayings ?

Dion Jordan is a bust ? Noted, Armando, you are written down as saying so.

Monte,

From the last blog....

Not sure what makes you think Armando is an authority on the chemistry between Tannehill and Wallace. He obviously wasn't at Saturday's practice, as we got nothing from him, just the Mike Pouncey story.

I'm sure when Tannehill and Wallace do have success, Monte, you'll go into hiding, cause that's what guys like you do.

Good to have you back, man.
I have really missed Your reports.

Craig,

Check out the PBP, Wallace is quoted as saying they don't have chemistry yet.

Omar Kelly once said Wake was a bust and has now had to live with such stupidity, now it's Armando's turn with Jordan. When will the Miami local papers hire real sports reporters and no this trash ?

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Look, Armando came up with a new entry.

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how could wake ever be a bust, he came from the cfl. no expectations

Hard to trust Armando on his observations of Camp. Like most other reporters from SoFla he is very biased for the Players he likes/dislikes. Only exception to this is James Walker, but he works for ESPN. heheheh

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Good Post Mando.

This Is What You Should've Done Yesterday.

I Heard The Fins QB Didn't Have A Turnover For 3 Straight Days.

Pat Devlin Is Tearing It Up.

Gillislee Disappeared Once The Pads Came On.

Samunda Is Sharing First Team Snaps.

D.Thomas, Both Of Them Have Been Doing Good In Camp.

We Might Have 4 Of Our 5 Linemen Starting Under 25 And Ready To Play Together For A While.

LT-J.Martin
LG-D.Thomas
C-Samnda
RG-Pouncey
RT-Clabo

Next Year Spend A 1st Or A 2nd On A RT. And O-Line Set For The Next Decade.

Who is Matt Sturgis? Caleb's cousin?

I See L.Louis Is Practicing In One On One Drills. Will He Be Participating In Team Drills Soon?

Oscar,

James Walker Is A Die Hard Bills Fan. But I Think He Is Opening Up To The Fins. Moving Down Here Does That To People.

thanks Mando. Atleast our OL has Wake to compete against in camp, they'll be ready.

Wake for president, errrr defensive sack leader of the NFL. Something like that. Tear their effen heads off Camm. And don't stop till you see organs.

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I've purchased my "Free ALoco" hat.

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It shouldn't take a decade to build an oline. Cogs and Clabo are over 30 now. We'll be addressing oline for another 3 years.

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Craig Mouth Moron M,

How many pages is your book of other bloggers quotes at? You have a lot to keep track of in your he said she said war with every blogger.

Here's one you can add. YOU'RE A DOPE! What are the chances that one makes it in?

You're contribution to the blog is ZERO. Unless you consider tattle tailing on everyone who rightfully calls you names a contribution.

It's no wonder why you're wife changed the locks & left you.

411 that is pretty low even for a troll. No man should throw things like that in someone else's face. Give your head a shake.

After practice Wallace said he and Tannehill "are going to progress every day" but that the chemistry isn't there yet.


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/sports/football/miami-dolphins-tannehill-wallace-still-working-on-/nY54t/

Tannehill has gone four days without an INT. He is still hanging into the ball too long but the decision making when he throws seems to be improving, at least in practice.

Maybe they told the Defense to lay low, let RT gain some confidence and prevent any negative headlines that would get in his head.

Jeff Ireland can't be blamed if Dion Jordan is a bust. After all, the two elite players were already taken by the time the Dolphins were on the clock. There were pretty slim pickings in that third slot. Frankly, I think Bill Parcells had a lot to do with the pick. As for Jeff Ireland, he is completely blameless.

Mando that you for a very good report.
I will update us with Henne's continued success as soon as the report is filed in Jville.

This is a very good system:
Mando will keep us up on the Phins and
I will keep us up on Henne so we can enjoy Tanne & Henne.

Every throw, every practice, every game!

Jordan needs to put on 20-30 lbs before he can start anyway.

After he puts the weight on then we can judge him.

And, this ends just the first week of Training Camp! I expect that everyone will progress before he season starts. My biggest concern at this point is injuries. So far, nothing major, but a few dings. Hopefully, everyone will be healthy by week 1. We'll know more tomorrow night at the scrimmage and even more once we play the Cowgirls. Just because they all aren't perfect out of the gate in TC is no need to hit the panic button. Or, use the "bust" word!

Like Dash-I Said,

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Dashi is correct.
This is a football blog.
In this blog we follow 2 QBs: Henne & Tanne

Mando informs us of Tanne.
I inform us of Henne.

We discuss every throw, every practice, every TD, every 300 yard game.

We all love Henne & Tanne!

Daniel Thomas, Michael Egnew, and John Jerry have no business in the NFL. They shouls all be cut before game 1.

Fraud,

3 QBs.

T-Hill
Devlin
Henne

Henne Is Still Better Than M.Moore In My Book. Henne Is Way Better Than M.Sanchez.

Its not Jeff Irelands fault the team stinks. All he does is pick the players and the coaches.

T-Hill Had A 400Yd Game As A Rookie With No WRs, And Dansby Throwing The Game.


Jeff Ireland can't be blamed if Dion Jordan is a bust.

Posted by: Ireland's Republican Army | July 28, 2013 at 02:27 PM

HUH? Oh, I guess your name says it all. Newsflash-
Ireland should and hopefully will be responsible for his work. This was a big offseason for the Fins.

Real fans are tired of waiting.. it's a big step forward this year or fire Jeffy boy!

Its not Jeff Irelands fault the team stinks. All he does is pick the players and the coaches.


Posted by: Ray Ray | Jul 28, 2013 3:16:15 PM

Not true. He also insults draft choices, and curses at paying customers.

Even Devlin is probably better then Tannehill lol

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Daniel Thomas, Michael Egnew, and John Jerry have no business in the NFL. They shouls all be cut before game 1.

Posted by: Steve in Ottawa

But those weren't Irlends picks either. At least some would want us all to believe that. Jordan will undoubtably be the biggest Ireland pick to be held under a microscope by far... and rightfully so after trading up for garbage like Thomas.

But many fans will just find another excuse for Jeff. I will be the first one to say I'm wrong and support him if this is the year the Fins become legit. But I won't be at all surprised if it doesn't happen.

Just got back into town and was looking forward to reading about what's been happening at training camp the past few days but instead was greeted with this

"Maurkice Pouncey, Steelers give Dolphins a lesson"

The story, in a couple of words, terribly unimportant. It would have been nice to hear about practice. I guess I came to the wrong place.

It sure is looking that this might be Ireland's best Draft to date. Dallas Thomas will probably start, Dion Sims is balling, Will Davis is playing well, others.

tvegas, Irelands republican army is all sarcasm

Posted by: mike | July 28, 2013 at 03:23 PM

Haven't been on a the board for awhile Mike. Makes sense and thanks for clearing that up. Sad thing is that others here actually would believe that. Exact reason I took some time off until real football starts to be played. Go Fins! I'm excited about the season and hope success finally comes our way again

Irescum should be fired for the D Thomas pick alone....or the Dez Bryant racially profiling and insulting....or for losing every year.....or for drafting more busts then any GM in history.

How does Ireland wind up with all those UDFAs that are good players and nobody seems to want like Devlin, Samuda, others.

Just got back into town and was looking forward to reading about what's been happening at training camp the past few days but instead was greeted with this

"Maurkice Pouncey, Steelers give Dolphins a lesson"

Posted by: Phins78 | July 28, 2013 at 03:25 PM


Ross's Dolphins are just classless losers with no discipline. Its sad.

devlin is a good player? lmao

You don't think so, 2 watt, about Devlin? Why not?

Hi oscar!

hes 3 string lol

Armando should be fired for allowing the disgusting filthy posts by the two muskateers to continue unabated for years now.

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