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Dolphins lose, say they're ready

So the Dolphins lost to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 17-16. They're 1-3 this preseason.

So, of course, they believe they're ready for the regular season.

"Yeah, I'm ready," running back Lamar Miller said. "I just feel like I'm ready. I can help this team win. I'm ready."

He should feel ready because Miller thinks he won the starting running back job Saturday night.

"I do feel like I won the job," he said.

Miller gained 35 yards on eight carries. That's a 4.4 average. It included a 20-yard run. With Daniel Thomas gaining 3 yards on seven carries -- a 0.4 yard per carry average -- I do not disagree.

Lamar Miller is your starting running back.

WR Mike Wallace, who had three catches but dropped on pass, also thinks he's ready to go for the 2013 season.

"I hope so, it's two weeks away, so I hope I'm ready," Wallace said. "Yeah, I think I'm ready. I'm pretty sure. I'll be ready to make some plays when my number's called."

Quarterback Ryan Tannehill, who played well and delivered a 90 QB rating, believes the offense is "just a hair off."

"I think we're close," Tannehill said. "We've progessed each week and now it's exciting. Now it's time to buckle it up and play for real."

As for himself, Tannehill thinks it's coming.

"I'm progressing," he said. "I'm moving in the right direction."

Coach Joe Philbin wasn't quite as certain things are all set to go as the Dolphins have one preseason game left -- a game in which the starters aren't likely to play very long.

"We didn't play well enough in any phase of the game to win the game," Philbin said.

How about the red zone offense, Joe?

"Not good enough," he said.

Third down offense?

"I didn't think we were very good there. We have a lot of work to do."

The starting offense overall?

"I guess we were okay as an offense," Philbin said. "It wasn't great."

Michael Egnew didn't catch a pass nor was he targetted. Charles Clay had one catch on six targets. Dion Sims had one catch off his only target.

John Jerry started at right guard. Josh Samuda played with starters and on second team after Jerry left the game with approximately 16 snaps. Lance Louis played in the second half.

And then this:

For whatever struggle the Dolphins offense is having I refer you to the fact the Jets and Bills are a disaster offensively.

In Buffalo, neither E.J. Manuel nor Kevin Kolb can stay healthy. It is to the point the team will be working out multiple QBs on Sunday and one of those is former Dolphins draft pick bust John Beck.

In New York, Rex Ryan is seemingly trying to get fired. Rookie quarterback Geno Smith three three interceptions and actually stepped out of the end zone on a quarterback scramble for a safety. Bad night.

Mark Sanchez had a worse night. Ryan actually inserted the veteran into the game in the fourth quarter behind the reserve offensive line. And Sanchez injured his right (throwing) shoulder.

No words. 

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ill take the under i see 7 wins

I say 8 only because the Jets and Bills are now the two worst offenses in football. We should sweep them.

i say we go 3-1 in those 4 games. i would of taken over with keller

I thnk EJ Manuel is expected to start the opener.
Geno Smith hrew 3 picks but he also threw for 199yds and a TD, and the Jets won the game.

I'm not a fan of Jets or Bills I'm just saying.

jets are beyond awful, probaly worst team in nfl. bills in my opinion are on there way up

McNutt worked well in the seam yesterday. He's the 4th wr. Just like I argued last week.

Anyone seen Chad bumphis?

What is wrong with most of you? I've never seen dumber people in my life.

Raiders and Jags are worst in my opinion.
And if the Jags OL is going to give up 7 sacks a game then let Gabbe take that beating, Henne can ride out his contract year on the sideline.

mark wrs looked good. but man we have no tes at all. clay is garbage

Fake fraud at 2:02

Get off my handle phuc phace

- 34-for-56 passing for 377 yards, three touchdowns and no interceptions  there ya go mace brainiac!!!!! Thill is just fine.

Sims needs more time on the field. He could be a find. Clay has had his chance. Sims and Egnew might make a great pair since one is a great blocker and the other a great seam threat.

I see the Ravens cut TE V. Shiancoe this morning, he looked decent (better than Clay for sure) in Thursdays preaseason game. I think he is worth bringing in for a look anyway. Overall last nights game was a positive in my book. Defense looks real good. Offense is getting better and I think Tanne has improved a lot from last season.

Dion Sims, only bright spot at TE. Still a rook, but expect bigger things as the season goes on. By final 4gms I expect him to be one of the better TE's in afc.

Clay? Egnew? Both should be out of Miami by 2014, if not earlier. At least one should go during or before final cuts.

sims let couple guys go right by him, didnt block anyone

henne contract year,lol yeah career over guy is horrible

ONCE AGAIN THE 'EXPERTS' GOT IT WRONG

During the offseason the experts claimed that the only reason the Jets didn't release Sanchez was because his salary was guaranteed.

Well if he's out for the season then the salary gets laid off on the insurance company.

Sanchez' injury was the best thing that could happen for the Jets not the worst thing.

Clay was hugely disappointing when needing to shine most. He wasn't even decent last night. Very evident he has genetic DNA that shrinks as the moment grows larger.

Last night should be final evidence needed that Charles Clay is a total dud.

Maybe Clay would play better if he changed his name to Ali.

dusty,

Sims is still a rook. Saints didn't even begin playing Jimmy Graham until 2nd half of season in rook year for same reasons. Sims may even be slightly ahead of Graham as far as blocking in the same point of their careers.

By 2nd half of season, I expect Sims will be one of thebetter TE's in this league.

good luck with that. and sims will never ever be anywhere near graham

Sims is a rookie for christ sake and it's only preseason. He has had very limited reps. Most of you would be horrible gm's because you'd cut every player that didn't make the probowl by year 2.

Looking at the preseason overall, the reality is:
1. Our defense will be top 5. Our defensive line, LB and safeties are excellent. Our CB are young but talented. And as Jordan progresses he will provide a special sauce. But for all the negative guys - of course defense does not matter, who needs a great defense?
2. We have upgraded our receivers from last year markedly - but for the negative guys - of course having talented WR does not matter, who needs great WR?
3. Our offensive line now like last year is shaky. This can be a major problem for Tannehill. For the negative guys - congratulations! This is a real problem. Of course, when the Dolphins spent all their draft picks on the OL that was a BAD move by Ireland but now the failure to spend out draft picks on the OL is a BAD move by Ireland. Do it or don't do it, anything Ireland does is wrong. Got it.
4. Our running game is inconsistent. On one play Lamar is incredible and the next play he goes down with an arm tackle. Ditto Thomas but without the speed. We also have no Fullback who can be relied on. For the negative guys, Congratulations! this is a real problem.
5. Ireland acquired a terrific Tight End in Keller but a cheap shot took him down. This is clearly Irelands fault. We have drafted a few TE but none of them look good. That can legitimately be blamed on Ireland.
6. Tannehill has had QB ratings of >100 in all the preseason games except this game where he had a 90. Terrible?? For the negative guys it is. Tannehill was 7th ranked in throws of >20 yards but he cannot throw deep well - is that right??

The three negative things that are key are:
1. We had an excellent TE Ireland acquired and lost him due to injury
2. We made a mistake losing Long and even more so letting Bush go - Irelands mistake - since Martin is probably a step down from even an injured Long and Lamar MIller is no Bush at this point. As the OL heals up and Martin gets more experience this might not be so true but it is for now.
3. We are a very young team. The offensive coaching staff has NOT gotten their skills to a pro level and they have not learned the playbook to a level of fluid competence. Consequently during the first half of the season we will be on a learning curve and will probably lose a couple of games we should have on.

The three positive things are:
1. We strengthened our LB and defensive backfield and added what will be a later emerging strength to our pass rush as Jordan kicks in. Man, we have a killer defense.
2. Tannehill is definitely improving. Knows the offense. Has emerged as a leader. Playing with confidence. Can make all the throws. Needs time and is not getting it from the OL (a problem). But will definitely be significantly upgraded from last year.
3. Our WR are soooo much upgraded from last year. We have been sparing in using them and have stuck with a plain vanilla offense in preseason. But we will definitely be making chunk yardage.

Bottom line: Miami will be much better on defense than last year. Miami will have a better passing offense than last year. Miami will struggle in the red zone with nobody replacing Fasano. Miami will probably have a weaker running game this year than last. Overall this year's Miami team could beat last years team. Meanwhile the Bills and Jets are both worse as are the Patriots. I think we win at least 9 games, probably 10-6. We will do better in the second half of the year than the first half as our young team gets coached up and familiar with the system. We will be peaking going into the playoffs, will win our first playoff game. This will be the signal of the beginning of a great series of years for the Dolphins. All the Ireland haters will be shunned and disgraced. All the true Dolphins fans will be happy for the first time in two decades. And then we will have world peace - except for our enemies who we will encourage to fight each other

dusty is one negative nelly on everything. and generally ignorant too.

Alpha, until you achieve blog royalty status, nobody is going to read more than two sentences of your novel.

Take it easy on dusty. He's our first hand source in guarding against picking up garbage from KC.

Dusty is from Mizzou. He knows all of the garbage on KC's roster.

Alpha, until you achieve blog royalty status, nobody is going to read more than two sentences of your novel.
Posted by: Buckley | August 25, 2013 at 02:34 PM


At first glance, I thought that my scroll wheel was broken.

Great analysis, Alpha! If only more fans understood what a great job Jeff Ireland has done. There is way too much emphasis on wins and losses on this board. Ross has stated he is committed to Jeff Ireland, and it is only right that he should be committed.

HUGE CONCERN:

Hartline has dropped 2 redzone td's this preseason. Makes the difficult catch, except when he's in the endzone.

EXACTLY LIKE LAST SEASON.

Exactly why he had only 1 td catch in 2013. The most important question surrounding Hartline:

When will he begin to make the TOUGH CATCH while in the opponent's endzone? Until then, I don't ever see him being more than a 5 td catch a season wr, at best.

Ireland's draft misses have been well documented, but he does make his share of hits. Vernon and Miller were two great 3rd and 4th round picks. Martin is looking like a steal for a 2nd round LT. Wake is Wake. Ellerbe and Wheeler and Wallace and Keller and Clabo in one offseason? Wow. Too bad about Keller.

Sims may be his next find. Many sources are saying he catches the ball much better than anyone expected and he is already a great blocker. He has trimmed down since the combine so his run times are faster than measured. This is the guy I want to see more of. Also if you seen his interviews, very laid back, jovial, relaxed. He strikes me as someone who will keep his cool under high pressure situations.

If only more fans understood what a great job Jeff Ireland has done. There is way too much emphasis on wins and losses on this board.

Posted by: Ireland's Republican Army | August 25, 2013 at 02:38 PM


If too much emphasis is placed on wins and loses, it was a HUGE ERROR to fire Cam Cameron.

Listen

@ Alpha nice long write up but on the money for the most part and fair too. Here some counterpoints to your discussion.

1. The TE position was covered by Ireland. No GM in the league would anticipate that kind of cheap shot injury. He brought in a proven vet and drafted a TE. Bottom line we can scoop up someone after the cuts. So we may still get someone.

2. The Oline has guys coming back from injury. That should be improved when the rust is knocked off and they get completely healthy. Not to mention but they played the #1 D against the run from last year. Bottom line they should improve and may bring in a vet here too.

3. All the negative guys are only a few people that sign in under many names. Making them seem like a larger population than they are.

Bodine,

An olineman drafted 2nd rd isn't a steal unless he becomes a perennial pro bowler. Just as expected of a 1st rd drafted olineman.

Jonathan Martin is far........ from a 2nd rd steal right now. @n rd olinemen are expected to be very good. 1st rd'ers are expected to be exceptional. When a 2nd rd'er becomes exceptional, then he's considered a steal.

Yeah, TEs showed nothing outside of Sims. McNutt in the 4th WR set may help compensate for teh lack of a TE. McNUtt is big, real big, and should easily dominate other teams 4th cover man. If the Qb can hit in the hands then he can do damage.

Gibson is the other big wr in the middle that has assumed a lot of Keller's targets. Man, he will get a boatload of opportunity in this offense.

Guys like Miller, Martin, Ellerbee, Wallace and Clabo are not allowed to be on good teams like Atl, Pitt or Bal.

dadsmith,

IMO, the oline doesn't get to the next level until Louis proves he can overtake John Jerry. As long as Jerry is the best we have at OG, this position will always be a question mark.

Jerry didn't play very well last night. Call it rust or whatever. Even when completely healthy there have always been issues surrounding his play. Consistency seems to be the primary culprit.

Listen, you bunch of doom Sayers this team is going to be scary good, top 5 defense and Ill bet my bottom dollar that thill guides them to a top 10 offense. Do you doubters remember the 85 bears, same team only our o is better. Watch and see, and then I want all of you to turn in your fan card and go root for the jets.

But Tannheill and the first team offense had a great preseason. On pace for 25+ points in all three preseason game. No interceptions.

Look poised to become a top half offense in 2013

The 85 Bears had super stars like Mike Singletary and William 'The refrigerator' Perry. The had a QB that was not afraid to ridicule the commssioner by wearing a headband with the word 'Rozelle' written by hand on it.
They had a real coach named Mike Ditka.
They were a dominant super bowl winning team.
We are no where near the '85 Bears.

MIT,
When you say the O had a great preseason are you including the Dallas, Houston and TB games? They put up how many points last night against the 30th ranked D?

How wrong were they? a while back it was the panic of camp when J. Martin was our only LT and they said no thanks to Fat Albert and drafting a LT. Well Pro Football Focus recently had Martin rated as the 2nd best tackle in the preseason and the guy has played solid all camp. Not perfect but better and improving. So they were obviously about as wrong as you can get including the talking head media.

Dusty,

Seriously man? Ireland's getting fired for the Jordan trade-up? Shouldn't we at least wait until we've seen the team play a down that matters? Come on man...one of the dumbest things you've ever said on here. You want your GM to play it safe and never trade up? Go cheer for the Chiefs man.....seriously!

@17-0 For sure that's why Louis was brought here and that needs to happen for the sake of the team and T-Hill's health. But by no means does it mean Jerry won't play better or that Louis won't unseat Jerry. Even given time I believe Samuda would have done better then he started out and did appear to be improving. As much as I piled on the guy.

...I wonder if after watching the tape of last nights game if the FO will be keeping a close eye on the waiver wire for a TE? I'm not jumping ahead of myself, I'm not even saying that perhaps the tape will tell a different story. But from the broadcast. It sure looked like Clay had a tough game.

Now I know that some are going to respond, or have the opinion that why would we take another teams reject? Or it's too early to give up on player x..Perhaps. I'm just saying that is a possibility that because of the numbers game. A quality veteran may be available that fits our system that could be an upgrade..

I'm sure if asked. Philbin would probably say that "Clay did some good things" He may have. Stuff we can't see,or understand. I'm just saying last night he didn't look the part of that seem threat TE this offense in need of.

..An interesting point that was made by Ireland during the NFL Radio Networks Camp tour. Was the point about Martin getting an opportunity to play LT for the entirety of camp. That the guys he was blocking in practice Ireland felt were as good as any in the division. So sure he was going to get beat some. But what wasn't or had not been written. Were all the times Martin blocked those guys. How many times he won. Which if you added them up. A much higher number for Martin then the defenders.

Perhaps the defense will help the offense more then we know.

Dadsmith,

Relying on an undrafted rookie fa(Samuda) to become an immediate starter and play great rightaway is pretty unrealistic. I applaud for making the roster his rookie season.

Pretty much say it all about the overall status of our rg position when hoping an udfa can seize the starting rg position. When as a udfa, should be given 3-4yrs to FULLY develop.

I applaud what he's done as a udfa, but, he's still a ways from being the CONSISTENT olineman needed to become an every game starter. Maybe in another year or two he can be this. Just not right now.

TE Leonard Pope cut by theBears

DD,

I expect Martin to have a few hiccups in protection this year. The most important thing right now is Martin does continue to improve. Slowly his light is beginning glow a little brighter and steadier.

In another season or two, I expect he can become a mid to bottom to 10 LT. As for this season, I expect him to grow a little more solid as the season goes on. But far from disaster. Which many posters forecasted before camp began.

mid to bottom top 10

The Dolphins are pure garbage. Nothing has changed.

..YG. Good post. @3:30..Well said.

An olineman drafted 2nd rd isn't a steal unless he becomes a perennial pro bowler. Just as expected of a 1st rd drafted olineman.


Posted by: LOVE FAKING 17-0-IN-YUR-ASS! | | August 25, 2013 at 02:49 PM

There are way more first round oliners taken than there are spots on the popularity contest pro bowl list. So even if they all play great there is no room at the dance.

I'll concede Martin still has to prove himself, but if he can hold down the position and be in the top ten then it was a very good pick. He was rated as a first round pick but fell down the board further than expected.

...I think what has been lost in last nights game was the pace in which the first team offense played. I think it was 45 plays in the first half..That is impressive. If we can play with that tempo all year, then convert redzone chances into more td's..We should be playing meaningful games come Novemebr-December.

Bodine,

Agreed. If Martin can become a top 10 LT, then definitely a great 2nd rd pick. As a 2nd rd pick, I wouldt want my LT to ever be worse than top 15 as a LT starter.

Cracking the top 10 is the ideal goal. From #6 and higher is just pure gravy and then becomes "steal territory".

Just got done watching the first half of the Bucs’ game and I do not understand how Clay can be so clueless on the art of route running. This is his third training camp. How ther heck did Irescum draft him?

ETF, I only care about how the first teamersfare. I could care less if the third string Qb puts up 3 points or the 4th string RB fumbles the game away. The first halves were very strong for both first teams in the three games they played.

IN teh Dallas game significant parts of the offense and defense did not play

I can't remember the last time I saw Clay make a play that impressed me. Maybe he practices well but it sure doesn't show on the field. Going into his 3rd season, if he can't pull away from Egnew and Sims, it's time to give those guys a shot on the field NOW and see what they got.

Ireland has a history of hanging on to a player too long, waiting endlessly for them to develop. I think Philbin has at times been able to get Ireland to wake up, maybe he can do it again.

I don't think the coaches plan was for Samuda to win the job or that he was competing for the job. I believe they just wanted him to hold down the position long enough to get either Louis or Jerry back. When that didn't work out well to start out with they tried Garner too at RG and he got hurt as well. I'm not as worried about the OL as some but it still must improve for the offense to get clicking

I would even say roDRIGUEZ showed more in mop up work then Clay did in last night's game. ROugh night for #42.

Not a lot to play for this Thursday? There's a whole lot for these TEs

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