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Dolphins react to Dustin Keller's knee injury

HOUSTON -- Dolphins coach Joe Philbin, who has a curious habit of not even fielding questions about injuries, had no choice late Saturday but answer questions about the right knee injury to tight end Dustin Keller.

Philbin said it is too early to determine the seriousness of Keller's injury, although sources within the team are fearing the worst. Philbin said he's hopeful the club gets Keller back sooner rather than later.

The mood in the locker room wasn't nearly so upbeat. Players saw the replay. Some heard Keller writhe in pain when he took defensive back D.J. Swearinger's helmet to the side of his knee. They saw Keller have to be helped up to get on a cart and leave the field via that cart.

"Really painful," receiver Brian Hartline said. "Guy worked his tail off. He was going to be a big part of our offense. It hurt. It's a shame. It's part of the game. There's not much you can do. It's part of playing the game. I'd like to see a higher tackle but you can't blame a guy for trying to make a play."

"It's just an unfortunate thing that happened out there," receiver Mike Wallace said. "Big part of our offense, but that's football. Things happen all the time but it's unfortunate. He's a great guy. Great player. I hate to see that happen. It looked pretty bad. I'm pretty sure he'll be out for a while but it's next man up. Play for him, through him. He's going to watch us, I know that. We just have to keep playing."

If Keller is out for a significant time, perhaps even the season, as expected, the Dolphins might turn to rookie Dion Sims. Or they could go with Charles Clay, who is more a hybrid H-back type player but is closer to the seam threat that Keller was. He may have to move to tight end now.

Clay says he's ready.

"It's been something I've worked on a lot, not only last season but this offseason,"Clay said. "It's something that I feel comfortable doing. But it's something I also feel I need to work on as well. If I'm the next guy up, I'm going to go out there and give it everything I have."

Clay says he benefitted from Keller's presence the last few months in that the veteran gave him tips on how to do his job even before the snap of the ball.

"I've been learning the little things that separate the good players from great players," Clay said. "That's the things I've learned from Dustin -- reading coverages, knowing what to expect before the play starts, things like that. I'm still working on it but that's probably where I've made the most growth so far. I've been working really hard on my blocking. I feel like I've come a long way."

Quarterback Ryan Tannehill, who quickly built a good chemistry with Keller, was optimistic other players would fill the role.

"Those guys are going to have to step up and fill the void," Tannehill said. "I think we have guys that can do it. Now, it's just a matter of making it happen."

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Guys wake up. Martin has done fine two games in a row now. He is getting it. LT is not the problem.

We should have stayed put at 12, taken Eifiert and kept our high second round pick. We'd be a better team TODAY.

GTO,

ome posters here are so dumb they haven't a clue which side of the line is RT or LT. Don't know how many times fans here posted Martin suckd when Clabo(RT) was the side allowing the heat.

Some of the posters here are just plain dumb. Realllly dumb.

man keller, we didnt even know u. good luck next year, one year deal killed him now

Killed me to no ends when pregame posters here were saying they cant wait to see how Martin does against Watts.

It wouldn't be a problem if Martin still played RT, because that's tackle side JJ Watts rushes from. Really, really sharp fans in this blog...

Eifert would have been nice at 12. Malenik Watson could have been the pick in the second round. What in the world is Ireland doing. You go up to 3 to take a guy who just had a surgically repaired shoulder at your deepest position when you have a huge need on the OL. Unbelievable, Ireland better start packing his bags.

Some are plain dumb. Some are plain cowards, like Yellow. Yellow and Cuban got on my case pregame for saying Thomas was not out of the hunt for #1 RB. Well his game was vastly superior to Millers tonight.

Cuban manned up. Showed character. Yellow hid, said goodbye, came back and whined.

But to your point, reading back on the blog, yes, the difference between right and left seems to be a great challenge for some folks here.

I'll bet some don't know the right side of the oline is the left side of the dline.

Wake up??? Moving up to get Jordan was the best move Ireland made in the offseason. The TE position will be fine, Clay will get it if Keller is out and Sims will be the #2 on the depth chart. Hopefully it is just a hyper extension and he only misses the rest of the preseason...

Unfortunate injury. Lets hope for a fast recovery.

The Keller thing is devastating but it happens and blame this one on the new CBA and their player mandate regarding one daily practice given if anybody is watching everybody in the League played extensive minutes in this the 2nd Pre-Season game. The Broncos and Hawks had both Manning and R.Wilson on the field closing the half in their game along with a host of starters. Seems everybody is looking for the recipe to this new practice schedule while getting starters valuable reps.

Also on the Keller play, how many times have you guys seen a player coming across a formation or catching a dump pass in the flat get clipped turning for the ball? The NFL has the horse collar for then stud T.O. and the going at the QB's knees thing because of Brady yet I've seen more guys get serious Ligament damage in the knees on just the play Keller got hurt on that just about any in over 30 yrs. of watching this game, there should a rule for it cause it always seems cheap!

Tannehill doesn't soon correct throwing behind our recievers and the enire starting receiving corps will be waiver material by midseason.......

Oh, but, the homers said it wasn't a problem ust last week. I wonder how many of our receivers end up under surgeon's knife before homers wake up............

Why are we talking about drafting a LT or TE? Martin has looked good and our backup TE's have shown promise. I like the Jordan pick but if we would've picked differently, I say we would've gotten Warmack or Cooper (who I'm really high on) so we could've had a very dominant interior O- line.

fin4

I'm not sure anyone but you feel your posts are so important that you have to copy them from blog to blog.

if "homers" wake up that isnt gonna make a difference on if a guy gets hurt or not. pointless post

See how pinhead4life is blaming Keller's injury on the cba. Queens Clubbers go to any unreachable lengths possible to deflect any blame to Tannehill.

WOW.............................

Tanne still a puzzle. I see a lot of upside, but the mental makeup of the guy is not yet confirmed. He can make great plays, and will make them. The question is will they be enough to counter his bonehead plays.

We are NOT going to replace a very good player like Keller w/ what we have. Those guys aren't Keller and Philbin ain't Don Shula. Sorry but just being real.

If Eiffert's taken @12, it only means it would be Eiffert taken out on the golf cart tonight.

Posted by: LOVE FAKING 17-0-IN-YUR-ASS! | | August 18, 2013 at 12:47 AM

You see a bit obsessed with the T-Hill underthows. Do you blame him for Swearinger aiming his helmet at Keller's knee too?

BTW, Tannehill's QB rating for the preseason is 107. Clearly he isn't our biggest concern.

3rd straight game, it took the 3rd offensive series to look close to an nfl qb. WTF gives with this?

Because every team scores on one of their 1st 2 drives right?!

I like Dion, but since our biggest problem is scoring points in a league of high scoring I might have thought offense #1 priority.

QBR's are way overated for a preseason. During reg season its the measure of an entire game. Im sure had Tannehill played all 4 qtrs. during preseason, that qbr would be far lower.

Actuall what we see now isn't much different from last season's T'hill. Last season he would have 1-3 good drives a game. then the rest are avg to poor.

You guys are entitled to your opinions. But, I haven't seen anything to definitively say Tannehill has made great improvement over last year. At least last ear he wasn't throwing behind his receivers, he was overshooting them when he missed.

Throwing behind leaves them more defenseless than overshooting them.

This might be the turning point for seeing if Clay or Egnew can step up their games. Both show flashes. Hopefully one of them can kick it up a notch now that Keller appears to be done.


Because every team scores on one of their 1st 2 drives right?!


Posted by: Lawrence | August 18, 2013 at 12:55 AM


No, but this is becoming a pattern with Tannehill. He needs to be showing something suggesting he can be a franchise qb. Right now he's proving he may be a middle of the pack starter at best.

Guys, Tannehill's a 8th overall pick. Picked that high you don't get to slowly plug your way along to be determined if you can be great. Greatness shows signs of itself right away.

Clay and Egnew are 3 notches below Keller. Let's not kid ourselves. They are what they are. Saying they have to step up to be Keller is no different than me saying I need to step up to be Superman. Ok, I'll try.

Posted by: The Woodshed Gang | August 18, 2013 at 01:00 AM

Coupled with the slowing starting, and at times inaccurate Tannehill, hope you aren't holding your reath on that. That's not to mention Clay's ben Mr Inconsistent his brief year and Egnew, you know the story.

Eifert was supposedly a 'once every decade' Tight End....and instead Ireland picked a guy WHO MAY POSSIBLY HAVE A CHRONIC SHOULDER PROBLEM !


17-0,

There are too many variables to know if Eifert would have been taken off on a cart tonight. The two athletes run differently. and Eiferts leg may not have necessarry have been in the same place at the same moment as Keller's.

BUT WE'LL NEVER KNOW...BECAUSE, INSTEAD, IRELAND PICKED A TALL, BUT LITE / THIN GUY WITH A BAD SHOULDER !!!!
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Hartline proved once again, inside the redzone he's highly allergic to scoring td's.

The thing to watch for in the final 2 preseason games is will Hartline get a receiving td? This offense will need far more than just Wallace catching td's.

That hit on Keller looked bad.

That injury just sucks. But he might get lucky.

Who the hell said Eiffert was a "ONCE IN A DECADE" TE. I sure missed that one. Everyone usually hears about these sort of things.....

fin4

I'm not sure anyone but you feel your posts are so important that you have to copy them from blog to blog.

Posted by: Sam | August 18, 2013 at 12:49 AM

See how pinhead4life is blaming Keller's injury on the cba. Queens Clubbers go to any unreachable lengths possible to deflect any blame to Tannehill.

WOW.............................

Posted by: LOVE FAKING 17-0-IN-YUR-ASS! | | August 18, 2013 at 12:50 AM

Sam didn't know what I did one way or the other was so important you felt the need to comment on it, thanks for making me such an integral part of your fan experience!


YG,

You make it impossible to even agree with you! Why you went from Football blogger who everybody debated with under Dying Breed to such an overbaring A S S is beyond me, REALLY!

I tell you guys one thing right now:

"I DASMN SURE HOPE THIS DEFENSE CAN SCORE SOME POINTS THIS YEAR".

The oline isn't very good, pass or run, and Tannehill will have his struggles even when the protection is decent. Draft that on your fantasy football.

This looks like a 7-9 team at est......................

As I remember that the "Once in a Decade" characterization of Eifert was made by guys from both ESPN and NFL Network...
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Breaking News:
Ryan Tannehill is NOT the most accurate Quarterback in the NFL.
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Posted by: fin4life | August 18, 2013 at 01:13 AM

Pinhead4life,

Even your memory fails you like an old man succumbed to alzheimer's. You choose to join the Queen Clubbers and attacking me without provocation. You choose sides with your circle-jerking chat buddies before examinating the real truth of the situations.

You've become exactly like them. In full flight from reality, with denial as your domain. You haven't a clue yourun with fools. But, as they say:

"BIRDS OF A FEATHER"...... you know the rest, duck.....

If we can get Jerry and Louis back this will help our OL tremendously. I would still feel better if we could drop Starks to a team with serious DL problems.
I think Sims,although he had hands problems tonight, will work out; but Egnew,whom I have been defending, is really hurting me.
I played TE in my youth;it is not that hard, but you have to have coordination and get position on your defender. Last of all, with any receiver, you have to catch the effin ball. Perhaps, instead of kung fu Egnew should have studied low post basketball.


As I remember that the "Once in a Decade" characterization of Eifert was made by guys from both ESPN and NFL Network...
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Posted by: Cooz | August 18, 2013 at 01:17 AM

All righty then. That explains that. At one time or another they've had guys that thought Tebow was the 2nd comingof a great qb.

Alllllllllllrighty then...........................

Hey Queens Club is going to be my team name in the football pool.

Breed,

If you read my post from the live blog you'll see I agree with you more than you know, I'll post part of it for you below. You've just made it easier to disagree with you because you always find a way to be insulting or condescending (implying superiority)

I gave and still want to give Tannehill every excuse in the book but am not blind. Although the problems at OL aren't helping with Pouncey now blowing his assignments to cover for Samuda. The problem isn't Tannehill physically given he maybe the best athlete outside David Woodley to ever play QB for us but now that in itself maybe the issue as well given I'm now seeing parallels between them!

Woodley also stared everything down and seemed gun shy due to lack of confidence just like Tannehill is looking the difference is I didn't care about 6th Rounder Woodley with Strock in the mix and Shula the inovator always mixing and matching. In honesty the streaky Moore also reminds of Woodley so 2 Woodley's and NO Strock with an 8th overall pick invested in one meaning no option really at the bench and you want everybody to see the bad without hoping there could be good!

Even you and your GLASS HALF EMPTY attitude wants there to be something there given the problems seem to be upstairs or your not a real fan either like the ones you balme of wearing blinders or no??

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A few observations tonight:

1) I admit when I'm wrong and Samuda anywhere near the starting OL is a nightmare! He single handedly was the reason for the 1st drive going 3 & out. On the 2nd down play he let #94 right past him and on 3rd down could easily have been called for holding on Watt were it didn't make a difference anyway given the inside rush from Watt caused the breakdown. I watched the game a full 10 minutes behind the live action running replays so please nothing about the leftside! They were SOLID as was RT the problems lie at RG which is also causing breakdowns with Pouncey whose off his game trying to do to much to help out blowing some of his own assignments which apparently nobody seems to catch or post about??

2) I've been reading about how Tannehill stares down the primary option on pass plays and in his defense he did alot of it last Yr. because they couldn't separate or get through their routes quick enough. This Yr. I really wanted to give him a pass early but now am really wondering because we run an uptempo West Coast O were he should be moving through the reads quicker and unloading his passes faster yet what I see is a classic 5 step drop were he's back there ordering a cup of coffee eyeballing his 1st read till the pocket is collapsed on his head at which time he's throwing it high and away or running to late to gain positive yardage something I also felt he'd be more decisive about this Yr. Kids got the goods physically but the light isn't on upstairs!

Posted by: fin4life | August 18, 2013 at 12:25 AM

While we're on the topic of "Once in a Decade"

There is a Player in Next Years Draft who is rated as a
"Once in a Decade" prospect...

His name is Jadeveon Clowney and he's a DE for South Carolina.
He is 6-6. and his Weight: 272.


Sadly the Dolphins will probably be JUST GOOD ENOUGH, this year
NOT to have a shot at him.
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Good Sense,

Granted, the oline doesn't look like one of the best right now, I also place on our qb's. Not just Tannehill.

They should be well aware the ball needs to be out of their hands 2.5 sec max. I also see our qb's exhibiting nearly zero pocket presence.

Most great qb's have great pocket presence too. they master sliding in the pocket, sidestepping rushers, or just throwing the damn ball away.

Aaron Corps looked like our best all night, as far as how he moved in the pocket, in his brief appearance. Just unfortunate for him he threw a pick.

I felt Dustin Keller was going to are best addition this year. We haven't had a guy like him since Keith Jackson. Its terrible loss if it is serious.But maybe will get lucky and it is not season ending. That guy runs deep like Wallace does.

Someone give our RG 50 bucks to leave town, cause he is stinking up the joint

I read post after post after post of the same freakin' thing on this blog; whine, whine, whine...some fans you guys are! All you do is complain, argue over meaningless garbage, and tear down the Fins. And, if you do post about football, the majority of the time it's ignorant! It's like you don't even know what player plays what position! Or, you're in desperate need of "Football for Dummies"! Mostly, you guys just post to whine and complain! Which either means you're mentally still in junior high or you all worship at Armando's feet! And, that makes you a hater...like he is....not a fan! And, you waste my time when I have to read over all the junk you spout on this blog to find something worth reading!


Posted by: fin4life | August 18, 2013 at 01:29 AM


Thios post, I agree with 100%.

Im not a basher, just sick and tired of not reading intio what my eyes really see, and succumbing to unfruitful optimism.

I've done this every year and before December's end Im full fledged mock drafting.

Every new year seeing the bad signs and giving benefit of doubt. Every new year's end, either the same or worse. Im beginning to learn, sometimes what we really see, is what we really see.

Dismissing it, wont bring about a better end......


I felt Dustin Keller was going to are best addition this year. We haven't had a guy like him since Keith Jackson. Its terrible loss if it is serious.But maybe will get lucky and it is not season ending. That guy runs deep like Wallace does.

Posted by: mike gentile | August 18, 2013 at 01:34 AM

Tannehill doesn't stop throwing behind the receivers, Keller wont be the only receiver going down.


Pinhead4life,

Even your memory fails you like an old man succumbed to alzheimer's. You choose to join the Queen Clubbers and attacking me without provocation. You choose sides with your circle-jerking chat buddies before examinating the real truth of the situations.

You've become exactly like them. In full flight from reality, with denial as your domain. You haven't a clue yourun with fools. But, as they say:

"BIRDS OF A FEATHER"...... you know the rest, duck.....

Posted by: LOVE FAKING 17-0-IN-YUR-ASS! | | August 18, 2013 at 01:23 AM

It's exactly this that makes a conversation with you difficult! You call any opinion unlike yours "A MENTAL BREAK FROM REALITY" and you post the others are acting in a delusional manner???? The great thing about Football is how trivial it actually is to the grand scheme of things. Here at this SILLY blog e can have an open forum and discuss varying points of view about a game! Let me repeat a GAME! There is RIGHT AND WRONG with some off the top stupidity posted but you can ignore it and move on, CAPICE!

I also was aware of the premise Corp was bringing to our O. He looked like he knew what he wanted to do,and threw a crisp decisive pass.
I also, was disappointed by the fumble, from the pressure that flushed him out of the pocket.

Right now, what I see in Tannehill can be better described as promise not great potential. A guy who can be very good, but, not a guy who's headed for greatness.

He may turn out to be our version of Matt Shaub. Sorry dolfans......

Posted by: fin4life | August 18, 2013 at 01:47 AM


Dude, you and Dashi spent nearly an entire day bashing me when I wasn't even here. Its not the first time.

What am I supposed tyo think when you've fully bought into the delusion of the other twerps, thinking Im all these other posters you're fighting with.

Clearly, I can change your minds. All of you seem to separated from reality to ever listen.

cant


I've done this every year and before December's end Im full fledged mock drafting.

Posted by: LOVE FAKING 17-0-IN-YUR-ASS! | | August 18, 2013

Your not alone! Am SICK of debating draft in Dec. on here! Going through all the prospect boards and sites in order to put together a mock by week-12 with College Football still playing there Season out before reciculous wait for BCS games! I felt we were on to something but Tanne is really the engine that makes it go so even in the face of subpar play you hope someting will come on although with each passing week itbecomes clear it may not happen and we pulled the trigger on a trade this draft that I would have saved for 2014 and Clowney who you know I've been chatting up already, agreeing with A-ROID though that highly unlikely. If OL wasn't in the cards with this group then maybe trading away for picks to gamble in the Clowney sweepstakes of 2014 would have been better erved!

17-0 (@ 1:26AM)


The sources that were quoted by TV guys (on Eifert) were the notes of high-level NFL Scouts. (In contrast, Tebow was hyped by
a NON-SPORTS RELATED POLITICAL MACHINE.)

Also, as I recall...Many of the commercial Mock Drafts were projecting Eifert between 10 and 15 on Draft Day.


It's a moot point anyway because Ireland chose to do something different....

As we know... it takes a few years to tell if a given draft was successful....but like when Wannstatt skipped over Ben Rothlesburger...it will be interesting to look back and imagine what might have been.
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There aint a rule bud...quit trying to make em up...

Posted by: fin4life | August 18, 2013 at 01:47 AM


You guys maybe fighting with a poster or posters using multiple screen names. But I guarantee it isn't me.

I know it doesn't do any good to once again say this. But I only use this screen names because I have no need to hide from anyone. Its only a damn internet. It's not like anyone's going to come knocking on anyone's door.

Posted by: Cooz | August 18, 2013 at 01:58 AM

That's cool, Eiffert's career good or bad, will speak for itself.......

LOVE FAKING 17-0-IN-YUR-ASS! | | August 18, 2013 at 01:52 AM

I may have jumped to conclusions of my own, so I'll tell you what. We discuss Football and disagree as much as we want but keep it to the game! At the end of the day alot more challenging than the alternative.

Posted by: fin4life | August 18, 2013 at 01:55 AM

ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dolfans putting together mocks and the college season hasn't ended yet. Still the same bloggers live in the same unfilled denial to begin each new preseason.

I am not ready to mitigate Tannyhill to a mediocre career at this point, although I can see your point of perspective.
Something that I have not seen addressed from our QB staff is his point of delivery.
He is still shoulder throwing his passes. This technique will result in a lot of passes being batted down. Also it is a hard pass to put a soft touch on in the short to medium range passes.
An example , that I hate to use is, Terrible Tom. On his short drops, His release is high and over the top. Likewise you will see this in Manning and Rodgers.
On the power throws they will shoulder up and drill it. Our boy needs to develop this technique.

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